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Irwin and Sperrey statements?

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Post by jmbd on 22.02.10 12:33

Both groups (of 2 people in each group) dined at tapas at the same time as Mccann group.

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Where are their statements?

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Post by Cath on 22.02.10 21:00

Not on the DVD.

How about the other guests?
Here's just two pages of guests (there's more).
How many of these guests helped searching, who's made statements and how many of these statements are on the DVD?

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Post by SashaM on 25.02.10 10:21

Maybe the statements are in the separate "secret dossier" that came to light during the McCann Vs Amaral hearing?
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Post by Cath on 27.02.10 15:41

No, looks like that was a different "secret dossier", recent ? sightings filed by Paiva. Who allegedly didn't even bother to sent them to LP or the parents to have a look at them.

Not that strange though, when you read what Amaral wrote in his book re the Moroccan sighting:

"In one of her photos, taken from a vehicle, a North African family is seen, walking along a road. A woman is carrying a little girl on her back: it can only be Madeleine. Someone tells me about this witness statement and wants to know what I think. I have obviously still not seen the photo and even so I respond, convinced: "Unfortunately, it's got to be a mistake."

We ask the chief of Leicestershire police, Stuart Prior, where he is up to with it. He explains that the English police, after having seen the photo, immediately submitted it to the McCanns, asking them if they recognised their daughter. To which they replied with a, "perhaps." Incomprehensible to say the least. We are shocked by the behaviour of the English, who took that initiative, without consulting us, us, the people responsible for the investigation, which is all the more ludicrous given that the McCanns were already considered as suspects. That way of doing things disrupts the strategy adopted for the investigation, which the Portuguese and English police agreed on."

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Post by jmbd on 27.02.10 15:56

The point of this thread was to question whether everybody that could have information were in fact interviewed. If they weren't interviewed in Portugal before they left then why weren't they interviewed by local police at a later date?

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Post by Cath on 27.02.10 16:28

Who says they weren't interviewed? We just don't know if they were or weren't.
According to the PJ final report over 700 persons that might possess any relevant information about the disappearance were formally and informally questioned.
Yet I think there's only about 290 person's statements on the DVD.
Jayne Jensen's for instance isn't amongst those. Neil Berry's statement of May 7th isn't on the DVD (according to the reservations list he's left May 5th).
Raj Balu 28 May 2008 : "I did not ask to see my original statements in order to refresh my memory. I confirm that these statements are correct."

So what's happened to their statements? Did the local police not forward them to Portugal or LP?
Did someone decide they weren't important enough to be copied on the DVD?
Did someone decide they were that important that they shouldn't be released on the DVD?

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Post by jmbd on 27.02.10 17:02

"So what's happened to their statements? Did the local police not forward them to Portugal or LP?
Did someone decide they weren't important enough to be copied on the DVD?
Did someone decide they were that important that they shouldn't be released on the DVD?"

Yes - that is the question I am asking.

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Post by Cath on 27.02.10 18:18

And who in here do you expect can answer that without speculating?

If they were important, wouldn't these guests have been included in the Rogatory requests?

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Post by jmbd on 27.02.10 20:42

Maybe it was a hypothetical question that pointed to obvious shortcomings in the Police investigation.

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Post by jmbd on 27.02.10 20:46

There was a comment somewhere recently that not all the Uk people on holiday at the time had come forward.

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Post by twinkle on 27.02.10 20:53

I remember reading something like that, so would the police not have contacted those that hadn't come forward.
You would assume that this would have been a priority.
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Post by jmbd on 27.02.10 20:55

Well I would assume so - especially as their details are so readily available - but it is odd that the statements are not in the file.

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Post by jmbd on 27.02.10 20:56

It really is a jigsaw puzzle with half the pieces missing (for us).

The question is (again hypothetically) did the PJ have all the pieces?

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Post by jmbd on 27.02.10 21:07

Without some sort of specialist database - how on earth could they pull together all the bits of information about this massive missing person investigation?

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Post by twinkle on 27.02.10 21:16

It does make you wonder if they did have all information.
I would think they should have been more interested in contacting the people who hadn't come forward, given the high profile nature of the case.
It would be interesting to find out if there are still people who were there at the time who hadn't come forward, after all would why would you NOT come forward.
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Post by jmbd on 27.02.10 21:19

They may not come forward because they think they have no information to help - but who knows what some insignificant (to them) detail may hold.

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Post by twinkle on 27.02.10 21:22

Exactly, so they have something relatively insignificant to them that could tie in with something else they have.
You would think the McCann's PI's would maybe have followed this up though.
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Post by jmbd on 27.02.10 21:23

I would have thought so - but of course nobody is forced to speak to the PIs.

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Post by twinkle on 27.02.10 21:36

No you are right, still lots of holes in it all.
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Post by jmbd on 27.02.10 21:38

Maybe the holes are just in what we have access to - maybe the PJ had the complete information.

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Post by twinkle on 27.02.10 21:46

Deliberate then you think?
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Post by jmbd on 27.02.10 21:49

I don't think so - the arguidos had to have the files released to them - whether they are the same files that were released to everyone else is debatable.

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Post by jmbd on 27.02.10 21:52

An example of that would be the dogs video. We have only seen an edited version on the internet. Do the Mccanns have the full version? Does the person who has posted edited videos have the full version?

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Post by twinkle on 27.02.10 21:56

So as you said earlier, a jigsaw puzzle with half the pieces missing for us, very possible.
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Post by jmbd on 27.02.10 22:00

Yes - that is where it stops for me. Their are other people who want to examine old newspaper reports and forum stories and make their decision from there.

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