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Post by Tony Bennett on 19.04.12 16:57

I have today been served with new papers by Carter-Ruck in connection with the committal-to-prison trial on 9 and 10 May [start: 10.00am prompt, Wednesday 9 May].

Amongst the papers supplied is an on-the-record statement by Carter-Ruck Partner, Isabel Hudson, and I quote:

"While my firm is not instructed in the libel proceedings instigated in Portugal by the Claimants [Drs Gerald and Kate McCann] against Goncalo Amaral, I understand that...the case is proceeding to a full libel trial, and that a provisional date of 13 September 2012 has been given for the trial".

According to certain British newspapers, the McCanns launched their libel writ against Dr Amaral in early July 2009; thus if this provisional date sticks, it will take place more than 3 years and 2 months after the writ was first issued in Lisbon.

By the time the writ and application to injunct the book was issued [July 2009], Dr Amaral's book 'The Truth About A Lie' had already been published a year previously [July 2008], had sold over 200,000 copies in Portugal alone, had been translated into several European languages, and had been made into a TV documentary viewed by a record 2.2 million viewers in Portugal...

(...and had made a net profit for publishers and author of around 1 million euros).

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Amelie Mcann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by jay2001 on 19.04.12 21:26

Not too long now Tony and I hope sincerely that justice is served and the dreadful burden you must be under is lifted. Strange that tm don't have to prove abduction, but you are in danger of losing your liberty because you queried their many and varied accounts of 3 May 2007.

Praying also that Dr Amaral's trial is not postponed and wish it could be brought forward. The stress of these cases will be enormous and are unheard of, surely, in a missing child case. If my child disappeared I wouldn't be searching for 153 articles on the net. My searching would be in the10 mile radius of the lawless lair that my PI mentioned.
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Post by Ashwarya on 19.04.12 22:09

Surely they'll be banged up long before September. No-one who has read the police files could be in any doubt about whodunnit, and Scotland Yard must have read those and a lot more besides that we don't have access to. It can only be a matter of time now, and if I was one of the Tapas 9 I'd be hot-footing round to the local nick to tell my side of the story before they came to fetch me. I hope all goes according to plan for Tony, and will be thinking of him on 9th and 10th May - what a very courageous road he is taking.
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Post by Lioned on 19.04.12 23:09

Thanks for that Tony.One would hope there will be some developments in the SY 'review' before that.
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Post by aiyoyo on 19.04.12 23:15

hmmm......wonder why CR even informed TB about "that" libel trial date?

What was their purpose for doing that? A warning to TB not to hope to rely on that trial verdict to use in his defence?

If the mccanns had been informed that is "provisional" date, I am inclined to think that must be more or less correct.


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Post by tigger on 20.04.12 11:31

Sunday Express.
By James Murray and Tracey Kandohla
Sunday April 10,2011

KATE McCann is so fearful of being attacked she is refusing to do public signings of her new book about the fight to find daughter Madeleine.

She will do television interviews here and in Portugal, where Madeleine disappeared four years ago, but will not meet the public over fears for her personal safety.

A source close to the publishers told the Sunday Express yesterday: "Kate doesn't want to give anyone the opportunity of heckling her or attacking her during any promotional tour. It's been emotional enough just writing the book."

The 348-page book, called Madeleine, is published on May 12, the little girl's eighth birthday.

We can disclose that one of the groups that could potentially have caused trouble is The Madeleine Foundation, which plans to distribute leaflets and step up an internet campaign confronting Kate and Gerry McCann on the date of publication.

They have already written to publishers Transworld demanding answers to 163 questions.

The questions include several put to the couple by the Portuguese police. One question asks: "How would the McCanns' children have coped if there was an emergency while they were absent and out of earshot?"

They also ask why the McCanns did not use the hotel's evening baby-sitting service.

The Foundation letter states: "Many feel that the McCanns owe it to the public, whom they have so frequently asked for help, to give them reasonable answers to their questions."

Kate, 42, has written the book because the Madeleine Fund, set up by well-wishers, is getting through money fast.

The McCanns want to be able to pay for further private detective work to track her down and cling to the belief that Madeleine is still alive somewhere.

Kate has said: "My reason for writing is simple – to give an account of the truth.

"Every penny we raise through its sales will be spent on our search for Madeleine."
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Why is the Madeleine Foundation said to be causing trouble which may jeopardise the personal safety of Mrs. McCann? Why is it intimated that some form of violence could result from asking questions such as the one re the safety of the children?
Has anyone remotely connected to the Madeleine Foundation ever threatened to 'heckle or attack her'?

The Fund does not seem to have received any money from the book according to the last yearly accounts submitted. So far the proceeds of the book can therefore not have been of use in finding Madeleine.

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Post by Spaniel on 20.04.12 12:42

@tigger wrote:Sunday Express.
By James Murray and Tracey Kandohla
Sunday April 10,2011

KATE McCann is so fearful of being attacked she is refusing to do public signings of her new book about the fight to find daughter Madeleine.

She will do television interviews here and in Portugal, where Madeleine disappeared four years ago, but will not meet the public over fears for her personal safety.

A source close to the publishers told the Sunday Express yesterday: "Kate doesn't want to give anyone the opportunity of heckling her or attacking her during any promotional tour. It's been emotional enough just writing the book."

The 348-page book, called Madeleine, is published on May 12, the little girl's eighth birthday.

We can disclose that one of the groups that could potentially have caused trouble is The Madeleine Foundation, which plans to distribute leaflets and step up an internet campaign confronting Kate and Gerry McCann on the date of publication.

They have already written to publishers Transworld demanding answers to 163 questions.

The questions include several put to the couple by the Portuguese police. One question asks: "How would the McCanns' children have coped if there was an emergency while they were absent and out of earshot?"

They also ask why the McCanns did not use the hotel's evening baby-sitting service.

The Foundation letter states: "Many feel that the McCanns owe it to the public, whom they have so frequently asked for help, to give them reasonable answers to their questions."

Kate, 42, has written the book because the Madeleine Fund, set up by well-wishers, is getting through money fast.

The McCanns want to be able to pay for further private detective work to track her down and cling to the belief that Madeleine is still alive somewhere.

Kate has said: "My reason for writing is simple – to give an account of the truth.

"Every penny we raise through its sales will be spent on our search for Madeleine."
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Why is the Madeleine Foundation said to be causing trouble which may jeopardise the personal safety of Mrs. McCann? Why is it intimated that some form of violence could result from asking questions such as the one re the safety of the children?
Has anyone remotely connected to the Madeleine Foundation ever threatened to 'heckle or attack her'?

The Fund does not seem to have received any money from the book according to the last yearly accounts submitted. So far the proceeds of the book can therefore not have been of use in finding Madeleine.

See what The Express have done tigger? They have posed questions via the MF, thus implanting them into the minds of their readers. Questions they cannot raise themselves for fear of further litigation.
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Post by tigger on 20.04.12 14:55

Aren't you clever! I didn't see that, just that the question was reasonable.

But Kate herself mentioned the Madeleine Foundation as an outfit likely to inspire attacks on her person.

Actually, Gerry meant to do a bike ride from Portugal to the UK last year, but cancelled for the same reason. It was to be a fund raiser of course...

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Post by Guest on 20.04.12 19:04

@aiyoyo wrote:hmmm......wonder why CR even informed TB about "that" libel trial date?

What was their purpose for doing that? A warning to TB not to hope to rely on that trial verdict to use in his defence?

If the mccanns had been informed that is "provisional" date, I am inclined to think that must be more or less correct.



I have wondered why they told Tony this information, since they are not acting for the McCanns in that matter. Why tell him the trial date I wonder. What's it got to do with them?
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Post by aiyoyo on 21.04.12 5:08

Being friendly or a warning - your pick!
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Post by tigger on 21.04.12 6:18

See above for reference.
A source close to the publishers told the Sunday Express yesterday: "Kate doesn't want to give anyone the opportunity of heckling her or attacking her during any promotional tour. It's been emotional enough just writing the book."

The 348-page book, called Madeleine, is published on May 12, the little girl's eighth birthday.

We can disclose that one of the groups that could potentially have caused trouble is The Madeleine Foundation, which plans to distribute leaflets and step up an internet campaign confronting Kate and Gerry McCann on the date of publication.
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What I want to know is: why isn't this statement libelous?

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Post by Newintown on 21.04.12 13:35

The questions include several put to the couple by the Portuguese police. One question asks: "How would the McCanns' children have coped if there was an emergency while they were absent and out of earshot?"

They also ask why the McCanns did not use the hotel's evening baby-sitting service.

The Foundation letter states: "Many feel that the McCanns owe it to the public, whom they have so frequently asked for help, to give them reasonable answers to their questions."

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I see the Sunday Express have been crafty and have stated that the above questions have come from the Portugese police, therefore planting in the minds of the readers that the Police were doing their job and saying to the readers "go and find out more information for yourselves", they're also giving free publicity to the Madeleine Foundation. Well I take it as that anyway.

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Post by PeterMac on 06.06.12 16:04

The writ states that accusations left them "totally destroyed" and caused them "irreparable" damage.
The writ maintains that the couple both suffer from "permanent anxiety, insomnia, lack of appetite, irritability and an indefinable fear".
It also says Kate McCann is "steeped in a deep and serious depression".

P. 262 Kate states "Wild stories were appearing in the papers about my fragile mental state, my inability to cope' with my 'hyperactive' children, eating disorders and sedatives. All complete bullshit, ..."

Does anyone know how these two statements can be reconciled ?
A deep and serious depression is on any test a fragile mental state.

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Post by jd on 06.06.12 17:12

The writ states that accusations left them "totally destroyed" and caused them "irreparable" damage.
The writ maintains that the couple both suffer from "permanent anxiety, insomnia, lack of appetite, irritability and an indefinable fear".
It also says Kate McCann is "steeped in a deep and serious depression".

This is a joke right? They are celebrity millionaires with the powers of the establishment protecting them at every single angle. They are liars, fakes and have a fraudlant fund, they ruin innocent peoples lives, they have broken all the values of this country. Below are the mccanns in the last months, seriously is this how totally destroyed, permanent anxiety, insomnia, lack of appetite, irritability and an indefinable fear people behave?
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Post by jd on 06.06.12 19:01

totally destroyed" "irreparable" damage. "permanent anxiety, insomnia, lack of appetite, irritability and an indefinable fear". "steeped in a deep and serious depression".

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Post by PeterMac on 06.06.12 19:06

Carter-Ruck.
Please note.
Your clients are not telling the truth in one of those documents. Either the writ or the book contains a lie.
You cannot have it both ways.
And your client has told the world that the book is a Version of the Truth.

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Post by PeterMac on 06.06.12 19:57

totally destroyed" "irreparable" damage. "permanent anxiety, insomnia, lack of appetite, irritability and an indefinable fear". "steeped in a deep and serious depression".
In fairness there is lots of evidence. Here is some more.
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Post by Guest on 06.06.12 20:29

@PeterMac wrote:
totally destroyed" "irreparable" damage. "permanent anxiety, insomnia, lack of appetite, irritability and an indefinable fear". "steeped in a deep and serious depression".
In fairness there is lots of evidence. Here is some more.
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And there are so many more.
I could be mistaken, but I think that IF they could find their way out of this one [the court case], they would ...
Very possibly the reason that this has been hanging out for years by now ...
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Post by sammyc on 06.06.12 22:42

This pair make me want to vomit. Not a shred of remorse for leaving their 3 little children to defend for themselves night after night with no-one to comfort, help, watch over them, protect them. When you see other parents who have lost a child/children through horrific circumstances ranging from murder, arson, car accidents, illness, parental abduction to another country, knife crime, fisticuffs at High school, 'simple' accidents etc etc, you can see pain, heartache, misery and difficulty in carrying on with life etched into their face, body and soul.

Yet these two seem to wallow in their fame, knowing that Poor Madeleine could still be with that alleged paedophile who abducted her whilst they were having a great night out. Sick sick sick.
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Post by Guest on 06.06.12 22:52

@sammyc wrote: [...] these two seem to wallow in their fame, knowing that Poor Madeleine could still be with that alleged paedophile who abducted her whilst they were having a great night out. Sick sick sick.
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Do I understand you correctly?
All evidence points to:
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And they know much more than they're telling IMO

But I do agree, it's sick [IMO again]
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Post by jd on 07.06.12 0:31

Yet these two seem to wallow in their fame, knowing that Poor Madeleine could still be with that alleged paedophile who abducted her whilst they were having a great night out. Sick sick sick.
Exactly, this is the truth of it. sick sick sick. And we also have their lead investor in their fraudulent fund, brian kennedy, intimidating all the witnesses from the nanny to a previous occupier of 5A. How many have said they feel like a pawn in a game. It is a police investigation and nothing to do with a financial investor who is doing nothing but perverting the course of justice. Even on a business deal buying Rangers football club, they are saying brian kennedy is just lying and bulldozing his bid through. Then we have his sidekick, who has 'friends' who have the most sickening views and comments about children, all of which are documented and proven. Instead of being responsible, they use carter ruck instead to cover up their sickness, because this is what they are all are...sick to the core

Totally destroyed" "irreparable" damage. "permanent anxiety, insomnia, lack of appetite, irritability and an indefinable fear". "steeped in a deep and serious depression".
Here is some more:
Goncalo Amaral Libel Trial - provisional date 13 SEPTEMBER 2012  4thbir10 A mere 9 days later on May 12th 2007

And more of their
Totally destroyed" "irreparable" damage. "permanent anxiety, insomnia, lack of appetite, irritability and an indefinable fear". "steeped in a deep and serious depression".
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Are these "parents" seriously "broken and have "irreparable" damage. "permanent anxiety, insomnia, lack of appetite, irritability and an indefinable fear". "steeped in a deep and serious depression" whilst knowing their daughter could still be with an alleged pedophile doing unspeakable thing to her?

Within only 3 weeks of Maddies' disappearance to a pedophile abductor, they are just smiling and laughing
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Post by jd on 08.06.12 0:14

Some more of the celebrity child neglecters and their...
Totally destroyed" "irreparable" damage. "permanent anxiety, insomnia, lack of appetite, irritability and an indefinable fear". "steeped in a deep and serious depression".
.....This laughing of kate mccann is right after she says "after maddie was taken".........I dont know about you but, if my child had gone missing I wouldnt be smiling! They laugh about texts messages sent on day or day after may 3rd, they laugh when speaking about Maddie being taken!!!! whats so funny....They are
totally destroyed" "irreparable" damage. "permanent anxiety, insomnia, lack of appetite, irritability and have an indefinable fear"
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Clearly not!
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Post by tigger on 08.06.12 5:47

@ jd.
Just after that in that video she says Gerry never sent or received 16 text messages (clear lie) and makes this odd gesture - sort of 'all done' underarms and hands opened out.
A hint of triumph there. imo. But she is telling or reinforcing an outright lie.
Gerry isn't as happy, hates to have to explain himself blocks the interviewers with one arm.

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