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Post by jd on 30.05.12 19:49

And the fact they are under contract to the FBI tells you all you need to know what the FBI think of them. 100% record in over 200 cases says how good & pinpoint accurate they are. Yes Kate Mccanns book lies will never change that, ever.
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Post by friedtomatoes on 30.05.12 19:57

jd wrote:And the fact they are under contract to the FBI tells you all you need to know what the FBI think of them. 100% record in over 200 cases says how good & pinpoint accurate they are. Yes Kate Mccanns book lies will never change that, ever.

eddie had a100% record and no false alerts
mr grimes new dog is morse i think
eddie is retired now i think, dont know why

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Post by PeterMac on 30.05.12 23:04

jd wrote:And the fact they are under contract to the FBI tells you all you need to know what the FBI think of them. 100% record in over 200 cases says how good & pinpoint accurate they are. Yes Kate Mccanns book lies will never change that, ever.
Just try to imagine how much it costs to take two dogs and their handler to the USA, keep them there for however long, and then fly them back.
And ask why they would do this if they were "notoriously unreliable." ?

Police officers know more than they let on.
Look at the Derby case and the Coulson case on the other threads.

We loved it when people thought we are stupid. It made our lives so much easier. If people have low expectations, then they can be pleasantly surprised when you do something good.
I speak as a retired cop.
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Post by friedtomatoes on 30.05.12 23:11

PeterMac wrote:
jd wrote:And the fact they are under contract to the FBI tells you all you need to know what the FBI think of them. 100% record in over 200 cases says how good & pinpoint accurate they are. Yes Kate Mccanns book lies will never change that, ever.
Just try to imagine how much it costs to take two dogs and their handler to the USA, keep them there for however long, and then fly them back.
And ask why they would do this if they were "notoriously unreliable." ?

Police officers know more than they let on.
Look at the Derby case and the Coulson case on the other threads.

We loved it when people thought we are stupid. It made our lives so much easier. If people have low expectations, then they can be pleasantly surprised when you do something good.
I speak as a retired cop.
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pmsl brill!!

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Post by Guest on 30.05.12 23:20

Mariita wrote:Along with the new ageprogressed picture on Madeleine, I found some things strange in the article: It mentions 3 sightings (of the presumed abductor), the persons who reported having seen someone carrying a child are not known to each other,therefore 3 independent witnesses. The police in Portugal has a phantompicture based on these witnesses descriptions, that has never before been published, but apparently they will soon... I only know of the Jane Tanner sighting and the Smith sighting. Or do they maybe have that man in mind, the one who drove in his car early in the morning on the 4th and saw a couple with a child?? Then they wrote about the reconstruction, it will finally be made with the people who were there when it happened. To me it sounds like the tapasgroup. Furthermore, and the reason why I chose this topic to post in, I read that neither the cadaverdog nor the blood-dog alerted anywhere!!!! The specialised dogs were taken in, but due to this article the dogs showed no sign at all.

This is so strange. These obvious lies that so easy can be revealed as what they are-just lies. I mean, some people that insist the McCanns are innocent, say that the dogs can´t be relied, they make mistakes etc.But no one can hardly deny that they barked at certain places.

I don´t know how many of you are familiar with the german language, here´s the link http://www.bild.de/news/ausland/maddie-mccann/fuenf-gruende-warum-sie-vielleicht-noch-lebt-23853804.bild.html

Zeitliche Lücken: Scotland-Yard-Ermittler haben festgestellt, dass
der Abend, an dem Maddie verschwand, noch nicht lückenlos rekonstruiert
wurde. Mit einem neuen Zeugenaufruf hofft die Polizei, die Zeitlücken zu
schließen.• Kombination ALLER Ermittlungsergebnisse
Aus der Kombination ALLER Spuren hofft die Polizei auf den Durchbruch.
Translated:
Time hole (?) SY officials have established that the evening Madeleine disappeared has not been reconstructed without time holes. (i.e. not in sequence, without blanks in it) The police are hopeful to close the gaps with a new call for witnessess to come forward.
The police intend to combine ALL findings. They are hoping for a breakthrough combining ALL leads (traces)
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Post by jd on 31.05.12 1:09

PeterMac wrote:
jd wrote:And the fact they are under contract to the FBI tells you all you need to know what the FBI think of them. 100% record in over 200 cases says how good & pinpoint accurate they are. Yes Kate Mccanns book lies will never change that, ever.
Just try to imagine how much it costs to take two dogs and their handler to the USA, keep them there for however long, and then fly them back.
And ask why they would do this if they were "notoriously unreliable." ?

Police officers know more than they let on.
Look at the Derby case and the Coulson case on the other threads.

We loved it when people thought we are stupid. It made our lives so much easier. If people have low expectations, then they can be pleasantly surprised when you do something good.
I speak as a retired cop.
BSc, LLB, MA (actually !)

I sincerely hope you are right PM, I do hold the very most utmost respect for you and your knowledge and experience without any shadow of doubt, I can see this vey clearly. Deep down I hope what you believe is the case despite what I say, nothing would make me feel happier. However, I strongly believe that in everything in life "action speaks louder than words" and after 5 years in this case I have not seen the British police (or anyone British) act in any way to bring the right justice to Maddie and have done instead everything in their power to do the exact opposite to hinder and derail the truth from all angles, and in 2012 are now coming out with the most stupid of things I have ever heard of and aligned to the most pathetic. We have Andy Redwood who was told what to do re Jill Dando as it was a Serbian mafia hit man who killed her which I know from fact so know how he will do as told. I am not disputing his abilities as he has proven with the murderor he tracked down to Spain but regardless of his abilities he will, as proven to me, do what his his brief is and not be courageous enough to do what is right. Then we have Bernard Hogan Howe. So not looking very good from the top of this SY review

fried tomatoes you may think "pmsl and think its brill" but isn't this just simply an immature response? PM, I really hope you are right (and I am wrong) and the ridiculous way SY are portraying themselves in this review is a smoke screen to catch the celebrity child neglecters out, but until actions speaks then I can only judge the police involved in the review on their past experiences together with what they are actually doing right now, which is not looking good for justice for Maddie whatsoever

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Post by espeland on 01.06.12 23:51

the ridiculous way SY are portraying themselves in this review is a smoke screen to catch the celebrity child neglecters out


But we know there already are things the Mccanns have said that would ordinarily be used to 'catch' them. SY have done nothing.

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Post by PeterMac on 02.06.12 7:24

espeland wrote:
But we know there already are things the Mccanns have said that would ordinarily be used to 'catch' them. SY have done nothing.
Yet.

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Post by tigger on 02.06.12 9:00

PeterMac wrote:
espeland wrote:
But we know there already are things the Mccanns have said that would ordinarily be used to 'catch' them. SY have done nothing.
Yet.

I refuse to believe the team of operation Grange has room temperature IQ. If we can work it out, so can they, having far more experience with criminals and lies. I they do have a remit to exclude the parents from any wrongdoing - it must be a huge insult to their intelligence and experience.

Do we now have two highly experienced and highly educated police forces who are not allowed to find the truth? One was an investigation, this is a review with a presumed outcome for the CPS to decide on prosecution.

Well, there's nothing for it but to wait - hopefully without any of the circus initiated by Panorama.

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Post by Guest on 02.06.12 9:47

Another case where the father is standing trial for murder of his daughter Bianca, with no body and cadaver dog finding scent in closet...........

May 30, 2012 10:50 AM


D'Andre Lane, father of missing 2-year-old Bianca Jones, to stand trial for murder



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Casey Glynn
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D'Andre Lane (left) and Bianca Jones
(Credit: Oakland County Sheriff's Dept./CBS Detroit) (CBS/WWJ) DETROIT - D'Andre Lane, the father of missing 2-year-old Detroit girl Bianca Jones, will stand trial in his daughter's presumed murder.




On Tuesday, 36th District Court Judge Ruth Carter announced she found there was enough evidence to continue with the trial, CBS Detroit reports. Carter said she was struck by the testimony of Bianca's 8-year-old sister, Il'Andra, who said Bianca didn't move or make any noise when she usually did in her sleep.



"That's what struck me about Il'Andra's testimony, was that she noticed that BB (Bianca) never got out of bed, that she never saw BB moving around. And then her father went to get BB after they were in the car and brought her out covered, and then she remained covered when they were in the car," Carter said, according to CBS Detroit.



Lane has pleaded not guilty to charges of child abuse and murder in connection to the Bianca's disappearance. Prosecutors say the toddler, whose body was never found, was abused on the day of her disappearance. Lane denies that he has anything to do with the disappearance and claims his daughter was taken during a carjacking in early December.



According to Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy, an extensive investigation determined that there was no carjacking.



A cadaver dog trainer testified that one of his dogs hit on the scent of decomposition in the closet of the children's room at Lanes' home. However, Bianca's body has not been found.



Lane's trial is expected to begin June 5.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57443513-504083/dandre-lane-father-of-missing-2-year-old-bianca-jones-to-stand-trial-for-murder/
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Post by Spaniel on 02.06.12 11:45

PeterMac wrote:
espeland wrote:
But we know there already are things the Mccanns have said that would ordinarily be used to 'catch' them. SY have done nothing.
Yet.
If there's any suspicion surely NSY would have closed the fund. There'll be uproar if donators find the fund was fraudulent and yet was allowed to continue. Even to announce it was to be closed until after the review should have been sufficient. They no longer need it now anyway since a police force is searching for a live Madeleine.
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Post by aquila on 02.06.12 11:52

Spaniel wrote:
PeterMac wrote:
espeland wrote:
But we know there already are things the Mccanns have said that would ordinarily be used to 'catch' them. SY have done nothing.
Yet.
If there's any suspicion surely NSY would have closed the fund. There'll be uproar if donators find the fund was fraudulent and yet was allowed to continue. Even to announce it was to be closed until after the review should have been sufficient. They no longer need it now anyway since a police force is searching for a live Madeleine.

I'm not sure SY have the power to close the fund and why would they do that anyway in the throes of an investigation? IMO it is for the Mc's to take the decision to close the fund although I doubt they will even when the UK taxpayers are funding an SY 'on demand' review/investigation. What will TM do after that has been concluded? whinge about SY?
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Post by PeterMac on 02.06.12 12:49

Closing the "Fund" would be far too obvious. It is the one thing which is on English soil and under English jurisdiction. To unravel the extent of the various Directors' knowledge and complicity, the apparent negligence of the lawyers and auditors is a long job, and for a Fraud investigation team. For the moment better to let it run.

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Post by Spaniel on 02.06.12 12:55

aquila wrote:
Spaniel wrote:
PeterMac wrote:
espeland wrote:
But we know there already are things the Mccanns have said that would ordinarily be used to 'catch' them. SY have done nothing.
Yet.
If there's any suspicion surely NSY would have closed the fund. There'll be uproar if donators find the fund was fraudulent and yet was allowed to continue. Even to announce it was to be closed until after the review should have been sufficient. They no longer need it now anyway since a police force is searching for a live Madeleine.

I'm not sure SY have the power to close the fund and why would they do that anyway in the throes of an investigation? IMO it is for the Mc's to take the decision to close the fund although I doubt they will even when the UK taxpayers are funding an SY 'on demand' review/investigation. What will TM do after that has been concluded? whinge about SY?
You are likely correct on the legalities aquila, but that fund does get my back up! It shouldn't, as I've not donated but I can't stand meanness with money, especially when it's other people's money. I simply don't understand how they can still accept donations, the greedy pair.

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Post by Guest on 02.06.12 16:19

Here is HiDeHo's video...........

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Post by Spaniel on 02.06.12 19:33

Thankyou candyfloss. Our Hi De Ho is a star.

While seeking the video;

Cadaver dogs searching for two little bodies, now another land fill site being searched also in California.

http://laist.com/2012/05/07/cadaver_dogs_return_to_brea_landfil.php

Why cadaver dogs are not taken to landfill sites if at all possible. Rather like taking a cadaver dog to a cemetery and asking it to search for a body. Landfills are full of illegal hospital waste for example.

http://www.hornbecks.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=94&Itemid=67

Cadaver dogs find body wrapped in plastic hidden behind a closet wall in attic.

http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2010/10/cadaver_dog_finds_body_thought.html

Far too many to mention but look at how the defense in one case didn't want the dogs to be admissable. Known in USA as Limine. It's the precursor to the trial I believe where evidence is either granted as admissible or not.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/30194903/Def-in-Limine-Cadaver-Dog

The dog found blood in the filter of a tumble dryer. Having been washed, I daresay it was a slight trace, but he or she found it.

Good and clever dog.

"Cadaver dogs found a blood residue in a dryer lint trap and the patio drain, which detectives believe may be evidence that someone washed themselves in the back patio area,"



The dogs have it. No wonder Gerry gets so scared at the sight or sound of them.

Ask the dogs Gerry!!!
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Post by pingunootnoot on 02.06.12 21:25

Spaniel wrote:Thankyou candyfloss. Our Hi De Ho is a star.

While seeking the video;

Cadaver dogs searching for two little bodies, now another land fill site being searched also in California.

http://laist.com/2012/05/07/cadaver_dogs_return_to_brea_landfil.php

Why cadaver dogs are not taken to landfill sites if at all possible. Rather like taking a cadaver dog to a cemetery and asking it to search for a body. Landfills are full of illegal hospital waste for example.

http://www.hornbecks.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=94&Itemid=67

Cadaver dogs find body wrapped in plastic hidden behind a closet wall in attic.

http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2010/10/cadaver_dog_finds_body_thought.html

Far too many to mention but look at how the defense in one case didn't want the dogs to be admissable. Known in USA as Limine. It's the precursor to the trial I believe where evidence is either granted as admissible or not.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/30194903/Def-in-Limine-Cadaver-Dog

The dog found blood in the filter of a tumble dryer. Having been washed, I daresay it was a slight trace, but he or she found it.

Good and clever dog.

"Cadaver dogs found a blood residue in a dryer lint trap and the patio drain, which detectives believe may be evidence that someone washed themselves in the back patio area,"



The dogs have it. No wonder Gerry gets so scared at the sight or sound of them.

Ask the dogs Gerry!!!

Thank you for this. I find it incredibly patronising that TM have completely discredited the dogs as they are not 'exact science' yet they invested in numerous psychic and mediums. Go figure.

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Post by friedtomatoes on 03.06.12 7:16

LOL good one pingu, how idiotic of them hey? The pro abductionists are posting like mad elsewhere about the dogs and how they are not reliable or that the handler made them bark in order to further his career and other such pathetic desperate libellous nonsense, but when they are reliabe they could be reacting to this that and the other eg rotting teeth, semen, bo, period blood, but not cadaver scent, but in the extreme possibility that they were it could be anyone who died there or a police officer went in the flat and transmitted the odour, its funny to see barrells being scraped so much

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Post by FH on 11.06.12 15:24

pingunootnoot wrote:
Spaniel wrote:Thankyou candyfloss. Our Hi De Ho is a star.

While seeking the video;

Cadaver dogs searching for two little bodies, now another land fill site being searched also in California.

http://laist.com/2012/05/07/cadaver_dogs_return_to_brea_landfil.php

Why cadaver dogs are not taken to landfill sites if at all possible. Rather like taking a cadaver dog to a cemetery and asking it to search for a body. Landfills are full of illegal hospital waste for example.

http://www.hornbecks.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=94&Itemid=67

Cadaver dogs find body wrapped in plastic hidden behind a closet wall in attic.

http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2010/10/cadaver_dog_finds_body_thought.html

Far too many to mention but look at how the defense in one case didn't want the dogs to be admissable. Known in USA as Limine. It's the precursor to the trial I believe where evidence is either granted as admissible or not.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/30194903/Def-in-Limine-Cadaver-Dog

The dog found blood in the filter of a tumble dryer. Having been washed, I daresay it was a slight trace, but he or she found it.

Good and clever dog.

"Cadaver dogs found a blood residue in a dryer lint trap and the patio drain, which detectives believe may be evidence that someone washed themselves in the back patio area,"



The dogs have it. No wonder Gerry gets so scared at the sight or sound of them.

Ask the dogs Gerry!!!

Thank you for this. I find it incredibly patronising that TM have completely discredited the dogs as they are not 'exact science' yet they invested in numerous psychic and mediums. Go figure.



I think the investigation of information from psychics and mediums is not necessarily because anyone in the investigation necessarily believes in psychics and mediums, it is more because information is sometimes leaked by witnesses who do not want to be identified under the guise of having come from a psychic/medium.

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Post by sonic72 on 10.09.12 1:34

The Mccann's and their apologists claim cadaver dogs are 'unreliable' yet they fail to provide any examples of these dogs being unreliable!

Kate & Gerry are unreliable parents, if they had been reliable then maddy would not have gone 'missing'.

The cadaver dog was given a choice of cars, he checked them all, and only reacted when it came into contact with the mccann's car.

There's a video on youtube somewhere of a cadaver dog assisting to find a body, and whoever had dumped said body had placed meat on top of it, perhaps thinking that if a dog found the scent they would stop looking because it's only rotting meat, but alas, after the dog alerted them, and they found rotting meat in the ground, the dog kept barking and alerting them, and they dug further, and found a body, the dog was differentiating between rotting meat, and cadaver scent, that is what they are trained to find, this is how good they are at what they do.

So the mccann's rotting meat claims are utter BS, who keeps rotting meat in their car anyway?!

Cadaver dogs don't lie, humans do though.
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Post by jd on 10.09.12 2:07

sonic72 wrote:The Mccann's and their apologists claim cadaver dogs are 'unreliable' yet they fail to provide any examples of these dogs being unreliable!

Kate & Gerry are unreliable parents, if they had been reliable then maddy would not have gone 'missing'.

The cadaver dog was given a choice of cars, he checked them all, and only reacted when it came into contact with the mccann's car.

There's a video on youtube somewhere of a cadaver dog assisting to find a body, and whoever had dumped said body had placed meat on top of it, perhaps thinking that if a dog found the scent they would stop looking because it's only rotting meat, but alas, after the dog alerted them, and they found rotting meat in the ground, the dog kept barking and alerting them, and they dug further, and found a body, the dog was differentiating between rotting meat, and cadaver scent, that is what they are trained to find, this is how good they are at what they do.

So the mccann's rotting meat claims are utter BS, who keeps rotting meat in their car anyway?!

Cadaver dogs don't lie, humans do though.

bravo Absolutely spot on!

This is the video you are referring to I think. The Cadaver dogs who found a dead body 10ft under ground bypassing the rotten meat to the body....the dogs pinpointed it not only 10ft under ground but at the location within acres of land. No human could ever have found the body, only the dogs could. People generally do not understand the superior sense of smell and a dogs nose to a humans. Those very same dogs that alerted to cadaver/blood in 13 different places ,all of which were solely and uniquely to the mccanns, are regarded so good & important with their 100% record in over 200 cases that they now work for the FBI


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"The fact that man knows right from wrong proves his intellectual superiority to other creatures;
but the fact that he can do wrong proves his moral inferiority to any creature that cannot.

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Post by Guest on 10.09.12 8:57

Nice quote PM and so true !!

And ofcourse dogs dont lie ! And i do not believe the dog handler made the dog mark on K and G clothes, car and appartment either. First why would he ? He was british and G asked for the dogs did he not?

The police used a cadaver dog in the Sigrid case we just had in Norway, the dog found her body. That dog had only worked for 3,5 years and is no way near 200 cases like the dogs used in the M case..

For me it is the dogs , suggesting something happened in the appartment and the parents covered it up.

I have been thinking that the lies about the shutter, JT sighting of abductor, timeline, checking their children etc could have come because they did not check at all on the children, and left the pattio door open so they could hear if their children where crying or shouting ( since this was late in the week and there had already been a couple of nights with crying) . And when they got back they found M gone for real. And had to lie about the regular checks etc to bee seen as less neglectic parents, lied about the shutters because they left the door open and that would give them a bad case, JT sighting to confirm she is abducted and shift focus away from their own neglect..

I could have believed that , if it wasn't for the dogs ! The dogs clearly implies there was a dead body all over Kate, their appartment, their flowerbed and hire car ! Even on cuddlecat..
And there was two dogs, marking in the same place independent of eachother..

Blame it on the doghandler, why have they not dragged him to court then ? I truly believe the dogs have done more harm to their case than Amaral will ever do..

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Post by Newintown on 10.09.12 14:38

Moa wrote:Nice quote PM and so true !!

And ofcourse dogs dont lie ! And i do not believe the dog handler made the dog mark on K and G clothes, car and appartment either. First why would he ? He was british and G asked for the dogs did he not?

The police used a cadaver dog in the Sigrid case we just had in Norway, the dog found her body. That dog had only worked for 3,5 years and is no way near 200 cases like the dogs used in the M case..

For me it is the dogs , suggesting something happened in the appartment and the parents covered it up.

I have been thinking that the lies about the shutter, JT sighting of abductor, timeline, checking their children etc could have come because they did not check at all on the children, and left the pattio door open so they could hear if their children where crying or shouting ( since this was late in the week and there had already been a couple of nights with crying) . And when they got back they found M gone for real. And had to lie about the regular checks etc to bee seen as less neglectic parents, lied about the shutters because they left the door open and that would give them a bad case, JT sighting to confirm she is abducted and shift focus away from their own neglect..

I could have believed that , if it wasn't for the dogs ! The dogs clearly implies there was a dead body all over Kate, their appartment, their flowerbed and hire car ! Even on cuddlecat..
And there was two dogs, marking in the same place independent of eachother..

Blame it on the doghandler, why have they not dragged him to court then ? I truly believe the dogs have done more harm to their case than Amaral will ever do..


If the dog handler HAD deliberately made the dog mark on those items for the video, and if Madeleine HAD been "abducted" but turned up the next day or soon after, all dog handlers who had used dogs in the past and would need to use them in the future would be made to look pretty stupid and the credibility of every one of them would be in tatters.

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Post by Guest on 10.09.12 15:11

Newintown wrote:
Moa wrote:Nice quote PM and so true !!

And ofcourse dogs dont lie ! And i do not believe the dog handler made the dog mark on K and G clothes, car and appartment either. First why would he ? He was british and G asked for the dogs did he not?

The police used a cadaver dog in the Sigrid case we just had in Norway, the dog found her body. That dog had only worked for 3,5 years and is no way near 200 cases like the dogs used in the M case..

For me it is the dogs , suggesting something happened in the appartment and the parents covered it up.

I have been thinking that the lies about the shutter, JT sighting of abductor, timeline, checking their children etc could have come because they did not check at all on the children, and left the pattio door open so they could hear if their children where crying or shouting ( since this was late in the week and there had already been a couple of nights with crying) . And when they got back they found M gone for real. And had to lie about the regular checks etc to bee seen as less neglectic parents, lied about the shutters because they left the door open and that would give them a bad case, JT sighting to confirm she is abducted and shift focus away from their own neglect..

I could have believed that , if it wasn't for the dogs ! The dogs clearly implies there was a dead body all over Kate, their appartment, their flowerbed and hire car ! Even on cuddlecat..
And there was two dogs, marking in the same place independent of eachother..

Blame it on the doghandler, why have they not dragged him to court then ? I truly believe the dogs have done more harm to their case than Amaral will ever do..


If the dog handler HAD deliberately made the dog mark on those items for the video, and if Madeleine HAD been "abducted" but turned up the next day or soon after, all dog handlers who had used dogs in the past and would need to use them in the future would be made to look pretty stupid and the credibility of every one of them would be in tatters.

Indeed he would, good point ! And they also did find blood behind the sofa where the dogs, both of them, marked..Coincident ? I tend to believe it was not..
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