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Re: Madeleine's 'make-up 'photo

Post by aiyoyo on Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:44 pm

Quite Strange isn't it?

They seemed to lose their valuable things as easily as they picked up drunk off the street.
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Re: Madeleine's 'make-up 'photo

Post by windchime on Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:45 am

Just a thought about little girls and makeup.

My daughter used to love applying make up and even used to ask me to 'make her up' when she was young and we used to have a lot of fun doing both in the privacy of our own home and never photgraphed BUT the thing is I used to wear make up back then - a lot more than I do now - and she used to see me applying my own make up.

Kate hardly wears any make up and certainly does not wear blue eyeshadow - so whose was it and where did it come from.
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Re: Madeleine's 'make-up 'photo

Post by Guest on Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:49 am

@windchime wrote:Just a thought about little girls and makeup.

My daughter used to love applying make up and even used to ask me to 'make her up' when she was young and we used to have a lot of fun doing both in the privacy of our own home and never photgraphed BUT the thing is I used to wear make up back then - a lot more than I do now - and she used to see me applying my own make up.

Kate hardly wears any make up and certainly does not wear blue eyeshadow - so whose was it and where did it come from.
Could it have been airbrushed on?
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Re: Madeleine's 'make-up 'photo

Post by windchime on Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:16 am

Hello Cherry Blossom  sorry, do you mean airbrushed onto the photo 'after' it was taken, I am sure you don't mean airbrushed onto MBM - but just checking?? big grin
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Re: Madeleine's 'make-up 'photo

Post by jay2001 on Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:04 am

I've read through this thread, but not in the right order!  The answer I'm looking for may be in the preceding pages but think it was somewhere else where I read two different explanations for the make up.  One was that Madeleine rummaged through Kate's make up and applied it herself and the other that a friend or beautician did it.  It certainly looks too good for a 3 year old to apply and goodness knows why the Mcs released such a pic.  Always more than one explanation for almost every action.

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Re: Madeleine's 'make-up 'photo

Post by Guest on Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:13 am

I think that the "rummaged through Kate's make-up" was how the good old tabloid media described it when the photo was first made public. The visiting beautician story may be a forum myth as there seems to be no confirmation for it.

It was discussed earlier in this topic that the photo could have been taken in Praia da Luz because of the background but this has not been confirmed.

Goodness knows indeed why the McCanns issued this photo but then, virtually everything they say or do is unfathomable.
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Re: Madeleine's 'make-up 'photo

Post by marconi on Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:12 am

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@marconi wrote:The bad taste photos and then the perfect genitals.
According to myself those people are sexually disturberd.
They are putting the twins at risk but who cares?
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Re: Madeleine's 'make-up 'photo

Post by loopzdaloop on Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:56 am

@Hicks wrote:
Cherry Blossom wrote:

I too find the photo very unsettling, little girls mess about with make up if they get hold of it, and thats the word mess, I don't believe she applied the make up her self, imo it was put on for her.

Can anybody see a bruise on the right side of her neck?


This again, not normal, posing?



 
Has she been asked to pose or been put in that position, then asked to look at the camera?
You are right Cherry Blossom about a neck bruise, her whole face seems an odd colour, there is a tear stain down the left side of her face, on the right cheek another bruise perhaps?

Another thought is that this is the face of M shortly after death, the discolouration in her face could be due to the death process, the glassy stare looks right past you.
Some people do 'dress' bodies after death.
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Re: Madeleine's 'make-up 'photo

Post by Angelique on Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:54 pm

I wanted to say this in an earlier post but deleted it - but I personally don't agree that this is a "death mask" picture. But if we accept that they have photoshopped previous pictures it's possible to do the same with any picture including the eyes. I refer comperedna5 's information about the iris.

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Re: Madeleine's 'make-up 'photo

Post by Hicks on Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:49 pm

@Angelique wrote:I wanted to say this in an earlier post but deleted it - but I personally don't agree that this is a "death mask" picture. But if we accept that they have photoshopped previous pictures it's possible to do the same with any picture including the eyes. I refer comperedna5 's information about the iris.
I have also wondered about the eyes, whether they had been altered after reading comperedna5 comments about the iris, the whole picture seems to have been played with, the ears are definitely not in the right place.
The face looks to have a blue tint( covered up by the make up?). Read 'what happens to a body after death' .
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Re: Madeleine's 'make-up 'photo

Post by Guest on Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:19 am

@Hicks wrote:
@Angelique wrote:I wanted to say this in an earlier post but deleted it - but I personally don't agree that this is a "death mask" picture. But if we accept that they have photoshopped previous pictures it's possible to do the same with any picture including the eyes. I refer comperedna5 's information about the iris.
I have also wondered about the eyes, whether they had been altered after reading comperedna5 comments about the iris, the whole picture seems to have been played with, the ears are definitely not in the right place.
The face looks to have a blue tint( covered up by the make up?). Read 'what happens to a body after death' .
I've looked and magnified the photo again, agree the face does have a bluish tint, I found it more noticeable from the bottom lip down to the chin right side. Her eyes are so distant, imo she is highly drugged or she is beyond any help 


windchime, yes should have said after.
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Re: Madeleine's 'make-up 'photo

Post by BerylJ on Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:11 am

Cherry Blossom wrote:
@Hicks wrote:
@Angelique wrote:I wanted to say this in an earlier post but deleted it - but I personally don't agree that this is a "death mask" picture. But if we accept that they have photoshopped previous pictures it's possible to do the same with any picture including the eyes. I refer comperedna5 's information about the iris.
I have also wondered about the eyes, whether they had been altered after reading comperedna5 comments about the iris, the whole picture seems to have been played with, the ears are definitely not in the right place.
The face looks to have a blue tint( covered up by the make up?). Read 'what happens to a body after death' .
I've looked and magnified the photo again, agree the face does have a bluish tint, I found it more noticeable from the bottom lip down to the chin right side. Her eyes are so distant, imo she is highly drugged or she is beyond any help 


windchime, yes should have said after.
If only we could see what/who is reflected in her eyes.
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Re: Madeleine's 'make-up 'photo

Post by Angelique on Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:25 am

@Hicks wrote:
@Angelique wrote:I wanted to say this in an earlier post but deleted it - but I personally don't agree that this is a "death mask" picture. But if we accept that they have photoshopped previous pictures it's possible to do the same with any picture including the eyes. I refer comperedna5 's information about the iris.
I have also wondered about the eyes, whether they had been altered after reading comperedna5 comments about the iris, the whole picture seems to have been played with, the ears are definitely not in the right place.
The face looks to have a blue tint( covered up by the make up?). Read 'what happens to a body after death' .
Hicks

Thank you for your reply - I have read up as you suggested and I understand when you refer the discolouration that it could be suggesting a particular scenario. But I am loath to think that it could be so.

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Re: Madeleine's 'make-up 'photo

Post by Hicks on Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:04 am

@BerylJ wrote:
Cherry Blossom wrote:
@Hicks wrote:
@Angelique wrote:I wanted to say this in an earlier post but deleted it - but I personally don't agree that this is a "death mask" picture. But if we accept that they have photoshopped previous pictures it's possible to do the same with any picture including the eyes. I refer comperedna5 's information about the iris.
I have also wondered about the eyes, whether they had been altered after reading comperedna5 comments about the iris, the whole picture seems to have been played with, the ears are definitely not in the right place.
The face looks to have a blue tint( covered up by the make up?). Read 'what happens to a body after death' .
I've looked and magnified the photo again, agree the face does have a bluish tint, I found it more noticeable from the bottom lip down to the chin right side. Her eyes are so distant, imo she is highly drugged or she is beyond any help 


windchime, yes should have said after.
If only we could see what/who is reflected in her eyes.
I have magnified the photo to 400%, look like someone with a white/cream top maybe.

I am not techy so wouldn't have clue, does anyone know if there is a computer process that could blow up/show up what is reflected in the eyes?
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Re: Madeleine's 'make-up 'photo

Post by Hicks on Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:25 am

@Angelique wrote:
@Hicks wrote:
@Angelique wrote:I wanted to say this in an earlier post but deleted it - but I personally don't agree that this is a "death mask" picture. But if we accept that they have photoshopped previous pictures it's possible to do the same with any picture including the eyes. I refer comperedna5 's information about the iris.
I have also wondered about the eyes, whether they had been altered after reading comperedna5 comments about the iris, the whole picture seems to have been played with, the ears are definitely not in the right place.
The face looks to have a blue tint( covered up by the make up?). Read 'what happens to a body after death' .
Hicks

Thank you for your reply - I have read up as you suggested and I understand when you refer the discolouration that it could be suggesting a particular scenario. But I am loath to think that it could be so.
Yes Angelique, it is hard to imagine such a scenario but we do not know what really makes these people tick, and, as they say... the camera never lies.
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Re: Madeleine's 'make-up 'photo

Post by Hicks on Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:34 am

@Hicks wrote:
@BerylJ wrote:
Cherry Blossom wrote:
@Hicks wrote:
@Angelique wrote:I wanted to say this in an earlier post but deleted it - but I personally don't agree that this is a "death mask" picture. But if we accept that they have photoshopped previous pictures it's possible to do the same with any picture including the eyes. I refer comperedna5 's information about the iris.
I have also wondered about the eyes, whether they had been altered after reading comperedna5 comments about the iris, the whole picture seems to have been played with, the ears are definitely not in the right place.
The face looks to have a blue tint( covered up by the make up?). Read 'what happens to a body after death' .
I've looked and magnified the photo again, agree the face does have a bluish tint, I found it more noticeable from the bottom lip down to the chin right side. Her eyes are so distant, imo she is highly drugged or she is beyond any help 


windchime, yes should have said after.
If only we could see what/who is reflected in her eyes.
I have magnified the photo to 400%, look like someone with a white/cream top maybe.

I am not techy so wouldn't have clue, does anyone know if there is a computer process that could blow up/show up what is reflected in the eyes?
Perhaps I am seeing things.... could someone please magnify the eyes to 400%. What do you see regarding the pupil?
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Re: Madeleine's 'make-up 'photo

Post by tigger on Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:12 am

Those eyes are definitely photoshopped. The left eye (on the right ) appears to have no pupil at all and a curious 90degree angle next to the tear duct. The vertical line is carried over the eyelid.

The right eye has the coloboma running into the eyelid. The light reflected in that pupil should also be in the left eye but it isn't.

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Re: Madeleine's 'make-up 'photo

Post by Hicks on Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:42 am

@tigger wrote:Those eyes are definitely photoshopped. The left eye (on the right ) appears to have no pupil at all and a curious 90degree angle next to the tear duct. The vertical line is carried over the eyelid.

The right eye has the coloboma running into the eyelid. The light reflected in that pupil should also be in the left eye but it isn't.
Thank you tigger. That was my thought on the left eye (on the right side).

The mind truly boggles.
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Re: Madeleine's 'make-up 'photo

Post by Guest on Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:37 pm

I hate that picture ...everything about it is disturbing.

I agree about her eyes being shopped but that's par for the course with Madeleine photos. 

Her neck in this photo gets to me. It should be straight and symmetrical to support her head if she had been looking down into the camera but her neck on the right is pushed out like she is unconscious and her head has rolled back. It's not a natural or comfortable position to hold your head. There also seems to be a lot of bruising round her throat that someone has tried to photoshop out and in so doing they have created an strange nick or ledge in her neck on the left.
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Re: Madeleine's 'make-up 'photo

Post by j.rob on Thu May 15, 2014 10:09 pm

Really makes you wonder what all this says about the state of our medical profession, our social services, our police force and much else besides. And the press. Was there not one single journalist or newspaper editor that looked at those awful photos of Madeleine (not to mention the creepy videos and Madeleine was Here episodes for Channel 4) and thought: 'this is not right?' I mean, what is going on here?

Oh yes, page 90 of Madeleine - Kate recounts how Bridget O'Donnell in an article she published several months 'down the line', described how the police officer wrote down answers 'to questions 'on a loose piece of paper rather than a notebook.'

Gosh, how shocking Bridget!

But "of greater concern was his reaction to a photocopied picture of a little girl he noticed lying on their table. He asked them if she was their daughter. Bridget explained that this was Madeleine, the little girl they were supposed to be looking for. 'My heart sank for the McCAnns,' she remembered."


The cheek of it! Given that the parents themselves were unable to produce a single up-to-date photo of their daughter. And that the photos that they have produced of her appear to be heavily photo-shopped and/or appallingly inappropriate, they have a bit of a nerve criticizing the police response who clocked the scam from the word go.

I think what Bridget must have meant was that Madeleine was the little girl her parents were supposed to be looking after. But neglected to. And presumable what she meant is: "my heart sank for Madeleine."

Yes, poor little Madeleine certainly pulled the short straw in terms of her parents. Unfortunately, there are some things in life you cannot chose.

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Re: Madeleine's 'make-up 'photo

Post by worriedmum on Fri May 16, 2014 1:29 am

Is there  any way of telling if the 'eyeshadow' is part of the original photo or whether it was added afterwards on to the existing image?
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Re: Madeleine's 'make-up 'photo

Post by HelenMeg on Fri May 23, 2014 10:35 pm

What continues to amaze me is the photo they put forward to be used in the search for Madeleine from the beginning. She had changed so much from when that photo was taken. She was no longer a toddler with the big-eyed babyish face.   
Obviously it wasn't  a case of the girl needing to be found so it didnt matter too much but there must have been a significant reason as to why they did not use or did not have an up to date photo to use for the campaign.

I notice that in later photos of her she always has these puffiness under her eyes.  Is that genetic  or hereditary as I dont see it in many other children. Does it indicate sedation used? I dont know. Just wondering whether this may be a reason they chose to put forward a very old photo of her.
One thing I m certain of is that there was a strategic reason for using the photo that they chose to use. I think
a possible reason is that they wanted to use a photo that had very little resemblance to how she looked at the time of 'disappearance' - but why?
is it to do with a p word?

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Post by Justformaddie on Sat May 24, 2014 2:44 am

Do I see a coloboma in her other eye or am I looking too closely at it?

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