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British Police said McCanns should be Investigated - Daily Mail 11.02.2010

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Post by Autumn on 16.02.10 0:55

@Pascal wrote:Since when is Vaguely a 'pro'?

To be honest, Im not really happy with labelling anyone 'pro' or 'anti' as it seems too divisive. We are just members here with lots of differing opinions about the case and hopefully, we can find common ground and even share a few laughs about other things along the way. :joker:

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Post by vaguely1 on 16.02.10 6:38

Just as long as people stop chopping my end bits off .....

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Post by Autumn on 16.02.10 11:15

@vaguely1 wrote:Just as long as people stop chopping my end bits off .....

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Re: British Police said McCanns should be Investigated - Daily Mail 11.02.2010

Post by Kololi on 16.02.10 14:33

@whoknowsthetruth wrote:Kololi, i am not pushing it to one side at all. They should not have been left alone.FULL STOP. The service Warners provided was a check service, that involved a Nanny listening at the door. Would that have been acceptable if the McCanns used this sevice and Madeleine still disappeared in the same circumstances.

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Sorry to be a pain guys but I have just re-read this and I am not sure that it is actually correct.

Am I right in thinking that there was no listening at the door nanny service because of the sprawling nature of the resort so instead a FREE creche service was offered to the guests to use for their children untill 11.30pm?

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Re: British Police said McCanns should be Investigated - Daily Mail 11.02.2010

Post by Kololi on 16.02.10 14:39

Hi Bunny
thank you although you have made me feel a little :oops: - always flipping blush when given a compliment - silly really but heyho!

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Re: British Police said McCanns should be Investigated - Daily Mail 11.02.2010

Post by vaguely1 on 16.02.10 15:13

@Kololi wrote:
@whoknowsthetruth wrote:Kololi, i am not pushing it to one side at all. They should not have been left alone.FULL STOP. The service Warners provided was a check service, that involved a Nanny listening at the door. Would that have been acceptable if the McCanns used this sevice and Madeleine still disappeared in the same circumstances.

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Sorry to be a pain guys but I have just re-read this and I am not sure that it is actually correct.

Am I right in thinking that there was no listening at the door nanny service because of the sprawling nature of the resort so instead a FREE creche service was offered to the guests to use for their children untill 11.30pm?



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Yes, that's correct. The listening service is available at other resorts, but the MW PdL has a night creche service.

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Post by Kololi on 16.02.10 15:24

Thank you Vaguely
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Post by vaguely1 on 16.02.10 15:25

I think that they did at one stage provide it, but stopped. Like you say, due to the nature of the resort. x

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Post by Kololi on 16.02.10 15:29

Soooo (with tongue in cheek) maybe it isn't just the "anti" people who get a tadge muddled then......

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Teasing btw but couldn't resist.

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Post by vaguely1 on 16.02.10 15:31

But taking the fact that they used to have one....maybe we could adapt the question for the purposes of this exercise......Say if the McCanns had been in the same place 2 years earlier.


I can't think of anything worse than a baby listening service, but they are obviously used because if they weren't then they wouldn't offer them. But it does pose an interesting question.

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Post by Kololi on 16.02.10 15:44

Yep it does and being the old grump that I can be I would answer that as I did to either Bunny or Whoknowsthetruth yesterday.

Nope not acceptable to have nannies running round listening at childrens' doors - doesn't tell you a thing like whether they are breathing or not and it is likely to cause a whole lot of upset and potential court cases.

I say that because I am guessing that in your scenario Mr and Mrs McCann would want somebodies head on a stick as would most parents whose child gets kidnapped whilst under the supervision of some nannie running round here there and everywhere or pedalling around on a bike as they used to do at Butlins.

Another way to think is if they had paid a babysitter to come into their home and she had buggered off out to meet her pals and only popped back every 30 minutes to check all was ok - how happy would they be with this if they found out?

Times have changed and I am still gobsmacked that this form of babysitting exists now.

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Post by vaguely1 on 16.02.10 15:52

times have changed, not that children are at more risk than they were, but that parents are more aware of the potential risk, and I don't understand it

- but I it does compare with the arrangements of that night.

I don't think that the paid babysitter example is comparable, because a paid babysitter is paid to sit.

What they were doing was comparable with a baby listening service. I've never heard of anybody being charged with neglect for using a baby listening service. If they had then the service would no longer exist.

Anyway....I think we charitably gave the question a run for it's money.

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Post by Kololi on 16.02.10 16:09

I agree totally - we have and I still think God help my children if they ever give me grand children.... big grin
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