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Post by Liz Eagles 13.02.12 6:29

Jean wrote:You took the words out of my mouth Uppatoffee and, as I type this, the noise of oinking and grunting outside is deafening. I'd better clarify that I mean flying pigs rather than anything my neighbours are getting up to.

bums parked on Lorraine Kelly's sofa coming to a tv near you soon.

wearing high quality wrist bands of course.
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Post by Cheshire Cat 13.02.12 7:01

aiyoyo wrote:
Cheshire Cat wrote:The granting of the Met Review was timed to coincide with the launch of the book so it is not suprising that the agenda will continue to be set by the McCanns and the updated book will coincide with a progress report from the Met.

Hmmm....I thought book release date was timed to coincide with Maddie's b/day anniversary?
Looks like she intends to revise and update her "version of an account of the truth" annually - it's a nice annual bonus for her.
I didn't buy her last book and don't intend to go anywhere near her new one even if given to me, she makes my skin crawls.

They may try to spin the Yard's review, but I would be surprised if the yard keeps them informed.

I should have said that the announcement of the Met review was timed to coincide with the serialisation of the book.
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Post by womandotcom 13.02.12 21:16

tigger wrote:
T4two wrote:After reading the comments on the blogs about all the discrepancies, KM totally revises the book to make the story fit the facts. It's what they've always done - why change now? At the speed she can think, their story should have completely changed by books 4 or 5. The film follows ready for the tenth anniversary.

Kate's new book- to debut in Spring! - Page 2 636506 Although, T4two, in five years time the public will no longer be interested. Judging from the comments under recent articles, most people are already fed up to the back teeth with this saga.

All this started in 2007 - I think that was the beginning of the end for the financial boom. Surely that background must have been part of the whole affair? I know the Lehman brothers didn't go bankrupt until 2008, but surely the cracks must have been showing long before? Northern Rock for one in sept. 2007.
The backdrop against which all this has been played out over five years (unremitting financial crises) must surely be a factor?

And a film, please never!!! Who would play the handsome pair? Fugitives from East Enders?



They would of course play 'themselves' Tigger, far more money in that for our intrepid pair.

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Post by aiyoyo 14.02.12 3:35

womandotcom wrote:
tigger wrote:
T4two wrote:After reading the comments on the blogs about all the discrepancies, KM totally revises the book to make the story fit the facts. It's what they've always done - why change now? At the speed she can think, their story should have completely changed by books 4 or 5. The film follows ready for the tenth anniversary.

Kate's new book- to debut in Spring! - Page 2 636506 Although, T4two, in five years time the public will no longer be interested. Judging from the comments under recent articles, most people are already fed up to the back teeth with this saga.

All this started in 2007 - I think that was the beginning of the end for the financial boom. Surely that background must have been part of the whole affair? I know the Lehman brothers didn't go bankrupt until 2008, but surely the cracks must have been showing long before? Northern Rock for one in sept. 2007.
The backdrop against which all this has been played out over five years (unremitting financial crises) must surely be a factor?

And a film, please never!!! Who would play the handsome pair? Fugitives from East Enders?



They would of course play 'themselves' Tigger, far more money in that for our intrepid pair.

Would people pay to watch kate roll her eyes and do her infamous heave heavily follow by shoulder lift gesture?

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Post by womandotcom 14.02.12 3:55

aiyoyo wrote:
womandotcom wrote:
tigger wrote:
T4two wrote:After reading the comments on the blogs about all the discrepancies, KM totally revises the book to make the story fit the facts. It's what they've always done - why change now? At the speed she can think, their story should have completely changed by books 4 or 5. The film follows ready for the tenth anniversary.

Kate's new book- to debut in Spring! - Page 2 636506 Although, T4two, in five years time the public will no longer be interested. Judging from the comments under recent articles, most people are already fed up to the back teeth with this saga.

All this started in 2007 - I think that was the beginning of the end for the financial boom. Surely that background must have been part of the whole affair? I know the Lehman brothers didn't go bankrupt until 2008, but surely the cracks must have been showing long before? Northern Rock for one in sept. 2007.
The backdrop against which all this has been played out over five years (unremitting financial crises) must surely be a factor?

And a film, please never!!! Who would play the handsome pair? Fugitives from East Enders?



They would of course play 'themselves' Tigger, far more money in that for our intrepid pair.

Would people pay to watch kate roll her eyes and do her infamous heave heavily follow by shoulder lift gesture?




yes Aiyoyo, the same people who paid for her 'very truthful' bewk Kate's new book- to debut in Spring! - Page 2 302873

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Post by russiandoll 14.02.12 8:52

so not George Clooney for Gerry then?
and not Kate Winslet for the missus?

nah don't think so.




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Post by pauline 14.02.12 9:04

russiandoll wrote: so not George Clooney for Gerry then?
and not Kate Winslet for the missus?

nah don't think so.




Clooney and Winslet are A list stars and therefore expensive - mightn't be much profit from the film for the Fund. And even films with top names can flop....
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Post by tiny 14.02.12 9:05

tigger wrote:
T4two wrote:After reading the comments on the blogs about all the discrepancies, KM totally revises the book to make the story fit the facts. It's what they've always done - why change now? At the speed she can think, their story should have completely changed by books 4 or 5. The film follows ready for the tenth anniversary.

Kate's new book- to debut in Spring! - Page 2 636506 Although, T4two, in five years time the public will no longer be interested. Judging from the comments under recent articles, most people are already fed up to the back teeth with this saga.

All this started in 2007 - I think that was the beginning of the end for the financial boom. Surely that background must have been part of the whole affair? I know the Lehman brothers didn't go bankrupt until 2008, but surely the cracks must have been showing long before? Northern Rock for one in sept. 2007.
The backdrop against which all this has been played out over five years (unremitting financial crises) must surely be a factor?

And a film, please never!!! Who would play the handsome pair? Fugitives from East Enders?

i have no doubt there will be a film,but i dont think the ending will be what the mccanns want,with them the grieving parents
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Post by aiyoyo 14.02.12 9:24

russiandoll wrote: so not George Clooney for Gerry then?
and not Kate Winslet for the missus?

nah don't think so.




George Clooney and Kate Winslet are actually very amicable and pleasantly nice type of people.

How about Sean Penn (Dead Man Walking ) ,and Glenn Close (Fatal Attraction, the bunny boiler) - these two might be more suitable to play G & K, yes?
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Post by Guest 14.02.12 9:25

If we consider this with the JonBenet Ramsey case.

JonBenet's body was found on the 26th December 1996.

The film 'Perfect Murder, Perfect Town', was realsed in February 2000.

That's 3 years and 2 months, after that tragedy.

Madeleine disappeared on 3rd May 2007 and it is now 4 years and 9 months later and still no sign of a film.

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Post by Guest 14.02.12 9:47

I can visualise one of those dire made-for-TV movies which state that they are based on a true story. This one will be a little different because we're still trying to establish what was the truth about the event. Donal McIntyre - assisted by Jez Wilkins if necessary - can be in charge of production; what a blockbuster it will be!
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Post by Liz Eagles 14.02.12 9:52

Jean wrote:I can visualise one of those dire made-for-TV movies which state that they are based on a true story. This one will be a little different because we're still trying to establish what was the truth about the event. Donal McIntyre - assisted by Jez Wilkins if necessary - can be in charge of production; what a blockbuster it will be!

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Post by Guest 14.02.12 10:07

Jean wrote:I can visualise one of those dire made-for-TV movies which state that they are based on a true story. This one will be a little different because we're still trying to establish what was the truth about the event. Donal McIntyre - assisted by Jez Wilkins if necessary - can be in charge of production; what a blockbuster it will be!

If it were not for those types of movies Jean, no one would ever hear about any of the crimes they cover. It is a good thing, not a bad thing. Someone who was closely linked to the original Ramsey case, said it was well on par with exactly what happened during that investigation. No one ever got to the truth there either, so it would be exactly the same as this. Something happens to a child. The investigation is hijacked by Political interference. The lead investigator is discredited. There is lots and lots of circumstantial evidence, but they are not allowed to put pressure on the main suspects and bingo, nothing. The only difference I can see, is in that particular case, at least they had a body.
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Post by ShuBob 14.02.12 15:35

aiyoyo wrote:
russiandoll wrote: so not George Clooney for Gerry then?
and not Kate Winslet for the missus?

Kate's new book- to debut in Spring! - Page 2 172348 don't think so.




George Clooney and Kate Winslet are actually very amicable and pleasantly nice type of people.

How about Sean Penn (Dead Man Walking ) ,and Glenn Close (Fatal Attraction, the bunny boiler) - these two might be more suitable to play G & K, yes?

I'll go for John Malkovich (Con Air).
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Post by uppatoffee 14.02.12 20:00

I must say what a coincidence it was to find that the "reporter" who wrote this article lives in Rothley. What are the odds on that eh?! Perhaps she and Kate are writing it together, hence her exclusive!

What was it Kate said about coincidences??? Mr
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Post by Guest 14.02.12 23:07

How do you know where the reporter lives, Uppatoffee?
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Post by uppatoffee 14.02.12 23:12

The article now says Tracey Kandohla instead of just reporter. She has written quite a few articles, mainly when she was working for Murdoch.
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Post by uppatoffee 14.02.12 23:13

Just realised didn't actually answer! Did a google and 192 search Jean.
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Post by Angelique 14.02.12 23:31

If the McCanns do go ahead and make a Film (God Forbid) - it would be their version of events so would not necessarily be helpful whereas the JonBenet film I am guessing was done independently, yes ?

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Post by Guest 14.02.12 23:37

It's an unusual combination of names so I can well believe the reporter could be a neighbour. Here's one of her stomach churning McCann stories from the Sunday Express.

http://gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/10jan8/EXPRESS-20-01-08.htm

Plus an unrelated one from her time with The Sun.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/86698/She-seduced-me-on-hols.html

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Post by Daisy 15.02.12 11:27

uppatoffee wrote:I must say what a coincidence it was to find that the "reporter" who wrote this article lives in Rothley. What are the odds on that eh?! Perhaps she and Kate are writing it together, hence her exclusive!

What was it Kate said about coincidences??? Kate's new book- to debut in Spring! - Page 2 609562

Nice find Uppatoffee! Yet another amazing coincidence.

I have a feeling that when Tracey Kandohia refers to a (unnamed) friend of Kate's in these articles, she's actually talking about herself.

She's a neighbour of the McCann's pfft!

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Post by Daisy 17.02.12 14:00

uppatoffee wrote:Just realised didn't actually answer! Did a google and 192 search Jean.

Uppatoffee, unless I'm doing something wrong - the information you found seems to have disappeared in the last few days. Put "Tracey Kandohi" into the above searches now & barely anything comes up. I can't find her at all on 192 now and I know this info was there the other day (along with her address in Rothley) I saw it for myself.

I guess we weren't meant to find out that one of the journalists peddling the most blatant pro McCann propaganda is a close neighbour & no doubt good friend of the couple.

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Post by Guest 17.02.12 14:04

Daisy her name is Tracey Kandohla. Here is a an article from Jo Morais about her......



http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2010/10/tracey-kandohla-when-will-you-learnohla.html


ETA in the comments section No.13, someone mentions she lives in Rothley
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Post by Daisy 17.02.12 14:11

Ah thank you Candyfloss, my mistake for being lazy & just copying & pasting the name from Uppatoffee's earlier post.

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Post by Daisy 17.02.12 14:20

TRACEY KANDOHLA ROTHLEY, LEICESTERSHIRE, LE7 7NY

K & G MCCANN ROTHLEY, LEICESTERSHIRE, LE7 7RW

Edit: Correction to Mccann postcode, thanks Jean

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Post by Guest 17.02.12 14:47

I think that the one for the McCanns should be LE7 7RW.

According to the Royal Mail site, LE7 7NR is an industrial estate called Lazarus Court.
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Post by russiandoll 03.03.12 10:31

well I wonder if this little snippet will be edited out of the paperback version. I doubt it......and I find it most interesting.

I am trying to be logical at all times when reading about this case and logic tells me that if I have been reading on and off for a few years but only decided to come to a forum to debate issues after reading Kate Mccann's book, then it must thave had quite an effect on me.
It was not a particularly well written book, and it was remarkably manipulative and self-serving, despite some genuine harrowing accounts of loss and distress.
I think Kate McCann tells us what happened in this book, but in a cryptic way. I am convinced she is mentally very unwell and has created an alternative reality , one which she needs to live life from day to day. The truth is somewhere in that book I am sure.

This should be moved to forensic linguistics, will try to copy there, as the statements of the tapas bunch and especially the couple do show how the truth will do its best to leak out despite attempts to control what comes out of your mouth.
This is probably true of the book and no truer than in the following in my opinion.

I decided to re read Pamela Fenn's statement about her hearing crying for a long time one evening. I then thought of the mean- mouthed way she was treated in Kate's book.......I can only assume it was Mrs Fenn Kate referred to as she was not named, but is the only female I read about anywhere responding to the commotion from a balcony after 10pm 3rd May.
I then read a newpaper article about the book, and a reference to this woman's reaction which angered Kate.....as if a can of beans had gone missing.
No, no. I recalled this was not what Kate wrote at all....and I have the paragraph here, which imo is well worth examining :


Kate’s account (page 75):

"Then a lady appeared on a balcony – I’m fairly certain this was about 11pm, before the police arrived – and, in a plummy voice, inquired, ‘Can someone tell me what all the noise is about?’ I explained as clearly as I was able, given the state I was in, that my little girl had been stolen from her bed, to which she casually responded, ‘Oh, I see,’ almost as if she’d just been told that a can of beans had fallen off a kitchen shelf. I remember feeling both shocked and angry at this woefully inadequate and apparently unconcerned reaction. I recollect that in our outrage, Fiona and I shouted back something rather short and to the point."

Now, this is bizarre, very bizarre. You are making a point about what you perceive to be an inadequate response to something significant. This relates to a verb...to steal. Someone has been stolen, and not just any old someone, a beloved child.
The analogy I and most logical people would expect here would include the same verb. And as the book is being written well after the event, there is time to reflect and edit and change the wording of this paragraph. Even if this had been taken from her diary which she started to write shortly after May 3, for her book, would a different more appropriate analogy not have sprung immediately to mind.....and if not straight away, after a read -through of the draft.

Why not keep the same verb and write for example......" almost as if she'd just been told my watch/passport/money had been stolen, and not my precious daughter ".
Why a can of beans? why falling? why falling off anything? The analogy I 'm making from her bringing in the verb to fall... is that she is speaking about a trivial falling incident as opposed to a significant one. The change of verb in this particular paragraph centred on THE EVENT, and reactions to it in the immediate aftermath, is of extreme significance imho.
She has clearly, when writing this paragraph, the image of falling in her mind and makes a very strange but telling analogy imo.......
Maybe Madeleine McCann fell sometime during that holiday, fell off something she had climbed or tried to climb onto, maybe a kitchen worktop using a chair, maybe the balcony. And if this did not lead directly to her death then she sustained a catastrophic head injury which over hours or days killed her.

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Post by Guest 03.03.12 10:47

Good post russiandoll. Had never really noticed, but yes, very strange wording, using a can of beans falling from as shelf. thinking
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Post by happychick 03.03.12 12:03

Goncarlo once said this :- "They are being left to sleep alone, while the parents get drunk at social gatherings, falling from windows and balconies like ripe fruit, or drying inside vehicles without the according penal sanction occurring"

Windows and balconies? How can you fall from both? Two separate occasions perhaps? Or could Madeleine have fallen from the window then climbed up and fallen over the balcony? Wasn't cadavour odour found in the flower bed?

But, anyway, Mr Amaral seems to think she fell from a window like ripe fruit whereas Kate says from a kitchen shelf like baked beans.

And if she fell over a balcony then why the need for the McCanns to clean the apartment and wash the curtains?
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Post by russiandoll 03.03.12 15:25

It just does not make sense to me, even allowing for a mind under stress, to make such an analogy.........if you were speaking indignantly about something precious to you that had been stolen...........say something that had been given to you by a deceased parent........and when describing the theft to someone who just shrugged their shoulders as if to say no big deal....then told this to a third party just like Kate has done in her book..........
would you more likely say to this person

" you would think from her reaction I had told her that old watch of mine had been stolen [ thinking, it was my late mum's gold chain for gods sake, she could have shown a bit more sympathy!]

or this
" you would think from her reaction I had told her a box of eggs had fallen on the floor."

No correlation whatsoever..........still, the same applies.........the last one is comparing a fall, not a theft.

Kate might have told Mrs Fenn about a stolen child.
Not what she was thinking about when assessing Mrs Fenns reaction, however...
The verb, very interestingly, is FALL.

again, I ask.....why did Kate, when deciding not to stay with' stolen' for a simple analogy........choose this particular verb?
She could have said lots of things unrelated to taking, stealing...describing a sudden but trivial incident , to make a point about how angry she was at Mrs Fenns lack of appreciation of the gravity of the situation:

and the verb moves from active to passive as well as changing....

my daughter had been stolen [ something happened to Maddie, there was an agent [ abductor] doing something.
a can of beans had fallen off a shelf.......[ no one knocked them off....no agent, no 2nd party.....just something, somewhere, that fell].









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contrived and dishonest — but the myth — persistent, persuasive and
unrealistic.
~John F. Kennedy

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