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Post by AndyB 18.07.13 12:27

Anyone know what this is about? The reference to an injunction is interesting
Grange Detectives Re-interview UK man in Madeleine McCann Abduction
Operation Grange detectives have today confirmed that they have asked their “regional” police colleagues to re-interview a man and his then time partner with regards to the abduction of Madeleine McCann.

The man was first interviewed in 2007 after it was revealed by the Polícia Judiciária he had demanded along with his partner to have an audience with the investigating team on the case. They also left items of apparent gratuity  for the detectives that were later filed as evidence.

This report ends here because there is an injunction against any further reporting of this incident that covers who the man was, what his relationship was to the woman, and her family background.

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Post by suzyjohnson 18.07.13 12:36

Yes that's interesting.

What's a time partner? Should that be one-time partner?

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Post by Liz Eagles 18.07.13 12:42

AndyB do you have the link please?
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Post by jeanmonroe 18.07.13 12:43

AndyB.

Do you KNOW if the case of the 'missing' child Madeleine McCann been OFFICIALLY re-opened by any police authority in the UK or abroad?
If it has, won't the McCanns and their friends, instantly become persons of interest?

http://ordinisrubricrucis.wordpress.com/2013/06/05/grange-detectives-re-interview-uk-man-in-madeleine-mccann-abduction/

MURAT?

"with regards to the abduction of Madeleine McCann."

Any PROOF/EVIDENCE of an 'abduction' please!

"They also left items of apparent gratuity for the detectives that were later filed as evidence."

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
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Post by AndyB 18.07.13 12:48

aquila wrote:AndyB do you have the link please?
The link is in the original post where it says "link".

It's this http://ordinisrubricrucis.wordpress.com/2013/06/05/grange-detectives-re-interview-uk-man-in-madeleine-mccann-abduction/
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Post by Liz Eagles 18.07.13 12:49

AndyB wrote:
aquila wrote:AndyB do you have the link please?
The link is in the original post where it says "link".

It's this http://ordinisrubricrucis.wordpress.com/2013/06/05/grange-detectives-re-interview-uk-man-in-madeleine-mccann-abduction/

 Thank you AndyB but it only said 'link' in red - there was no link.
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Post by AndyB 18.07.13 12:53

jeanmonroe wrote:AndyB.

Do you KNOW if the case of the 'missing' child Madeleine McCann been OFFICIALLY re-opened by any police authority in the UK or abroad?
Yes, by Scotland Yard
jeanmonroe wrote:If it has, won't the McCanns and their friends, instantly become persons of interest?
They should be but Scotland Yard say they're not
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Post by AndyB 18.07.13 12:55

@ Aquila - the word "link" is clickable ;-)
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Post by Liz Eagles 18.07.13 13:02

AndyB wrote:@ Aquila - the word "link" is clickable ;-)

thank you AndyB, that's a new one on me. It hadn't occurred to me to click on the text. I must say though I like to see a full link before deciding to open it.
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Post by marconi 18.07.13 13:07

AndyB wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:AndyB.

Do you KNOW if the case of the 'missing' child Madeleine McCann been OFFICIALLY re-opened by any police authority in the UK or abroad?
Yes, by Scotland Yard
jeanmonroe wrote:If it has, won't the McCanns and their friends, instantly become persons of interest?
They should be but Scotland Yard say they're not

It is not  yet so far that Tapas 9 can be made suspects.  As I wrote here before, the Met police are cleaning up the road before they get to the Tapas. Of course the Yard knows that Maddie is dead and that the group of 9 are involved in the case.
We have to wait. At the moment that the Tapas are made suspects, it will go together with arrests, imo.
Perhaps more people will come forward telling the truth before the police make them suspects. "Relationships change" Gamble's words. And it is true.
That wil be a huge organisation before action is taken.

Don't forget Redwood's words "...witnesses evidence". He said it in the plural.
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Post by margaret 18.07.13 13:11

Forget that post, have you seen this one on the right on that article pray


http://ordinisrubricrucis.wordpress.com/2013/07/07/madeleine-mccann-prime-suspect-could-be-tried-in-uk/

Madeleine McCann Prime Suspect could be tried in UK

Posted on July 7, 2013 by fattassassin
The UK Home Secretary is now negotiating with the Portuguese Attorney to try the prime suspect in the Madeleine McCann case in England upon arrest.

Although Madeleine went missing from her family holiday apartment in the Portuguese Algarve, Theresa May has been pushing the Portuguese authorities to support a trial in the English courts. Swiftly following the deportation of Abu Qatada, May sees the rescue of Madeleine McCann to be the next prominent issue her office will deal with the backing of the UK Prime Minister, David Cameron.

While Operation Grange held a press conference this week to announce their current findings to date, their Portuguese equivalents made several arrests (arguidos) including a freelance journalist and their former partner. Both were detained 28th June while accusations of perverting the course of justice are investigated.

A former lead Portuguese investigator in the McCann case has been requested by appointment to answer further questions by Grange aligned detectives.

In the United Kingdom more arrests are scheduled for the weekend.

Madeleine’s parents Kate and Gerry are very pleased with the progress made so far and are due to meet with Operation Grange deceives and the Home Secretary this week.
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Post by Guest 18.07.13 13:13

Madeleine McCann Prime Suspect could be tried in UK
Posted on July 7, 2013 by fattassassin The UK Home Secretary is now negotiating with the Portuguese Attorney to try the prime suspect in the Madeleine McCann case in England upon arrest.

Although Madeleine went missing from her family holiday apartment in the Portuguese Algarve, Theresa May has been pushing the Portuguese authorities to support a trial in the English courts. Swiftly following the deportation of Abu Qatada, May sees the rescue of Madeleine McCann to be the next prominent issue her office will deal with the backing of the UK Prime Minister, David Cameron.

While Operation Grange held a press conference this week to announce their current findings to date, their Portuguese equivalents made several arrests (arguidos) including a freelance journalist and their former partner. Both were detained 28th June while accusations of perverting the course of justice are investigated.

A former lead Portuguese investigator in the McCann case has been requested by appointment to answer further questions by Grange aligned detectives.

In the United Kingdom more arrests are scheduled for the weekend.

Madeleine’s parents Kate and Gerry are very pleased with the progress made so far and are due to meet with Operation Grange deceives and the Home Secretary this week.

http://ordinisrubricrucis.wordpress.com/2013/07/07/madeleine-mccann-prime-suspect-could-be-tried-in-uk/
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Post by jeanmonroe 18.07.13 13:15

AndyB wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:AndyB.

Do you KNOW if the case of the 'missing' child Madeleine McCann been OFFICIALLY re-opened by any police authority in the UK or abroad?
Yes, by Scotland Yard
jeanmonroe wrote:If it has, won't the McCanns and their friends, instantly become persons of interest?
They should be but Scotland Yard say they're not

OK.
Surely the most important 'persons of interest' would be the people that were ACTUALLY there at the EXACT time of the 'crime'?

That is ONLY the McCanns and their friends.+JW.

Could the man mentioned in the article be either JW or RM?

As we know the 'friends' of the McCanns tried to set RM up.
And who's to know when the McCanns could/will turn on JW?
After all, they have already said he was NOT where he said he was when chatting to GM.

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Post by Cristobell 18.07.13 13:18

Ordin***** is a headcase and his blog is pure lies, really not worth discussing.
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Post by jeanmonroe 18.07.13 13:26

,,their Portuguese equivalents made several arrests (arguidos) including a freelance journalist and their former partner. Both were detained 28th June while accusations of perverting the course of justice are investigated.

A bit like all the journos in this country, UK, paying police at SY for 'information'!
A bit like all SY police paid by journos for supplying information to journos

DCI Casburn.

Rebekah Brooks replied, "We have paid police for information in the past."

On 13 March 2012, Brooks was rearrested, together with her husband, on suspicion of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice. Ninety people have been arrested in conjunction with illegal acquisition of confidential information since police renewed investigations in 2011, many of them employees or agents of newspapers for which Brooks had responsibilities

90 (NINETY) PEOPLE ARRESTED! (so far)!
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Post by margaret 18.07.13 13:26

Cristobell wrote:Ordin***** is a headcase and his blog is pure lies, really not worth discussing.

 Thanks, panic over then!
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Post by Guest 18.07.13 13:50

margaret wrote:
Cristobell wrote:Ordin***** is a headcase and his blog is pure lies, really not worth discussing.

 Thanks, panic over then!

I'm very doubtful about the truth on that blog.too

http://ordinisrubricrucis.wordpress.com/2013/06/25/same-facebook-group-another-death-threat-at-kate-mccann-from-entrenched-goncalo-amaral-supporter/
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Post by AndyB 18.07.13 13:53

Cristobell wrote:Ordin***** is a headcase and his blog is pure lies, really not worth discussing.

There's certainly a very heavy pro-McCann spin - he claims elsewhere that it was Amaral who wanted to settle with the McCanns rather than vice-versa for example. Its biased so much that at one point I did wonder if it was Jerry or Kate but I suppose  a random headcase is more likely. I take it you've come across him before?

(His latest article where he claims that SY are asking the Portuguese for permission to prosecute a case in the UK is pure nonsense and its difficult to see what his reasoning could be)
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Post by Liz Eagles 18.07.13 13:54

What are your thoughts AndyB on the link you posted?
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Post by jeanmonroe 18.07.13 14:06

obscuration!

indistinct, vague, or indefinite
unclear or abstruse
to cover or cloud over
to make unclear, vague, or hidden
inconspicuous or unimportant

obfuscate.

to confuse, bewilder, or stupefy.
to make obscure or unclear: to obfuscate a problem with extraneous information.
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Post by AndyB 18.07.13 14:10

aquila wrote:What are your thoughts AndyB on the link you posted?
The site is very pro-McCann but that doesn't mean that everything he writes is necessarily wrong. I initially thought that, perhaps, if he was close to the McCanns, or it was one of them, he might have access to information that isn't general knowledge, such as the content of the article I posted. Now though Im coming round to Cristobell's way of thinking: The man is delusional. This is how he describes his blog
Rubriwhatsit wrote:The official blog of an old order who were established the day others decided to use Madeleine McCann as weapon with which to attack her family with.

We conceal our identities because it makes it easier to access places on the internet which would otherwise be off limits to someone who cares about Madeleine’s safety and her return to her family.

Link: http://ordinisrubricrucis.wordpress.com/about/
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Post by Guest 18.07.13 14:27

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The official blog of an old order who were established the day others decided to use Madeleine McCann as weapon with which to attack her family with.

We conceal our identities because it makes it easier to access places on the internet which would otherwise be off limits to someone who cares about Madeleine’s safety and her return to her family.

Old Holborn on anonymity:

- Why do you blog under a pseudonym?

Attack the message, not the man. The minute your opponents discover your identity, they attack it instead of your message. Rational debate goes out the window whilst they rummage through your dustbin in the hope of undermining your argument. How many voices are silenced for fear of exposure? Whistle-blowers are hounded, ridiculed, persecuted and despised: so the truth is suppressed. There’s a reason that governments hate the “Anonymous” movement – they cannot control it. Anyone can be Old Holborn

http://ordinisrubricrucis.wordpress.com/about/

Well now we know!!
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Post by sheila.edwards 18.07.13 14:32

jeanmonroe wrote:
AndyB wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:AndyB.

Do you KNOW if the case of the 'missing' child Madeleine McCann been OFFICIALLY re-opened by any police authority in the UK or abroad?
Yes, by Scotland Yard
jeanmonroe wrote:If it has, won't the McCanns and their friends, instantly become persons of interest?
They should be but Scotland Yard say they're not

OK.
Surely the most important 'persons of interest' would be the people that were ACTUALLY there at the EXACT time of the 'crime'?

That is ONLY the McCanns and their friends.+JW.

Could the man mentioned in the article be either JW or RM?

As we know the 'friends' of the McCanns tried to set RM up.
And who's to know when the McCanns could/will turn on JW?
After all, they have already said he was NOT where he said he was when chatting to GM.

there are many who could be charged with perverting course of justice imo. who is prime suspect ? new suspect uk or could Smith Sighting not  be ignored GM ?why fund seems to be more of protection fund than Search one:spin spin:
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Post by Liz Eagles 18.07.13 14:39

There are lots of people who want to hide the truth. I've been told there are even people paid to blog about things to obfuscate, incite people to libel and have forums closed down - it's a growing industry apparently. 

Thankfully, there are so many decent people on this forum who won't be silenced even when under pressure from duplicitous folk with an agenda.

Madeleine McCann deserves more.
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Post by Cristobell 18.07.13 14:42

He puts his nonsense blogs on twitter.  He reminds me of Lord Haw Haw, Germany calling etc.

Should also have said, even the pro's take little notice of him.
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