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Post by tigger on 21.07.12 6:09

@tuom wrote:
@worriedmum wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFpmLwS2FEE&feature=related



In this inteview with Dermot Murnaghan, I have always felt that Kate feels she is being unfairly lined up and singled out for criticiscm(1.02)




Has anyone else noticed in this video when GMC is talking about the night that MMC woke up , he says "one of the other twins" can someone listen to it again to confirm this please , is this just a slip of the tongue ? seems strange to me


' ..there was one night when Madeleine had come through.....' says Gerry. A curious way to describe a child waking up but a rational description of someone waking up despite heavy medication.

Re. the 'other twins' - I think Gerry is starting to say something like 'the other children' but changes midway to 'the twins'.

As for the rest of the performance - it's the same in other interviews. A rehearsed little conversation between G and K which is trotted out with additions such as 'she was very articulate ...... and then she moved on, you know......' As well as the imo idiotic phrase 'Why didn't you come last night when I cried?'
Not in a million years would a child that age phrase a question like that.
But the McCanns possibly never had conversations with their children, otherwise they'd know that.


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Post by Guest on 21.07.12 9:36

@tigger wrote:

' ..there was one night when Madeleine had come through.....' says Gerry. A curious way to describe a child waking up but a rational description of someone waking up despite heavy medication.

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Indeed. My dictionary gives many meaning of the verb "come through" [including survive & recover], but none of them meaning "waking up" ...
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Post by joyce1938 on 21.07.12 9:51

I would have thought that ,COMING through, could mean to come through to lounge from bedroom ,or similer?joyce1938
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Post by dentdelion on 21.07.12 9:52

I took the phrase 'come through' to mean that she had come through to the other bedroom. Was there a night when Madeleine slept in the parents room and one parent slept in children's room apart from the night of the quiz lady incident.? With two single beds pushed together, I do not imagine a threesome sleeping comfortably.
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Post by tigger on 21.07.12 10:55

@dentdelion wrote:I took the phrase 'come through' to mean that she had come through to the other bedroom. Was there a night when Madeleine slept in the parents room and one parent slept in children's room apart from the night of the quiz lady incident.? With two single beds pushed together, I do not imagine a threesome sleeping comfortably.

They weren't there, they could hardly know what she was doing in that time. In any case 'had come through' that one night doesn't make sense in terms of movement.

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Post by Guest on 21.07.12 11:01

@dentdelion wrote:I took the phrase 'come through' to mean that she had come through to the other bedroom. Was there a night when Madeleine slept in the parents room and one parent slept in children's room apart from the night of the quiz lady incident.? With two single beds pushed together, I do not imagine a threesome sleeping comfortably.

I always thought the beds were pushed together by the wailing McCs, kowtowing like Arabs by some report, and keeping the obliging PJ out of the room by their antics, when they had to get rid of GMs soiled and wet buttoned pants (witnessed by the Smith family)
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Post by Guest on 21.07.12 11:04

@Portia wrote:
@dentdelion wrote:I took the phrase 'come through' to mean that she had come through to the other bedroom. Was there a night when Madeleine slept in the parents room and one parent slept in children's room apart from the night of the quiz lady incident.? With two single beds pushed together, I do not imagine a threesome sleeping comfortably.

I always thought the beds were pushed together by the wailing McCs, kowtowing like Arabs by some report, and keeping the obliging PJ out of the room by their antics, when they had to get rid of GMs soiled and wet buttoned pants (witnessed by the Smith family)

Portia, where has the soiled and wet buttoned pants come from please, never seen that.
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Post by Guest on 21.07.12 12:44

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@Portia wrote:
@dentdelion wrote:I took the phrase 'come through' to mean that she had come through to the other bedroom. Was there a night when Madeleine slept in the parents room and one parent slept in children's room apart from the night of the quiz lady incident.? With two single beds pushed together, I do not imagine a threesome sleeping comfortably.

I always thought the beds were pushed together by the wailing McCs, kowtowing like Arabs by some report, and keeping the obliging PJ out of the room by their antics, when they had to get rid of GMs soiled and wet buttoned pants (witnessed by the Smith family)

Portia, where has the soiled and wet buttoned pants come from please, never seen that.

GM had already performed the kowtow act once before, in the Tapa's lounge (I think it was there, earlier) with the police just arriving.
GA in his book discussed the oddity of this whole exercise, one of his co-brainstormers venting it might have served the purpose of hiding some previous having been soiled of GM.s clothes.

KMs Birckenstocks were still visible at the foot of the bed, on the pictures. Apparently it did not matter what state they were in and where she had worn them. But it mattered to someone that GMs pants should disappear. Why would that be:

1. GM changes pants and hides them, in the middle of the night with a child gone missing;
2. The trousers clearly play an important role, else why take the trouble of hiding them when your world is coming apart?
3. Clearly they could tell something that should remain undiscovered;
4. They either show traces of something, or are damaged/torn;
5. Or they have been seen by someone who was not supposed to see them and who might recognise them later.

Putting two and two together: why hide a perfectly harmless pair of trousers? If not (4) it's (5).
And that woud mean the Smiths sighting probably does concern GM indeed.
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Post by Nina on 21.07.12 12:54

@Portia wrote:
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@Portia wrote:
@dentdelion wrote:I took the phrase 'come through' to mean that she had come through to the other bedroom. Was there a night when Madeleine slept in the parents room and one parent slept in children's room apart from the night of the quiz lady incident.? With two single beds pushed together, I do not imagine a threesome sleeping comfortably.

I always thought the beds were pushed together by the wailing McCs, kowtowing like Arabs by some report, and keeping the obliging PJ out of the room by their antics, when they had to get rid of GMs soiled and wet buttoned pants (witnessed by the Smith family)

Portia, where has the soiled and wet buttoned pants come from please, never seen that.

GM had already performed the kowtow act once before, in the Tapa's lounge (I think it was there, earlier) with the police just arriving.
GA in his book discussed the oddity of this whole exercise, one of his co-brainstormers venting it might have served the purpose of hiding some previous having been soiled of GM.s clothes.

KMs Birckenstocks were still visible at the foot of the bed, on the pictures. Apparently it did not matter what state they were in and where she had worn them. But it mattered to someone that GMs pants should disappear. Why would that be:

1. GM changes pants and hides them, in the middle of the night with a child gone missing;
2. The trousers clearly play an important role, else why take the trouble of hiding them when your world is coming apart?
3. Clearly they could tell something that should remain undiscovered;
4. They either show traces of something, or are damaged/torn;
5. Or they have been seen by someone who was not supposed to see them and who might recognise them later.

Putting two and two together: why hide a perfectly harmless pair of trousers? If not (4) it's (5).
And that woud mean the Smiths sighting probably does concern GM indeed.

He did wear the buttoned trousers later though when he was doing the flipchart presentation. Sorry still don't know how to bring a photo up duh If not the self same trousers then a second identical pair.

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Post by Nina on 21.07.12 13:14

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Post by tigger on 21.07.12 13:52

offtopic Perhaps we should start a trouser topic? It would perhaps be interesting to see if the Smiths had yet reported their sighting by the time the above photographs were taken. G might have felt safe to wear them if the sighting hadn't been reported by that time.

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@tigger wrote: Forensic linguistics -  - Page 11 3461872319 Perhaps we should start a trouser topic? It would perhaps be interesting to see if the Smiths had yet reported their sighting by the time the above photographs were taken. G might have felt safe to wear them if the sighting hadn't been reported by that time.

Quite a few topics on the Smith sighting tigger if you search the forum, this one has links on trousers etc...............

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t2891-let-s-unveil-the-smith-s-sighting?highlight=smith+sighting
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Post by Spaniel on 21.07.12 14:37

@tigger wrote: Forensic linguistics -  - Page 11 3461872319 Perhaps we should start a trouser topic? It would perhaps be interesting to see if the Smiths had yet reported their sighting by the time the above photographs were taken. G might have felt safe to wear them if the sighting hadn't been reported by that time.

They are so brazen, I don't think it would make a jot of difference. KM wore the scent of death trousers home on EasyJet.

It could either be the arrogance of being untouchable or the defiance of being innocent.
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Post by Spaniel on 21.07.12 14:53

Quote by Portia.

"KMs Birckenstocks were still visible at the foot of the bed, on the pictures. Apparently it did not matter what state they were in and where she had worn them. But it mattered to someone that GMs pants should disappear. Why would that be:"

Frankly Portia if I had a pair of button leg trousers on the bed and a pair of Birkenstop shoes on the floor when the police arrived, I wouldn't know which one to throw myself over in my Arab pose, as they are both so ugly.

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Post by bobbin on 21.07.12 15:18

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I'm continually baffled by HOW a FLIP CHART is available at a Family holiday centre in the Algarve in Portugal. Mr. Gerry looks very at ease with a flip chart, and this was pictured very early on after the disappearance, was it not.

Do all family holiday centres have a flip chart available for negligent parents to draw up a diagram to help the police go looking for their lost daughter, whilst they draw the links between the bits of information that the parents and friends have agreed purport the true version of events.
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Post by dentdelion on 21.07.12 15:28

Perhaps flipchart supplied by OC ... perhaps they host conference/meetings, rent out business facilities etc.
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Post by Nina on 21.07.12 15:36

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candyfloss wrote:Forensic linguistics -  - Page 11 Images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSCvYoCE08ezfuFETGgq4TdY2hjie2tl3aQDoiBQ_7y_oTowToh

I'm continually baffled by HOW a FLIP CHART is available at a Family holiday centre in the Algarve in Portugal. Mr. Gerry looks very at ease with a flip chart, and this was pictured very early on after the disappearance, was it not.

Do all family holiday centres have a flip chart available for negligent parents to draw up a diagram to help the police go looking for their lost daughter, whilst they draw the links between the bits of information that the parents and friends have agreed purport the true version of events.

Hi bobbin. And who the hec was he presenting to? Normal folk if wanting to get some things down on paper do just that, a bit of A4 at best and some notes and diagrams, but GM has to go into presentation mode, made a good picture though of his beige trousers.

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Post by Liz Eagles on 21.07.12 15:52

I may be a bit off topic here but it's so easy to have a thought and then not know where to find the topic so please Mods feel free to stick this in another thread.

Just looking at the content on the paper GM is writing on strikes me as a little odd. I've spent too much of my life watching people present on a large sheet of paper with a magic marker (grrrr) and mostly they either draw boxes or circles. I can't recall anyone draw a diamond shape (or something close to a masonic symbol).

It would be interesting to know if there is evidence of GM's previous (prior to Madeleine's disappearance) style of presentation on paper.
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Post by Nina on 21.07.12 15:57

aquila wrote:I may be a bit off topic here but it's so easy to have a thought and then not know where to find the topic so please Mods feel free to stick this in another thread.

Just looking at the content on the paper GM is writing on strikes me as a little odd. I've spent too much of my life watching people present on a large sheet of paper with a magic marker (grrrr) and mostly they either draw boxes or circles. I can't recall anyone draw a diamond shape (or something close to a masonic symbol).

It would be interesting to know if there is evidence of GM's previous (prior to Madeleine's disappearance) style of presentation on paper.

A very good point aquila, having made many presentations myself during my working life i have never used those symbols to highlight a point, nor have I ever seen it done before.
However it could be a method he always uses. Did he use a flipchart at the police do he was invited to or did he just speak?

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Post by Guest on 29.08.12 9:29


Statement Analysis blog is going to examine statements madein the case.....excellent news...so we can look forward to some good analysis:.

quote: As requested, we will seek to apply Statement Analysis to this case. Below is a general description of what happened from Wikipedia.com.


As the statements are located, analysis will be done, and eventually, some commentary. quote



http://seamusoriley.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/the-disappearance-of-madeleine-mccann.html

Think they will be kept busy as there have been many replies already with suggestions of where to find statements made..... thought it might be worth copying comments here:



27 comments:
Orgona said...
Peter,

you're not only great at doing statement analysis, but you can read my mind too. Or so it seems. Wink
Looking forward to it.

Orgona
Tue Aug 31, 03:16:00 PM EDT
Techmom said...
Hi Peter,

The website, themccannfiles.com, seems to have a great number of the parents' interviews archived. There are multiple interviews posted on each of the pages linked below.


The McCanns' First Interviews 25 May 2007

The McCanns' TV Appeals/Interviews

Kate's solo interviews

and
"Various Transcripts"


Looking forward to reading your analysis (what's the multiple for analysis? analysises? analysi? lol)

>^.^<
Techmom
Tue Aug 31, 04:08:00 PM EDT
Karri (Camsmom) said...
http://www.findmadeleine.com/home.html

This is the offical Maddie website. They write updates on it, however not sure its them or someone they have hired to do the website. Its very professional.
Tue Aug 31, 05:18:00 PM EDT
Anonymous said...
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/PJ/TRANSLATIONS.htm
Tue Aug 31, 05:57:00 PM EDT
Anonymous said...
I think Techmom means http://www.mccannfiles.com/
Tue Aug 31, 06:05:00 PM EDT
hobnob said...
http://www.mccannfiles.com/index.html has all the files including all mediastements interviews with kate and gerry and sundry tapas 7 pals, transcript of the panorama program (with that you have to watch as in the transcript they say tanner says they carried whereas in the actual programme tanner says "I carried" which got everyone immediate attention.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/

this site has all gerrys blog comment including amended ones though a couple were whoosh clucked before we realised to save them ( the one regarding him dumping a freezer in particular no one can prove he said it though many remember seeing him say it)
It does help to watch them in videos just to see how verbally inarticulate they become considering they are doctors with lots of big sighs tuts, you know's err's and ermms. They can barely string a sentence togeather and it is fun to see how statements change from day one with the smashed shutters door hanging off told to all their relatives to open shutters and curtains blowing and unlocked patio dooors as the abduction could't have happened else.
thanks again peter for giving this your time and consideration you have a lot of people awaiting your comments with great interest. all wnating justice for a little girl neglected by her parents
Tue Aug 31, 06:05:00 PM EDT
Blaze said...
This is great! Thank you Peter for looking at this case. I hope you'll have time to do one of Gerry's blogs or one of their interviews.
Tue Aug 31, 07:24:00 PM EDT
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LOL...:) Peter! tell your wife Thank You for me!
THANK YOU for the amanda knox, donna brock info...:)
am so behind.....:)
Tue Aug 31, 11:50:00 PM EDT
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Hello Peter, Although Wiki give a summary you have to read the files to understand the case and the discrepancy or to put it bluntly the lies involved.

To give you an example.

The SMITH sighting....would have been perfect for the McCanns, it would have cleared them.

Here we have a family who told Police they saw a man with Madeleine at the very moment it was claimed she was abducted...just before 10pm May 3rd. A child with bare feet wearing pink pyjamas.

NOW this is very important...Gerry McCanns blog 37 days after Madeleine disappeared June 11th 2007

Read this...


After returning from the beach we did the Irish version of Crimewatch-‘Crimecall’. There are a lot of Irish tourists in and around Praia da Luz and although the awareness of Madeleine’s disappearance in Ireland is extremely high, we want to ensure that everyone is aware of the appeal and we want the Irish public to come forward with photographs of people who they do not know who were in and around Praia da Luz in the 2 weeks leading up to the 3rd May. The address to upload photographs is: to www.madeleine.ceopupload.com . We have also asked for people to contact their local police if they have seen a man matching the description of the suspect carrying a child seen around the time of Madeleine’s abduction. He is 30-40 years, 1.70-1.80m (5’7”-11”), caucasian and was wearing a dark jacket, beige or mustard coloured trousers with dark shoes. No major news on the investigation front- we still believe it is just a single phone call away.


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UNKNOWN to Gerry Mccann the SMITHS had already returned to Portugal and given their witness statements in secret back in May.

VERY IMPORTANT the SMITH family are IRISH.


Martin Smith on seeing Gerry McCann arrive back in England and leaving the plane had the shock of his life...HE is 80% sure the man he saw that night was none other than GERRY MCCANN.

He phoned the police to give this information.

The SMITH sighting can be found in the POLICE FILES.
Wed Sep 01, 11:33:00 AM EDT
Anonymous said...
Seems strange that the mother screamed "They have taken her".

Who's "they"? Why didn't she say "Someone has taken her"??
Wed Sep 01, 08:38:00 PM EDT
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http://mccannexposure.wordpress.com/
Wed Sep 01, 09:31:00 PM EDT
Sugarbabe said...
It also seems strange when she said -They-ve taken her- WHO did she mean , she has TWO daughters and yet everyone knew immediately she meant Madeleine. The simulated abduction was planned from the moment Madeleine was found dead in the apartment.


Take a look also at the Gaspar statements. Two Doctors who were on intimate relations with the Mccanns.

This evidence was held back from the investigation by Leicestershire Police for SIX months...it has been suggested there was paedophilia in the group, after reading this statement I also have a BAD feeling about what happened to Madeleine.

This case NEEDS to be re/opened by the Portugues police and this group of DOCTORS made to speak up...There are SEVEN other children who may be at risk.

The Statement that could help the inquiry and crack this case wide open.


http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/PJ/KATERINA-PAYNE-INCIDENT.htm
Thu Sep 02, 12:39:00 AM EDT
Sugarbabe said...
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm


Peter, please read the SMITH sighting and understand this could have cleared the McCanns AND yet the Mccanns will not go near it.

Brian Kennedy the McCanns backer has meddled with witnesses , Mr Smith is one of them also Robert Murat, Paul Gordon, Jeremy Wilkins ALL have complained to the police about the pressure they have been under from TEAM MCCANN.

Complaints made to LEICESTSHIRE POLICE about Brian Kennedy and his contacting witnesses and yes their fear, have been made...People ARE afraid of the McCanns.

Leicestershire Police have REFUSED to investigate these complaints. They are not interested.


No one should under estimate how CLEVER Dr.Gerald McCann thinks he is.

The ONLY reason for McCann not to want to meet with Martin Smith and his family is because face to face Martin Smith may well say to McCann it was you I saw that night.

Would Gerry McCann himself walk through the streets with a sedated child dressed in Madeleines pyjamas to create a simulated abduction...he needed witnesses his word alone would not be enough.

Sound far fetched? then you do not know Gerry McCann.
Thu Sep 02, 12:53:00 AM EDT
Anonymous said...
Please be sure to watch Kate explaining the small window of opportunity in which to take Madeleine - the "whoosh cluck" video.

Another point to consider is how the Portuguese police begged Gerry not to mention Madeleine's eye defect to the public, as it could sign her death warrant. Gerry went ahead anyway, saying "We knew the abductor could do something to her eye but it was a good marketing ploy"

Last but certainly not least, Gerry's comment:“We want a big event to raise awareness that she is still missing...I think it would be later this year...it wouldn’t be a one-year anniversary, it will be sooner than that"

Apparently Gerry knew his daughter would still be missing in a year!
Thu Sep 02, 04:43:00 AM EDT
Anonymous said...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rQazjM-bCo


Video of Kate McCann and the window of opportunity
Thu Sep 02, 04:47:00 AM EDT
Anonymous said...
Gerry McCann has always denied sedating the children, something made him change his mind.

Fiona Payne one of the group said in her police witness statement, she found something ODD. Kate kept putting her hands in front of the twins faces to check if they were breathing the night May 3rd after Madeleines disappearance.


The McCanns had no idea the police files would be made available to the public. The Mccanns have read the files and must have been shocked to see Fiona had made this comment in her statement..

Later Gerry changes his mind and now suggests the twins WERE sedated but not by him but by the 'abductor'

As already mentioned Gerry thinks he is SO smart he can walk on water.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix6bKUnmOCM&feature=related
Thu Sep 02, 04:53:00 AM EDT
Anonymous said...
Anonymous, regarding your link to the video of Kate, explainig the 'window of opportunity' - when I checked it out it says "the video you have requested is no longer available" or words to that effect. Hopefully, it is available elsewhere.
Fri Sep 03, 05:43:00 AM EDT
evrli said...
this remionds me of the jon benet case...i believe one parent hurt the child, the other parent covered it up......

Mark Warner Ocean Club/Portugal website:

http://www.markwarner.co.uk/sun/portugal/ocean-club

shows a map/layout of the resort
Sat Sep 04, 06:24:00 PM EDT
Anonymous said...
http://mccannexposure.wordpress.com
/category/the-disappearance-of-
madeleine-mccann/60-reasons/


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Sun Sep 05, 07:03:00 PM EDT
Techmom said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Techmom means http://www.mccannfiles.com/


Yep! I goofed that one, but the links below it are good.
Thanks Anon! =)
Mon Sep 06, 01:23:00 AM EDT
Anonymous said...
As soon as the excellent blood and cadaver dogs alerted to a death in the McCanns holiday apartment the case should have been regarded as a murder investigation, and not brushed under the carpet as a possible accident.

Maybe then there would have been more cooperation from the McCanns and their friends on holiday with them. Who can believe that Kate McCann refused to answer over forty questions regarding the disappearance of her daughter! Also they refused to return for a reconstruction of that night.

More so it should be a murder investigation because of the statements made by the former friends of the McCanns who had previously been on a holiday with them. They had been so concerned when Madeleine went missing they had to go report their concern to the police about possible paedophile involvement because of what they had seen and heard on that former holiday.

The 'Gaspar statements' have so far been kept under wraps by the McCanns, yet they are available to read on the internet should anybody wish to do so.
Thu Sep 23, 11:09:00 AM EDT
Peggy from PA said...
As in the JonBenet Ramsey case the thing that seems so similar (to me) is the influential people who immediately circled the wagons around the parents. It was as if there was far more concern to protect the parents than there was for finding the truth about what happened.
Sun Nov 14, 10:36:00 AM EST
Janne said...
David Payne is a doctor who was on that famous holiday in Portugal. He is suspected of pedophilia from one friend of the McCann's. Friends name is Katherine.

Here is David Payne describing Madeleine: Extract from David Payne's rogatory statement to Leicestershire Police on 10 April 2008

24 April 2009

"Mmm..., errr... Madeleine's, errr... a very striking, errr... beautiful child, I'd almost - if I want a better phrase - call her doll-like, you know. She was very, you know, I think, you know, very unique looking child, errr...

she'd got very pretty, you know, blonde hair, errr... in a bob, she was quite a petite, errr... child and, you know, she was very bubbly, very, errr... you know, she was a very good child to, to interact with.

She was very bright, you could have a lot of fun with Madeleine, errr... and, you know, she, she was, you know, Kate and Gerry's, you know, pride and joy. They'd had a lot of trouble conceiving, you know, with IVF and everything and, you know, Madeleine was their miracle.

She was obviously very unique with the fact that she'd got the, you know, the iris defect, errr... but, you know, she was certainly a happy go lucky child, you know, she was, she would interact with the other children very well, as I said on the other, earlier recording, you know, she played very happily with Lily and, you know, indeed the other children. She was, you know, very... she is a very beautiful child and good fun."

(...)

"You know, I, you know, a fact I've come across already you know, she was a... she's a very bright child, you know, she wouldn't be the kind of mischievous child who, you know, and just try and get out of the flat and, you know, get up to mischief and that, you know, there's fun in all children but she certainly wasn't that kind of child. She was very bright."

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id236.html

Like I have always said: Gerry did it. Maybe with some help.
Mon Jan 17, 12:02:00 PM EST
Seamus O Riley said...
Jann,

thanks for the post.

I haven't studied this case and I know that people feel passionate about it.

My free time for reading is limited and I am just beginning the Knox case, but will eventually get to this one, too.

thanks,

Peter
Mon Jan 17, 01:51:00 PM EST
Anonymous said...
Hi Peter

I think with their TV interviews they stick to the script they´ve worked out and like the Knox´s won´t be interviewed by anyone with tough questions. They´ll accept the ´neglect´ questions cos that´s their alibi. However their statements to the police and the statements of their friends and family have been contradictory. Gerry has made some statements that seem to have embedded confessions in them, notoriously the challenge to the Portugues police ´Prove I killed her´. On another occasion he said ´it was terrible when we found her´ I think he then managed to add ´missing´! Surely the statement should be it was terrible when we couldn´t find her!I´ve always found it strange how the ´guilt´ and being unable to sleep well only lasted a couple of days. They don´t ever really answer the questions put to them, remind me of politicians!

There´s no doubt that some of their friends lied and that they were all in the appartment for more than an hour before police were called. Some of that time was spent writing a list of who checked the children at what time (alibi building or just defending themselves from allegations of neglect?)- on the back ripped off of one of Madeleine´s books. I think they knew she wasn´t coming back, ugh. I believe the friends were involved in the cover up and inventing a sighting of the ´abductor´ 24 hours later. There´s no evidence she was abducted.

Why would they all cover up a murder or an accidental death? And why was Gordon Brown involved in pressuring the Portugese authorities to have the case dropped? Since when does the prime minister involve himself with missing children - and send a provate plane to get the parents safely home so they don´t get arrested?

The David Payne statement is all past tense.
Sat Jan 22, 11:48:00 PM EST
Peggy from PA said...
Source: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/m....f-1226008595211
"Missing Madeleine McCann in US: investigator
From: Herald Sun
February 19, 2011 1:58PM

Madeleine McCann

Missing ... British toddler Madeleine McCann. Source: The Daily Telegraph

THE parents of missing Madeleine McCann have welcomed new information that suggests their daughter may be in the United States. "

This morning's news was bitter/sweet. No matter what they find, and hopefully it will be Madeleine, her little life has been impacted by a, in my view, selfish decision by her parents.
Sat Feb 19, 09:51:00 AM EST
Rachael said...
Hi Peter,

Anon at 11:48 said:

"On another occasion he said ´it was terrible when we found her´ I think he then managed to add ´missing!'"

This made me wonder... if you received this, transcribed without a pause, to read "it was terrible when we found her missing", or "it was terrible, when we found her missing"... would you still flag it as sensitive, or deceptive, since one cannot find what they are missing?

It also made me wonder how often you refer to video or audio, when available to see if there is verbal punctuation that didn't translate. Do you take that into account?

Thank you in advance, and thank you for such a neat blog!
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There's something bizarre here. The date is 28 august 2012, but comments are dated till a year back .... I remember that Peter wanted to do analysis last year and did one IIRC, but then dropped it for other, closer to home cases ...
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Post by tigger on 29.08.12 12:04

Châtelaine wrote:There's something bizarre here. The date is 28 august 2012, but comments are dated till a year back .... I remember that Peter wanted to do analysis last year and did one IIRC, but then dropped it for other, closer to home cases ...

If Peter is Seamusoriley he's more than welcome to plunder this topic, it will save him quite some time. As he said, the McCannfiles, particularly Dr. Roberts' articles are very useful in this respect.

Jolly interesting comments! We live in hope. Especially the poster who stresses 'how clever Gerry McCann thinks he is' - totally agree, Delboy isn't in it.

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Filched this from the same poster on MM whose insight started this topic in the first place:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjDAK2kH3yM&feature=player_embedded#!


[....] at 2.14 Gerry makes the point that 'the searches were directed at finding a missing body' [...]

He keeps using this expression.... a 'missing body'. But why would he include the word 'missing'? Surely he means the searches were directed at finding 'a body' and that the failure of the searchers to do so offered them some reassurance. But the fact that he includes that the body being searched for was 'missing' suggests that the body had gone missing from where it should have been. If M had died in 5a, then one would expect her body to be found there and no search would be required. However, if M didn't die in 5a, her body wouldn't be a 'missing' body, it would be a body. The only way the word 'missing' could be construed as innocent in this context, would be if he'd said 'the body of our missing child' but he didn't and he never does. How does G know that if there's a body, it's a 'missing' one? Only if he knows there was a body in the first place.

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