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Post by Pascal on 19.03.10 13:59

Tony, sorry to add to the hassle, but could you tell me how Majic got hold of Ambersuz's business address? She claims that you were the only person to know of it.

thanks

PS I can't be doing with hacks/journos or those pretending to be, who, for their own agenda set out to cause upset on the already rocky fora.

I feel like banging a lot of heads together today, I really do.
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Post by Mgunnill on 19.03.10 15:39

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@ufercoffy wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:
@ufercoffy wrote:Under whose instructions were you working...erm, Jo?

http://justathoughtyouknow.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=chat&action=display&thread=354&page=2
Someone who pays good money for Mr Gunnill/Peter Tarwin/Michael Sangerte/Jason Peters/'petert'/JoMc/ to obey instructions.

Ker-ching!

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You're so naughty Mr B.

Did you hear anything from Carter Ruck after erm...Jo packed up his book and sent it by courier to the *cough* third party?
Yes, very quickly...they wrote to me on 5 February 2010, very swiftly indeed after Mike Gunnill travelled to London to the offices of Carter-Ruck, all expenses paid, and proudly handed them a copy of that dreaded book, "What Really Happened to Madeleine McCann? - 60 Reasons Which Suggest that she was not abducted".

The Carter-Ruck letter (which they marked 'Strictly Private and Confidential', claimed I was still selling the book. It also made demands about the contents of our website.

Those parts of my reply to Carter-Ruck dated 8 February 2010 that dealt with the issue of their false claim that I am still selling the book are reproduced verbatim below:

From: Anthony Bennett M.A. 66 Chippingfield
Tel: 01279 635789 HARLOW
Essex
CM17 ODJ
e-mail: ajsbennett@btinternet.com



Carter-Ruck Monday 8 February 2010
Solicitors
6 St Andrew Street
LONDON
EC4 3AE

Your Ref: IH/DXM/13837.5

THIS LETTER IS NOT CONFIDENTIAL

Dear Sirs

For the attention of Isabel Hudson

re: Dr Gerald and Dr Kate McCann - Your Letter of 5 February 2010

I am in receipt of your letter of 5 February.

So far as the fourth paragraph of your letter is concerned, so far as I am aware on the new Madeleine Foundation website there is no promotion of the ‘60 Reasons’ book whatsoever. There we have made clear statements that it is no longer available for sale.

I have myself on a few occasions directed people to websites where ‘60 Reasons’ is available to read on the internet. I emphasise once again that I have not in any way helped or encouraged these websites to reproduce the booklet. So far as the ‘Wikileaks’ site is concerned, which is where I directed some people, my understanding is that it has been closed until further notice due to lack of funds or for some other reason. The ‘60 Reasons’ booklet is therefore no longer available to read on that site.

I did not regard referring people to where they could read ‘60 Reasons’ as a breach of my undertakings in respect of the selling and distribution of physical copies, and I don’t think it is. However, in the light of your claim that merely to refer people to such a site ‘constitutes further publication of the libels in the booklet’, I will no longer do so and I will make sure that The Madeleine Foundation website does not do so either.

I was not aware either that a court could ‘deem this as having participated in the publication of the libels in the booklet’. I am further willing to endeavour to contact any website that may have reproduced ‘60 Reasons’ (in all cases without my consent I may add) and ask them to remove it from their sites forthwith.

You refer in the same paragraph to ‘at least one copy of the booklet’ being sold. On 13 January this year, a Mr Mike Gunnill, a freelance photojournalist who is in contact with you, attempted to buy a booklet using the false name of Michael Sangerte, and purporting to live in ‘Reading, Berkshire’. He also claimed to be willing to pay ‘a good price’ for it. He followed up this deception by insisting that he required a hard copy of it as he believed it would become ‘an important historical document’.

At this stage I suspected that his was not a genuine customer and accordingly a booklet was sold to him. Believing that it would yield me useful information, a booklet was indeed sent to him last week.

And, as I predicted, it has yielded useful information, namely that Mike Gunnill uses at least three aliases - Peter Tarwin, Jason Peters and now Michael Sangerte - and that he posts as ‘petert’ on a forum known a ‘Just A Thought You Know’, where numerous actionable libels of me are continually posted. It is my belief that in this respect Mr Gunnill may have been acting as your agent.

The ‘60 Reasons’ booklet is not for sale and below I reproduce a specimen recent exchange of correspondence I have had with Nielsen BookNet and Gardners books, who have previously placed orders for ’60 Reasons’:

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24 January Nielsen Bookdata to Anthony Bennett

BookNet Web Online Order Collection Service for publisher/distributors - email notification

The Madeleine Foundation (00215736)
66 Chippingfield
Harlow
Essex
CM17 0DJ

Dear Distributor

You have 1 order lines awaiting collection. Please click here: http://bookorders.nielsenbooknet.com/maillogin.do?1sjpvp0d849gj001 to access and acknowledge these orders.

Or log on to http://bookorders.nielsenbooknet.com/ using your Distributor Key, User ID and Password.

Please do not respond to this email. If you have any queries about this service, then please contact our Help Desk:

Our UK based Help Desk is open Monday to Friday, 08.30-17.30
t: +44 (0)1483 712260 / f: +44 (0)1483 712261
e: help.book@nielsen.com

**************
26 January Anthony Bennett to Nielesn Bookdata and Gardners Books

From: ANTHONY BENNETT [mailto@btinternet.com]
Sent: 26 January 2010 07:56
To: help.book@nielsen.com; Lynda Teixeira; Martin Watson
Subject: What really happened to Madeleine McCann 978-0-9507954-7-8

Dear Sirs

We have received the following request from Gardners Books:

[details as above]

This is to inform you that our booklet is currently not in circulation.

Following action by Gerry and Kate McCann via their lawyers, an undertaking has been given by myself as the author not to sell or distribute the book and to destroy all existing copies in the possession or control of myself. Unless circumstances change, this booklet will be unavailable until further notice.

Yours faithfully

Anthony Bennett 01279 635789

**************
27 January Gardners Books to Anthony Bennett

Dear Anthony,

I have noted this thank you, and cancelled this order on our system.

I have also taken out of the ordering route until further notice.

Regards

Jim Starnes, Buying Services Supervisor, Gardners Books, 01323 525631

========================================================

So far as the fifth paragraph of your letter is concerned, we are surprised that your clients’...


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-Yes, very quickly...they wrote to me on 5 February 2010, very swiftly indeed after Mike Gunnill travelled to London to the offices of Carter-Ruck, all expenses paid, and proudly handed them a copy of that dreaded book, "What Really Happened to Madeleine McCann? - 60 Reasons Which Suggest that she was not abducted".-

.........and you can prove the above statement? No I didn't think so!
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Post by aiyoyo on 19.03.10 15:50

Pascal,
What made you think it came from TB?
I had thought that's majic speciality ie, outing people.
Bear in mind he's working under instructions. Also he claimed to have friends working alongside him, plenty lackies to dig things up for him.
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Post by Tony Bennett on 19.03.10 15:57

@Pascal wrote:Tony, sorry to add to the hassle, but could you tell me how Majic got hold of Ambersuz's business address? She claims that you were the only person to know of it. Thanks.
You will have to ask 'Majic' how he got it, if he has got it, that is.

He did contact me in November last year about some disgraceful action of Ms Menez, here is part of his letter:

Mr Bennett,

As you will recall I spoke to you Thursday regarding an incident on the MIssing Madeleine forum where Susan had posted up the Facebook details of a child under 18 including their pictures. You asked for proof that this had taken place and also proof of the sexual swear words used to describe the child.

Susan has now posted these details again, minus the sexual references; however my concern is that she has posted the details of a child under eighteen on an adult website, I have been advised by the UK Justice Ministry that there is an absolute prohibition of such activities taking place. Susan is also indicating that the images are pornographic, or contain link to pornographic websites, which they do not.

Both my colleagues and I are outraged by this latest stunt and have already began contacting various web foundation monitoring organisations and [names snipped for confidentiality] have reported this, as I have to the internet crimes division.

There is libellous content about yourself on this site which I am sure you are aware of, for your review please go to :

http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/tony-bennett-fraudster-friends-f84/exposing-the-trolls-t5393.htm

Here you will find the post made by Susan regarding... [REST SNIPPED FOR REASONS OF CONFIDENTIALITY]
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Post by Tony Bennett on 19.03.10 16:01

@Mgunnill wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:
@ufercoffy wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:
@ufercoffy wrote:Under whose instructions were you working...erm, Jo?
Someone who pays good money for Mr Gunnill/Peter Tarwin/Michael Sangerte/Jason Peters/'petert'/JoMc/ to obey instructions.

Ker-ching!

You're so naughty Mr B.

Did you hear anything from Carter Ruck after erm...Jo packed up his book and sent it by courier to the *cough* third party?
Yes, very quickly...they wrote to me on 5 February 2010, very swiftly indeed after Mike Gunnill travelled to London to the offices of Carter-Ruck, all expenses paid, and proudly handed them a copy of that dreaded book, "What Really Happened to Madeleine McCann? - 60 Reasons Which Suggest that she was not abducted".

- Yes, very quickly...they wrote to me on 5 February 2010, very swiftly indeed after Mike Gunnill travelled to London to the offices of Carter-Ruck, all expenses paid, and proudly handed them a copy of that dreaded book, "What Really Happened to Madeleine McCann? - 60 Reasons Which Suggest that she was not abducted".

...and you can prove the above statement? No I didn't think so!
It's what's called, in the trade, flying a kite, Mike, Peter, Jason, Michael, petert, JoMc, mgunnilll.

Pretty close, though, eh?
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Post by ufercoffy on 19.03.10 16:01

@Mgunnill wrote:Dear Dick: are you starting to forget things again? It has been mentioned before, as you know- some by yourself or perhaps you forgot that as well! Magic onphone

Erm...Jo certainly seems to be in cahoots with Majic Magic.

Just wish he would investigate Madeleine's disappearance. A question for Mike Gunnill, alias \'petert\' on JATYK, alias Peter Tarwin, alias Jason Peters - Page 5 362910 Guess he gets paid more by the CR's though for investigating forum posters.

Hey, Jo, what did you think of Stevo's interview about his new book yesterday?
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Post by Pascal on 19.03.10 16:56

@aiyoyo wrote:Pascal,
What made you think it came from TB?
I had thought that's majic speciality ie, outing people.
Bear in mind he's working under instructions. Also he claimed to have friends working alongside him, plenty lackies to dig things up for him.

Ambersuz is of the firm belief that Tony gave Majic her business address. Majic is denying it, but Ambersuz was definite that she gave the address to Tony and nobody else.

I suppose he or one of his god heads could have found out. But he's proven that he is not that clever and like Muratfan tends to get himself in a bit of a knock kneed twist. God help whoever it is who is financing Majic, because at this rate they won't have enough left in the pot for their pension.

I just wanted Tony to confirm or deny for my own peace of mind. See, I'm getting a bit hacked off with the games and agendas.
I spend a lot of time on the fora because I am interested in the case. I've made some good friends but equally come across some of the biggest knob heads on the planet. I might just start getting more choosy where I hang out as the continual kindergarten games are doing my swede in.

There are very many who are obsessive, some that cause trouble for the hell of it and those who have an agenda. I think it needs unravelling.
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Post by Pascal on 19.03.10 17:02

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Pascal wrote:Tony, sorry to add to the hassle, but could you tell me how Majic got hold of Ambersuz's business address? She claims that you were the only person to know of it. Thanks.
You will have to ask 'Majic' how he got it, if he has got it, that is.

He did contact me in November last year about some disgraceful action of Ms Menez, here is part of his letter:

Mr Bennett,

As you will recall I spoke to you Thursday regarding an incident on the MIssing Madeleine forum where Susan had posted up the Facebook details of a child under 18 including their pictures. You asked for proof that this had taken place and also proof of the sexual swear words used to describe the child.

Susan has now posted these details again, minus the sexual references; however my concern is that she has posted the details of a child under eighteen on an adult website, I have been advised by the UK Justice Ministry that there is an absolute prohibition of such activities taking place. Susan is also indicating that the images are pornographic, or contain link to pornographic websites, which they do not.

Both my colleagues and I are outraged by this latest stunt and have already began contacting various web foundation monitoring organisations and [names snipped for confidentiality] have reported this, as I have to the internet crimes division.

There is libellous content about yourself on this site which I am sure you are aware of, for your review please go to :

http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/tony-bennett-fraudster-friends-f84/exposing-the-trolls-t5393.htm

Here you will find the post made by Susan regarding... [REST SNIPPED FOR REASONS OF CONFIDENTIALITY]

Ok Tony, see that's another issue isn't it? Majic writes to you about Ambersuz and you pass judgement on her 'disgraceful' actions. Majic posted her business details up on his website and she is adament that those details came from you.

I don't think you are in any position to make judgements on other people Tony. You let yourself down in doing so.


ETA Why do you take anything Majic says with anything other than a pinch of salt? His main objective was to break up the fora. He has had a hand in doing so. I find it odd that you should even keep his correspondence, let alone post it up at will.

Are you in this for Madeleine? Are you really? You don't seem too bothered that the fora are at each others throats.

This is a missing child we're talking about Tony. You know, I want to be wrong about you.
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Post by Tony Bennett on 19.03.10 17:18

@Pascal wrote:I just wanted Tony to confirm or deny for my own peace of mind. See, I'm getting a bit hacked off with the games and agendas.
Might I respectfully suggest, in terms of people playing games and with agendas, that you place three people very firmly under your miscroscope: Susan Menez, Debbie Butler and Brenda Ryan.

Whatever else you may say about me, and I've never proclaimed to be perfect, I have always been crystal clear and transparent about who I am and what my agenda is, insofar as the mystery of why Madeleine McCann disappeared is concerned. The Madeleine Foundation and its activities are open and transparent, even though many will not agree with what we stand for and what we do.

Why Menez is running an internet vilification campaign against me, why Butler made a series of utterly false allegations against me, and why Ryan did some of the things she did as owner/manager of 3As - these are very much to do with games and agenda.

That's quite besides all the nefarious agendas and games of the 'pros', of course.
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Post by ufercoffy on 19.03.10 17:31

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Pascal wrote:I just wanted Tony to confirm or deny for my own peace of mind. See, I'm getting a bit hacked off with the games and agendas.
Might I respectfully suggest, in terms of people playing games and with agendas, that you place three people very firmly under your miscroscope: Susan Menez, Debbie Butler and Brenda Ryan.

Whatever else you may say about me, and I've never proclaimed to be perfect, I have always been crystal clear and transparent about who I am and what my agenda is, insofar as the mystery of why Madeleine McCann disappeared is concerned. The Madeleine Foundation and its activities are open and transparent, even though many will not agree with what we stand for and what we do.

Why Menez is running an internet vilification campaign against me, why Butler made a series of utterly false allegations against me, and why Ryan did some of the things she did as owner/manager of 3As - these are very much to do with games and agenda.

That's quite besides all the nefarious agendas and games of the 'pros', of course.

There's that 'campaign' word again that... erm, Jo has referred to. Of course he's quite pally with Susan and Deborah. Early days in the campaign yet, though, he says.
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Post by Pascal on 19.03.10 17:35

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Pascal wrote:I just wanted Tony to confirm or deny for my own peace of mind. See, I'm getting a bit hacked off with the games and agendas.
Might I respectfully suggest, in terms of people playing games and with agendas, that you place three people very firmly under your miscroscope: Susan Menez, Debbie Butler and Brenda Ryan.


so you and Majic do have a common enemy then?

Whatever else you may say about me, and I've never proclaimed to be perfect, I have always been crystal clear and transparent about who I am and what my agenda is, insofar as the mystery of why Madeleine McCann disappeared is concerned. The Madeleine Foundation and its activities are open and transparent, even though many will not agree with what we stand for and what we do.

first off Tony, I've said nothing about you or anybody else. I've made it plain that I disagree with your actions - choosing to see the good before the bad in everyone. After all who am I to JUDGE people?

Why Menez is running an internet vilification campaign against me, why Butler made a series of utterly false allegations against me, and why Ryan did some of the things she did as owner/manager of 3As - these are very much to do with games and agenda.

In all honestly, I haven't seen a hate campaign toward you by Ambersuz or Bren. I think you may be over egging the pudding there with that one. I've seen some unpleasant comments, but equally the same could be applied to yourself. I agree there have been some wholly unacceptable insults by Vee8 and Bonnybonkers - but you're a big lad Tony, you know your actions will be open to criticism and attack. you either grow a skin and get on with it or you bleat like a lamb and continually post up exchanges.

That's quite besides all the nefarious agendas and games of the 'pros', of course.

Yes, I have come across some horrible pro's who think nothing of ripping someone apart for the sake of it. Those that call people vicious names and come over all right on about the 'knuckle draggers' who reside in the cesspits. I've formed the conclusion that most of them are not worth the effort of posting with.

That doesn't explain to me why you give Majic the time of day. Are you in collusion with him? Is it because you wouldn't mind him annihilating the other fora?

All a bit juvenile isn't it?
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Post by Laffin Assasin on 19.03.10 17:38

I'd like to know who "Magic" got my mobile number off ?
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Post by Pascal on 19.03.10 17:40

@ufercoffy wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Pascal wrote:I just wanted Tony to confirm or deny for my own peace of mind. See, I'm getting a bit hacked off with the games and agendas.
Might I respectfully suggest, in terms of people playing games and with agendas, that you place three people very firmly under your miscroscope: Susan Menez, Debbie Butler and Brenda Ryan.

Whatever else you may say about me, and I've never proclaimed to be perfect, I have always been crystal clear and transparent about who I am and what my agenda is, insofar as the mystery of why Madeleine McCann disappeared is concerned. The Madeleine Foundation and its activities are open and transparent, even though many will not agree with what we stand for and what we do.

Why Menez is running an internet vilification campaign against me, why Butler made a series of utterly false allegations against me, and why Ryan did some of the things she did as owner/manager of 3As - these are very much to do with games and agenda.

That's quite besides all the nefarious agendas and games of the 'pros', of course.

There's that 'campaign' word again that... erm, Jo has referred to. Of course he's quite pally with Susan and Deborah. Early days in the campaign yet, though, he says.

Uffer for the sake of my sanity; are you suggesting that Amber and DB are in cohorts with Majic? Who the F is Jo please?
One of us is barking at the wrong dog and I think for all our sakes we should know. Ta.
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Post by Tony Bennett on 19.03.10 17:42

@Pascal wrote:Ok Tony, see that's another issue isn't it? Majic writes to you about Ambersuz and you pass judgement on her 'disgraceful' actions.

Is this true, or is it not true: "Susan had posted up the Facebook details of a child under 18 including their pictures..."

Majic posted her business details up on his website and she is adamant that those details came from you.

I didn't know Majic had done that, and if so, he can no doubt account for how he obtained that information.

I don't think you are in any position to make judgements on other people Tony. You let yourself down in doing so.

Noted

ETA Why do you take anything Majic says with anything other than a pinch of salt?

Who says I don't take what he says with more than a pinch of salt? Sometimes he's right about things; sometimes he's wrong.

His main objective was to break up the fora. He has had a hand in doing so.

I am not aware of that at all and that is a major accusation to make agaisnt him. Please provide details of this accusation so that we all on here can make a valid judgment on how true your statements are.

I find it odd that you should even keep his correspondence, let alone post it up at will.

I rarely have time to delete messages. Simple as. I have all Menez's messages too before the great 180-degree turn around of her and Ms Butler.

Are you in this for Madeleine? Are you really? You don't seem too bothered that the fora are at each other's throats.

What?? And if the fora are at each other's throats, what has that got to do with either me or Majic? I post happily wherever people are seriously discussing what really happened to Madeleine, as my track record shows, it's plain for anyone to see. I support any place that is genuinely discussing what happened to Madeleine.

This is a missing child we're talking about Tony. You know, I want to be wrong about you.

Yes, a missing child. I was so concerned at the way she and the twins were left six nights in a row by her parents that I tried to get the parents prosecuted for child neglect. The Portuguese Police didn't do it. The British Police and British Social Services didn't do it either. In fact no-one else did it. And in return for doing that, I was massively criticised by many for being 'heartless', 'insensitive', 'scum' and worse. Then I wrote a book, because to me and many others, the abduction story didn't seem to stand up. Moreover, I have to choose my words very carefully at this point because the words in that book caused me to be taken almost to the door of the High Court before I agreed to sign certain binding undertakings. I've never made a penny out of the name Madeleine, in fact I'm out of pocket - and on top of that have suffered the persistent abuse from Menez, Butler and many others on the 'MM' forum falsely claiming that The Madeleine Foundation is 'another moneymaking scam' of mine.

Pray, Pascal, that we will have the real truth about what happend to Madeleine sooner rarther than later. Then perhaps these senseless forum wars, games and agendas will be behind us all.
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Post by ufercoffy on 19.03.10 17:48

@Pascal wrote:
@ufercoffy wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Pascal wrote:I just wanted Tony to confirm or deny for my own peace of mind. See, I'm getting a bit hacked off with the games and agendas.
Might I respectfully suggest, in terms of people playing games and with agendas, that you place three people very firmly under your miscroscope: Susan Menez, Debbie Butler and Brenda Ryan.

Whatever else you may say about me, and I've never proclaimed to be perfect, I have always been crystal clear and transparent about who I am and what my agenda is, insofar as the mystery of why Madeleine McCann disappeared is concerned. The Madeleine Foundation and its activities are open and transparent, even though many will not agree with what we stand for and what we do.

Why Menez is running an internet vilification campaign against me, why Butler made a series of utterly false allegations against me, and why Ryan did some of the things she did as owner/manager of 3As - these are very much to do with games and agenda.

That's quite besides all the nefarious agendas and games of the 'pros', of course.

There's that 'campaign' word again that... erm, Jo has referred to. Of course he's quite pally with Susan and Deborah. Early days in the campaign yet, though, he says.

Uffer for the sake of my sanity; are you suggesting that Amber and DB are in cohorts with Majic? Who the F is Jo please?
One of us is barking at the wrong dog and I think for all our sakes we should know. Ta.

Not Amber and DB. Jo A question for Mike Gunnill, alias \'petert\' on JATYK, alias Peter Tarwin, alias Jason Peters - Page 5 867230 McGunnill. Do keep up.
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Post by Laffin Assasin on 19.03.10 17:49

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Pascal wrote:Ok Tony, see that's another issue isn't it? Majic writes to you about Ambersuz and you pass judgement on her 'disgraceful' actions.

Is this true, or is it not true: "Susan had posted up the Facebook details of a child under 18 including their pictures..."

Majic posted her business details up on his website and she is adamant that those details came from you.

I didn't know Majic had done that, and if so, he can no doubt account for how he obtained that information.

I don't think you are in any position to make judgements on other people Tony. You let yourself down in doing so.

Noted

ETA Why do you take anything Majic says with anything other than a pinch of salt?

Who says I don't take what he says with more than a pinch of salt? Sometimes he's right about things; sometimes he's wrong.

His main objective was to break up the fora. He has had a hand in doing so.

I am not aware of that at all and that is a major accusation to make agaisnt him. Please provide details of this accusation so that we all on here can make a valid judgment on how true your statements are.

I find it odd that you should even keep his correspondence, let alone post it up at will.

I rarely have time to delete messages. Simple as. I have all Menez's messages too before the great 180-degree turn around of her and Ms Butler.

Are you in this for Madeleine? Are you really? You don't seem too bothered that the fora are at each other's throats.

What?? And if the fora are at each other's throats, what has that got to do with either me or Majic? I post happily wherever people are seriously discussing what really happened to Madeleine, as my track record shows, it's plain for anyone to see. I support any place that is genuinely discussing what happened to Madeleine.

This is a missing child we're talking about Tony. You know, I want to be wrong about you.

Yes, a missing child. I was so concerned at the way she and the twins were left six nights in a row by her parents that I tried to get the parents prosecuted for child neglect. The Portuguese Police didn't do it. The British Police and British Social Services didn't do it either. In fact no-one else did it. And in return for doing that, I was massively criticised by many for being 'heartless', 'insensitive', 'scum' and worse. Then I wrote a book, because to me and many others, the abduction story didn't seem to stand up. Moreover, I have to choose my words very carefully at this point because the words in that book caused me to be taken almost to the door of the High Court before I agreed to sign certain binding undertakings. I've never made a penny out of the name Madeleine, in fact I'm out of pocket - and on top of that have suffered the persistent abuse from Menez, Butler and many others on the 'MM' forum falsely claiming that The Madeleine Foundation is 'another moneymaking scam' of mine.

Pray, Pascal, that we will have the real truth about what happend to Madeleine sooner rarther than later. Then perhaps these senseless forum wars, games and agendas will be behind us all.

Tony, Majic is mostly wrong !

Can you recall went the death threats you recieved were published in one of the Portuguse papers, I sent you the "threat" I'd recieved, that came from "Majic or one of his accomplices" he tried to blame his mate Clarky aka Andrew Waite of Apiphiny fame.
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Post by ufercoffy on 19.03.10 17:54

@Pascal wrote:Ok Tony, see that's another issue isn't it? Majic writes to you about Ambersuz and you pass judgement on her 'disgraceful' actions.

Is this true, or is it not true: "Susan had posted up the Facebook details of a child under 18 including their pictures..."

Majic posted her business details up on his website and she is adamant that those details came from you.

I didn't know Majic had done that, and if so, he can no doubt account for how he obtained that information.

Muratfan has posted up Amber's details many times. Pascal, why not ask him/her/it where it all came from?
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Post by Pascal on 19.03.10 17:55

I think we are getting nearer the truth Tony.

You know full well what Majics intentions are. At one point I believed in him too. 3A had become a cesspit, with distorted images of a missing child and her family posted up for ridicule. But it hasn't stopped there has it? He has now installed himself as the interfora police.

I have no idea what Ambersuz posted up. I only know that like you she has been the subject of vile comments from the same quarters as you. It's still goes on by the JATYK rabble who use Bonny as their voicebox.

The only way to make it all stop, it seems is to jump ship. That is what some have chosen to do. To what end I wonder. The most hard faced anti's waving 'pro' flags - not because they have changed their minds and seen the light, oh no, they want REVENGE. Hell, even Blondie, the anti stalwart and mascot for general ridicule on the pro fora is now a full paid up member of Pink is Us brigade.

FFS this is so tiresome.
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Post by Pascal on 19.03.10 17:56

@ufercoffy wrote:
@Pascal wrote:Ok Tony, see that's another issue isn't it? Majic writes to you about Ambersuz and you pass judgement on her 'disgraceful' actions.

Is this true, or is it not true: "Susan had posted up the Facebook details of a child under 18 including their pictures..."

Majic posted her business details up on his website and she is adamant that those details came from you.

I didn't know Majic had done that, and if so, he can no doubt account for how he obtained that information.

Muratfan has posted up Amber's details many times. Pascal, why not ask him/her/it where it all came from?

and where did he get it from?
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Post by Tony Bennett on 19.03.10 17:58

@Pascal wrote:Uffer for the sake of my sanity; are you suggesting that Amber and DB are in cohorts with Majic? Who the F is Jo please? One of us is barking at the wrong dog and I think for all our sakes we should know. Ta.
If I may but in, 'Uffer' was referring to Mike Gunnill, not Majic, in his last post, as I'm sure s/he will clarify. For information, it is generally understood that 'Jo' is one of Mike Gunnill's many aliases.

Here, for information, is a list of some of them:

1. Mike Gunnill - real name. or is it??

2. mgunnill - current username on here - if it is him?

3. Peter Tarwin - when writing to The Madeleine Foundation with disinformation

4. Jason Peters - ditto

5. Michael Sangerte - when trying to buy a book from me under orders from Carter-Ruck

6. petert - when posting with his mates 'muratfan', 'Majic' and others on bonnybraes and MsMarbles' forum, JATYK

7. JoMc or 'Jo' for short on here.

'Uffer' was referring to strange alliances between Menez, Butler and Gunnill.

It must be clearly remembered at all times here that Butler's separation from The Madeleine Foundation came only after she admitted to one long late-night conversation with Clarence Mitchell - and from reading between the lines, quite a few others. As I've posted elsewhere, she has openly admitted to long talks with Adrian Upshon ('Deuce') and 'sabot' among other pros.

It is also relevant that during September two other things happened; Brenda Ryan became an active contributor and close to Menez, and Brenda Ryan, who lives very close to Butler, began having many conversations with each other. I advised Butler against this at the time. [By the way, one of Butler's admitted talents is one of mimicry, she would give Rory Bremner a run for his money. After having spoken a time or two to Ryan in the earlier days, she did an absoluletely brilliant imitation of her speaking in Estuary English after a glass or two of Bacardi and coke. I'm deprived of that now].

'Uffer' is right, Gunnill is embraced on Menez' forum as a welcome contributor.

To look at Menez' and Butler's current agendas, you only have to look at all the times the MM Forum is referred to on the net as 'The Tony Bennett hate forum'. And the post count gives the game away: 3,500-plus posts on the anti-Tony Bennett threads, under 2,500 on their 'Main Maddie' thread.

The words 'lsot the plot' spring to mind.

But for the past two-and-a-half years, I don't think I've lost the plot.
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Post by Tony Bennett on 19.03.10 18:11

@Laffin Assasin wrote:Tony, Majic is mostly wrong !

Can you recall when the death threats you received were published in one of the Portuguese papers, I sent you the "threat" I'd received, that came from 'Majic' or one of his accomplices..he tried to blame his mate Clarky aka Andrew Waite of Apiphiny fame.
Well, I don't recall being aware of all that.

Sergeant Smith of Harlow Police told me Essex Police's I.T. Unit had traced the death threat I received on 23 October 2008 (three days after our website first went live) to 'an internet cafe in Chicago'.

To believe...or not to believe?
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Post by Tony Bennett on 19.03.10 18:17

@Pascal wrote:That doesn't explain to me why you give Majic the time of day. Are you in collusion with him? Is it because you wouldn't mind him annihilating the other fora? All a bit juvenile isn't it?
You haven't explained at all to me yet what your basis is for claiming that 'Majic' is annihilating other fora. Until I have reasonable evidence of that, I am inclined not to believe it.

I have explained twice on this forum the reasons for my limited contact with 'Majic'.

We are in contact, that's all - there is no 'collusion' about anything.
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Post by Laffin Assasin on 19.03.10 18:21

Tony, IIRC, I emailed you the messages I recived, they were almost word for word the same as those you recieved.

The messages I recieved came from Andy Griffins "Chaos Engine" account on the old 3 A's.

Andy griffins is a "proven liar and fantacist", I'm concerened about you "dalliences" with him.

It demonstrates a certain naievety on account.
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Post by Tony Bennett on 19.03.10 18:25

For the really curious, here is my first-ever e-mail to 'Majic', which followed an approach by him. It is dated 9 November and I reproduce it verbatim, uncut, in full, unexpurgated etc.

QUOTE E-MAIL TO 'MAJIC'

Dear Mr Griffin,

I note your comments. At present Mr Steve Marsden is blocking my access to what since 2 October has been a website totally under his ownership and control. I only know what is being posted there through reports from friends and also, I concede, from occasional visits to the 'JustAThought' site.

I wish to make a few things clear whilst I have the opportunity. I note that you said in your e-mail: "The truth does matter to people who have followed this case and I try strive to ensure, where possible that they have access to the truth".

Now that is a sentiment I can wholly agree with, and guides my actions relating to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. It is a mystery and many of us are engaged in a search for the truth about what happened to her.

It does no service to the truth about Madeleine for us or anyone else to print untruths about the case. I have strived to bring facts about the case to public notice and have not knowingly said anything untrue in doing so.

Likewise it does no service to the truth for your site and all the other ones you link to, like PFA2, JustAThought, HoundingtheMccans etc., to constantly publish, circulate and proliferate all kinds of untruths, many extremely libellous, about me. I will continue to bring the most serious of these to the notice of Essex Police and to hosting companies where appropriate. However, if you have any influence with the anonymous owners and posters on the forums and blogs you link to, perhaps you would remind them of your general principle that: "The truth does matter...and I try strive to ensure, where possible that they have access to the truth".

Within reason, I am happy to answer on the record relevant questions about myself or the MF.

Again just to place this on the record. I have given a written undertaking to Carter-Ruck not to repeat what they say are libellous allegations against their clients the McCanns. And since giving that undertaking I have not done so.

However, as our libel lawyers also advised, neither myself nor anyone else is inhibited from publishing the facts about the case and analysing them. That is something I may continue to do. And especially so since the Portuguese Police have brought so many facts and statements in this case to the public through the release of their DVD files.

NOTE: This message is not confidential and may be copied

Tony Bennett

P.S. Just a word to help spare the energetic team of researchers about me on JustAThought from having a breakdown in their ever more frantic attempts to find out what really goes on at 66 Chippingfield. No-one at this address runs an upholstery business nor is it an M.O.T. testing centre.


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Post by vaguely1 on 19.03.10 18:25

I'm at a loss as to why anyone would listen to word that comes out of Majics mouth.

the man/woman is a nutter.

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