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Post by jd on 24.11.11 0:45

I'm still recovering form gerrys freedom of speech statement...that is some gaul. Its going to take time to recover from this one. Maybe he should be proving this to the ones that are being sued and threatened with losing their lifelong homes and pensions, imprisonment, for having 'their opinion'! Practice what you preach mccann

As for the diaries...wasn't it gerry who had an online diary/blog for everyone to see and keep up to date with their thoughts and feelings? Wasn't it kate who released the book to the world with all her thoughts/feelings (with hardly anything on Maddie in it)? isn't this 'book' already being publicised for paperback release in the UK next April 26th 2012?

To the 'Maddie is dead' headline....didn't gerry say himself on his online diary/blog long before the press made the headline and I quote "I hope Maddie isn't buried here'!!!!!!

Isn't their 'story' officially logged in the UK Foreign Office as a 'missing persons' case and NOT an abduction as there is no evidence of an abduction?

Wasn't it the PJ who made them the suspects based on the evidence or lack of evidence that they hold? It was't the press who decided to make them suspects

Press intrusion...who made the call to Sky news and Daily Telegraph before the police even got there on May 3rd 2007? If they didn't want press intrusion why make the calls, especially at a time when you didn;t know what happened to Maddie, she may have just wandered off and be found...they wanted the press intrusion alright

Why were posters already printed out and being handed on photographic quality paper within 2 hours of Maddie disappearing? and on paper unavailable to purchase in PDL. Where did they get this paper between 10pm and midnight as they discovered in their panic Maddie had gone?mmmmmmmmm...and why an old photo of Maddie

Why did they and all their Tapas friends phone everyone in sight pushing the point the shutters had been jemmied (and immediately putting down the Portuguese police) yet when proven it was a lie, all totally retract from this and admit they hadn't been and it was the patio door that was unlocked? yet 4 years later and having admitted the shutters were not jemmied, they are still going on TV interviews to this day to unsuspecting foreign countries telling their public the jemmied shutter lie with kates reconstruction, knowing full well they have admitted this is not true?

Why do their twins look so much younger in May 2007 than they did in April 2007? Why do Maddies cousins look incredibly younger in 2008 than they did in April 2007?

Why do they release pictures of their daughter with fully professional makeup sucking ice creams and laying in seductive poses? where are the pictures from the holiday? there are none of mother and daughter, friends, twins and daughter...none

This is from the top of my head.....I could go on and on

If you ever wanted proof that the UK is riddled with corruption controlled by ones with money...then look no further than the mccanns scam and the ones protecting them

This freak show this afternoon I think had 3 purposes. To get the public sympathy and back on side in believing their scam story. To put down at every opportunity the Portuguese and especially their press as they know next february they will be reporting truths from the forthcoming Amaral case, sowing the seeds now in the British heads how bad and biased the Portuguese are. Their continuing praise of clarence mitchell was suspect and a worry he may spill a few beans, so keep him on side with the lavishing praises of how wonderful he was

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Post by Newintown on 24.11.11 1:29

jd, 24 Nov, 12.34 a.m.

That is a very strong message you have just posted. I wish I had your insight into all of what has been going on for the past 4 years and your articulate use of words. You and some of the other posters on this forum leave me in awe of the amazing work you have done into the creche records, deleted mobile phone numbers etc.

I truly wish that your message and others that have been posted on this board could be brought to the general publics' attention as to what has really been going on with the McCanns and to wake the idiots up such as some breakfast TV celebs, millionaire backers, and others.

Hopefully, one day, come February, they may see the light and to be shown up for the blinkered morons they all are.

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Post by Gillyspot on 24.11.11 7:05

I didn't get a chance to enjoy watching the Kate & Gerry show yesterday and was on twitter last night but I have just skimmed only 2 pages of their testimony and come up with 2 blatent lies.

1. Page 8

Sherbourne "Can I just ask you, though, have you ever had to give evidence before?"
Gerry McCann "No"

Gerry so WHAT is this then?

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmselect/cmcumeds/362/9031007.htm

2. Page 12

Sherbourne" You tell us in your witness statement that a photograph was made immediately available, provided to the broadcast media and to the press, and was, as it were displayed everywhere. Is that correct?

Gerry McCann "There's two elements to that. The first element was what we were doing on the night and obviously we had digital cameras and we were trying to get photographs printed of Madeleine from the holiday"

If that is true Madeleine aged quite a lot during 7 days Gerry!


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Post by Guest on 24.11.11 7:59

candyfloss wrote:[youtube][/youtube]

Candyfloss you are fantastic. Leveson Enquiry 23/11/11 - McCanns to give evidence - Page 5 725573 Leveson Enquiry 23/11/11 - McCanns to give evidence - Page 5 636911712 Leveson Enquiry 23/11/11 - McCanns to give evidence - Page 5 725573 Leveson Enquiry 23/11/11 - McCanns to give evidence - Page 5 636911712

He said Mad'line, then corrected himself very quickly closing his eyes knowing exactly what he just did !!! Leveson Enquiry 23/11/11 - McCanns to give evidence - Page 5 50899
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Post by Guest on 24.11.11 8:15

candyfloss wrote:[youtube][/youtube]

Candyfloss can I ask one more favour please? Can you put this clip also on the Creche Enquiry thread Leveson Enquiry 23/11/11 - McCanns to give evidence - Page 5 3934901622
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Post by PeterMac on 24.11.11 8:20

I'm still recovering from Gerry's freedom of speech statement...that is some gall. Its going to take time to recover from this one. Maybe he should be proving this to the ones that are being sued and threatened with losing their lifelong homes and pensions, imprisonment, for having 'their opinion'! Practice what you preach McCann

I feel sure that several people have made a careful note of the wording of that statement, and are ready to quote it at any future hearings !

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Post by PeterMac on 24.11.11 8:35

Just browsing GM's statement, (reference on another thread.)

Para 100 " For example in July of this year the Daily Mail reported that Madeleine had been sighted in India. They did so without contacting Kate or me or any of the number of people searching for Madeleine..."

But Mitchell told the world that they had been contacted and had seen the photographs.
One or other is lying.
LYING.
Come on Carter-Ruck.
One or other is LYING. Is it your client, under oath at the enquiry, or His Oiliness, Clarence Mitchell ?

(Here follows a completely gratuitous reference to Tony Bennett, so that Carter-Ruck will find this post !)

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Post by aiyoyo on 24.11.11 8:43

@PeterMac wrote:Just browsing GM's statement, (reference on another thread.)

Para 100 " For example in July of this year the Daily Mail reported that Madeleine had been sighted in India. They did so without contacting Kate or me or any of the number of people searching for Madeleine..."

But Mitchell told the world that they had been contacted and had seen the photographs.
One or other is lying.
LYING.
Come on Carter-Ruck.
One or other is LYING. Is it your client, under oath at the enquiry, or His Oiliness, Clarence Mitchell ?

(Here follows a completely gratuitous reference to Tony Bennett, so that Carter-Ruck will find this post !)

CM even said that they were dealing with the sighting info isnt it?
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Post by aiyoyo on 24.11.11 8:51

@PeterMac wrote:
I'm still recovering from Gerry's freedom of speech statement...that is some gall. Its going to take time to recover from this one. Maybe he should be proving this to the ones that are being sued and threatened with losing their lifelong homes and pensions, imprisonment, for having 'their opinion'! Practice what you preach McCann

I feel sure that several people have made a careful note of the wording of that statement, and are ready to quote it at any future hearings !

Well, gerry's freedom of speech belief is restricted to people not saying that Mad'line is dead and they were involved.

The Press' freedom of speech came at high price when they'd to fork out to 'mccanns' fighting fund' - that's gerry's freedom of speech statement for you!

And the irony - they believe in freedom of speech so much that they hired anti-freedom of speech lawyers to represent them.

Why didnt LI ask him : what about your hire of CR? Has that anything to do with your freedom of speech statement?
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Post by Guest on 24.11.11 9:06

Taken from Candyfloss's clip above.

“One(scratching behind left ear) of the articles that springs to mind actually, (moving all objects now in front of him) was a piece in a Portuguese news paper, where somebody talking to the Prosecutor and was asking what he thought had happened and erh, there was a quote(Kate now looks up at Gerry) saying they didn’t know whether (eyebrows raised) if Madeleine was alive or dead and erh, I think (closes eyes) the phone line was probably dead and that translated into the front page of the Daily Mirror (Kate quickly grabs glass of water) with a photograph of Mad’line,(frowns) Madeleine with a headline she’s dead,(looks to Kate, Kate puts glass down loudly) which we saw at 11.00 O’clock at night, (Kate nervously looks up and down towards the same person) we’re trying to go to bed and obviously (frowns) that was one of the most distressing headlines that is presented(raises shoulders once) as if it’s factual and it was just taken from that supposition,(Kate scratching right shoulder and looks towards Gerry) I don’t know probability, it was incredible.”

If anyone is any good at locating old front page headlines, can we try to find the one on the front of the Mirror that Gerry is claiming said "she's dead" please.
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Post by Guest on 24.11.11 9:12

@Daisy wrote:
Stella wrote:What's all this about a Portuguese Judge ordered the return of her dairy, which she got back after 24-48 hours, quoting 'a violation of it's author'. Is that true?





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Dispatches 25-26 June 2008 re: photocopies of KMH diary and
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Conclusion 26-06-2008

(Presents invoice)

The photocopies of the 'diary' do not contain any material of
interest to the ongoing investigation, but relate to the
personal and inviolable personal experiences of any person.

Accordingly I order the diary's respective destruction.

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Post by Levi on 24.11.11 9:17

@PeterMac wrote:Just browsing GM's statement, (reference on another thread.)

Para 100 " For example in July of this year the Daily Mail reported that Madeleine had been sighted in India. They did so without contacting Kate or me or any of the number of people searching for Madeleine..."

But Mitchell told the world that they had been contacted and had seen the photographs.
One or other is lying.
LYING.
Come on Carter-Ruck.
One or other is LYING. Is it your client, under oath at the enquiry, or His Oiliness, Clarence Mitchell ?

(Here follows a completely gratuitous reference to Tony Bennett, so that Carter-Ruck will find this post !)

Are you really ex-police?

Only I find this above process of deduction of yours rather alarming if that is the case.

The McCanns said that they HAD been sent a photograph of the girl in India but they did not claim it was the Daily Mail who had sent it to them did they? They had already told the authorities that the girl in India was not their daughter but the Mail picked up the story and went ahead with it anyway. Do you see how this is NOT the McCanns or Clarence lying now?
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Post by jd on 24.11.11 9:42

@aiyoyo wrote:
Well, gerry's freedom of speech belief is restricted to people not saying that Mad'line is dead and they were involved.

it was gerry himself who said in his online blog '...I hope they haven't buried her here'...if this is not saying Maddie is dead then what is! he said this himself long before anyone in the press did

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Post by Guest on 24.11.11 9:52

I've found this site - http://www.ukpressonline.co.uk/ukpressonline/open/simpleSearch.jsp?is=1 - which has apparently every headline story about Madeleine.

The link isn't working at the moment so if you go to http://www.ukpressonline.co.uk and enter her name in the "Search the database" box, you'll find it.

Some horrible memories of truly gruesome headlines, like "Inspector Clueless gets the boot".
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Post by bristow on 24.11.11 11:07

Stella wrote:

He said Mad'line, then corrected himself very quickly closing his eyes knowing exactly what he just did !!! Leveson Enquiry 23/11/11 - McCanns to give evidence - Page 5 50899

Although very much an anti Mccann person I do think that GM saying 'Mad'line' was a just a mistake as he was using the word 'headline' alot in that specific statement which rhymes with Mad'line and was using the two words side by side, easily done.

I think some people here (as good as they are) are in danger of going off track with some things and losing sight of the important things.
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Post by Ollie on 24.11.11 11:11

Kate: "but there were several occasions where they would bang on the windows, sometimes with the camera lenses, and Amelie said to me several times, "mummy, I'm scared."

Gerry: "I'd like to point out the twins at that time were still only two and a half years old. Very frightened."



Obviously if they woke up in a strange apartment in the dark with no parents there at two and a half years old, it would not be frightening, but of course they had Madeleine to take care of them should anything happen.

Gerry they were only two and a half years old when you and Kate left them on their own night after night!!!
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Post by Guest on 24.11.11 11:26

@bristow wrote:
Stella wrote:

He said Mad'line, then corrected himself very quickly closing his eyes knowing exactly what he just did !!! Leveson Enquiry 23/11/11 - McCanns to give evidence - Page 5 50899

Although very much an anti Mccann person I do think that GM saying 'Mad'line' was a just a mistake as he was using the word 'headline' alot in that specific statement which rhymes with Mad'line and was using the two words side by side, easily done.

I think some people here (as good as they are) are in danger of going off track with some things and losing sight of the important things.

Hello bristow and welcome to the forum with your very first post.

You could very well be right. I'm sure we have all been tongue tied at one time or another. But strange don't you think, that Gerry spoke with many speech breaks, plus a few urms!! In fact I would say it was a very controlled speech and constantly looking down he was obviously following a few prompts.
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Post by jd on 24.11.11 11:41

Stella wrote: I would say it was a very controlled speech and constantly looking down he was obviously following a few prompts.

Of course he was. It was all very well rehearsed & scripted and even choreographed down to the wristbands

The only blip was the man asking to find who leaked the diaries. But he got shot down by Leveson in the most diplomatic and unrevealing way possible

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Post by aiyoyo on 24.11.11 11:46

@Ollie wrote:Kate: "but there were several occasions where they would bang on the windows, sometimes with the camera lenses, and Amelie said to me several times, "mummy, I'm scared."

Gerry: "I'd like to point out the twins at that time were still only two and a half years old. Very frightened."



Obviously if they woke up in a strange apartment in the dark with no parents there at two and a half years old, it would not be frightening, but of course they had Madeleine to take care of them should anything happen.

Gerry they were only two and a half years old when you and Kate left them on their own night after night!!!

Yeah, they weren't frightened when they were left alone in the dark with patio doors left opened for abductor easy access to come for them.

Oh, didn't they originally say the shutters were jemmied while the Police had said that couldnt be done without waking up the dead, so did gerry think that the 'dreadful noise' of the jemmied shutters didnt frighten the twins that they mentioned nothing about it?

And I thought the twins weren't interviewed because they couldnt talk properly at that age, but when it suited the mccanns they did talk properly to tell them they were afraid. Christ on a bike....nothing is beyond that lying pair even under oath!

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Post by aiyoyo on 24.11.11 11:50

@jd wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:
Well, gerry's freedom of speech belief is restricted to people not saying that Mad'line is dead and they were involved.

it was gerry himself who said in his online blog '...I hope they haven't buried her here'...if this is not saying Maddie is dead then what is! he said this himself long before anyone in the press did

Well, there you go - right out of the horse's mouth!

Why were they even in Leveson Inquiry? What did they hope to achieve there - more money from the press?
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Post by dannybohy on 24.11.11 11:56

@bristow wrote:
Stella wrote:

He said Mad'line, then corrected himself very quickly closing his eyes knowing exactly what he just did !!! Leveson Enquiry 23/11/11 - McCanns to give evidence - Page 5 50899

Although very much an anti Mccann person I do think that GM saying 'Mad'line' was a just a mistake as he was using the word 'headline' alot in that specific statement which rhymes with Mad'line and was using the two words side by side, easily done.

I think some people here (as good as they are) are in danger of going off track with some things and losing sight of the important things.



Very well said! there is at least someone on this forum with some sanity!
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Post by Ollie on 24.11.11 11:57

Of course it is for more money, free advertising as well...who could resist those attractive quality writsbands!
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Post by jd on 24.11.11 12:01

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Why were they even in Leveson Inquiry? What did they hope to achieve there - more money from the press?

For me....To get the public sympathy and back on side in believing their scam story. To put down at every opportunity the Portuguese and especially their press as they know next february they will be reporting truths from the forthcoming Amaral case, sowing the seeds now in the British heads how bad and biased the Portuguese are. Their continuing praise of clarence mitchell was suspect and a worry he may spill a few beans, so keep him on side with the lavishing praises of how wonderful he was

I also think they somehow would love to get out of the limelight now and disappear to a quiet life away from it all. But they can't, they will have to take responsibility for their actions over the past 4 years

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Post by bristow on 24.11.11 12:12

They may be worrying too about the SY inquiry, best to try to get the publics sympathy while there's a chance.
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Post by Cristobell on 24.11.11 12:13

There were several occasions within the questioning where Gerry was caught in a lie. No, no need to adjust the set, his face really was that red!

I am also astonished that they are portraying themselves as innocents abroad, when the spin doctors and lawyers arrived on the scene at almost the same time as the emergency services. They had the 'best' PR advice from the start and for whatever reason they began a campaign labelling the PJ as incompetent. They continually portray themselves as victims of those nasty sardine munchers, and I suspect their wider agenda will continue to include the 'set up by the PJ' stance.

Digressing slightly, does anyone else find kate's constant groping of gerry's thigh (or whatever) a bit icky - her arm was under the table for the first part of the interview? Maybe Pat (Brown) will have an explanation for this.................
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