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Post by Tony Bennett on 29.11.09 10:07

On or about 8 or 9 October this year, Ambersuz, owner of the Missing Madeleine Forum, sent the following message to her most trusted of her six or seven Mods and Admin. It appears from the 'pm' that she does not trust two of them in particularr: 'David' and 'eddie'.

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ADDITIONAL NOTE: This 'pm' appears to have been deliberately leaked, presumably by one of the Moderators/Admin of Ambersuz on 'Missing Madeleine', to amongst others the JustAThought Forum run by bonnybraes and MsMarbles. A long discussion about it has already started and can be viewed here: http://justathoughtyouknow.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=guests&action=display&thread=217

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Ambersuz is indeed 'Susana'. I know her surname but I promised not to reveal it and that promise will be kept.

It can only have been sent by her to one of her Moderators. I've updated this OP to make clear it's not 'justagrannynow', a former Moderator respected for her integrity, fairness and impartiality and, by the way, someone who has always been in this solely to try and get at the truth about what really happened to Madeleine McCann. She left 'Missing Madeleine recently due I think partly to Debbie Butler's allegations against me being published on MM and due to the collective plotting of Ambersuz, Brenda Ryan and Debbie Butler who were, as we can see here, not only in direct contact with Clarence Mitchell but also actively encouraging Debbie Butler to speak with Clarence Mitchell 'again'.

Perhaps those who wonder why on 4 November 2009 the Committee of The Madeleine Foundation decided to expel her will have a greater understanding of why we had no alternative. By the way, she has still not exercised her right of appeal against that decision.

For those not awae of these things, the reference to 'Bren' in this private message is to Brenda Ryan, the former owner of the 3As Forum.

The following 'pm' is of major significance in understanding why Debbie Butler made public allegations agaisnt me as she has done and so I print it in larger font size:

'PM' FROM AMBERSUZ/SUSANA TO HER MODERATOR 'JUSTAGRANNYNOW' SENT AROUND 9 OCTOBER 2009 - UNEDITED

Hi

I can’t say much more about it at this time but it looks like Debbie has had another sort of breakdown.

Bren and me are looking out for her but she insists on continuing to post.

She is starting to make crazy accusations against Bennet and money gone missing from the Foundation.

She has no proof but has said that someone has told her…she then told Bren that a voice in her head told her about the money…we think she is just stressed out by all that has gone on since the meeting with Kirwans last Friday.

Its been a long week since believe me…Bren is trying to talk her round to talking to Clarence Mitchell again but given the latest breakdown we may have to stall that. This is not to get out in the public or secret sections…you me and Bren are the only ones who know about it okay!

I don’t trust the other Mods on here with this…if Debbie gets in contact just play her along okay until we decide what we are going to do with her.

Susana
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Post by Mike on 29.11.09 10:25

if this is true mr bennett ,what a nasty pair of shitbags jackboots and bren are
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Post by Guest on 29.11.09 10:31

Question from Rocky somewhere in here no one seems willing to answer..
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Post by Tony Bennett on 29.11.09 10:34

sym wrote:Question from Rocky somewhere in here no one seems willing to answer.

New topic also opened for this:

From Tony Bennett:

I have been publicly called a 'liar' because Debbie and I paid Kirwans from The Madeleine Foundation chequebook the sum of £500.00, which appeared to contradict this statement I made on 17 September 2009:

We should just like to add this. Any fees incurred for legal advice will be met personally by ourselves and the funds in The Madeleine Foundation’s bank account will not be used.

This joint statement by me and Debbie followed what appeared to have been her resignation from The Madeleine Foundation, announced on 15 September on the 'Missing Madeleine' Forum. That took a few e-mails and 'phone calls to sort out and at the time I thought it was a temporary 'blip'.

Prior to our meeting with Kirwans on 2 October 2009, Debbie Butler informed me that Kirwans were asking for an upfront 'on account' payment of £500.00. I recommended that we waited until we saw them on 2 October.

At that meeting with Kirwans, as I've stated elsewhere, they advised us in the strongest possible terms and repeatedly that we both faced the possibility of financial ruin.

They then said they would charge us £5,000 [yes, three noughts] plus VAT (£750.00) for settling the exact terms of the settlement with Carter-Ruck based on our accession to their demands.

Debbie and I conferred over lunch and Debbie and I both felt we could not afford that. Debbie then suggested that we simply give them the £500.00 upfront fee they had demanded, as a gesture of goodwill for help and advice received to date, and reject their offer. I agreed.

Neither of us had £500 cash on us so we both signed a Madeleine Foundation cheque for £500.

The payment of this £500 to Kirwans was discussed by members at our meeting on 3 October in Cardiff. All members present were insistent that it would be unreasonable for Debbie and I to meet that cost out of personal funds and agreed that it was a legitimate expense for The Madeleine Foundation. I reported to the meeting in detail about the legal advice that was given to us and members felt that the payment of £500.00 for four hours' worth of legal advice plus the advice and help given by Kirwans before the meeting was good value for money so far as the future activities of The Madeleine Foundation were concerned.

Subsequently all 37 members were informed by letter of the payment. Not one member has even raised a query about £500.00 of MF funds being used to pay Kirwans. And it is to our members that the Committee is answerable.
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Post by Guest on 29.11.09 10:36

Mr Bennett why have you named the person in the pm when it was obvious that she didnt want to be identified.
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Post by Guest on 29.11.09 10:36

Im not even reading that...too much info first thing in the morning for me..rocky has been asking here and on my blog..
Gotta say starting to feel sorry for Butler..could you forgive her Tony if she dropped this nonsense and apologised?
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Post by Tony Bennett on 29.11.09 10:38

sym wrote:Gotta say starting to feel sorry for Butler...could you forgive her Tony if she dropped this nonsense and apologised?
Yes of course, forgive and forget, but the person must say sorry and mean it - and must make amends where she can
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Post by Guest on 29.11.09 10:42

@Tony Bennett wrote:
sym wrote:Gotta say starting to feel sorry for Butler...could you forgive her Tony if she dropped this nonsense and apologised?
Yes of course, forgive and forget, but the person must say sorry and mean it - and must make amends where she can
She probbly feels she has gone too far...I personaly think it was that jumped up NPD fre aky forum owner ambersuz who made things go this far, carp advice for her own ends.
I hope Butler is reading here and see's this and gets rid of ambersuz.
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Post by Guest on 29.11.09 10:46

How did the Ambersuz PM come become available? Who leaked it, and to whom? And why was the recipient named?
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Post by Jill Havern on 29.11.09 10:48

@Tony Bennett wrote:if Debbie gets in contact just play her along okay until we decide what we are going to do with her.

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What on earth does that mean?
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Post by Guest on 29.11.09 10:49

And why was the recipient named?

That`s what I`d like to know, Chinagirl
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Post by Tony Bennett on 29.11.09 10:56

@Chinagirl wrote:How did the Ambersuz PM come become available? Who leaked it, and to whom? And why was the recipient named?
See this note which I've added to the OP:

ADDITIONAL NOTE: This 'pm' appears to have been deliberately leaked, to amongst others the JustAThought Forum run by bonnybraes and MsMarbles, a long discussion about it has already started and can be viewed here: http://justathoughtyouknow.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=guests&action=display&thread=217
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Post by Tony Bennett on 29.11.09 11:05

lima wrote:But her name was blanked out on that. Why did you name her?
There is only one possible source for this. It is well known as she has made it public that 'justagrannynow' could not stand the hate, backbiting and intrigue emanating from Ambersuz and her supporters on 'Missing Madeleine' and publicly stated that in future she would only post on Joana Morais' MaddieCaseFiles*, which is where most of the useful discussion, research and analysis of what really happened to Madeleine McCann takes place these days.

* http://themaddiecasefiles.com/

Might I respectfully suggest to you and chinagirl and other 'pros' on here that you now pay close attention to what this very telling 'pm' from Susana/Ambersuz tells us about the motivations and actions of...

Brenda Ryan
Ambersuz/Susana
Debbie Butler
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Post by Guest on 29.11.09 11:07

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Chinagirl wrote:How did the Ambersuz PM come become available? Who leaked it, and to whom? And why was the recipient named?
See this note which I've added to the OP:

ADDITIONAL NOTE: This 'pm' appears to have been deliberately leaked, to amongst others the JustAThought Forum run by bonnybraes and MsMarbles, a long discussion about it has already started and can be viewed here: http://justathoughtyouknow.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=guests&action=display&thread=217

I know that as I have been reading and posting there on this subject. However, it doesn't answer the question I have asked - and so has the poster Lima - why was the recipient named here? She was not named in the JATYK copy of the PM.
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Post by Guest on 29.11.09 11:14

Shit happens. They may have blanked the name out but when they slapped my paypal details up for all to see ( when in Rome wear a toga) they left the password and sign in details and that paedophile sympathiser muratfan has posts on hers accusing me for being a burglar ffs... I cant believe none of you are astounded at the filthy buggers looking in peoples bins yet worry about trivia of names not being blanked out.
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Post by Guest on 29.11.09 11:15

@Tony Bennett wrote:
lima wrote:But her name was blanked out on that. Why did you name her?
There is only one possible source for this. It is well known as she has made it public that 'justagrannynow' could not stand the hate, backbiting and intrigue emanating from Ambersuz and her supporters on 'Missing Madeleine' and publicly stated that in future she would only post on Joana Morais' MaddieCaseFiles*, which is where most of the useful discussion, research and analysis of what really happened to Madeleine McCann takes place these days.

* http://themaddiecasefiles.com/

Might I respectfully suggest to you and chinagirl and other 'pros' on here that you now pay close attention to what this very telling 'pm' from Susana/Ambersuz tells us about the motivations and actions of...

Brenda Ryan
Ambersuz/Susana
Debbie Butler



Firstly , I and Im sure other people, would not have known who sent it, the person obviously wanted to remain anonymous, and yet you chose to name her. If you read another post of hers on this forum,you`ll see that she clearly says Amber has her personal details which will no doubt now appear on the net as she`s being perfectly coached by Bren who doesnt think twice about exposing peoples personal details and that of their families.

Why do you think Im a pro Mr Bennett? You couldnt be further from the truth. Perhaps if you took the time to read my post here https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/have-your-say-f1/explain-this-mr-bennett-t26.htm#899
at 6.02 yesterday you`d care to revise that comment.
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Post by Guest on 29.11.09 11:20

By the way, just for your information, I think the comment about what Bren and Ambersuz are going to do with Debbie is one of the worst things Ive ever read. The are beyond evil to play with someone who is so obviously unwell, however, it doesnt suprise me one bit considering the other repulsive things they`ve done.
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Post by Guest on 29.11.09 11:24

lima wrote:By the way, just for your information, I think the comment about what Bren and Ambersuz are going to do with Debbie is one of the worst things Ive ever read. The are beyond evil to play with someone who is so obviously unwell, however, it doesnt suprise me one bit considering the other repulsive things they`ve done.
Agree....Debbie needs to be out of there before they drive her to suicide.
Butler if you are re ading you were half normal when we frist started to speak and I know it ws shitlersuz who put my email up not you...Get rid of them, they are like herpes..totally annoying, unsightly and good for nothing.
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Post by Tony Bennett on 29.11.09 11:33

lima wrote:By the way, just for your information, I think the comment about what Bren and Ambersuz are going to do with Debbie is one of the worst things Ive ever read. The are beyond evil to play with someone who is so obviously unwell, however, it doesnt suprise me one bit considering the other repulsive things they've done.
lima, I don't know who you are, a lot of 'pros' have come on here in recent days, they follow and hound me wherever I post and ask question after question and make accusation after accusation; if you are honestly one of those who seriously questions the account by the McCanns and their friends that Madeleine was abducted, I apologise. Could you please add what you have personally done to try and expose the truth about what really happened to Madeleine McCann, thanks
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Post by Guest on 29.11.09 11:37

@Tony Bennett wrote:
lima wrote:By the way, just for your information, I think the comment about what Bren and Ambersuz are going to do with Debbie is one of the worst things Ive ever read. The are beyond evil to play with someone who is so obviously unwell, however, it doesnt suprise me one bit considering the other repulsive things they've done.
lima, I don't know who you are, a lot of 'pros' have come on here in recent days, they follow and hound me wherever I post and ask question after question and make accusation after accusation; if you are honestly one of those who seriously questions the account by the McCanns and their friends that Madeleine was abducted, I apologise. Could you please add what you have personally done to try and expose the truth about what really happened to Madeleine McCann, thanks
We all seem to be getting stalked.. Shocked
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Post by Guest on 29.11.09 11:41

No I wont tell you what Ive done, I dont have to justify my being here to you. But I can assure you that I thought the Mccanns were guilty of at least neglect, from day one and I havent changed my mind since then.
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Post by heresthetruth on 29.11.09 11:42

Ambersuz Today at 11:22


Well this is an outrageous lie and now granny seems to be in cahoots with Bennett? Interesting indeed!

Even if I had sent a pm to Granny how can she now get to any of them if she's banned from here for being a backstabber so when was this planned by her and yourself? Just before she flounced?

Who said she was the most trusted of my mods? She wasnt by far...in fact 3 of my mods thought she was a troll in disguise as she was flitting between pro forums and anti forums hitting out at everyone all over the show.....and I didnt believe them! (screen shot to follow)

So what is it? on or abouts the 8th or 9th? Surely if she has that pm then she can post real screenshots of the real date with her name on it? I'll wait for the real ones and not your photoshopped cheapo version you obviously gave BB1! Remember we can all type anything we like...whether its the truth or not leaves much to be desired....especially coming from a compulsive liar as you are Bennett.....

Tony you really are grasping at straws now and I really am patient and I dont fret...I'm not investigating you.....but you keep clinging on to your fan club cause they wont be able to help you out when the police come for you mate!

Bennett you yourself said you expelled Debbie on the 3rd October (in various places) so why are you pushing that date forwards a whole month now???
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Post by baconbutty on 29.11.09 11:44

"...until we decide what we are going to do with her."

Well it's now late November, have they decided what to do with her yet?

The kindest thing they could have done with her would have been to impose a temporary ban on her posts until this matter is officially settled. To save her from herself, if nothing else. For Ambersuz to say that DB 'insists' on posting is ridiculous, because Ambersuz has the power to do something about that. And if Butler had flounced on the strength of that decision, then so be it.

But all they have done so far is encourage and reinforce her incoherent ramblings with their own anti-Bennett posts, indeed Ambersuz has started threads herself.

And just a small point here, but why has Ambersuz spelt TB's surname incorrectly in the pm when she spells it properly on the forum?
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Post by Guest on 29.11.09 11:44

Getting desperate over on MM..stand by for indiscriminate shit throwing in all directions, roll
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