9/ll conspiracy theories: How they've evolved

EJW wrote:Im glad this topic has been brought up, as its something I've followed for many years. From the early theories of loose change.com, almost from the sublime to the ridiculous. I have never been a believer of the hologram theory or the abduction and name changing/ witness protection of the Flight 93  passengers, who purportedly landed in Kansa and were given new identities. 




 I firmly believe that people died in the twin towers, i personally lts 3 work colleagues in the tragedy so i am in no doubt that people died.


I do not believe that his was a crime committed by an inexperienced bunch of Muslim fanatics with minimal flig training, nor do i believe that a passenger jet crashed into the pentagon. I also believe that Flight 93 was shot down by a missile. 


I do not really believe that victims were computer generated images, due to the fact that i had worked wih 3 victims.


It is very hard to get to grips with all of the information. I have visited Ground Zero  and it is devastating and quite the saddest place I have ever been.


To add, veterans today as been mentioned on here and many if their contributors do not believe April Gallp.
They also believe that 911 truth movement is also a tool of disinformation. 


JD i love the enthusiasm you have for this  and the sandy hook and Boston moving topics, particularly as you have said you are relatively knew to his area. Dont get sucked into everything you read. David Ray Griffin is very contentious but worth a read.  :-)

Russia Warns Obama: Monsanto

The shocking minutes relating to President Putin’s meeting this past week with US Secretary of State John Kerry reveal the Russian leaders “extreme outrage” over the Obama regimes continued protection of global seed and plant bio-genetic giants Syngenta and Monsanto in the face of a growing “bee apocalypse” that the Kremlin warns “will most certainly” lead to world war. http://topinfopost.com/2013/05/28/russia-warns-obama-monsanto

EJW wrote:Don't worry JD you're preaching to the converted, as it were. Im with you on this :-)

jd wrote:One more thing...Next week the UK government are going to announce its total support for GM crops........

UK Pushes Europe to Embrace GM Crops http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-8654595.html Britain is to push the European Union to relax restrictions on the licensing of genetically modified crops for human consumption amid growing scientific evidence that they are safe , and surveys showing they are supported by farmers. The Environment Secretary, Owen Paterson, is expected to use a speech next week to outline the start of a new government approach to GM to ensure Britain “is not left behind” in agricultural science. The move comes as 61 per cent  of UK farmers now say they would like to grow GM crops after a disastrous 12-month cycle of poor weather that is expected significantly to reduce harvest yields. Senior government officials said that ministers are increasingly concerned that the potential moral and ethical benefits of GM are being ignored by costly and bureaucratic licensing regulations. With one-twelfth of global arable land under GM cultivation they have privately warned that Britain faces being left behind in an important technology that has the potential to improve crop yields, help the UK’s agricultural industry and provide benefits to human health through vitamin fortification. Government "sources" added that GM also had applications beyond food including the potential to combat diseases such as ash dieback and in developing new medicines. “The point about GM is not simply about food production,” they said. “There are wider potential environmental and economic benefits to the technology both in the UK and internationally.  “What we want to do is start a dialogue within Europe on GM based upon the science.”

Owen Paterson Married to Rose Ridley, sister of Matt Ridley. Matt Ridley is a genetic scientist. Visiting professor at Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory where they study plant genetics.

Cold Spring Lab are the main protagonists in the iPlant Collaborative

and are funded by Pioneer Hi-bred International who are in turn owned by Dupont. Hi-bred specialise in high bred corn seeds. Pioneer makes and sells hybrid seed and genetically modified seed, some of which goes on to become genetically modified food.

Russia Warns Obama: Monsanto

The shocking minutes relating to President Putin’s meeting this past week with US Secretary of State John Kerry reveal the Russian leaders “extreme outrage” over the Obama regimes continued protection of global seed and plant bio-genetic giants Syngenta and Monsanto in the face of a growing “bee apocalypse” that the Kremlin warns “will most certainly” lead to world war. http://topinfopost.com/2013/05/28/russia-warns-obama-monsanto

Bees have been battling bad weather, loss of habitat and possible pesticide effects but now keepers are facing a new threat - bee-rustling.  Cardiff beekeeper Elaine Spence found one her hives stripped of its honey bee colony in March. She said she knows of 10 other hives being stolen in the past year by people who need expert knowledge to do it. BBC Wales' Eye on Wales programme has found a number of hive theft cases although no officials figures are kept. Ms Spence estimates a colony of bees could sell for more than £200. She tells the the current affairs programme of her devastation to discover the theft of one of her colonies.  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-22660132

Monsanto was one of the principal companies to supply Agent Orange to the U.S. government during the Vietnam War. Agent Orange is a defoliant that was used in Vietnam between 1962 and 1971 to "clear vegetation around military bases and obliterate hiding places and rice paddies used by the Viet Cong."[12] It is made from two herbicide compounds, 2,4-D and 2,4,5-T, and releases dioxin as a byproduct of the manufacturing process that becomes contained within 2,4,5-T (and in some instances in 2,4-D).[12] Dioxin is highly carcinogenic and one of the most dangerous chemicals known to man.[12]
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Monsanto

jd wrote:

jd wrote:One more thing...Next week the UK government are going to announce its total support for GM crops........

UK Pushes Europe to Embrace GM Crops http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...s-8654595.html Britain is to push the European Union to relax restrictions on the licensing of genetically modified crops for human consumption amid growing scientific evidence that they are safe , and surveys showing they are supported by farmers. The Environment Secretary, Owen Paterson, is expected to use a speech next week to outline the start of a new government approach to GM to ensure Britain “is not left behind” in agricultural science. The move comes as 61 per cent  of UK farmers now say they would like to grow GM crops after a disastrous 12-month cycle of poor weather that is expected significantly to reduce harvest yields. Senior government officials said that ministers are increasingly concerned that the potential moral and ethical benefits of GM are being ignored by costly and bureaucratic licensing regulations. With one-twelfth of global arable land under GM cultivation they have privately warned that Britain faces being left behind in an important technology that has the potential to improve crop yields, help the UK’s agricultural industry and provide benefits to human health through vitamin fortification. Government "sources" added that GM also had applications beyond food including the potential to combat diseases such as ash dieback and in developing new medicines. “The point about GM is not simply about food production,” they said. “There are wider potential environmental and economic benefits to the technology both in the UK and internationally.  “What we want to do is start a dialogue within Europe on GM based upon the science.”

Owen Paterson Married to Rose Ridley, sister of Matt Ridley. Matt Ridley is a genetic scientist. Visiting professor at Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory where they study plant genetics.

Cold Spring Lab are the main protagonists in the iPlant Collaborative

and are funded by Pioneer Hi-bred International who are in turn owned by Dupont. Hi-bred specialise in high bred corn seeds. Pioneer makes and sells hybrid seed and genetically modified seed, some of which goes on to become genetically modified food.

Russia Warns Obama: Monsanto

The shocking minutes relating to President Putin’s meeting this past week with US Secretary of State John Kerry reveal the Russian leaders “extreme outrage” over the Obama regimes continued protection of global seed and plant bio-genetic giants Syngenta and Monsanto in the face of a growing “bee apocalypse” that the Kremlin warns “will most certainly” lead to world war. http://topinfopost.com/2013/05/28/russia-warns-obama-monsanto

Bees have been battling bad weather, loss of habitat and possible pesticide effects but now keepers are facing a new threat - bee-rustling.  Cardiff beekeeper Elaine Spence found one her hives stripped of its honey bee colony in March. She said she knows of 10 other hives being stolen in the past year by people who need expert knowledge to do it. BBC Wales' Eye on Wales programme has found a number of hive theft cases although no officials figures are kept. Ms Spence estimates a colony of bees could sell for more than £200. She tells the the current affairs programme of her devastation to discover the theft of one of her colonies.  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-22660132

Downing Street has refused to say whether David Cameron would eat genetically-modified food or feed it to his family, despite being asked about its safety eight times

DAVID CAMERON'S SPOKESMAN REFUSES EIGHT TIMES TO SAY GM FOOD IS SAFE

1) Asked whether the Prime Minister is relaxed about eating GM food, his official spokesman said: "As the Prime Minister was saying last week, it's time to have a good look again at the issue of GM food. In this area, all decisions, rightly, will be taken in line with the latest independent scientific advice."

2) Asked whether the Prime Minister would serve it to his family, he said: "I know why the questions are asked this way. In this area, I've been very clear all decisions around that type of issue will be based on the latest independent scientific advice."

3) Asked why Downing Street will not tell us whether the Prime Minister would he eat GM food, he said: "The wider issue is around ensuring food safety. It's absolutely right every shopper, whoever, they are, can have confidence. That is why decisions in this area are based on the very latest scientific advice, so that every every shopper can have confidence."

4) Asked whether the Prime Minister shares the confidence of Owen Paterson this is safe to eat, he said: "We have very clear processes based on science to make sure food is safe. On the issue of GM food, the Prime Minister very clearly says it is important to look again and GM offers real opportunities."

5) Asked whether it fair to say the PM hasnt made up his mind about whether he would eat GM food, he said: "The point around is this that... there are clear regulatory structures so consumers whoever they are can have confidence in what they buy. The issue is around how we can open up the discussion around the potential benefits of GM to ensure the EU is not left behind in this area. As I say, it's very clear safeguarding health is always the top priority in these types of decisions and that's why they are always based on the latest scientific advice.

6) Asked why he will not reveal the Prime Minister's view on the safety of GM food when Owen Paterson says it is fine, he said: "I'm making the point that applications for trials with regard to GM food are rightly made on a case by case basis and should continue to be made in the future in line with the latest scientific and independent advice. The Secretary of State is saying there is no credible basis for the argument that is sometimes made that GM crops are inherently unsafe. But it's right to keep reassuring people, actually, that the decisions will continue to be made on the best scientific evidence."

7) Asked why the Prime Minister won't tell us if he eats it himself, he said: "Rather than going into the PM's shopping basket I've made the point that shoppers, whoever they are, can have confidence in the food that is on sale because we have these stringent regulatory structures."

8) Asked why the Prime Minister won't be absolutely unequivocal that GM food is safe, he said: "I've said the Government's view is that there's no credible basis for an argument that GM crops are inherently unsafe. It is also right that we look at GM products on a case by case basis."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/10132218/Downing-St-refuses-to-say-whether-David-Cameron-would-eat-GM-food.html

Britain faces a wave of deadly new animal and plant diseases that threaten to wipe out crops and livestock as a direct result of global warming, the World Bank's top agricultural expert has warned
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/after-schmallenberg-and-bluetongue-expert-warns-of-new-diseases-threatening-britains-livestock-and-crops-because-of-global-warming-8664584.html

Bill Gates donates £6.4m grant to British scientists for GM  crops in one of the largest single investments to project
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2174070/Bill-Gates-donates-6-4m-grant-British-scientists-GM-crops.html

CIMMYT: Bill Gates Invests $25 Million In Controversial GM Crop Center
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/15/cimmyt-bill-gates-gm-crop-center_n_2695241.html

Bill Gates Dodges Questions on Why He Owns 500,000 Shares of Monsanto
http://www.whydontyoutrythis.com/2013/04/bill-gates-dodges-questions-on-why-he-owns-500000-shares-of-monsanto.html

Monsanto was one of the principal companies to supply Agent Orange to the U.S. government during the Vietnam War. Agent Orange is a defoliant that was used in Vietnam between 1962 and 1971 to "clear vegetation around military bases and obliterate hiding places and rice paddies used by the Viet Cong."[12] It is made from two herbicide compounds, 2,4-D and 2,4,5-T, and releases dioxin as a byproduct of the manufacturing process that becomes contained within 2,4,5-T (and in some instances in 2,4-D).[12] Dioxin is highly carcinogenic and one of the most dangerous chemicals known to man.[12]
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Monsanto

...Its called Agenda 21...and its coming very quickly now

tigger wrote:Came across this one:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0xzsbSbVUE - a retired army major general from the US.  Bit slow but fantastic that he's had the courage to do this video.

jd wrote:This BBC interview with Dr Niels Harrit I find really fascinating. Dr. Niels Harrit is an Associate Professor Emeritus of Chemistry at the University of Copenhagen and one among an international team of scientists who published a paper in The Open Chemical Physics Journal on the discovery of nano-thermite in the dust from the World Trade Center collapses on September 11, 2001. He is internationally established & renowned in his field

When asked to be interviewed by the BBC for part of their Conspiracy Files series, which was nothing more than an attempt to debunk the 9-11 truth movement, Dr. Niels Harrit decided to record a copy of the interview for himself. The interviewer Michael Rudin shows that this was a setup from the beginning with his barbaric interviewing style, and the final production that was broadcasted on the BBC painted Dr. Niels Harrit as a conspiracy nutcase. Fortunately this true copy of the interview was recorded, and it proves Michael Rudin tries to force a series of utterly ridiculous beliefs onto Dr. Niels Harrit, some of which defy all sense of logic and scientific possibility. If anything shows the real face of the BBC, then this is it

Although the interview is quite long, it is jam-packed with information proving that the Twin Towers were brought down on 9-11 with explosives, and that the planes were not responsible for their destruction

My favourite part is around 42mins when Dr. Niels Harrit describes the "passport"!...."and this is what you believe!" "You believe someone who couldn't fly a Cessna and had never flown a jet airliner, could fly around Washington (the most protected airspace in the world) and the Pentagon (the most protected building in the world) and then fly the plane a few feet from the ground into the building, where there is no wreckage, no bodies, nothing, and you believe this really happened"!

With this interview and the 2 videos above, it is so clear the absolute control TPTB have on MSM to promote their 'official story' vs The real truth i.e hide what they are really doing...Question everything

May 2011 BBC Interview with Dr. Niels Harrit.



BBC censors Dr Niels Harrit, Danish scientist who found unexploded nano-thermite high explosive in all samples of the World Trade Center (WTC) dust examined
https://sites.google.com/site/censorshipbythebbc/bbc-censors-niels

tigger wrote:Isn't it the case that the BBC was reporting the collapse of building seven when it was clearly still standing on the live screen behind them?

Just thought I`d  recap the many drills and exercises taking place on 9/11 in some detail for the benefit of any who might have missed this crucial political evidence of an inside job on 9/11. None of this evidence can be explained away as coincidence and happenstance and without the drills the attacks of 9/11 could not possibly have succeeded at all. Yet it is largely forgotten by the Truth Movement and the grateful debunkers who don`t have to grapple with this damning evidence, and who can instead engage in endless, and fruitless, hyper technical debates about the melting point of steel, the nature of invisible fires, floor trusses and "thermal expansion". On to the drills and exercises taking place on 9/11 therefore!

1:Vigilant Guardian.

Closely mimicked the events of 9/11. Joint US/Canadian exercise, designed to test the "coordination of the two defense establishments".
Described by globalsecurity.org as an overview CPX (command post exercise), conducted in conjunction with Global Guardian and Apollo Guardian (more about those later). VG is a yearly NORAD exercise, but VG 01 focused specifically on terrorists using hijacked planes as weapons.
However, as the 9/11 Commission noted, Vigilant Guardian also "postulated a bomber attack from the former Soviet Union". It was therefore a combined hijacking and WW3 exercise, and it contributed to the confusion among NORAD emergency response teams by using false radar signals for training exercises at the same time as "real" hijackings were taking place. Without this confusion there should have been a decent chance of shooting down the first plane heading towards NYC, and none of the three subsequent planes could have reached their intended targets at all. Because of Vigilant Guardian the intercept time of the fighter wings assigned to defend the eastern corridor increased from about 7 minutes before and after 9/11 to more than an hour in the case of Flight 77. Only within the narrow window provided by the Vigilant Guardian exercise could the 9/11 attacks have succeeded.
Why did they occur in precisely this window? Obviously they had to, or they couldn`t have succeeded, but was the US command structure infiltrated by al Qaida who used their positions inside the USA to arrange all these drills deliberately, was al Qaida tipped off by moles on the inside so they could arrange the attacks during the Vigilant Guardian window, or were they in fact simply controlled patsies set up to take the fall for a US/NATO false flag operation? It shouldn`t even be necessary to point out which of these alternatives is the most plausible.
Regardless, VG is the single most important exercise of 9/11 because it looks the most like the official fable about the hijackers, and is therefore the most likely medium for organizing this part of 9/11 through the "security" bureaucracy.

http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=vigilant_guardian

2: Vigilant Warrior:

Mentioned by Richard Clarke in his memoirs as a second component of the ongoing NORAD exercise (Vigilant Guardian), possibly as the red team organizing the hijackings, real and fake. Details are hard to find and VW 01 is classified.

http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=vigilant_warrior

3: Operation Northern Vigilance:

Billed as a counter drill to an ongoing Russian drill, NV redeployed fighter planes to Alaska and northern Canada, stripping EC (eastern corridor) fighter cover just in time for 9/11. NORAD has not disclosed how many planes it removed from the contiguous US in time for 9/11 under the cover of NV.

"NORAD shall deploy fighter aircraft as necessary to FOLs (Forward Operating Locations) in Alaska and northern Canada to monitor a Russian air force exercise in the Russian arctic and North Pacific ocean. NORAD is the eyes and ears of North America and it is our mission to ensure that our air sovereignty is maintained"
Cheyenne Mountain AFS, Colorado.

http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=operation_northern_vigilance

4: Northern Guardian:

Thought to be associated with NV but outside of a few mentions in Canadian press not much is known. Possibly a twin exercise to NV to have one group of planes posing as the hostiles while the other played defense. Whatever the particulars this exercise seems to have been centered on Alaska and northern Canada as well.

http://www.911myths.com/html/operation_northern_guardian.html

Reference is from the detestable lie operation called 9/11 Myths, which like Wikipedia insists on calling the truth "myths", and the writer pretends not to understand that an exercise that moves planes to Iceland lowers response capabilities and is therefore relevant to 9/11. Intelligent people will have no problem understanding this point though.

5: National Reconnaissance Office Drill (NRO).

This drill simulated an airplane crashing into the NRO HQ in Virginia. As a consequence of this drill the NRO staff were evacuated from the building exactly when the 9/11 attacks occurred. This is the reason why the satelite surveillance of the attacks has not been made available. Allegedly there is none because of the NRO drill, and all space based surveillance was conveniently disabled in time for the 9/11 attacks.
AP reported: "Top US intelligence Agency was to simulate plane crash into government building on September 11 2001".
What an amazing coincidence...

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002-08-22-sept-11-plane-drill-_x.htm

6: Tripod II.

Biological warfare exercise conducted jointly between DoJ (Department of Justice, under the control of John Ashcroft, the man who lost an election to a dead guy) and the City of New York. Scheduled for 9/12 01 and officially never took place. Would have provided plausible cover for critical pre 9/11 activities in New York, such as rigging both towers and WTC 7 with explosives. Reported by Giuliani, the arch criminal, in his memoir "Leadership" (apparently the working title was "Treason" but was changed by the publisher). He stated that the "materials to be used in the drill" was stored at Pier 92, and that his command center was in WTC 7. As soon as WTC 7 was demolished Giuliani moved his treason command post (popularly known as the exercise command post or emergency management control center, but treason is more appropriate so I`ll stick with that) to Pier 92. Tripod II is the most glaringly obvious cover for the demolitions in NYC, the destruction of evidence following the attacks as well as the fake reporting afterwards to sell the official version. Technical, military, media, surveillance, detonations, police and firefighters could all have been, and probably were, controlled from Pier 92, under cover of Tripod II.

http://they-let-it-happen.blogspot.no/2006/11/three-legs-of-tripod.html

7: Amalgam Virgo:

Air defend against rogue state cruise missiles/hijackings. A probable cover for the attack on the Pentagon, which was originally billed as, and also looked like, a missile attack rather than a plane crash.

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20091106132538231

8: Amalgam Warrior:

Large air defense drill and air intercept, tracking and surveillance.  Possibly the red force for Amalgam Virgo, providing hijacked planes/missiles, real and false.

http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=amalgam_warrior

9: Global Guardian:

Armageddon exercise. Nuclear war drill directed toward the arctic and Russia, further depleting continental defenses in the USA. GG is likely to be the defensive component of Apollo Guardian, presumably poised to respond to a nuclear first strike (probably by Russia, but who knows with the Strangeloves in the Pentagon).

http://911review.org/brad.com/wargames/GlobalGuardian.html

10: Crown Vigilance:

Air combat command exercise.

http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=crown_vigilance

11: Apollo Guardian:

Large scale live fly air defense and air intercept, tracking and surveillance drill. Nuclear strike simulation. Possibly a component of Global Guardian, or a parallel exercise or red team threatening nuclear attack within the exercise scripting. Hints to a possible nuclear blackmail/nuclear first strike option having been built into the 9/11 exercise complex. Possibly the most ominous of all the drills I have listed, but also less revealing since no nuclear first strike occurred. Nuclear blackmail may have though, and the Bush-Putin phone call has never had its content disclosed at all, but has largely disappeared from the MSM coverage (surprise surprise).

http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=apollo_guardian



12: AWACS/Noble Eagle:

AWACS (Airborne Warning and Control System) drill over Washington DC and Florida.

http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a955awacs

AWACS planes may have been involved in all three alleged plane crashes. Reportedly AWACS can be fitted with remote control systems for taking over control of nearby planes. Wikipedia also states that Operation Noble Eagle went into effect on 9/11, and that it was somehow a success, despite the abject and total failure on every front by all involved on that day. Allegedly it involved using AWACS craft to "patrol and defend American Airspace". Cynics might consider this too little too late, but not Wikipedia... Whether Noble Eagle and the AWACS drill I just referenced were one and the same I haven`t been able to find out.

http://www.boeing.com/boeing/defense-space/ic/awacs/e3svcww/usnato.page

Unpiloted passenger planes in use in the UK, being controlled remotely from the ground.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2325263/Would-fly-plane-pilot-As-passenger-jet-controls-roars-Britain-passengers-soon-face-worrying-dilemma.html

The first trans Pacific remotely flown UAV was tested in April 2001 and was controlled from a distance by an AWACS aircraft.

http://www.spacedaily.com/news/uav-01d.html

My purpose with the links is to demonstrate that AWACS can be, is being and has for years been used to remotely control other aircraft, and that a large AWACS drill (or two) taking place on 9/11 is therefore a highly suspicious circumstance. It is not to have a long, meaningless technical debate about these aircrafts or any beneficial uses they may have.

13: Firemen (Pentagon)

"Aircraft crash refresher course" for firefighters. Scheduled for the morning of 9/11 in yet another amazing coincidence.

http://911blogger.com/node/16128

14: Timely Alert:

Emergency response to bomb attacks.

http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=timely_alert_ii


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NOTE: Many of these drills and exercises are annual "security", "intelligence" and "defense" events. What makes them suspicious with regard to 9/11 is firstly that the content of the 01 versions was apparently altered to closely resemble the attacks which actually occurred, or to sabotage air defense and surveillance, apparently on purpose. Secondly they were also all concentrated on and around this one date, which is atypical for annual drills, and indeed all drills, which tend to be separated in time to deal with isolated hypothesis and strategies. Pointing to the annual character of these drills therefore does nothing to counter the points I have raised.

These are the most relevant drills taking place on 9/11 itself, but there are others, depending on what you consider relevant. And if you include earlier exercises leading up to 9/11 there are almost 50 altogether, all dealing specifically with elements of the 9/11 attacks. A relatively exhaustive list by Webster Tarpley can be found here: http://coto2.wordpress.com/2011/08/27/the-46-drills-of-911-by-webster-tarpley/ for those who are interested in all of them. For those who want to really dig into this all important aspect of 9/11 I recommend any of Mike Ruppert`s many books, such as Crossing the Rubicon, or Webster Tarpley`s book 9/11 Synthetic Terror, Made in USA.
The obvious political point to make with all these conspicuous drills is to ask the hard questions we need to: If the official story is true, why were there all these drills more or less exactly like the actual attacks going on during the attacks, and/or which sabotaged regular, procedural emergency responses? How could the confused and disorganized boxcutter-wielding morons of the official version have known about all these drills in order to time their attacks accordingly? Why would the US government and national "security" state be so deliberately incompetent as to strip its own response capabilities and confuse emergency response personnel by concentrating so many drills on one day? Who did organize all this to coincide with the 9/11 attacks? Donald Rumsfeld? Dick Cheney? Karl Rove? General Myers? Rudolph Giuliani? John Ashcroft? George Bush 41 and 43? Benjamin Netanyahu? Richard Perle? General Schumacher? Richard Clarke? Condolezza Rice? Or was it possibly all of the above and more? Either way we need to know.


I apologize if people already knew this stuff, but I couldn`t find anything about the drills on the forum and thought I`d go over it again. Politically this is some of the most damning evidence available against the official myth of al Qaida and 9/11, which is why I think it`s being avoided like the plague by our debunker friends. Let`s shove it right back in their faces where it belongs! The only possible response from the naysayers is either denial or to try and sell this as some form of a massive coincidence. In both cases they have lost before the debate starts, and they know it. That`s why there are no debates about drills on these forums. The reality is that so many drills would NEVER have been arranged on the same day for reasons of security and defense integrity, and no other day in US history has such an amazing concentration of drills. When faced with this incredibly suspicious stuff, what does it even matter what fire does to steel, or whether there were planes or not? 9/11 was an inside job either way, and the drills prove it.
The very real political consequence of exposing the drills, as opposed to other aspects of 9/11, is that public awareness of them means that it will be close to impossible for the US government in particular, and NATO governments in general, to comfortably stage such an elaborate false flag again. They will be too scared to get caught again like they were on 9/11, and as a consequence they are restricted to small actions where the amount and size of the accompanying drills can be kept small enough to escape notice. In a very real way therefore we can save the public from really huge false flag events for a generation by focusing on the 9/11 drills, because they would be nearly impossible to conduit through the bureaucracy without multiple drills and exercises to camouflage them. Making the drills impossible therefore makes terrorism impossible. This makes it well worth our time and effort to all become drill watchers and to make sure as many people as possible know about the 9/11 drills. Above all the presence of drills before and during "terrorist" attacks is one of the clearest signs of a synthetic terrorist event, and indeed they were present in Boston, in London in 07, in Madrid in 05 and in Oklahoma City in 1995. No synthetic terrorism can be performed by NATO governments without drills to hide them from decent, if naive, people in the bureaucracy, and no propaganda can work on people who have noticed this connection between drills and terrorism

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mxFRigYD3s

The reporter was Jane Standley and here's a clip.

Building 7 is to our right of her.

bobbin wrote:

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mxFRigYD3s

The reporter was Jane Standley and here's a clip.

Building 7 is to our right of her.

Thanks NFWTD, memory shift I think re Jane Standley. However, I do remember a bit about Reuters providing the info, so maybe that bit has been cut from the broadcast. It still remains, the absolute lie to the whole event, that she is standing in front of the building and the BBC screen writes up, bold as brass, that building 7 has fallen when there it is, in broad daylight, still standing.

tigger wrote:Yes, there is a woman who's written a book about it. She's a scientist and convinced they used a 'new' explosive. the pulverisation of the concrete is off the charts for any known explosive.
Not only that,it was mixed with all the asbestos  which I understand is still claiming victims.

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Hmmm...there's very believable information elsewhere that he died in December 2001!