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Live - Rupert Murdoch and Rebekah Brooks face MPs

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Post by HotlipsHealy on Tue 19 Jul 2011 - 8:32

Rolling coverage of all the day's developments as Rupert Murdoch, his son James and Rebekah Brooks face MPs' questions over phone hacking


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Post by listener on Tue 19 Jul 2011 - 20:44

I can't quite remember the context, but I found it quite strange that Rebbeca Brooks mentioned Sarah, Holly and Jessica and then Milly in the same sentence - but no mention of Madeleine?
I have recently pondered as to why, at the beginning of this scandal, in Mitchels TV interview - where he stated that his phone was hacked (and possibly the McCanns) - was 'dropped' by the media almost instantaneously?
I thought, at the time I heard that statement (about ten days ago), that it would have been a huge story for the media to run with - but nothing?
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Post by Miraflores on Tue 19 Jul 2011 - 21:44

Rebbeca Brooks mentioned Sarah, Holly and Jessica and then Milly in the same sentence - but no mention of Madeleine?
Two reasons possibly: the press, for reasons best known to themselves, never print anything which is detrimental to the McCanns.
More likely reason: the other girls went missing at the time the phone hacking was at its height. Why would anyone want to hack the McCann's phones in 2003? They were just a GP and a heart specialist - no doubt considering themselves important, in the way that doctors tend to do - but not famous for losing a daughter until 4 years later.
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Post by listener on Tue 19 Jul 2011 - 22:11

@Miraflores wrote:
Rebbeca Brooks mentioned Sarah, Holly and Jessica and then Milly in the same sentence - but no mention of Madeleine?
Two reasons possibly: the press, for reasons best known to themselves, never print anything which is detrimental to the McCanns.
More likely reason: the other girls went missing at the time the phone hacking was at its height. Why would anyone want to hack the McCann's phones in 2003? They were just a GP and a heart specialist - no doubt considering themselves important, in the way that doctors tend to do - but not famous for losing a daughter until 4 years later.

Hi, I understood this hacking culture did indeed start in the early 2000's, or before, and the culture escalated through the decade until the recent publicity - so why miss out the McCanns (if they did), after all Mitchel claimed his was hacked but can't recall if he gave a timeline.
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Re: Live - Rupert Murdoch and Rebekah Brooks face MPs

Post by aiyoyo on Wed 20 Jul 2011 - 8:19

Listener
You are right the hack culture pre-dated Madeleine, so not hacking the mccanns really does seem strange.

The thing I find puzzling is if as Murdoch jr and Brooks claimed that apart from the two individuals prosecuted in 2007, they didn't know such a culture exists within NOTW. Brooks even testified at the hearing no one in their right mind would sanction that kind of action. They both claimed they heard it for first time two weeks ago when Milly Dowler story broke.

Murdoch and Brooks were singing from exactly the same hymn sheet- story synchronization - what does that say? Collusion? They seemed pretty confident investigator will not find evidence against them? Does that sound familiar?

NOTW employees had claimed Andy Coulson and Rebekah Brooks knew all along, and in fact Andy Coulson allegedly was encouraging them to adopt the company's culture. Between boss and employees we know which side is lying.
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Post by listener on Thu 21 Jul 2011 - 0:50

@aiyoyo wrote:
NOTW employees had claimed Andy Coulson and Rebekah Brooks knew all along, and in fact Andy Coulson allegedly was encouraging them to adopt the company's culture.

Hi, Can you give me a source for that sentence?

I would wish that someone would speak, but I guess they must put their jobs & pensions first!
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Post by aiyoyo on Thu 21 Jul 2011 - 6:27

@listener wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:
NOTW employees had claimed Andy Coulson and Rebekah Brooks knew all along, and in fact Andy Coulson allegedly was encouraging them to adopt the company's culture.

Hi, Can you give me a source for that sentence?

I would wish that someone would speak, but I guess they must put their jobs & pensions first!

Listener,

I have read numerous articles from online UK tabloids and have seen it in some articles.
Cant remember which one exactly now. If I come across it during my google search I will post it up.
But it was definitely in some articles employees saying Coulson and Brooks knew about it and in fact it was reported someone actually said Coulson encouraged it.

The thing is their jobs are gone now and their pensions have nothing to do with the company anymore.
I thought pensions are managed by a fund, a separate entity from the company, and pensions contributed throughout the past belong to the employees regardless.

I think ex employees are banking on investigators finding evidence against Coulson and Brooks, and should evidence be destroyed and investigators found nothing, don't be surprised disgruntled ex employees will come forward with their story. Now that James Murdoch was cornered at the hearing to terminate legal fee payments for Mulcaire..and if Mulcaire is left to sink and forced into a corner...wait till he sings.

He'd over 4000 people on his hit lists covering which period no one knows. Did it cover the decade or only last few years.
What would be interesting to know is who in NOTW had provided him the names to target and how he was paid. If he was left penniless as well as left to sink in mounting legal fee he might sell his story for a few bob. Surely other tabloid would jump at the chance of his exclusive or even offer to cover his legal cost.
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Re: Live - Rupert Murdoch and Rebekah Brooks face MPs

Post by Willo on Thu 21 Jul 2011 - 6:58

There is no way the McCanns would not have been hacked if indeed hacking was taking place . Of all the people in the UK Kate, Gerry and the tapas mob, Mitchell , financial backers, in fact anyone connected to the Madeliene fiasco would have been prime targets.

Reasons why the McCanns are silent currently could be that the Hackers were told that the McCanns were off limits at the start. This order maybe was followed out of fear of exposure of their previous wrong doings or even threats of violence. This senario shows that someone in the McCann camp or someone with some clout or both had prior knowledge that wholesale hacking was going on. Thus they have nothing to be worried about.

Or maybe the McCanns along with a few others are staying quiet hoping that records of their calls are never made public. Hoping it will all go away .


Maybe false sugary transcripts have already been created and swapped for the originals and they have nothing to fear from this investigation.


Or maybe they are just innocent.................. but if they were, wouldn't they be following up every lead trying to prove they have been hacked knowing that their transcripts would go a part of the way to showing their innocence.

Whatever the reason for the silence I do find it strange that the McCanns haven't hijacked this story like they have most others most that gave even less credibility to their cause.
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Re: Live - Rupert Murdoch and Rebekah Brooks face MPs

Post by Gillyspot on Thu 21 Jul 2011 - 7:03

I have a small point regarding interviews of the Murdoch's and also Rebekah Brooks. The Committee continually let them say they had no knowledge of "illegal voicemail interception" and not "hacking". These are not actually exactly the same as hacking involves more illegal information gathering.

As per Channel 4 in June

"The Metropolitan Police's investigation into hacking has widened from allegations of voicemail interception to that of emails and computer files, Channel 4 News has learned."

http://www.channel4.com/news/new-met-hacking-investigation-into-computer-interception

Rebekah Brooks at one point actually seemed to start saying "ha" i e hacking then changed to "illegal voicemail interceptions".

I have tweeted this to Tom Watson and also several political journalists but have had no response.

I felt from the coverage that the Murdoch 3 were allowed not to answer the harder questions and James particulary was allowed to blather on and on too much. Also there wasn't any streamlined questioning unlike Keith Vaz's Committee interviewing the Met Police cheifs.

I know that John Whittingdale is "allegedly" Facebook friend with Rebekah Brooks & Les Hinton. So surely he shouldn't have been on the committee let alone the chair of it.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/john-whittingdale-i-am-not-too-close-to-murdochs-2315410.html

At least though David Cameron yesterday stated that the review will "take itself where it will" and will cover all aspects of hacking but he even had to be prompted by another minister to say this.

Does anyone else have any thoughts.

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Re: Live - Rupert Murdoch and Rebekah Brooks face MPs

Post by Guest on Thu 21 Jul 2011 - 7:59

@Willo wrote:There is no way the McCanns would not have been hacked if indeed hacking was taking place . Of all the people in the UK Kate, Gerry and the tapas mob, Mitchell , financial backers, in fact anyone connected to the Madeliene fiasco would have been prime targets.

Precisely. Even if Mitchell thinks they were officially off bounds, somebody out there will have something on them. For them it's the golden ticket.
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Post by Guest on Fri 3 Feb 2012 - 19:46

I guess this is not the same Rubert Murdoc? Sorry, Im from outbroad and just reasently started to read this topics....Sorry if the question is dumb...

http://eu.techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/Screen-shot-2011-07-18-at-22.42.56.png
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Post by Ross on Fri 3 Feb 2012 - 20:59

Moa wrote:I guess this is not the same Rubert Murdoc? Sorry, Im from outbroad and just reasently started to read this topics....Sorry if the question is dumb...

http://eu.techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/Screen-shot-2011-07-18-at-22.42.56.png

Hi Moa

That page was a spoof, a satire. Rupert Murdoch is still alive.
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Post by Guest on Fri 3 Feb 2012 - 21:34

@Ross wrote:
Moa wrote:I guess this is not the same Rubert Murdoc? Sorry, Im from outbroad and just reasently started to read this topics....Sorry if the question is dumb...

http://eu.techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/Screen-shot-2011-07-18-at-22.42.56.png

Hi Moa

That page was a spoof, a satire. Rupert Murdoch is still alive.

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