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Did Madeleine have coloboma?

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Re: Did Madeleine have coloboma?

Post by Guest on 04.06.11 12:57

@LittleMissMolly wrote:
candyfloss wrote:
It makes it difficult to believe them though doesn't it, so many changing stories and excuses ...................

1. Used keys to enter apartment - then they didn't

2. First doors were locked - then they weren't

3. Windows jemmied, shutters forced - then they weren't

4. Cuddlecat placed on high shelf - then it wasn't it was on the bed

5. Madeleine was in bed - then she was lying on top

6. Not aware of being watched, it felt safe - then they were

7. Children weren't drugged - then they were.



Just a few that come to mind - please feel free to add more.

Madeleine had a coloboma - and now she doesn't lol!



Have now started a thread on the changing stories, so as to keep this one on topic.
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Re: Did Madeleine have coloboma?

Post by Me on 04.06.11 13:07

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@Garth wrote:Hang on a minute

Its YOU who has a closed mind and won't accept the points I've raised.

So you cannot accept my ideas.

Lets look at your 'alternative reason' and see how that stacks up........should be fun!


No not at all closed. You'll remember when i entered this forum, i asked you to make me believe in your theory, didn't i? You do remember that don't you?

You spectacularly failed to put any kind of credible evidence backed theory forward which carried any kind of weight to most normal people.

So based on the evidence before us and given the investigation is at this stage incomplete, (due to the Tapas 9 refusing to answer questions let's not forget) i agree at this stage with the two police inspectors (not just your anti-christ Amaral) and the interim report author (Tavaral i think he's called) who believe the child had an accidental death and her body was disposed of by her parents.

Whereas you believe good old Kate & Gerry.
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It makes it difficult to believe them though doesn't it, so many changing stories and excuses ...................

1. Used keys to enter apartment - then they didn't

2. First doors were locked - then they weren't

3. Windows jemmied, shutters forced - then they weren't

4. Cuddlecat placed on high shelf - then it wasn't it was on the bed

5. Madeleine was in bed - then she was lying on top

6. Not aware of being watched, it felt safe - then they were

7. Children weren't drugged - then they were.



Just a few that come to mind - please feel free to add more.

They were just "mistaken" weren't they Garth?

Don't worry about that Garth me old mucker, i'll come onto that one when i have more time. I haven't forgotten about it love.

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Re: Did Madeleine have coloboma?

Post by lj on 04.06.11 13:19

candyfloss wrote:
@LittleMissMolly wrote:
candyfloss wrote:
It makes it difficult to believe them though doesn't it, so many changing stories and excuses ...................

1. Used keys to enter apartment - then they didn't

2. First doors were locked - then they weren't

3. Windows jemmied, shutters forced - then they weren't

4. Cuddlecat placed on high shelf - then it wasn't it was on the bed

5. Madeleine was in bed - then she was lying on top

6. Not aware of being watched, it felt safe - then they were

7. Children weren't drugged - then they were.



Just a few that come to mind - please feel free to add more.

Madeleine had a coloboma - and now she doesn't lol!



Have now started a thread on the changing stories, so as to keep this one on topic.

Thank you candyfloss, because as usual garth has derailed another subject.

He does not know a coloboma froma fleck and gives doctored photos as proof.

The fact is that both parents carried on a campaign were the coloboma was the distinguishing factor. They even placed a request for help in the Lancet. Now why would parents of a missing girl introduce a distinguishing factor that the child NOT has. The only possibilities are

1 They know she can't be found.
2 They don't want her to be found.


Missing a diagnosis is bad for a doctor, but making up one, especially for financial gain, is worse.

And now they are also lying about the importance of this distinguishing factor.

Why do they lie?

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Confusion is good

Post by Guest on 04.06.11 13:33

it's clear that Garth and Gerry both share the above opinion. I think that Garth would be more at home on the Justice for the McCanns website (which aims to protect them from the likes of we nasty people who don't believe them) but he is providing a useful service here in enabling more and more information to come out which explains exactly why we don't believe the Gruesome Twosome.

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Re: Did Madeleine have coloboma?

Post by Me on 04.06.11 13:54

@Garth wrote:
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Like I have just said, I doubt for one minute it was a spur of the moment snatch. It does NOT mean they were watching the McCanns every move. They may have just known a child was left alone from a previous break in attempt.

My original point was to the post ME, who couldnt understand why the abductor would walk across the top road in view of someone making a check.

Had they not known about all these checks but knew about the girl being left alone, then going across the top road is feesible, as its the quickest way to get her out of sight and away from the complex from which she was snatched.

HALELLUJAH!

First of all do you mean " i doubt for one minute", or do you mean "i don't doubt for one minute."

You said the former but your sentence implies the latter.

Please clarify so we know where you stand.

As i have constantly told you you only want to shoot down onther people's theories in order to divert attention away from you own crackpot ideas which when exposed to scrutiny show you up for the nut job you are.

So we've now got paedos, theives, abductors (any more i've missed out, little green men perhaps) all intent on taking a little girl (not the twins) and not taking any possesions or vaulables (well apart from the next day when they seem to have returned and taken the blue tennis bag and Gerry's Chinos), nor distubring any valuables, searching in drawers, suitcases etc.

Some burglars eh?

So they could have known a child was there from a PREVIOUS break in attempt? You're suggesting now it's possible someone tried to get in previously?

Evidence to support this please. Indeed evidence to support the second "succesful" attempt?

It was a spur of the moment snatch? What in a 5, 10 or 15 minute window? Wow, that's lucky isnt it? Good timing as well if they weren't watching. How would they know there'd be no parents there or due to come if they weren't checking? Big risk to take that isn't it?

So they knew she was alone but didn't know when she would be left alone, or how often her parents checked on her? Not really feasible is it?

They managed to work out the patio was unlocked, get in and out without swithcing lights on or off, without dsturbing anything and leaving no trace anywhere? Not really feasible is it?

How did they get her out and where and what's your evidence to support this nonesene.

Please stop i'm in stitches here. I've never heard such fanciful, impossible and unsupported drivel in all my life.

Sweet baby Jesus.

You really believe this s**t???


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Post by rose58 on 04.06.11 14:41

There is no proof of any abductor apart frommccann hearsay and having read lots of stuff err on the side of staging after a death, nothing to suggest otherwise, plenty to suggest it was
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Madeleine's no colombo daily mail photograph

Post by joan thomas on 06.08.11 10:02

In Daily Mail newspaper August 6th 2007 Madeleine's photograph was published

under the heading Murat in clear.

Madeleine has NO DEFECT IN HER EYE!

I have blown this photograph up on the PC and on zoom camera levels

Madeleine's eye is clear as a bell but you can notice the difference in

eye colour between her two eyes.

Her right eye is clear as cut glass in this photograph or at least the copy I have.

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Re: Did Madeleine have coloboma?

Post by Guest on 07.08.11 11:06

Hadn't seen this before, just seen it posted on MM

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Re: Did Madeleine have coloboma?

Post by ROSA on 07.08.11 11:10

ooops
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Re: Did Madeleine have coloboma?

Post by Tinkerbell81 on 07.08.11 11:32

Funny thing is that in her book pictures Madeleine has the colomboma in each and every pic (I just cant speak for the pic supposedly taken one week before they left because there Madeleine looks down)

One thing bothered me maybe lost in translation (Im sure it is): in the Dutch version there are pics of sean on a swing (?) laughing with underneath a girl lying on Kate's chest, facing the camera. That girl clearly has a colomboma yet the pic is captured "with the coming of Sean and Amelie (left and below) our family was complete"

Im a lousy conspiracy theorist I think... slip up of the translator?
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Re: Did Madeleine have coloboma?

Post by ROSA on 07.08.11 12:12

Who is Madeleine and Maddie McCann ? aaaah
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Re: Did Madeleine have coloboma?

Post by lj on 07.08.11 13:45

@Tinkerbell81 wrote:Funny thing is that in her book pictures Madeleine has the colomboma in each and every pic (I just cant speak for the pic supposedly taken one week before they left because there Madeleine looks down)

One thing bothered me maybe lost in translation (Im sure it is): in the Dutch version there are pics of sean on a swing (?) laughing with underneath a girl lying on Kate's chest, facing the camera. That girl clearly has a colomboma yet the pic is captured "with the coming of Sean and Amelie (left and below) our family was complete"

Im a lousy conspiracy theorist I think... slip up of the translator?

Or a lousy photoshopper, who thought it was Madeleine.

Could you please post the photo here (scan it or take a photo from it)?

ETA: we know that at least in some photos the coloboma is photoshopped in or at the least "adhanced".

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Re: Did Madeleine have coloboma?

Post by crispyroll on 07.08.11 16:43

I have just found this:
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/LOOK+INTO+HER+EYES%3B+EXCLUSIVE+Madeleine+parents+pray+this+photo+of...-a0163297873

"Gerry's brother John McCann, 48, said: "They might have changed her appearance, dyed her hair or cut it but there is one thing they cannot change because Madeleine has one incredibly distinct feature - she has big blue eyes but in her right eye her pupil has a streak of black which juts out into her iris.
"It runs from her pupil into her iris at the bottom of her pupil. Whoever has her cannot hide or cover that up."

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Post by Gillyspot on 07.08.11 17:04

Welcome to the forum Crispyroll and what a post to start with!

How true. The PJ didn't want Madeleine's birthmark and her eye defect made known but as usually the McCanns' knew better "a good marketing ploy" - if "risky".

How to guarantee that if someone actually "had" abducted her that she wouldn't be found alive.

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Re: Did Madeleine have coloboma?

Post by Guest on 07.08.11 18:42

hi and welcome2 crispyroll
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Re: Did Madeleine have coloboma?

Post by crispyroll on 07.08.11 18:57

Thank you very much for the welcome!

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LOOK

Post by ROSA on 08.08.11 0:29

SY need to see the video
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Re: Did Madeleine have coloboma?

Post by Tinkerbell81 on 08.08.11 10:16

I dont have a scanner but I found a version of the pic online, allbeit a bit small. I'll get a bigger one if needed:



Nevermind, found the bigger one:

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Re: Did Madeleine have coloboma?

Post by ROSA on 08.08.11 10:50

Look at this photo Tinkerbell81
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Re: Did Madeleine have coloboma?

Post by Guest on 08.08.11 11:09



Looks like she's got the coloboma in this pic.
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Re: Did Madeleine have coloboma?

Post by Guest on 08.08.11 11:14

Yes, at the 6 o'clock position. If you look at all the other images, it ranges from 6 o'clock to 8 o'clock.

Coloboma's do not move. Which means at least some of them have been fabricated. Perhaps all ?
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Post by Tinkerbell81 on 08.08.11 11:20

A colomboma is easily made/removed IMO, anyone with average photshop skills can make all the eye changes he/she wants. The question remains WHY???

One other thing, where and when did Gerry say that about the marketing ploy???? The quote that is also in the scrolling messages on the mainpage I mean, "knew it was dangerous but it was good marketing"
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Post by Guest on 08.08.11 11:42

@Tinkerbell81 wrote:A colomboma is easily made/removed IMO, anyone with average photshop skills can make all the eye changes he/she wants. The question remains WHY???

The 'all seeing eye' and in a position of the 33rd degree, is a masonic thing. Perhaps they were hoping for recognition?
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Post by Guest on 10.08.11 18:40

Never seen this video before. Jon Corner and poster campaign, featuring the LOOK posters and the eye.

Notice he says We wanna drip? (think that's what he says) this out over the next few months. Strange thing to say over the next few months, Madeleine could have been found next day?



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Those long term plans again

Post by Guest on 10.08.11 18:53

I wonder if anyone in Team McCann ever had hopes that Madeleine could be found at any moment? Answers please on the back of a postage stamp.
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