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One coherent theory apart from abduction

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Re: One coherent theory apart from abduction

Post by aiyoyo on 03.01.10 16:35

@vaguely wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:What about one coherent reason to support abduction instead?

No one has seen any even in the investigators files but plenty of other circumstantial evidence supporting an altenative thesis!

Aiyoyo, I've never seen a coherent explanation of events that night - either for abduction or for parental involvement.

I've seen a huge jumbled mess of theories, all of which rely on made up bits in the middle and the writing off of parts of evidence in the files.

That's all there is.

Quoting you "I've never seen a coherent..........." that applies only to you yeah?

So the Official Police Officer report that she is dead and more were merely jumble mess to you yeah ?

So the official process files protraying the evasive bunch with their inconsistent timeline and answers were tosh to you yeah?

Eh, what about the Attorney General's closing statement that Maddie is likely dead? Also jumble mess of bits here and there to you yeah?

Just so that those people who were not born yesterday know yeah!

Others like myself begs to differ if you dont mind - if nothing else, there was truckful loads of circumstantial evidence contrary to abduction!

cite one coherent reason supporting abduction:-
would it be when GM sensed someone was in the room yet continued to exit,
would it when ROB didnt peep in but listened at the door,
would it be the phantom got the key from under the flowerpot or the maid?
would it be the door was a sesame yo yo - open and shut at will that her parents couldn't even given a straight answer; or
would it be shutter was jemmied (with Kate's finger marks) or
would it be the 'classical' ie 'they've taken her' or ... ?

The inconsistencies are sufficient to form encyclopedia volumes .........meanwhile the abductor/s didnt leave signature/s - SPECTACULAR indeed!
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Re: One coherent theory apart from abduction

Post by aiyoyo on 03.01.10 16:40

@DCB1 wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:What about one coherent reason to support abduction instead?

No one has seen any even in the investigators files but plenty of other circumstantial evidence supporting an altenative thesis!

That was the reason for this thread - to see if there was just one coherent theory apart from abduction.

I have yet to hear one to consider and discuss.

Well, that may be you yeah?

But the official investigators listed one alternative thesis and plenty people have seen it.

It seems some people have eyes sans pupil - tant pis!
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Re: One coherent theory apart from abduction

Post by DCB1 on 03.01.10 16:43

How did it happen then?[i]

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Re: One coherent theory apart from abduction

Post by DCB1 on 03.01.10 16:45

(why is the thread now in italics again????)

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Re: One coherent theory apart from abduction

Post by aiyoyo on 03.01.10 16:58

@DCB1 wrote:How did it happen then?[i]

How did what happen? Abduction?

Could it be - it DIDN'T happen, hence no 'how' - simple as that
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Re: One coherent theory apart from abduction

Post by DCB1 on 03.01.10 17:00

@aiyoyo wrote:
@DCB1 wrote:How did it happen then?[i]

How did what happen? Abduction?

Could it be - it DIDN'T happen, hence no 'how' - simple as that

No - this thread is about a theory apart from abduction. It was you that said there is an alternative thesis.

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Re: One coherent theory apart from abduction

Post by aiyoyo on 03.01.10 17:01

@DCB1 wrote:(why is the thread now in italics again????)

[For the New Black according to one poster (can't recall name)]!
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Re: One coherent theory apart from abduction

Post by DCB1 on 03.01.10 17:02

@aiyoyo wrote:
@DCB1 wrote:(why is the thread now in italics again????)

[For the New Black according to one poster (can't recall name)]!

It happened after you posted in italics.

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Re: One coherent theory apart from abduction

Post by aiyoyo on 03.01.10 17:03

@DCB1 wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:
@DCB1 wrote:How did it happen then?[i]

How did what happen? Abduction?

Could it be - it DIDN'T happen, hence no 'how' - simple as that

No - this thread is about a theory apart from abduction. It was you that said there is an alternative thesis.

Oh, you mean you missed the obvious "Tavares' Report" or plain refusal to acknowledge it?
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Re: One coherent theory apart from abduction

Post by aiyoyo on 03.01.10 17:04

@DCB1 wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:
@DCB1 wrote:(why is the thread now in italics again????)

[For the New Black according to one poster (can't recall name)]!

It happened after you posted in italics.

Oh! apologies. It's easier for differentiation imho.
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Re: One coherent theory apart from abduction

Post by DCB1 on 03.01.10 17:06

@aiyoyo wrote:
@DCB1 wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:
@DCB1 wrote:How did it happen then?[i]

How did what happen? Abduction?

Could it be - it DIDN'T happen, hence no 'how' - simple as that

No - this thread is about a theory apart from abduction. It was you that said there is an alternative thesis.

Oh, you mean you missed the obvious "Tavares' Report" or plain refusal to acknowledge it?

I have read and fully acknowledge the first interim report.

I have also read the second interim report.

The final summary by the PJ.

And the archiving despatch by the PP/AG.

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Re: One coherent theory apart from abduction

Post by aiyoyo on 03.01.10 17:08

@DCB1 wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:
@DCB1 wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:
@DCB1 wrote:How did it happen then?[i]

How did what happen? Abduction?

Could it be - it DIDN'T happen, hence no 'how' - simple as that

No - this thread is about a theory apart from abduction. It was you that said there is an alternative thesis.

Oh, you mean you missed the obvious "Tavares' Report" or plain refusal to acknowledge it?

I have read and fully acknowledge the first interim report.

I have also read the second interim report.

The final summary by the PJ.

And the archiving despatch by the PP/AG.

And, the closing statement by PP/AG - ie that Maddie is likely dead? Which incidentally her parents did not object!
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Re: One coherent theory apart from abduction

Post by DCB1 on 03.01.10 17:09

@aiyoyo wrote:
@DCB1 wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:
@DCB1 wrote:(why is the thread now in italics again????)

[For the New Black according to one poster (can't recall name)]!

It happened after you posted in italics.

Oh! apologies. It's easier for differentiation imho.

I think you must be changing some global setting rather than just highlighting the text you want in italics and clicking the I button.

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Re: One coherent theory apart from abduction

Post by DCB1 on 03.01.10 17:10

@aiyoyo wrote:
@DCB1 wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:
@DCB1 wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:
@DCB1 wrote:How did it happen then?[i]

How did what happen? Abduction?

Could it be - it DIDN'T happen, hence no 'how' - simple as that

No - this thread is about a theory apart from abduction. It was you that said there is an alternative thesis.

Oh, you mean you missed the obvious "Tavares' Report" or plain refusal to acknowledge it?

I have read and fully acknowledge the first interim report.

I have also read the second interim report.

The final summary by the PJ.

And the archiving despatch by the PP/AG.

And, the closing statement by PP/AG - ie that Maddie is likely dead? Which incidentally her parents did not object!

More likely dead is in fact stated - by who hands is not stated.

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Re: One coherent theory apart from abduction

Post by Old Nick on 03.01.10 17:13

Did Tavares put forward a coherent theory in his Interim report? I would LOVE to read it. Can anyone reproduce it here please?

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Re: One coherent theory apart from abduction

Post by DCB1 on 03.01.10 17:17

@Old Nick wrote:Did Tavares put forward a coherent theory in his Interim report? I would LOVE to read it. Can anyone reproduce it here please?

See GAs book.

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Re: One coherent theory apart from abduction

Post by Guest on 03.01.10 17:19

@DCB1 wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:
@DCB1 wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:
@DCB1 wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:
@DCB1 wrote:How did it happen then?[i]

How did what happen? Abduction?

Could it be - it DIDN'T happen, hence no 'how' - simple as that

No - this thread is about a theory apart from abduction. It was you that said there is an alternative thesis.

Oh, you mean you missed the obvious "Tavares' Report" or plain refusal to acknowledge it?

I have read and fully acknowledge the first interim report.

I have also read the second interim report.

The final summary by the PJ.

And the archiving despatch by the PP/AG.

And, the closing statement by PP/AG - ie that Maddie is likely dead? Which incidentally her parents did not object!

More likely dead is in fact stated - by who hands is not stated.


So why are they suing Mr.Amaral if that is what is stated. The reason they give is that people will not search if they think she is dead??
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Re: One coherent theory apart from abduction

Post by Old Nick on 03.01.10 17:20

Is there a coherent theory in Dr Amaral's book?

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Re: One coherent theory apart from abduction

Post by aiyoyo on 03.01.10 17:21

@DCB1 wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:
@DCB1 wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:
@DCB1 wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:
@DCB1 wrote:How did it happen then?[i]

How did what happen? Abduction?

Could it be - it DIDN'T happen, hence no 'how' - simple as that

No - this thread is about a theory apart from abduction. It was you that said there is an alternative thesis.

Oh, you mean you missed the obvious "Tavares' Report" or plain refusal to acknowledge it?

I have read and fully acknowledge the first interim report.

I have also read the second interim report.

The final summary by the PJ.

And the archiving despatch by the PP/AG.

And, the closing statement by PP/AG - ie that Maddie is likely dead? Which incidentally her parents did not object!

More likely dead is in fact stated - by who hands is not stated.

That's true, but without irrefutable evidence on the suspected parents, the PP/AG would be stupid to spoil their position with further inclusion comment. What else is in the unreleased files no one knows but a larger propotion was held back.

Since her parents were last persons with her and with absolutely no evidence whatsoever to support abduction, which way can people deduce? It's inevitable where the answer fells, not saying it's absolute, but pretty high percentage!
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Re: One coherent theory apart from abduction

Post by DCB1 on 03.01.10 17:24

candyfloss wrote:
@DCB1 wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:
@DCB1 wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:
@DCB1 wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:
@DCB1 wrote:How did it happen then?[i]

How did what happen? Abduction?

Could it be - it DIDN'T happen, hence no 'how' - simple as that

No - this thread is about a theory apart from abduction. It was you that said there is an alternative thesis.

Oh, you mean you missed the obvious "Tavares' Report" or plain refusal to acknowledge it?

I have read and fully acknowledge the first interim report.

I have also read the second interim report.

The final summary by the PJ.

And the archiving despatch by the PP/AG.

And, the closing statement by PP/AG - ie that Maddie is likely dead? Which incidentally her parents did not object!

More likely dead is in fact stated - by who hands is not stated.


So why are they suing Mr.Amaral if that is what is stated. The reason they give is that people will not search if they think she is dead??

How many interviews did GA do (and in fact is still doing) for the press and on TV? Did GA not make a documentary for TV?

I don't recall the Portuguese authorities repeating the same things over and over again week and week.

I don't recall the Portuguese authorities making an official documentary for TV.

And who knows - after GA maybe the authorities are next?

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Re: One coherent theory apart from abduction

Post by DCB1 on 03.01.10 17:26

@aiyoyo wrote:
@DCB1 wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:
@DCB1 wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:
@DCB1 wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:
@DCB1 wrote:How did it happen then?[i]

How did what happen? Abduction?

Could it be - it DIDN'T happen, hence no 'how' - simple as that

No - this thread is about a theory apart from abduction. It was you that said there is an alternative thesis.

Oh, you mean you missed the obvious "Tavares' Report" or plain refusal to acknowledge it?

I have read and fully acknowledge the first interim report.

I have also read the second interim report.

The final summary by the PJ.

And the archiving despatch by the PP/AG.

And, the closing statement by PP/AG - ie that Maddie is likely dead? Which incidentally her parents did not object!

More likely dead is in fact stated - by who hands is not stated.

That's true, but without irrefutable evidence on the suspected parents, the PP/AG would be stupid to spoil their position with further inclusion comment. What else is in the unreleased files no one knows but a larger propotion was held back.

Since her parents were last persons with her and with absolutely no evidence whatsoever to support abduction, which way can people deduce? It's inevitable where the answer fells, not saying it's absolute, but pretty high percentage!

Apparently not a high enough percentage to take them to court and secure a conviction. I know what I deduce from that - that there may be a chance that something else really did happen.

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Re: One coherent theory apart from abduction

Post by Guest on 03.01.10 17:28

As is usual, no one has come up with a plausible theory as to how the McCanns accidentally killed their daughter and what they did afterwards.
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Re: One coherent theory apart from abduction

Post by aiyoyo on 03.01.10 17:59

[quote="DCB1]

Apparently not a high enough percentage to take them to court and secure a conviction. I know what I deduce from that - that there may be a chance that something else really did happen.[/quote]

Like what? Not going to chant the same abduction mantra are you?

Where is one coherent reason?
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Re: One coherent theory apart from abduction

Post by Autumn on 03.01.10 18:01

@aiyoyo wrote:What about one coherent reason to support abduction instead?

No one has seen any even in the investigators files but plenty of other circumstantial evidence supporting an altenative thesis!


Exactly, the heading of this thread is mis-leading - not one scrap of evidence to support the abduction theory, I would believe that the moon is made of cheese and fairies dance nightly at the bottom of my garden before believing the McCanns' version of events. However, I have read much that has convinced me that an abduction could not have happened and it, imo, cannot be considered a logical theory.

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Re: One coherent theory apart from abduction

Post by DCB1 on 03.01.10 18:02

@aiyoyo wrote:[quote="DCB1]

Apparently not a high enough percentage to take them to court and secure a conviction. I know what I deduce from that - that there may be a chance that something else really did happen.

Like what? Not going to chant the same abduction mantra are you?

Where is one coherent reason?[/quote]

Read the thread title. If you don't want to discuss it - then don't.

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