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Post by pauline on 21.08.11 15:30

@tigger wrote:http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Dt3aEQy4rKc/S9r0BB4QqNI/AAAAAAAAAsU/9vbV1yYg7Yg/s1600/pic1a.JPG&imgrefurl=http://textusa.blogspot.com/2010/05/eastenders-westenders-noenders.html&usg=__9wln8ElJuH4OhYK4_Vx5KMrBO-k=&h=694&w=1076&sz=147&hl=en&start=45&zoom=1&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=Pv6tzxboVozSVM:&tbnh=97&tbnw=150&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dmillenium%2Brestaurant%2Bpraia%2Bmccann%26start%3D36%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26ndsp%3D18%26tbm%3Disch&ei=4_pQTvuxM4qbOru_4PcG

Wow! this is quite a long link, hope this works. It's from textusa. Really interesting post wondering why they went to the Millenium at all? Everything else was actually closer, but it seems they don't want us to look in that direction.
I tried to copy and paste the whole article, but it seems rather a lot. If this link doesn't work, let me know and I'll try to correct it. It's well worth a read!

I just read this very long article. She queries why they went to the Millenium the first night (tapas was closed) given that there were many and nearer alternatives. she also suggests they did not always go to the tapas bar for dinner on the nights it was open and mentions some alternatives.

But what she doesn't say is that the McCanns were on a holiday package with Mark Warner where dinner was included if you ate at the Millenium or at the Tapas Bar So why would you eat at other restaurants and pay for a dinner?

I can understand that towards the end of the holiday you might be bored with the limited choice of restaurant for dinner, and you might go to a different one
and pay. the mcCanns seem very money minded. They won't pay for babysitters. Their children (allegedly) share toothbrushes. I do not think they would want to pay on the double for dinner and drinks when their package included dinner.
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Post by lj on 21.08.11 15:38

I agree Stella, as a matter of fact last night I wrote a post along those line, candyfloss, and I can find it nowhere now?? Even if I look at all my post in my profile. Mysterious.
Anyway the line of thought in my post was this:
Kate does not need a reason to lie, she is a pathological liar, who will lie just for the heck of it. Often it is however to make her look better. Here she is attemting to show it was for the sake of the children they did not go to the millenium.
The workers though have no reason to lie, especially not 6 of them.

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Post by tigger on 21.08.11 15:47

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@tigger wrote:http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Dt3aEQy4rKc/S9r0BB4QqNI/AAAAAAAAAsU/9vbV1yYg7Yg/s1600/pic1a.JPG&imgrefurl=http://textusa.blogspot.com/2010/05/eastenders-westenders-noenders.html&usg=__9wln8ElJuH4OhYK4_Vx5KMrBO-k=&h=694&w=1076&sz=147&hl=en&start=45&zoom=1&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=Pv6tzxboVozSVM:&tbnh=97&tbnw=150&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dmillenium%2Brestaurant%2Bpraia%2Bmccann%26start%3D36%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26ndsp%3D18%26tbm%3Disch&ei=4_pQTvuxM4qbOru_4PcG

Wow! this is quite a long link, hope this works. It's from textusa. Really interesting post wondering why they went to the Millenium at all? Everything else was actually closer, but it seems they don't want us to look in that direction.
I tried to copy and paste the whole article, but it seems rather a lot. If this link doesn't work, let me know and I'll try to correct it. It's well worth a read!


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I can understand that towards the end of the holiday you might be bored with the limited choice of restaurant for dinner, and you might go to a different one
and pay. the mcCanns seem very money minded. They won't pay for babysitters. Their children (allegedly) share toothbrushes. I do not think they would want to pay on the double for dinner and drinks when their package included dinner.

But they would likely have gone to Chaplin's for drinks (happy hour) - anyway, this is nothing to do with dinner, but with misdirection. They didn't want us to know that they knew the area.
I think Mrs. Fenn's daughter or somebody from MW went to see them one night at Chaplin's because the children were crying.

IMO the decoy abductor - Gerry with one of the twins went down this way on the 3rd,( Smiths' sighting) probably came back via the beach. There was a sighting of a man with a child around that time by the pizza man. Which he reported to Michael Wright, who did not pass this on to the police.
I think the daughter of the pizza man told the police at a later date.
Gerry for one is likely to have known the area fairly well, he'd been on weekend golfing holidays.

Most likely, having booked, they were at the Tapas for dinner each evening, seems quite normal to go on to a bar for cheap drinks afterwards.
The not paying of babysitters and the family toothbrush are IMO also nothing to do with money, but with the abduction having to be arranged.
In any case, they had to pay for drinks at least, even if dinner was included.

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Post by tigger on 21.08.11 15:51

Molly wrote:Does anyone know where on this map the Millennium Restaurant is?

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Near the blue pool at the top right, I believe. But I've just posted an article from textusa, which gives you much better maps.
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Post by Daisy on 21.08.11 16:10

@pauline wrote:
@tigger wrote:http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Dt3aEQy4rKc/S9r0BB4QqNI/AAAAAAAAAsU/9vbV1yYg7Yg/s1600/pic1a.JPG&imgrefurl=http://textusa.blogspot.com/2010/05/eastenders-westenders-noenders.html&usg=__9wln8ElJuH4OhYK4_Vx5KMrBO-k=&h=694&w=1076&sz=147&hl=en&start=45&zoom=1&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=Pv6tzxboVozSVM:&tbnh=97&tbnw=150&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dmillenium%2Brestaurant%2Bpraia%2Bmccann%26start%3D36%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26ndsp%3D18%26tbm%3Disch&ei=4_pQTvuxM4qbOru_4PcG

Wow! this is quite a long link, hope this works. It's from textusa. Really interesting post wondering why they went to the Millenium at all? Everything else was actually closer, but it seems they don't want us to look in that direction.
I tried to copy and paste the whole article, but it seems rather a lot. If this link doesn't work, let me know and I'll try to correct it. It's well worth a read!

I just read this very long article. She queries why they went to the Millenium the first night (tapas was closed) given that there were many and nearer alternatives. she also suggests they did not always go to the tapas bar for dinner on the nights it was open and mentions some alternatives.

But what she doesn't say is that the McCanns were on a holiday package with Mark Warner where dinner was included if you ate at the Millenium or at the Tapas Bar So why would you eat at other restaurants and pay for a dinner?

I can understand that towards the end of the holiday you might be bored with the limited choice of restaurant for dinner, and you might go to a different one
and pay. the mcCanns seem very money minded. They won't pay for babysitters. Their children (allegedly) share toothbrushes. I do not think they would want to pay on the double for dinner and drinks when their package included dinner.

Breakfast (at the Millenium) was also included, but we're supposed to believe that the McCanns declined this and instead chose to alient themselves from the rest of their group to go self catering for breakfast. Ok, according to reviews, the Millenium restaurant was a 12 min walk, but the McCanns are fitness fanatics aren't they?

Like Stella, I don't believe that the five staff are all liars/mistaken either. The girl on reception remembered them having breakfast there on at least 3 occasions; she describes the family, she remembered Madeleine being shy, cuddling her father, why on earth would she make this up?

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Post by tigger on 21.08.11 17:20

@Daisy wrote:

Like Stella, I don't believe that the five staff are all liars/mistaken either. The girl on reception remembered them having breakfast there on at least 3 occasions; she describes the family, she remembered Madeleine being shy, cuddling her father, why on earth would she make this up?

Well, you see, that's where I have a problem. Maddie is described as anything but shy. 'giving her tuppence worth' and 'a screamer' and 'that girl could throw a tantrum', etc. mostly quotes from family.
So what I'm thinking is the same stand-in they used off and on all week. Perhaps Ella who can easily pass for Maddie, who was afraid of water one day, when Maddie loved water, according to Kate.
Or simply, that they did have breakfast at the flat. Breakfast doesn't exactly break the bank, bit of juice, coffee and cereal.
Otherwise, I see no problem either with the witnesses mistaking other clients for the McCanns. If only one of them thinks it's the McCanns, the others would naturally concur. I would, in that position, busy waitressing, noisy children.
Either way, I don't think if this is a lie, it is particularly important. Unless it is simply that Kate wants to draw our attention to her motherly person, looking after the children, etc. Or she want to re enforce her earlier statement that the Millenium was so much bother and so far away and the NO Buggies statement. I really don't think this bit is important.
Either they used a stand-in at the Millenium and this is just belts and braces, saying they weren't there. Just in case someone has a photograph or some other proof that the girl everyone thought was Maddie, turns out to be someone else's child.
I do think the silence about Chaplin's is important. It's right next to the church. The very church they had to ask the policeman to point out to them.
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Post by LG78 on 21.08.11 18:04

@pauline wrote:
@tigger wrote:http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Dt3aEQy4rKc/S9r0BB4QqNI/AAAAAAAAAsU/9vbV1yYg7Yg/s1600/pic1a.JPG&imgrefurl=http://textusa.blogspot.com/2010/05/eastenders-westenders-noenders.html&usg=__9wln8ElJuH4OhYK4_Vx5KMrBO-k=&h=694&w=1076&sz=147&hl=en&start=45&zoom=1&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=Pv6tzxboVozSVM:&tbnh=97&tbnw=150&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dmillenium%2Brestaurant%2Bpraia%2Bmccann%26start%3D36%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26ndsp%3D18%26tbm%3Disch&ei=4_pQTvuxM4qbOru_4PcG

Wow! this is quite a long link, hope this works. It's from textusa. Really interesting post wondering why they went to the Millenium at all? Everything else was actually closer, but it seems they don't want us to look in that direction.
I tried to copy and paste the whole article, but it seems rather a lot. If this link doesn't work, let me know and I'll try to correct it. It's well worth a read!

I just read this very long article. She queries why they went to the Millenium the first night (tapas was closed) given that there were many and nearer alternatives. she also suggests they did not always go to the tapas bar for dinner on the nights it was open and mentions some alternatives.

But what she doesn't say is that the McCanns were on a holiday package with Mark Warner where dinner was included if you ate at the Millenium or at the Tapas Bar So why would you eat at other restaurants and pay for a dinner?

I can understand that towards the end of the holiday you might be bored with the limited choice of restaurant for dinner, and you might go to a different one
and pay. the mcCanns seem very money minded. They won't pay for babysitters. Their children (allegedly) share toothbrushes. I do not think they would want to pay on the double for dinner and drinks when their package included dinner.

Acually the Babysitter service was free. So it wasnt the money either that stoped them from secure their children...
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Post by Gillyspot on 21.08.11 18:14

@LG78 wrote:
@pauline wrote:
@tigger wrote:http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Dt3aEQy4rKc/S9r0BB4QqNI/AAAAAAAAAsU/9vbV1yYg7Yg/s1600/pic1a.JPG&imgrefurl=http://textusa.blogspot.com/2010/05/eastenders-westenders-noenders.html&usg=__9wln8ElJuH4OhYK4_Vx5KMrBO-k=&h=694&w=1076&sz=147&hl=en&start=45&zoom=1&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=Pv6tzxboVozSVM:&tbnh=97&tbnw=150&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dmillenium%2Brestaurant%2Bpraia%2Bmccann%26start%3D36%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26ndsp%3D18%26tbm%3Disch&ei=4_pQTvuxM4qbOru_4PcG

Wow! this is quite a long link, hope this works. It's from textusa. Really interesting post wondering why they went to the Millenium at all? Everything else was actually closer, but it seems they don't want us to look in that direction.
I tried to copy and paste the whole article, but it seems rather a lot. If this link doesn't work, let me know and I'll try to correct it. It's well worth a read!

I just read this very long article. She queries why they went to the Millenium the first night (tapas was closed) given that there were many and nearer alternatives. she also suggests they did not always go to the tapas bar for dinner on the nights it was open and mentions some alternatives.

But what she doesn't say is that the McCanns were on a holiday package with Mark Warner where dinner was included if you ate at the Millenium or at the Tapas Bar So why would you eat at other restaurants and pay for a dinner?

I can understand that towards the end of the holiday you might be bored with the limited choice of restaurant for dinner, and you might go to a different one
and pay. the mcCanns seem very money minded. They won't pay for babysitters. Their children (allegedly) share toothbrushes. I do not think they would want to pay on the double for dinner and drinks when their package included dinner.

Acually the Babysitter service was free. So it wasnt the money either that stoped them from secure their children...

They said didn't they, that they were unhappy with leaving their children with a stranger - which is barmy when they left them with strangers day after day throughout their holiday.
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Post by Guest on 21.08.11 18:16

Hello LG78, I'm fairly sure that there was a charge for the evening babysitting service. I can't recall offhand exactly how much it was but it wasn't a great deal and Kate is quoted as saying that the cost of the service did not deter her from using it.
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Post by LG78 on 21.08.11 18:27

Marian wrote:Hello LG78, I'm fairly sure that there was a charge for the evening babysitting service. I can't recall offhand exactly how much it was but it wasn't a great deal and Kate is quoted as saying that the cost of the service did not deter her from using it.

Well Someone lies then, cause the nanny working their said this in her statement

. The question made, she affirms that guests can request ?Staff" services where children are watched between 19H30 and 23H30. Madeleine McCanns parents never requested this service even though it was free;

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SHINEAD-VINE.htm
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Post by Guest on 21.08.11 18:41

@lj wrote:I agree Stella, as a matter of fact last night I wrote a post along those line, candyfloss, and I can find it nowhere now?? Even if I look at all my post in my profile. Mysterious.
Anyway the line of thought in my post was this:
Kate does not need a reason to lie, she is a pathological liar, who will lie just for the heck of it. Often it is however to make her look better. Here she is attemting to show it was for the sake of the children they did not go to the millenium.
The workers though have no reason to lie, especially not 6 of them.

Hi lj,

Last night the forum went off line 3 times for a few mins - I had the same problem, I typed a post and sent it and it didn't appear, it must have been when the forum went off line. It was between 9 and 9.45 pm. Pages were loading slowly too before and after for a while. I immediately went to MM to see if they were still on, and they weren't, after a few mins a page came up saying forumtion doing routine maintenance, same as here. As I say it happened 3 times, for only a couple of mins at a time, so your post must have vanished then. I did ask Get 'em and she had noticed to.
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Post by pauline on 21.08.11 18:44

@LG78 wrote:
Marian wrote:Hello LG78, I'm fairly sure that there was a charge for the evening babysitting service. I can't recall offhand exactly how much it was but it wasn't a great deal and Kate is quoted as saying that the cost of the service did not deter her from using it.

Well Someone lies then, cause the nanny working their said this in her statement

. The question made, she affirms that guests can request ?Staff" services where children are watched between 19H30 and 23H30. Madeleine McCanns parents never requested this service even though it was free;

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SHINEAD-VINE.htm

I understand the situation was - evening creche service free ( 19.30 - 23.30)- but if you want one of the creche staff to come and be in your apartment (obviously much more convenient) then then you had to book and pay an hourly charge which would have been about £9-£10 ph then.

You can see on the current MW website that having an individual babysitter costs extra.

Kate made the comment in the book that she did not want strangers minding her children which is rubbish as the 'strangers' would have been the nannies from the creche where they spent most of their day.
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Post by LG78 on 21.08.11 18:52

@pauline wrote:
@LG78 wrote:
Marian wrote:Hello LG78, I'm fairly sure that there was a charge for the evening babysitting service. I can't recall offhand exactly how much it was but it wasn't a great deal and Kate is quoted as saying that the cost of the service did not deter her from using it.

Well Someone lies then, cause the nanny working their said this in her statement

. The question made, she affirms that guests can request Staff" services where children are watched between 19H30 and 23H30. Madeleine McCanns parents never requested this service even though it was free;

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SHINEAD-VINE.htm

I understand the situation was - evening creche service free ( 19.30 - 23.30)- but if you want one of the creche staff to come and be in your apartment (obviously much more convenient) then then you had to book and pay an hourly charge which would have been about £9-£10 ph then.

You can see on the current MW website that having an individual babysitter costs extra.

Kate made the comment in the book that she did not want strangers minding her children which is rubbish as the 'strangers' would have been the nannies from the creche where they spent most of their day.

But she say guests can request Staff" services where children are watched between 19H30 and 23H30. Madeleine McCanns parents never requested this service even though it was free;

So I would read it as they could had their children watch for free. In thei room or regulary in some way..This is said by the nanny working there. She points out the fact that it was free and still they didnt use it..

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Post by Guest on 21.08.11 19:05

I did read that it was £10 per hour for babysitting on another forum, this article from the editor of "This is Money" site, who stayed at the Ocean Club at almost the same time, does say it was...................

09 May 2007 1:32 PM

My experience of Maddie's resort in Praia de Luz, the Algarve

I need to break from the usual financial slant of posts on this blog. I'm sure you'll understand as I thing's it's important to give my views on this...
My family and I returned last week relaxed from a holiday at the sleepy end of Portugal’s Algarve. We were, however, stunned to wake on Friday morning, days after we returned, to hear news that a girl, three-year-old Madeleine McCann, had gone missing from the same complex, yards from where we stayed.
We picked the Ocean Club resort in Praia de Luz, a quiet village, because of its connections with Mark Warner Holidays. The company has a growing reputation among families for offering comprehensive childcare wrapped in packages with free sports activities, such as tennis and water sports. The balance of a family holiday with time to relax away from the kids is attractive to millions of Britons.
We had a great time, able to spend time together as a family while also having some time out. Sam, our two-year-old son, was well looked after while we lounged by the pool, or why I played tennis or sailed. My wife Andrea and I even made nightly jaunts to local restaurants, a rare treat for new parents.
Luz, as the locals call it, is a laid back resort with a mix of Portugese holidaymakers and locals and, in off-peak May, a smaller number of foreign tourists. A handful of restaurants and bars in the town have a balance of mainly British families and friendly locals. This is an area you would not associate with crime, let alone the abduction of a child.
The Ocean Club has several hubs. One is a 24-hour reception, the other two have swimming pools, restaurants and tennis courts. At their furthest point, these centres are 10 minutes walk apart. In between are Ocean Club apartments mixed with local homes.
The options for childcare were numerous, well organised and of a very high standard. A well-staffed nursery with a child-to-carer ratio that was often just two-to-one, took youngsters from 9.30 to 12.30 every day and from 2.30 to 5.30 in the afternoon.

These creche facilities were next to the poolside Tapas restaurant where Madeleine’s parents were eating when she disappeared.
Madeleine and the younger twins Amelie and Sean were sleeping at the McCanns’ apartment overlooking the swimming pool at the main hub of the resort. Around that pool was the Tapas bar which was in high demand every night. Most guests went to the buffet at the Ocean Club’s Millennium restaurant, a 10-minute walk away from the McCanns’ apartment. But eager guests would queue from 9am to book one of the limited number of tables at the Tapas bar, which served barbecued fish and meat dishes to order. Both restaurants were included in the price of the holiday.

The McCanns’ choice to leave their children at the flat and make regular checks is surprising given the alternatives. In their defence, they may have been expecting, as advertised in Mark Warner brochures, a ‘listening service’. Staff told us that the service had been discontinued because the apartments were too spread out. The resort, however, offered a baby-sitting service for 15 euros (£10) an hour, which was staffed by a member of the daytime nursery teams, or a ‘dining out club’. This involved parents dropping off children at the crèche where they would be supervised watching videos until they went to sleep. Parents would then return before 11.30 to scoop up their sleepy offspring.
I can imagine the McCanns’ dilemma. The ‘dining out club’ was more than a five-minute walk from where the McCanns stayed along cobbled streets or a winding pedestrian path through the apartments. It’s not far - it worked brilliantly for us on most nights - but it would have felt much further if you had to ferry thee children there and back (and hope they were still asleep after doing so). Plus parents were required to wait until children under two, which includes the McCanns’ twins, were asleep. We talked to parents who said this was enough to put them off the option.
The McCanns opted instead to eat 40-50m from their apartment, not much more than a pool’s width away. They hoped it would be just close enough to hear a crying baby but with bar music playing and restaurant hubbub, it wasn’t close enough to hear what happened to Madeleine that night.
I can't imagine what they're going through now. I, along with millions others, only hope they can find her soon and safe.

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I have to say that I agree with Stella. It was when I was midway through the first T7 rogatory that I knew for sure something very peculiar & sinister happened in PDL in 2007. For this reason I find that it's best to only rely on independent statements. The Portuguese have no reason to lie. If the McCann's lied about going to the Millennium there has to be a reason, what were they trying to hide exactly and why did the T7 also lie?

That was a very interesting and thought provoking piece, Tigger. I agree that Chaplin's is important but so is breakfast at the Millennium. I don't understand why the McCann's were never challenged about their statements in regard to either of these restaurants. It would have been relatively easy to prove at the time.
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Post by lj on 21.08.11 22:16

candyfloss wrote:
@lj wrote:I agree Stella, as a matter of fact last night I wrote a post along those line, candyfloss, and I can find it nowhere now?? Even if I look at all my post in my profile. Mysterious.
Anyway the line of thought in my post was this:
Kate does not need a reason to lie, she is a pathological liar, who will lie just for the heck of it. Often it is however to make her look better. Here she is attemting to show it was for the sake of the children they did not go to the millenium.
The workers though have no reason to lie, especially not 6 of them.

Hi lj,

Last night the forum went off line 3 times for a few mins - I had the same problem, I typed a post and sent it and it didn't appear, it must have been when the forum went off line. It was between 9 and 9.45 pm. Pages were loading slowly too before and after for a while. I immediately went to MM to see if they were still on, and they weren't, after a few mins a page came up saying forumtion doing routine maintenance, same as here. As I say it happened 3 times, for only a couple of mins at a time, so your post must have vanished then. I did ask Get 'em and she had noticed to.

Ahh, I was blaming the mexicans again for the strange events (they like to throw all kind of communications off when something is happening), it was a bit come and go around that time. I'm glad it was not something I said.

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Post by LG78 on 22.08.11 6:39

Im not English myself, tried google translate but it translated not right im sure.
here is an innvoice for reparing the blinds in apartment 5a on 1 may 2007. And the Blinds can anyone translate / explain to me?
My first tought of the blinds are the windows , the blinds are those hanging in front of window? Or am I translating it wrong?
310-Invoice/Maintenance order for blind repair 2007.05.01
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Post by Gillyspot on 22.08.11 6:57

It is a job to know what it says in Portuguese. Whoever wrote this should have been a doctor because it is hard to tell what letters they are writing. sad
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Post by LG78 on 22.08.11 7:04

@Gillyspot wrote:It is a job to know what it says in Portuguese. Whoever wrote this should have been a doctor because it is hard to tell what letters they are writing. sad

but the english word blinds, can u explain the meaning of that word ?
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Post by Gillyspot on 22.08.11 7:18

Oh I see. Sorry!

"Perciana" does appear this means a venetian type blind as far as I am aware.

These are coverings for windows and can be fitted outside or inside the window. They consist of a number of horizontal slats whose angle may be altered to let in more or less light and some can be opened outright. There are usually opened using cords or a pole fitted to one side of the window.

Obviously the McCanns referred to "shutters" and as there were not actual shutters fitted to the window it is these blinds that they must have been referring to (possibly because they were fitted to the outside of the window and this is not normal in the UK).

I have attached a link showing an indoor one (venetian blind is bottom right of page).

http://odysseyblinds.co.uk/product.htm

I hope this helps.

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Post by LG78 on 22.08.11 7:30

@Gillyspot wrote:Oh I see. Sorry!

"Perciana" does appear this means a venetian type blind as far as I am aware.

These are coverings for windows and can be fitted outside or inside the window. They consist of a number of horizontal slats whose angle may be altered to let in more or less light and some can be opened outright. There are usually opened using cords or a pole fitted to one side of the window.

Obviously the McCanns referred to "shutters" and as there were not actual shutters fitted to the window it is these blinds that they must have been referring to (possibly because they were fitted to the outside of the window and this is not normal in the UK).

I have attached a link showing an indoor one (venetian blind is bottom right of page).

http://odysseyblinds.co.uk/product.htm

I hope this helps.


TY : Yes that was I tought it was. Strange that they had them repaired May 1th ?
I found the translate : Interresting , it says :
That that job occurred on 1 May and was performed by staff members Luis and Mario. It comprised the repair of an external blind and in instructing the guests on the workings of the washing machine.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EXTERNAL.htm#p2p309 PAGE 310
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Post by Gillyspot on 22.08.11 7:44

It is very odd I agree.
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Post by LG78 on 22.08.11 7:49

486-E-mail from Cape Town 6 May 2007 re: Danie Krugel

(1) From: "Vouga Marine" To: DCCB Portugal at 13h54;
(2) Forwarded to DIC Portimao by "Vouga Marine" at 22h20;
(3) Passed to case records office at 09h45 on 7 May.

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To help the investigations being conducted into the disappearance of little Madeleine I humbly suggest that someone read the page of carteblanche.co.za dated 3 December 2006 regarding Danie Krugel of Bloemfontein.

Found the site:
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Post by LG78 on 22.08.11 8:33

Anyone know why it was so important for them to have apartments as close as possible to the eachothers?
Out of all the friends they are the onlyone specifaying in their booking that they want aparments as cloce as possible to eachother...
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Post by Guest on 22.08.11 8:43

Maybe it's too early in the day for me but surely it was the wooden external shutters that were repaired? They were the ones which were famously quoted as being "jemmied" open by the "abductor" before it was proved that they weren't. I've not heard any mention of the Venetian blind type until now.
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