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Post by ROSA on 07.08.11 3:34

Kates diary 2007 i dont know if there are other diary notes 2006?2005?2004?2003? does anyone know?
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Post by lj on 07.08.11 3:55

Kate wrote that diary, it started retrograde, to show Madeleine, when she was found, how hard they worked to find her.

I won't put a LMAO smiley here

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Post by ROSA on 07.08.11 4:17

gerry's blogs »
Day 85 – 27/07/2007 – Friday
[27 Jul 2007 | No Comment | 118 views]
Unedited version on old website
Quite a lot of e-mails and telephone calls today planning future events, which might be helpful to keep Madeleine in peoples minds. I am sure there will be a lot of interest in Saturday August 11th if Madeline because that will mark 100 days if Madeleine is still missing. This date coincides with the world pipe band championships being held in Glasgow. A former world pipe band champion, Alasdair Gillies who is a friend of one of my sisters, has composed a Marvellous …
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Post by Guest on 07.08.11 8:49

The previous blog entry from Gerry is the first I have seen where he has thought to add "if Madeleine is still missing" when planning future events.
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Post by Tinkerbell81 on 07.08.11 12:04

@lj wrote:Having more than one cuddlecat.

???? A few oddities - Page 2 172348 I dont know anything about this? More info please?
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Post by lj on 07.08.11 13:48

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@lj wrote:Having more than one cuddlecat.

???? A few oddities - Page 2 172348 I dont know anything about this? More info please?

During the check with the cadaver dogs, a second cuddlecat was found and there were stories there were up to 5.

IIRC only the one hidden under the kitchensink had the cadaver smell.

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Post by ROSA on 08.08.11 0:41

5 cats ? never mind
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Post by jd on 08.08.11 0:42

I think I missed this. Were there up to 5 cuddle cats?

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Post by Guest on 08.08.11 9:13

Tony posted this on another thread about there being 40 cuddlecats biggergrin

Don't forget the 40 Cuddle Cats handed out to the (allegedly) 40 detectives employed by Metodo 3 to come up with false 'sightings' of Madeleine search for Madeleine McCann.

Here's a paragraph from our forthcoming in-depth article on 'Brian Kennedy and Madeleine McCann':

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On 28 November the Daily Mail reported that Método 3 “has had between 30 and 35 detectives working on the case in Britain, France, Spain, Portugal and Morocco since September”, while on 25 January 2008 the same paper inflated that number to ‘‘40 investigators working on the case in Spain and Portugal". The fact that investigators were being employed in Portugal was contrary to Portuguese law, which I understand prohibits private investigations running alongside any official investigation. Clarence Mitchell claimed that the new head of the Portuguese Police investigation, Alipio Ribeiro, ‘is turning a blind eye to the activities of Método 3’. The later Mail report made the fascinating claim that each of Método 3’s 40 investigators had been given a replica of the McCanns’ pink soft toy, ‘Cuddle Cat’, which, the Mail said, the investigators ‘were encouraged to squeeze every time they felt demotivated at the size of their task’.

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Post by Guest on 08.08.11 9:17

This is what I fail to understand. After Madeleine disappeared, cuddlecat was left on her bed, so why issue 40 of them to the detectives?
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Post by IAmNotMerylStreep on 08.08.11 9:28

40 pink blankets would have been more appropriate.
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Post by ROSA on 08.08.11 9:39

admin biggergrin thumbsup
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Post by ROSA on 08.08.11 9:43

Gerry gets no cuddle............................................. cat tease
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Post by Guest on 08.08.11 9:53

As with many media stories, the genuine ones can be as daft as the hoaxes and it's hard to tell the difference. I think that, as this story involves the "heroic" efforts of Metodo 3 to find Madeleine, there is very unlikely to be any truth whatsoever in the 40 Cuddlecats story.



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Post by Guest on 08.08.11 9:55

@IAmNotMerylStreep wrote:40 pink blankets would have been more appropriate.

But that was left behind also. A few oddities - Page 2 302873
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Post by jd on 08.08.11 11:02

@Admin wrote:The later Mail report made the fascinating claim that each of Método 3’s 40 investigators had been given a replica of the McCanns’ pink soft toy, ‘Cuddle Cat’, which, the Mail said, the investigators ‘were encouraged to squeeze every time they felt demotivated at the size of their task’.

I would sincerely hope that the Mail were being totally sarcastic with this comment!!

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Post by Guest on 08.08.11 11:55

Yes I really hope that the remark in the Mail wasn't meant to be taken seriously but, as I said before, how do you know the difference - particularly with anything involving the McCanns - between a wind up and something that the writer intends to be taken as being true?



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Post by tigger on 11.08.11 20:43

@ROSA wrote:
Having a ready supply of pre-printed photographs of Madeleine ready for the police as soon as they arrived on the night of 3rd May
Within just two hours of Madeleine’s ‘disappearance’, if not even earlier, the McCanns had a ready supply of posters featuring Madeleine’s face. The McCanns claimed that they had produced them on the spot, using their digital camera, and by getting access to a printing machine at the Ocean Club. But police enquiries at the club did not find any printer that could have produced those particular types of photo posters. This led to the Portuguese police to strongly suspect that they had been pre-prepared earlier in the day, somewhere away from the premises.

I think that was their biggest mistake, because not only did that photograph have to be printed, the coloboma had to be photoshopped in! The eyelashes were enhanced, the nose made smaller. Adobe photoshop is not available in internet cafes. So, where was this done? Apart from the fact that a photograph of your child taken some 18 months earlier is strange to have with you on holiday.
There seems to have been a total lack of laptops, never mentioned. Too risky with police investigation? Would take too long to delete items?
Whichever way you cut it, it's premeditation and not by a few hours either.

The photoshopping of the 'last photo' was presumably done in the UK, since it didn't surface until G had made his first trip back home.
So my idea is that the artist is in the UK and the iconic poster photo was also done in the UK. Some are done rather badly, such as the Everton T shirt where her face is pasted on. The pool has part of Amelie's arm missing, Gerry is floating in the air and Maddie looks about 3.
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Post by Guest on 20.08.11 19:04

I am sure this has been mentioned before, I just noticed it now. There are 6 different statements from Millennium staff verifying that the McCann's had breakfast there every morning. Complete denial in Kate's book and T9 interviews. Surely the PJ's must have found this very strange. Why lie about breakfast? Stunning.
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Post by pauline on 20.08.11 19:15

Really odd molly.

the Millenium wasn't near in the context of three small children and no buggy. Kate said they used the Millenium for dinner the first night and it wasn't convenient for that reason, hence they wanted to have dinner subsequently at the nearer tapas bar.

Why they would have breakfast at the Millenium every day I cant understand. So I believe Kate in this instance.

I Cant understand why Kate would lie about this.

Nor can I understand why the staff would provide inaccurate information.

The breakfast would have been the same in either place presumably, so the logical thing is to go to the nearer venue.
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Post by Tinkerbell81 on 20.08.11 19:35

@Admin wrote:Here's a few odd things to consider:

Gerry having presence of mind to update his Friends Reunited profile to remove babysitting reference
Washing Cuddlecat and using it as a prop for staged photoshoots then dumping it once back in the UK

The Wider Agenda flipchart
The excessive mileage on the hire car
Blood/marks on walls and floor behind sofa

Jon Corner's strange remark about Maddie's special quality and charisma

I have never read anything else about these remarks, can someone tell me (in short?) what this was all about?

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Post by Guest on 20.08.11 20:03

"When asked, she says she remembers the McCann family as they often used the restaurant where she worked although she adds that she never had a conversation with them."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ALICE-SILVESTRE.htm
"When asked, she says that she knows the parents, the siblings and Madeleine. She received them for breakfast on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, she does not know whether they went for breakfast on Sunday or Monday, as these were her days off."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CECILIA-DFC.htm
"When questioned she says that she does not remember the family of Madeleine McCann although they were regular users of the restaurant where she worked, because her functions did not imply direct contact with the guests."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ECATERINA_DOBRIOGLO.htm
"fter seeing their [the McCann's] picture, he immediately remembered that he had seen them having breakfast in the restaurant where he works, but that he does not remember any situation in particular involving this family, nor does he remember hearing or noticing any strange situation involving their presence"
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JOHN_YOUNG.htm
"He remembered being in the presence of the group Madeleine belonged to, composed of nine adults and eight children on the 28th April, the day they arrived at the resort. Apart from breakfast, which they would eat every day in the Millenium restaurant, dinner on Saturday night was the only meal they had there because the Tapas bar did not serve dinner on Saturdays"
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LUIS_BARROS.htm
"He says that they would have breakfast in the morning at the restaurant. He cannot guarantee it, but he thinks they were regular guests at the time in the morning."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PEDRO-RIBEIRO.htm

6 mistaken workers? How can this be?
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Post by Guest on 20.08.11 20:35

Molly wrote:"When asked, she says she remembers the McCann family as they often used the restaurant where she worked although she adds that she never had a conversation with them."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ALICE-SILVESTRE.htm
"When asked, she says that she knows the parents, the siblings and Madeleine. She received them for breakfast on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, she does not know whether they went for breakfast on Sunday or Monday, as these were her days off."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CECILIA-DFC.htm
"When questioned she says that she does not remember the family of Madeleine McCann although they were regular users of the restaurant where she worked, because her functions did not imply direct contact with the guests."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ECATERINA_DOBRIOGLO.htm
"fter seeing their [the McCann's] picture, he immediately remembered that he had seen them having breakfast in the restaurant where he works, but that he does not remember any situation in particular involving this family, nor does he remember hearing or noticing any strange situation involving their presence"
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JOHN_YOUNG.htm
"He remembered being in the presence of the group Madeleine belonged to, composed of nine adults and eight children on the 28th April, the day they arrived at the resort. Apart from breakfast, which they would eat every day in the Millenium restaurant, dinner on Saturday night was the only meal they had there because the Tapas bar did not serve dinner on Saturdays"
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LUIS_BARROS.htm
"He says that they would have breakfast in the morning at the restaurant. He cannot guarantee it, but he thinks they were regular guests at the time in the morning."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PEDRO-RIBEIRO.htm

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Good find Molly, I had never read these before. Just quickly searching found this....................


The families set into a regular routine. The McCanns had breakfast in their apartment as they found it difficult getting the little ones up and dressed and then taken to the resort’s Millennium restaurant, especially as the twins were only just mastering walking

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/245391/-Madeleine-has-gone-Someone-has-taken-her--Madeleine-has-gone-Someone-has-taken-her--Madeleine-has-gone-Someone-has-taken-her--Madeleine-has-gone-Someone-has-taken-her--Madeleine-has-gone-Someone-has-taken-her--Madeleine-has-gone-Someone-has-taken-her--Madeleine-has-gone-Someone-has-taken-her--Madeleine-has-gone-Someone-has-taken-her-


And without going through the taps statement this is from google................

PJ Files: The Tapas Group's Statements - McCann Files
www.mccannfiles.com/id261.html - CachedMembers of the 'Tapas Group' gather on the morning of 04 May 2007 .... Concerning routines, he mentions that on Sunday, they had breakfast, between 7.30 and 8.30am ... As usual, every half hour and considering that the restaurant was close to the .... Only the McCann couple would have breakfast in their apartment
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Post by Guest on 20.08.11 20:43


Volume I, pages 34 - 41

Witness statement of Gerald Patrick McCann, on the 4th of May 2007, at 11.15 a.m.
Location: CID Portimão

Concerning routines, he mentions that on Sunday, they had breakfast, between 7.30 and 8.30am at the Ocean Club, namely in the resort’s bar a few metres away from the apartment. On the following days, because the war was rather distant, they started buying food at the supermarket, located on the same road as the apartment, whose name he cannot recall

http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic31.html


Volume I, pages 58 - 65

Witness statement of Kate Marie Healy, on the 4th of May 2007, at 2.20 p.m.
Location: CID Portimão


As far as the routines are concerned, the witness refers that on Sunday they went for breakfast at around 7.30/8.30 at the Ocean Club, namely at the resort’s bar which is located at some metres’ distance from the apartment. On the following days, and because the bar was quite far away, they started buying food at the “BATISTA” supermarket, which is located on the same road as the apartment, and they had their first meal of the day at the apartment.

http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic31.html
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Post by tigger on 20.08.11 21:00

I wonder if this is to strengthen the fable that they didn't know PdL at all. The first day they did all go to the Millenium I believe. But I've once seem a post somewhere where someone had drawn circles on the Oc site and PdL to show that the McCanns were very keen to let people know they didn't know and and hadn't been anywhere near the rest of the town. Where the church is, where Chaplins' bar is and where the block of flats is that Amaral had an interest in.
Whatever the reason, it seems we need to know that they didn't even know where the church was (next to Chaplins where allegedly staff from OC came to tell them one of their children was crying).
The Millenium staff, like the staff from the Paraiso? on the 3rd May, may well have been mistaken and mixed them up with other parents and children. The twins are dressed differently to each other and there were quite a number of children on that holiday altogether.

As for there being no buggy, they were using one all the time later in the holiday, I believe MW had these available.
In the book, Kate makes much of the Millenium thing, saying how hard it was to have to carry the twins all the way. According to that post, she mentions all sorts of places actually much further away from the apartments.
So that the area where Gerry was seen by the Smiths, the church, Chaplins and the apartment blocks near the church are seen to be foreign territory for them, according to her information.
It may just be that.

Anyway, I'll see if I can find it, it is some months ago.
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