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Post by Tinkerbell81 on 08.01.12 12:40

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Actually I must be the only odd one out.
I don't believe any of the officially released photos was photoshopped.
Too risky and stupid if they did that, and no reason to do that, since there is no relevance to the investigation.

The only reason to lie is to influence the investigation .
Since the rest of the later released photos would do nothing to influence the investigation why photoshop?


To create confusion about what Maddie really looked like, to be able to keep sightings going while at the same time keeping her in the news?

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Post by jd on 08.01.12 12:55

Well spotted from Nina clapping1 ...the 'blue' on the balcony from the gerry's happy days video taken less than a week after Maddie disappeared, does look to be the same blue from the makeup photo and Burgau. I too have never seen this blue for chairs before except for in this location

Btw just look at gerrys face, does he look like a father whose daughter had been abducted only 3/4 days previous?

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Post by Pershing36 on 08.01.12 13:01

Weird, especially when virtually every picture of her always looks like an entirely different child. I these were not taken in the same week it would suggest to me they had been to that resort before.
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Post by Jill Havern on 08.01.12 13:02

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Btw just look at gerrys face, does he look like a father whose daughter had been abducted only 3/4 days previous?

Especially abducted by a paedophile as they want us to believe bigshock

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Post by Tinkerbell81 on 08.01.12 13:05

Im going to (waste my time?) look around if the colour is maybe commonly used in Portugal? If its for example a colour regularly used there we could safely say 'its taken in Portugal' but not necessarily there in Burgau. Im keeping options open, and just trying to avoid tunnel vision... [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

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Post by jd on 08.01.12 13:08

Btw the picture of gerry laughing was taken from the apartment upstairs to 5A in OC, which they moved into after May 3rd. I think it could have been the Paynes old apartment which I read a few times but am not 100% sure. It was Portuguese Tv that captured this

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Post by Guest on 08.01.12 13:10

@jd wrote:Btw the picture of gerry laughing was taken from the apartment upstairs to 5A in OC, which they moved into after May 3rd. I think it could have been the Paynes old apartment which I read a few times but am not 100% sure. It was Portuguese Tv that captured this
The McCann's moved to block 4, apartment G4G afterwards. Not upstairs in block 5.
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Post by aiyoyo on 08.01.12 13:18

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Actually I must be the only odd one out.
I don't believe any of the officially released photos was photoshopped.
Too risky and stupid if they did that, and no reason to do that, since there is no relevance to the investigation.

The only reason to lie is to influence the investigation .
Since the rest of the later released photos would do nothing to influence the investigation why photoshop?


To create confusion about what Maddie really looked like, to be able to keep sightings going while at the same time keeping her in the news?


I understand why they release them. At least I believe I do. It is to show that Maddie had happy and fun time and they're one big normal happy family. Or even to create confusion or whatever be the reason, however
I was saying I dont believe they were photoshopped. Why bother to release something they need to photoshop first? Surely there are plenty others to choose from the family albums? To what purpose that serves? The release may be for a purpose, but the photoshop serves what purpose?

To make her looks older, younger, or wearing make up, or enjoying ice cream, generally having fun or whatever, ok so be it - but what is the significant of photoshopped photos to the investigation or to engage the public in their search? None whatsoever, imo.

I cant see a bunch of educated people doing something such as silly as photoshop photos that has no bearing on anything else.
Ok , so maybe it's just me who cant see the significance. I accept that.





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Post by Guest on 08.01.12 13:23

@jd wrote:Well spotted from Nina clapping1 ...the 'blue' on the balcony from the gerry's happy days video taken less than a week after Maddie disappeared, does look to be the same blue from the makeup photo and Burgau. I too have never seen this blue for chairs before except for in this location

Btw just look at gerrys face, does he look like a father whose daughter had been abducted only 3/4 days previous?

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But im very sure the blue is a tshirt on makeup picture not a chair.I do feel that it is not taken in England.
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Post by Pershing36 on 08.01.12 13:28

If it is a T-shirt then it could be somebody standing behind and slightly to the left of her.
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Post by Jill Havern on 08.01.12 13:32

Moa wrote:But im very sure the blue is a tshirt on makeup picture not a chair.I do feel that it is not taken in England.

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I thought it was a tshirt too....Gerry does wear a lot of blue tshirts.

He looks high on something in this photo.

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Post by Guest on 08.01.12 14:00

@Pershing36 wrote:If it is a T-shirt then it could be somebody standing behind and slightly to the left of her.

I think someone sits behind her..that person is maybe "helping" tilting her head back...
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Post by Guest on 08.01.12 14:03

Get 'em Gonçalo wrote:
Moa wrote:But im very sure the blue is a tshirt on makeup picture not a chair.I do feel that it is not taken in England.

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I thought it was a tshirt too....Gerry does wear a lot of blue tshirts.

He looks high on something in this photo.

Sure Looks high on something..

Is it true that gerry were involved in a pedhoring in 2002 ? (sorry for going ot )
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Post by tigger on 08.01.12 14:15

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Weird, especially when virtually every picture of her always looks like an entirely different child. I these were not taken in the same week it would suggest to me they had been to that resort before.

That's what I think is the simplest solution. In the pool photo she looks about 3 to 3 and a bit, which would be right for a late holiday in 2006.
Could be that Amelie is photoshopped in that one because she is the one missing part of her upper arm and her age is about right for 2007.

Many pictures are of a different child. Don't forget that most people don't realise we see with our brains. We see a collection of shapes and the brain fills it in for us. What you see isn't 'scanned' pixel by pixel every time you look at something.
A short list of 'not Maddies':
The girl with the frizzed hair (smile is all wrong)
The girl with the sunglasses on top of her head
The very blond girl in the Everton shirt (the other one has Maddie's head pasted on)
Smiles are very individual, so the shape of the mouth when smiling is quite a giveaway. It's because you use the same muscles always, don't suddenly decide to activate other muscles for a smile.


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Post by Pershing36 on 08.01.12 14:26

How are we too know which one is the real one?
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Post by tigger on 08.01.12 15:50

Each new photo released will have a price tag for copyright, I think this was the case right from the beginning. TM had some very astute marketing pros onside, so to speak.
I don't know what they'd charge for a video?

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Post by juliet on 08.01.12 17:01

Some of the photos, notably the skirting board and bath ones, are marked Paul Grover, as if he has the copyright.

He says he got them from Grandma McCann's album, with permission.

It's hard to believe the McCanns would let Paul Grover make any money out of pictures, when it could be theirs...so why do they let him have his name on them?
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Post by anil39200 on 08.01.12 17:11

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Actually I must be the only odd one out.
I don't believe any of the officially released photos was photoshopped.
Too risky and stupid if they did that, and no reason to do that, since there is no relevance to the investigation.

The only reason to lie is to influence the investigation .
Since the rest of the later released photos would do nothing to influence the investigation why photoshop?


To create confusion about what Maddie really looked like, to be able to keep sightings going while at the same time keeping her in the news?


I understand why they release them. At least I believe I do. It is to show that Maddie had happy and fun time and they're one big normal happy family. Or even to create confusion or whatever be the reason, however
I was saying I dont believe they were photoshopped. Why bother to release something they need to photoshop first? Surely there are plenty others to choose from the family albums? To what purpose that serves? The release may be for a purpose, but the photoshop serves what purpose?

To make her looks older, younger, or wearing make up, or enjoying ice cream, generally having fun or whatever, ok so be it - but what is the significant of photoshopped photos to the investigation or to engage the public in their search? None whatsoever, imo.

I cant see a bunch of educated people doing something such as silly as photoshop photos that has no bearing on anything else.
Ok , so maybe it's just me who cant see the significance. I accept that.

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Post by jd on 08.01.12 17:14

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Each new photo released will have a price tag for copyright, I think this was the case right from the beginning. TM had some very astute marketing pros onside, so to speak.
I don't know what they'd charge for a video?

Are you saying that they got paid for every photo they released? That they are making money on photos of their daughter, this can't be true. It will be utterly sick if it was

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Post by anil39200 on 08.01.12 17:21

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I don't know what they'd charge for a video?

Are you saying that they got paid for every photo they released? That they are making money on photos of their daughter, this can't be true. It will be utterly sick if it was

every opportunity is a good marketing ploy
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Post by jd on 08.01.12 17:24

I know this might be a "small window of opportunity" but it is sick to make money from photos that are given in asking help from people to find her. This is just sick

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Post by anil39200 on 08.01.12 17:30

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I know this might be a "small window of opportunity" but it is sick to make money from photos that are given in asking help from people to find her. This is just sick

you are right, it is sick, but surely it doesnt surprise you after all the other antics. I could never make money out of a child like this, to me it is immoral, but we seem to be in that type of society where the general public only want to notice the superficial and are too lazy too dig into the background. I have learned spo much which has surprised me about the dark side of human nature from this case and am amazed it has been allowed to carry on, seemingly with the support of many powerful people.
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Post by jd on 08.01.12 17:42

If this is true then there will be many more mccanns and Shannon Matthews mother.....what has this society become

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Post by Pershing36 on 08.01.12 18:28

So how does this photo royalty thing work? Do you have to pay to use the photos?
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