Disappearance/Murder of Kate Prout
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Re: Disappearance/Murder of Kate Prout
Was it confirmed that the dog identified the spot?
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candyfloss wrote:Search dogs were brought in to help find her remains on Thursday, the third day of the search.
What's the betting that was Martin Grime and Eddie
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this from the bbc article just posted.....
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Search dogs were brought in to help find her remains on Thursday, the third day of the search.
This on Sky...
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Dogs trained to detect decomposed bodies have been at the scene along with a body decomposition expert who was flown in by helicopter on Wednesday.
http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16117076
These were the dogs that were dissed by this report below on Sky a while ago. Strange how the police keep using them isn't it.
Sniffer Dogs 'Can Hinder Police Work'
http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/15959107
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Search dogs were brought in to help find her remains on Thursday, the third day of the search.
This on Sky...
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Dogs trained to detect decomposed bodies have been at the scene along with a body decomposition expert who was flown in by helicopter on Wednesday.
http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16117076
These were the dogs that were dissed by this report below on Sky a while ago. Strange how the police keep using them isn't it.
Sniffer Dogs 'Can Hinder Police Work'
http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/15959107
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That's right Candyfloss.
When they need results, they know exactly who to turn to when the pressure is on.
When they need results, they know exactly who to turn to when the pressure is on.
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Stella wrote:candyfloss wrote:Search dogs were brought in to help find her remains on Thursday, the third day of the search.
What's the betting that was Martin Grime and Eddie
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Sorry to dampen your spirits.
Personally I doubt it be Eddie bc to bring in Martin Grime and Eddie from USA would be too costly.
Besides I heard Martin Grime and his dogs retired a year or two ago.
It would be another dog also trained in picking up cadaver scent. But it was almost certainly Eddie who marked behind Prout's sofa in 2007, if I am not mistaken.
What's bizzare is the dog was not named. If it was a dog as famous as Eddie, bet the press would have named it.
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aiyoyo wrote:Stella
Sorry to dampen your spirits.
Personally I doubt it be Eddie bc to bring in Martin Grime and Eddie from USA would be too costly.
Besides I heard Martin Grime and his dogs retired a year or two ago.
It would be another dog also trained in picking up cadaver scent. But it was almost certainly Eddie who marked behind Prout's sofa in 2007, if I am not mistaken.
What's bizzare is the dog was not named. If it was a dog as famous as Eddie, bet the press would have named it.
I think they will hide the identity of all cadaver dogs in future, to prevent people likes of us from weighing up the importance of any findings. Then that way they can blame the rubbish dogs when they 'really' need to and praise the good dogs when it suits them.
As for Martin Grime, I did hear he had retired from South Yorkshire Police and went independent. I remember reading he was in America shortly after that, but I know for a fact that the Americans on some sort of 2 year rotation, use British dog trainers, who then come back home. I have met a bomb disposal dog trainer who helped me out with my dog. So Martin Grime might be back in the UK by now.
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aiyoyo wrote:Stella wrote:candyfloss wrote:Search dogs were brought in to help find her remains on Thursday, the third day of the search.
What's the betting that was Martin Grime and Eddie
Stella
Sorry to dampen your spirits.
Personally I doubt it be Eddie bc to bring in Martin Grime and Eddie from USA would be too costly.
Besides I heard Martin Grime and his dogs retired a year or two ago.
It would be another dog also trained in picking up cadaver scent. But it was almost certainly Eddie who marked behind Prout's sofa in 2007, if I am not mistaken.
What's bizzare is the dog was not named. If it was a dog as famous as Eddie, bet the press would have named it.
Just popping in to confirm that fact for you...
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Nice article on the case.
http://m.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Cadaver-dog-sniffed-death-Prout-home/story-11860269-detail/story.html
When it is said that a dog's alert needs "forensic' evidence to back it up, that does NOT mean scientific evidence of blood DNA, etc
It means forensic in the sense of 'to be placed before the Court = forum" ( from the Latin)
Here is is clear that nothing else was found. There were No traces of blood, nor of a fight.
Nevertheless he was convicted.
The family continued to protest his innocence - as they do, having no chance to look dispassionately at the evidence, and being blinded by their natural love
BUT THEN
Oh, bu***** !
POINT TO NOTE:04.03.11
By This is Gloucestershire
EVIDENCE of a dead body inside murdered Kate Prout's home was discovered by a sniffer dog, it has emerged.
The "cadaver dog" homed in on an area in the living room of the Redmarley home she shared with her husband Adrian Prout, who was convicted of her killing last year.
An hour-long documentary on the murder case told how the dog, which was specially trained to seek out dead bodies and where deaths occurred, concentrated on a specific spot in the living room at Redhill Farm.
And for the first time another of Kate Prout's brothers, Ted Wakefield, spoke about the case.
Appearing on the Crime and Investigation network's The Perfect Murder?, he said he told his then-friend Prout that if he had done "something silly" he would "spend the rest of his life in jail, or always looking over his shoulder".
Prout was convicted in January 2010 of killing Kate amid an acrimonious divorce battle on Bonfire Night 2007. She wanted £800,000 from the sale of £1.2 million Redhill Farm but to keep it, Prout offered her £600,000. On November 5 she vanished, without taking clothes, money, valuables or her car. Prout reported her missing five days later, after another of her brothers, Richard Wakefield and her former partner David Edge persuaded him to contact police.
After a massive search of the farm and surrounding countryside Gloucestershire Constabulary found no evidence of Kate, 55, inside or outside the property.
There were no traces of blood, or signs of a struggle, but the cadaver dog indicated to police that a dead body had been in the living room.
Gloucestershire Constabulary drew together a mass of circumstantial evidence that pointed to Prout having strangled his wife with his bare hands and burying her body.
A jury of 11 men and women found him guilty by a majority of 10 to one and he was sentenced to life in prison. He must serve a minimum of 18 years.
His family continues to protest his innocence but her family has pleaded with Prout to reveal where his wife is so they can give her a decent burial.
The programme, part of the channel's Nightmare in Suburbia series, also featured Detective Chief Inspector Neil Kelly who led the investigation, Kate's brother Richard Wakefield and his wife Linda.
"I thought it was quite a good programme in how it put the case over," said Richard Wakefield, who lives in Far Oakridge, near Stroud.
"It was just the truth. At least everybody can see what really happened."
When it is said that a dog's alert needs "forensic' evidence to back it up, that does NOT mean scientific evidence of blood DNA, etc
It means forensic in the sense of 'to be placed before the Court = forum" ( from the Latin)
Here is is clear that nothing else was found. There were No traces of blood, nor of a fight.
Nevertheless he was convicted.
The family continued to protest his innocence - as they do, having no chance to look dispassionately at the evidence, and being blinded by their natural love
BUT THEN
Oh, bu***** !
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2062923/Kate-Prout-murder-Husband-Adrian-confesses-shows-police-Red-Hill-Farm-grave.html#ixzz3ZoUmUaqI'I confess, I’ll show you where I buried my wife': After 4 years, millionaire killer leads police to woodland grave
Adrian Prout convicted of murdering wife despite no corpse
Police: 'He has agreed to visit the farm to point out the exact location'
Originally claimed wife Kate had gone missing after a series of rows
Diggers and specialist search teams arrive at his former home this morning
He is believed to have confessed to the murder to his fiancée on Wednesday who then told detectives the following day
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Some on twitter are trying to diss this dog as he didn't actually find the body. I don't know.
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