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Post by ufercoffy on 10.02.11 9:26

Maddie Killed And Dumped Claims Lawyer

Jan 12 2008 By Tom Pettifor

MADELEINE McCann was raped, murdered and dumped in a reservoir within 48 hours of going missing, it has been claimed.

Portuguese lawyer Marcos Aragao Correia said he was contacted by a gang who gave details of her death on May 6 - three days after she vanished.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/2008/01/12/maddie-killed-and-dumped-claims-lawyer-86908-20282896/
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Why didn't the McCanns sue this lawyer instead of paying him to target Amaral?

Who else haven't the McCanns sued apart from the Gaspars who suggested that paedophilia was involved in this case?

Michael Shrimpton said Maddie died by lethal injection - has he been sued for damaging the search?

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Post by PeterMac on 10.02.11 12:41

They have also not sued, nor apparently even tried to get their money back from
Metodo3
Halligen
and the rest.

Bearing in mind that this was FUND money, the Trustees bear a heavy responsibility, legally as well as morally, for lack of due diligence in selecting these people, and for failing to make proper efforts to secure the return of the funds.

Also of course, for 'damaging the search'...
• The bloke in Devon who heard people speaking 'fluent portuguese' though he spoke not a word himself
• The drunk businessman on the stag party in Barcelona, who reported the Beckham sighting 2 YEARS late
• The Berber family in Morocco, for daring to have a blond daughter in a public place without authority
• Edgar, for focusing the attention of the world on the semi circle of 10 miles from PdL, and refusing to back down or let people think a search was still worth while
• Mitchell, for just about everything he has said or done so far
• Tanner, ditto

This list is a long one. Their inactivity and silence is most telling. The book, with its particular "Version of the truth" will be most revealing.
Or not. Probably.

Oh, and not forgetting Carter-Ruck, for stepping in with their hobnailed boots, and making it clear by the very presence that there was something very important to hide. Without C-R we might just have thought this was about a little girl, missing in a foreign country. WITH them we Know, and are certain so that we are sure, that the McCanns have something to hide. Something big. Something which dares not speak its name.

Wouldn't it be ironical if C-R ultimately were shown to have provided the impetus which brought the whole edifice down. They personally won't care. They get paid anyway. They are lawyers.
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Post by Judge Mental on 10.02.11 14:26

The McCanns would not have a leg to stand on if somebody were to stand up to their threats. One is still waiting to discover why the Daily Express were so passive winkwink
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Post by PeterMac on 10.02.11 14:58

And we know that they are threats, and nothing more.
[I say 'nothing more' though the scale of the threat is enormous, and no normal person could be criticised for giving in in face of that threat.]

Ever since Mitchell used the words "assumption" and "working hypothesis" the cat has been out of the bag. Would it not be even more ironic if he turned out to be their very own 'Angel of Death'. The Nemesis for their Hubris
On another web site a significant article has been re-instated in its entirety, and is now available for anyone interested to read.
One hopes the press will now find themselves able to use words they had previously not, and perhaps even to frame questions they were previously to cowardly to put.
One hopes, but does not expect.
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Post by theolivebranch on 10.02.11 15:56

@PeterMac wrote:And we know that they are threats, and nothing more.
[I say 'nothing more' though the scale of the threat is enormous, and no normal person could be criticised for giving in in face of that threat.]

Ever since Mitchell used the words "assumption" and "working hypothesis" the cat has been out of the bag. Would it not be even more ironic if he turned out to be their very own 'Angel of Death'. The Nemesis for their Hubris
On another web site a significant article has been re-instated in its entirety, and is now available for anyone interested to read.
One hopes the press will now find themselves able to use words they had previously not, and perhaps even to frame questions they were previously to cowardly to put.
One hopes, but does not expect.

Good afternoon PeterMac, the threat is indeed enormous and I for one am affraid though getting less so as each day passes.
You have mentioned a significant article on another web site. Any chance of you giving more information please?
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Post by HiDeHo on 10.02.11 17:37

@Judge Mental wrote:The McCanns would not have a leg to stand on if somebody were to stand up to their threats. One is still waiting to discover why the Daily Express were so passive People the McCanns have NOT sued 302873
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Richard Desmond using Carter-Ruck to defend him a year later.

If the McCanns run out of money can he use C-R to get his money back WHEN they are convicted?

I always felt he had something up his sleeve

http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?storycode=42991

Sunday Express pays damages for investment fund libel



3 February 2009
By Paul McNally


The Sunday Express has agreed to pay 'substantial' but undisclosed libel damages after falsely alleging fund management executives had dishonestly kept £1bn of their clients' money.

The paper printed an apology this weekend to Pentagon Capital Management, its chief executive Lewis Chester, managing director Jafar Omid and founder David Chester, over claims made in a July 2008 story headlined: "David Cameron’s friend and £1bn he won’t give back."

Libel lawyers Carter Ruck represented Express Newspapers, proprietor Richard Desmond, Sunday Express editor Martin Townsend and journalist David Parsley.

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Post by Judge Mental on 10.02.11 18:11

@PeterMac wrote:And we know that they are threats, and nothing more.
[I say 'nothing more' though the scale of the threat is enormous, and no normal person could be criticised for giving in in face of that threat.]

Ever since Mitchell used the words "assumption" and "working hypothesis" the cat has been out of the bag. Would it not be even more ironic if he turned out to be their very own 'Angel of Death'. The Nemesis for their Hubris
On another web site a significant article has been re-instated in its entirety, and is now available for anyone interested to read.
One hopes the press will now find themselves able to use words they had previously not, and perhaps even to frame questions they were previously to cowardly to put.
One hopes, but does not expect.

A normal person, without chattels and wherewithal has yet to take them on, but are said to be considering it. More power to their elbow ay? big grin

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Post by PeterMac on 10.02.11 18:54

If I am not stepping on toes, the article to which I referred is on the MF site,
1.0 How did the alleged abductor snatch Madeleine in a time slot of no more than 3-4 minutes? by Barbara Nottage
Very interesting read. Try being devil's advocate. Try acting as defence lawyer. Try destroying it thorough logic or evidence.
You may find the only way anyone could attack it would be by 'argumentum ad baculum', or 'ad hominem, abusive'. The first of those Carter-Ruck tried, the second will be found on other sites.
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Post by Judge Mental on 10.02.11 19:10

laughat

They are stuffed.
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Post by Magpie on 11.02.11 0:18

Good Evening Everyone,
I don't know if this was posted, I wrote it down in my new vid info (video description, You Tube, Madeleine McCann - A Sabotaged Investigation): with all the reputation-bleaching means they've got, why didn't they ram into the GASPARS?

People the McCanns have NOT sued 110921 imo cause... they can't!!!

Ah I'm in a good mood People, I am!

Nice being here, this is my 2nd post just. Greetings to All! Mag People the McCanns have NOT sued 260239
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Post by Magpie on 11.02.11 0:23

Well obviously, I had tried to read all BUT the main piece, so Author (underCoffee or forgive me for mis-spelling), my apologies, here corrected:

"Who else haven't the McCanns sued apart from the Gaspars who suggested that paedophilia was involved in this case?" as you wrote. Yes but GOOD question indeed. Why didn't they?!!!, People the McCanns have NOT sued 94409 eh?!
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Post by PeterMac on 11.02.11 8:38

@Judge Mental wrote:
They are stuffed.
And let us not ever forget Kate and Gerry's own words, "If you remain quiet you are as guilty as those who took her."
Quite so Mrs M. We are not remaining quiet, nor will we until the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth is finally revealed.
Can't wait for the book by the way.
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Post by Guest on 11.02.11 10:37

It would appear that Kate has remained quiet until her 'version of the truth' comes out in the book! So she appears to have condemned herself by her very own words imo

Lets not forget the friends either who have stayed quiet instead of attending the reconstruction!
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Post by PeterMac on 11.02.11 11:37

Cherry wrote:It would appear that Kate has remained quite until her 'version of the truth' comes out in the book! So she appears to have condemned herself by her very own words imo. Lets not forget the friends either who have stayed quiet instead of attending the reconstruction!

Which is why I think C-R will have expunged most things of any interest at all from the book. They cannot possibly include anything which is not already in the public domain.
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Post by PeterMac on 11.02.11 16:52

Clearly they must also sue the dog handler, who so negligently allowed his dogs to mark for cadaverine and human blood in places where there obviously was none, and further actually wrote a police statement explaining what they had indicated.
That must be worth millions, as the officer has patently committed perjury !

And Mark Warner for telling the world that the shutters were not jemmied open, when the McCanns had said they were, and ...
in fact they must sue anyone who has said anything contrary to any one of the various stories they have come up with so far. Which list includes Tanner and Mitchell !
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Post by Magpie on 12.02.11 21:04

@PeterMac wrote:
@Judge Mental wrote:
They are stuffed.
And let us not ever forget Kate and Gerry's own words, "If you remain quiet you are as guilty as those who took her."
Quite so Mrs M. We are not remaining quiet, nor will we until the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth is finally revealed.
Can't wait for the book by the way.
This is typically a sentence of guilt. It was like when Gerry was on TV at the beginning, think it was ITV but I could never retrieve this footage, he was describing the 'raptor' after Tanner had come out with her BS, well- reciting what she was told to say, Wink-, and pointed to his own hair, described in details that the culprit had a parting THERE, even adding :"And if you look at me right now,..." the channel even cut him off then - it felt as they were thinking, 'better stop him there or it will look as if HE had done it', People the McCanns have NOT sued 145161

+ "Find the body and prove that she's dased", 'erm', if she was sold as body-parts indeed there's no way any body would ever be found, in the context and coming from HIM, didn't this sound well guilty too?

But let's be careful about buying the book, I too would love to read it -specially that I'm considering a (NON COMMERCIAL) project on it-, however I do not want to give them ONE penny, or I would try to minimise the damage People the McCanns have NOT sued 82678 , so I have already asked around who in my friends circle would be with me to buy it, I need 9 of my friends so that it would not cost too much, to do a read / scan and send around scheme. BUT so far I haven't had any positive response.
I think that the book is around £17 on Amazon, it's on re-sale now, so 10 people buying it in common would make around £1.70 each + the P&P.

Because it WON'T be available to read for free on the net, knowing the McCanns!!! lol.

Remember if you all buy it individually you will increase their wealth -gained all on poor Maddy's back- and by doing so, you would contribute to the money-scam, that goes against Madeleine's interest.
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Post by Guest on 12.02.11 23:42

'better stop him there or it will look as if HE had done it', People the McCanns have NOT sued 145161

perhaps he was trying to tell us something. People the McCanns have NOT sued 992298
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Post by Magpie on 13.02.11 21:53

Yes, Cherry, lol, what an irony.

* typo in previous post: I can't find a way to edit this but the correct form was " "Find the body and prove that she's dead".

Don't know where to post this, there's a new blog: http://thelostmarketingploy.blogspot.com/
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Post by littlepixie on 13.02.11 22:56

How can that place be non-commercial when it is advertising FakedAbduction, I don't get it.
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Post by listener on 13.02.11 23:48

Thanks for the link Magpie People the McCanns have NOT sued 847771 Good video.
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Post by Magpie on 14.02.11 9:19

@littlepixie wrote:How can that place be non-commercial when it is advertising FakedAbduction, I don't get it.
the place doesn't appeal for donations nor sells anything. It's not Stevo who holds it and the owner doesn't have anything to do, moneywise, with advertised sites. It also advertises for Amaral's book, free advert for the 2 books. So this is how it's a non commercial place.

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By the way, blog apart, I'll give a personal comment back to you: Stevo deserves all the money he can make with this book. He is the one who wrote it, it it didn't take him 2 days! And it's very well documented. Smashing! In English, unbanned, because factual. Nothing anyone can do about it, except for ordering it and getting informed. I lend mine to my friends (for free! People the McCanns have NOT sued 687583 ).
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Post by Magpie on 14.02.11 9:25

@listener wrote:Thanks for the link Magpie People the McCanns have NOT sued 847771 Good video.
Thank you, I hope that the viddie reaches its goal. One drop in the oceans but... it's published now.
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Post by ufercoffy on 16.02.11 18:32

Did the McCanns ever sue the Telegraph for this?

Madeleine McCann 'died from overdose'

By Gary Cleland 7:00AM BST 14 Sep 2007



Madeleine McCann died from an overdose of sleeping tablets, reports in a French newspaper claimed yesterday.

Guilhem Battut, an investigative reporter for the French tabloid France Soir, said Portuguese police had given prosecutors a file detailing how they thought Madeleine had died.

Battut - an experienced journalist who has worked on a number of major inquiries - claims police believe that evidence found in the McCanns' hire car will "prove that the little girl had ingested medicines, without doubt sleeping pills, in large quantities".

A source at the newspaper claimed: "We are not simply repeating rumours carried in other papers. This is not a theory, but a fact contained in hard evidence in the hands of the Portuguese authorities.

"It is all very well putting theories and opinions forward, but in the end this case will be decided on evidence. As journalists, we have been trying to establish what evidence is available."


DNA evidence which has reportedly been found in the hire car includes hair, blood and bodily fluids which match Madeleine's.


Police are said to want to examine the vehicle again. It is currently being kept in a safe place by the family who are considering having their own tests carried out on it as they strive to prove their innocence.

Portuguese police are said to be drawing up a list of 40 new questions that they want to put to Mrs McCann. But British forensic experts expressed doubts over the claim.

Alan Baker, of the independent forensic science organisation Bericon, said: "These samples are likely to be far from ideal. If it is just a smear or dried deposit you could detect the drug but not how much."

Last night friends of the family dismissed the latest speculation. Gerry McCann reportedly told a friend: "There are large craters in every one of these theories, in these ludicrous accusations.'

"As far as Kate and I are concerned there is no evidence to suggest that Madeleine is dead. We are 100 per cent together on this, not one grain of suspicion about each other."

A close friend of Mrs McCann's said: "She is a gentle mother who loves her children very much.''
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1563090/Madeleine-McCann-died-from-overdose.html


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