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Post by Guest on 25.05.13 14:42

Something I didn't notice before, why does Kate bring a different blanket to Madeleine's birthday service?



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Post by tigger on 25.05.13 15:28

Finn wrote:Something I didn't notice before, why does Kate bring a different blanket to Madeleine's birthday service?



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Ghosh! A white blanket, certainly not a 'pink Princess blanket' who is she trying to fool? The 'shutters - cuddlecat - blanket' was the order of the day in the press. Perhaps she was helping it along? Not the same blanket however.

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Post by Guest on 25.05.13 15:44

It makes the whole thing look even more staged than ever. Makes me wonder which blanket she gave to the dog handler.

Madeleine was almost 4, well past the need for multiple baby blankets.
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Post by Nina on 25.05.13 16:22

And here was me thinking that she had taken a shawl or cardie to cover her bare arms and chest in church, her being a good Christian woman.

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Post by Guest on 25.05.13 17:21

It looks like a cardigan to me. Practical thinking. Churches tend not to be heated and the weather early May tends to cool off quickly at the end of the day.

NB tended to cool off in earlier years. Nowadays they start cool and stay cool for the rest of the day ...
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Post by Guest on 25.05.13 17:33

http://www.people.co.uk/news/tm_headline%3Dmaddie-parents--smile-of-courage&method%3Dfull&objectid%3D19095730&siteid%3D93463-name_page.html&cid=1116232081&ei=2hFHRsDZH56YqAPTjOm2Bw

Last night Kate arrived for Mass clutching a blanket from her missing daughter's bed. She was wearing shorts and a yellow top and held Maddie's Cuddle Cat tightly as she held her husband's hand. Green and yellow ribbons have been tied to the church doors - green the Portuguese symbol of hope and yellow in remembrance of missing Maddie.

A shawl/cardigan makes a lot of sense so if I've made a misleading statement I apologize. But here is where the information came from.
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Post by Guest on 25.05.13 17:53

"Last night Kate arrived for Mass clutching a blanket from her missing daughter's bed."

You're completely forgiven inasmuch as I'm concerned, Finn. I'm thinking completely different about the sloppy, tear-jerking journalist The missing blanket - Page 4 687583
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Post by tigger on 25.05.13 18:00

Finn wrote:http://www.people.co.uk/news/tm_headline%3Dmaddie-parents--smile-of-courage&method%3Dfull&objectid%3D19095730&siteid%3D93463-name_page.html&cid=1116232081&ei=2hFHRsDZH56YqAPTjOm2Bw

Last night Kate arrived for Mass clutching a blanket from her missing daughter's bed. She was wearing shorts and a yellow top and held Maddie's Cuddle Cat tightly as she held her husband's hand. Green and yellow ribbons have been tied to the church doors - green the Portuguese symbol of hope and yellow in remembrance of missing Maddie.

A shawl/cardigan makes a lot of sense so if I've made a misleading statement I apologize. But here is where the information came from.

Wearing shorts and a short-sleeved top - the item in her hand is clearly a fleece of some sort, the thick -rolled hem makes it a blanket. Yes, she was ticking all the boxes except suitable and respectful dress for church.

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Post by Guest on 25.05.13 18:55

I agree, from the many photos seeing them enter and leaving churches, they don't have a "roman catholic" sense of dressing ...
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Post by Ayniia on 05.06.13 15:04

Châtelaine wrote:I agree, from the many photos seeing them enter and leaving churches, they don't have a "roman catholic" sense of dressing ...
Yes they didn't dressed properly for church, but PDL is a tourist place so no one would bother with that and especially in the first days when every popular there wanted to comfort them and give them any support they could. I read in another topic something about the dress code to meetings with the Pope, that was most shocking as Kate didn't even covered her hair.
As to the missing blanket, it's as missing as the sports bag, come on Mcs we have the blanket on the first PJ pictures,but maybe the PJ /GNR were so sloppy that that first night the "abductor " came back, got into the apartment while the officers were munching on sardines and smoking and took the blanket and the bag ...

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Post by marconi on 05.06.13 15:28

It is very well possible that the PJ allowed the blanket and the bag to be taken, on purpose. Just to identify leads and to incriminate the perpetrators, to check if it was an abduction or not.

I still hope that pink fibres were found in the boot of the car. police don't tell everything when a case is not yet solved.
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Post by PeterMac on 05.06.13 15:38

@marconi wrote:I still hope that pink fibres were found in the boot of the car. police don't tell everything when a case is not yet solved.

But there is an explanation for everything the police found, or did not find.

Part of the standard evidence planting kit issued on pass out from Training School includes human blood (or use your own if you choose to), a small rotting sea bass, and bunches of fibres of different colours and types, depending what the suspects say in their statements - (so difficult when suspects change their minds)
A small vial of human cadaverine is also included in the Detective Training kit, but is not issued to Uniform officers.
More Senior Officers are issued with explosive and firearms residues in handy "use once and throw away" sachets. The previous glass phials were found to be unreliable.
And a handwritten but unsigned all-purpose confession is carried at all times by all officers, in case of emergency.

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Post by tigger on 05.06.13 15:40

What really interests me is that she is holding a blanket, which we shall call Blanket nr. 2 (white not pink).
The pink blanket aka Blanket nr. 1 was:
one of two things (cuddlecat being the other) by which Kate knew immediately that Maddie had been abducted
the item given only once to the dogs to sniff (the ones who arrived around 1/2 am on the fourth) these dogs did crowd control so not so good at sniffing?
the item which - unlike cuddlecat - disappeared from view between the first and second set of photographs taken by the PJ
the blanket nr.1 should clearly be as cherished by Kate as Cuddlecat and indeed it was already famed as one of the two props from which it was impossible to separate Maddie.

Failing Blanket nr. 1 being available on the 12th, we see possibly only once another blanket - this time white - being clutched by Kate. So how many favourite blankets did Maddie have?
Perhaps the white one was dropped from the props as it was too obviously not the famed Pink Princess Blanket? People might wonder where it was?
Blanket nr. 2 also looks brand-new to me, rather like Cuddlecat, who must have been washed dozens of times if she was given it as a baby, yet looked brand-new still four years later.

Why was the pink blanket, which must have been replete with Maddie's scent as she slept clutching it each night, not given to the proper tracking dogs the following day?
Where indeed is the pink blanket.

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Post by tigger on 05.06.13 18:32

Just to add: I was sure I'd read somewhere that the very first vision of JT included a blanket and here it is.


A friend of Madeleine's parents saw girl being carried away Timesonline[/size]

David Brown in Praia da Luz May 27, 2007

A family friend of Gerry and Kate McCann has told police she saw a blonde-haired girl being carried away from an Algarve holiday apartment wrapped in a blanket at the time Madeleine is believed to have been snatched from her room.

The key witness, who is wracked with guilt, was on her way to dinner with Gerry and Kate McCann when she saw the man close to the open window of the bedroom where four-year-old Madeleine had been sleeping. The girl he was carrying was wearing pink pyjamas, the same as Madeleine's.
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Initially I think JT saw a 'bundle' man? Thought to be a child in a blanket? Then later it was a child very much without a blanket.

Now JT has form in mentioning things that are not there, she didn't have jeans and she didn't have a fleece and later on I believe the child didn't have a blanket. Certainly by the time of the rogatory she definitely didn't have a blanket. thinking

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Post by bobbin on 05.06.13 18:47

@tigger wrote:Just to add: I was sure I'd read somewhere that the very first vision of JT included a blanket and here it is.


A friend of Madeleine's parents saw girl being carried away Timesonline[/size]

David Brown in Praia da Luz May 27, 2007

A family friend of Gerry and Kate McCann has told police she saw a blonde-haired girl being carried away from an Algarve holiday apartment wrapped in a blanket at the time Madeleine is believed to have been snatched from her room.

The key witness, who is wracked with guilt, was on her way to dinner with Gerry and Kate McCann when she saw the man close to the open window of the bedroom where four-year-old Madeleine had been sleeping. The girl he was carrying was wearing pink pyjamas, the same as Madeleine's.
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Initially I think JT saw a 'bundle' man? Thought to be a child in a blanket? Then later it was a child very much without a blanket.

Now JT has form in mentioning things that are not there, she didn't have jeans and she didn't have a fleece and later on I believe the child didn't have a blanket. Certainly by the time of the rogatory she definitely didn't have a blanket. The missing blanket - Page 4 234726
So glad you found this tigger. I was sure the original had been an unidentifiable, pair of feet/legs 'wrapped' in a blanket vision. Then it later became more identifiable as a pair of pyjamas with feet, then the pinkish, frilly, flowery effect pyjama bottoms, so visible in the darkness although the guy's face wasn't. It's so good to be going back over old territory, with so much of the jigsaw now put in place, and so many versions having 'metamorphosed' since the originals. The missing blanket - Page 4 259100
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Post by Praiaaa on 05.06.13 18:53

[quote="Ayniiamaybe the PJ /GNR were so sloppy that that first night the "abductor " came back, got into the apartment while the officers were munching on sardines and smoking [/quote]
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Post by PeterMac on 05.06.13 18:54

And let us never forget the THREE identical pairs of pyjamas.

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Post by Praiaaa on 05.06.13 18:56

@PeterMac wrote:
@marconi wrote:I still hope that pink fibres were found in the boot of the car. police don't tell everything when a case is not yet solved.

But there is an explanation for everything the police found, or did not find.

Part of the standard evidence planting kit issued on pass out from Training School includes human blood (or use your own if you choose to), a small rotting sea bass, and bunches of fibres of different colours and types, depending what the suspects say in their statements - (so difficult when suspects change their minds)
A small vial of human cadaverine is also included in the Detective Training kit, but is not issued to Uniform officers.
More Senior Officers are issued with explosive and firearms residues in handy "use once and throw away" sachets. The previous glass phials were found to be unreliable.
And a handwritten but unsigned all-purpose confession is carried at all times by all officers, in case of emergency.

Sorry, I know this is serious stuff, but this did make me actually laugh out loud... Partly because you can imagine Clarrie or the McScams coming out with something not so different
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Post by Guest on 05.06.13 20:58

@PeterMac wrote:And let us never forget the THREE identical pairs of pyjamas.
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Bizarre as it is, that's what they want us to live with ...
And believe it ...
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Post by aiyoyo on 06.06.13 6:20

Châtelaine wrote:
@PeterMac wrote:And let us never forget the THREE identical pairs of pyjamas.
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Bizarre as it is, that's what they want us to live with ...
And believe it ...
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Maybe she bought it in bulk during SALE. eyebrows

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Post by worriedmum on 06.06.13 11:29

..but not toothbrushes...
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Post by aiyoyo on 06.06.13 11:31

3 identical pair of pyjamas for 1 child; and 1 toothbrush for 3 children.

Makes economical sense....... ya! big grin
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Post by Ayniia on 18.10.13 16:20

Guest wrote:This is the officer who claims it was a pink/orange blanket.   The missing blanket - Page 4 234726

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/PJ/CARLOS-LACAO.htm
04 02 Outros Apensos IV Vol II (02 d) Pages 290 to 291
Policia Judiciaria Portimao DIC
Date of Inspection: 13th June 2007
COLLECTION OF BIOLOGICAL VESTIGES
By the Technical Police Nucleus
Assistant Specialist Irene Trovao
Report of Collection of Biological Vestiges

Crime: Disappearance of Minor
Date: The disappearance occurred on the night of 3rd May 2007.
Place: Lagos. EN 125 in the Portimao-Lagos direction, turn before Odiaxere to Varzea do Arau. Arao road, km 5.1, next to the road on the right about 4 metres from the verge.
Description of the site: Shrub land (at the beginning of a dirt track).
Vestiges Collected
1 blanket in a poor state of conservation, pink on one side and orange on the other.
Observations: From indications written to a Dutch newspaper.
Signed
Irene Trovao

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I found this mention of a pink / orange blanket found but I can't find the results of the analysis on it, if any were done, can anyone help please?

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Post by Hicks on 23.06.14 14:30

Just found this thread while looking for something else.

I didn't know that there had been an independent witness who saw a man carrying a child 'wrapped in a blanket', by the church, heading towards the beach on the night Madeleine went missing. Apparently the dogs detected the scent of death on this route.

Please see in first post.

This got me thinking. Jane Tanner said in her original statement that the child she saw being carried on the night was wrapped in a blanket. Did she later have to omit the blanket from her story as Madeleine WAS removed from the apartment and carried off towards the beach wrapped in a blanket?

I have little doubt that Madeleine was taken to a house/apartment/ building nearby and stored there until a proper plan was formulated. GM came back to the apartment with the blanket and placed it on the bed to set the scene that Madeleine didn't just wander off with her blanket, she was snatched quickly and taken. Imo.

 I believe it is possible that the blanket disappeared due to the fact the McCann's realised that it had become contaminated as the dogs had picked up the scent of death on the route Madeleine's body HAD been taken. They probably destroyed it.

The blanket is perhaps central as one appears on a child being carried as seen by Jane Tanner. Oops JT dropped GM in it there. A blanket on another child being carried near the church as seen by an independent witness. Pink blanket on the bed, photographed by the PJ. Pink blanket on the shelf, as said by the McCann's . Pink blanket gone! 


Due to the above reasoning I now think that the Smith sighting was a red herring, perhaps just an innocent father carrying his sleeping child home. The Smith sighting never really did seem to fit in well with the events that evening. 

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t3318-irish-witness-does-this-make-jane-tanner-a-liar.
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Post by worriedmum on 23.03.15 10:50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dXtBWNCFt7U#t=527

In this clip from 'Madeleine Was Here', Gerry talks about seeing Madeleine asleep with her toy and her blanket.


From the way he says it I am guessing it belonged to Madeleine and was her comforter.

At what point was it requested by the PJ?
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