Buried on the hill or is this the timeline of moving Maddie's body?
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Buried on the hill or is this the timeline of moving Maddie's body?
by HiDeHo 10.12.24 14:35
Eighteen months ago I realised that a good portion of what we know, fell into place once put into a 'timeline'. The 'TRIANGLE' 'PRAYING AT MARINA' 'DA TELEGRAAF' 'DOGS' and 'HUELVA'.
I knew that researching this timeline was huge and likely would not be feasible, timewise, and although I had one of our Facebook members eager to help (which I was very appreciative of) when researching its not only compiling 'facts' it's about retaining info that often doesn't appear important at the time, but may help 'glue' the info together.
I knew the basics of what we think was possible. Maybe hidden in a freezer in the apartment that Goncalo Amaral referred to. I knew Russell O’Brien had made a suspicious trip to Aljezur on May 7th. I was never able to study the Da Telegraaf investigation in Areo.
There was a suspicious phone call in June between Russell O’Brien and Gerry alluding to a ‘Barn’ in Sagres. The Triangle trips were very curious and from my memory I recalled that the trips stopped on July 28th and wondered if that is when they removed her body to, maybe, Huelva. (The police seemed to think that is where her body may have been moved.
I then realized that Gerry’s trip back from Washington when he overshot PdL on his return was on July 27th and with the looming visit by the DOGS on July 31st, that could have been reason for the possible movement on July 28th.
I put it on hold, ALWAYS waiting for time to dig deeply into the details. I released a few Youtube ‘Live’ videos but then… Bernt Stellander released his book “the Sudden Impulse’ with the MAJOR claim that Maddie was buried on the hill.
That’s when I realized I HAD to do something to show the possible/likely timeline of how and when Maddie’s body was moved.
I checked his timeline and apparently June 2nd is the date of the ‘supposed burial’. The date DID allow for my timeline to ‘fit’ but I soon realized that he not only refused to address my questions on an FB thread…he had actually BLOCKED me prior to any communication with me.
I always knew my research would be an issue with him but ‘blocking’ me was very ‘telling’.
Since then I have spent the last 6 months, delving into every forum/group news article/pj files/saved info etc etc. and am currently not only shocked by what I am discovering but also fairly confident that my thoughts are on the right track.
It seems that every time I research a specific issue, the PJ have already ‘been there!! That has happened throught my research over the years and I have never had to change any of my thoughts due to someone pointing out a contradiction (not saying that will always be the case but I’m always open to criticism.
My effort is NOT TO SOLVE the case…I believe the police have most of what they need, just not the smoking gun to prove, but what I DO BELIEVE is that the McCanns worst fear is that the UK public learn the truth (similar to how it was for them on their return to UK when HANOVER won an award for changing public opinion from HOSTILE to SYMPATHETIC.)
We are aware that although we cannot always use MEDIA REPORTS as ‘fact’ we know that the Portuguese Press reports, particularly the SOL newspaper gave us a lot of the info that we already knew when the files came out.
I try to use only ‘news’ info that appears to be credible, and searching for other complimentary research to try to ‘prove’ eg Phone records and Pings.
I have a long way to go with this research, but I think the questionable phone call between Russell O’Brien (on David Payne’s phone) is a good example of WHY this is such an important effort for me.
By the way… I LOVE being questioned if there is anything any of you are skeptical about. It gives me the opportunity to second guess myself because I DO NOT NEED TO BE RIGHT IT’S THE TRUTH THAT’S IMPORTANT!!
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE RESEARCH REGARDING THE QUESTIONABLE (DENIED) PHONE CALL IDENTIFIED AS CLOSE TO A DISUSED BARN IN SAGRES - FB POST:
MADELEINE'S DNA AND FIBRES FROM THE SCENIC LOCATED NEAR A DISUSED BARN IN SAGRES !?
This is huge and I'm dedicating my time right now to following a timeline of where Maddie's body may have been moved between May and August 2007.
I have the basic outline but I am currently collating an updated version of my 'Calendar' which has all the info I can find for each day (120 days..lol) including Kate's Diary, Gerry's blog, PJ info, news reports and Phone pings. I want to see what they did every day...who they spoke to, particularly at questionable times and thanks to the help of BEN SALMON'S mum I am able to access his great research which includes NAME DETAILS of who each phone call was to and from and how they may relate to the case! AMAZING!
Ben’s mum is so happy to know his research is going to be used in, what I believe, is MAJOR and I know it is going to shine some light on what they thought we would never figure out. (keep in mind most of what I am doing is already known by the PJ.)
The time and effort is, obviously, worth it to me and I hope you will agree and not consider it a ‘conspiracy’ theory.
It is FAR from that!!
I need to show you the DETAILS that will highlight exactly why I feel confident that this is how they likely 'hid' little Maddie's body (and this is just the beginning… there is SO much more!
Thanks to Ben Salmon for the huge amount of research that I can now use to expose the 'truth'!! Rest in Peace Ben. I 'know' you are watching
This is just the beginning...there is SO much more!!
I knew that researching this timeline was huge and likely would not be feasible, timewise, and although I had one of our Facebook members eager to help (which I was very appreciative of) when researching its not only compiling 'facts' it's about retaining info that often doesn't appear important at the time, but may help 'glue' the info together.
I knew the basics of what we think was possible. Maybe hidden in a freezer in the apartment that Goncalo Amaral referred to. I knew Russell O’Brien had made a suspicious trip to Aljezur on May 7th. I was never able to study the Da Telegraaf investigation in Areo.
There was a suspicious phone call in June between Russell O’Brien and Gerry alluding to a ‘Barn’ in Sagres. The Triangle trips were very curious and from my memory I recalled that the trips stopped on July 28th and wondered if that is when they removed her body to, maybe, Huelva. (The police seemed to think that is where her body may have been moved.
I then realized that Gerry’s trip back from Washington when he overshot PdL on his return was on July 27th and with the looming visit by the DOGS on July 31st, that could have been reason for the possible movement on July 28th.
I put it on hold, ALWAYS waiting for time to dig deeply into the details. I released a few Youtube ‘Live’ videos but then… Bernt Stellander released his book “the Sudden Impulse’ with the MAJOR claim that Maddie was buried on the hill.
That’s when I realized I HAD to do something to show the possible/likely timeline of how and when Maddie’s body was moved.
I checked his timeline and apparently June 2nd is the date of the ‘supposed burial’. The date DID allow for my timeline to ‘fit’ but I soon realized that he not only refused to address my questions on an FB thread…he had actually BLOCKED me prior to any communication with me.
I always knew my research would be an issue with him but ‘blocking’ me was very ‘telling’.
Since then I have spent the last 6 months, delving into every forum/group news article/pj files/saved info etc etc. and am currently not only shocked by what I am discovering but also fairly confident that my thoughts are on the right track.
It seems that every time I research a specific issue, the PJ have already ‘been there!! That has happened throught my research over the years and I have never had to change any of my thoughts due to someone pointing out a contradiction (not saying that will always be the case but I’m always open to criticism.
My effort is NOT TO SOLVE the case…I believe the police have most of what they need, just not the smoking gun to prove, but what I DO BELIEVE is that the McCanns worst fear is that the UK public learn the truth (similar to how it was for them on their return to UK when HANOVER won an award for changing public opinion from HOSTILE to SYMPATHETIC.)
We are aware that although we cannot always use MEDIA REPORTS as ‘fact’ we know that the Portuguese Press reports, particularly the SOL newspaper gave us a lot of the info that we already knew when the files came out.
I try to use only ‘news’ info that appears to be credible, and searching for other complimentary research to try to ‘prove’ eg Phone records and Pings.
I have a long way to go with this research, but I think the questionable phone call between Russell O’Brien (on David Payne’s phone) is a good example of WHY this is such an important effort for me.
By the way… I LOVE being questioned if there is anything any of you are skeptical about. It gives me the opportunity to second guess myself because I DO NOT NEED TO BE RIGHT IT’S THE TRUTH THAT’S IMPORTANT!!
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE RESEARCH REGARDING THE QUESTIONABLE (DENIED) PHONE CALL IDENTIFIED AS CLOSE TO A DISUSED BARN IN SAGRES - FB POST:
MADELEINE'S DNA AND FIBRES FROM THE SCENIC LOCATED NEAR A DISUSED BARN IN SAGRES !?
This is huge and I'm dedicating my time right now to following a timeline of where Maddie's body may have been moved between May and August 2007.
I have the basic outline but I am currently collating an updated version of my 'Calendar' which has all the info I can find for each day (120 days..lol) including Kate's Diary, Gerry's blog, PJ info, news reports and Phone pings. I want to see what they did every day...who they spoke to, particularly at questionable times and thanks to the help of BEN SALMON'S mum I am able to access his great research which includes NAME DETAILS of who each phone call was to and from and how they may relate to the case! AMAZING!
Ben’s mum is so happy to know his research is going to be used in, what I believe, is MAJOR and I know it is going to shine some light on what they thought we would never figure out. (keep in mind most of what I am doing is already known by the PJ.)
The time and effort is, obviously, worth it to me and I hope you will agree and not consider it a ‘conspiracy’ theory.
It is FAR from that!!
I need to show you the DETAILS that will highlight exactly why I feel confident that this is how they likely 'hid' little Maddie's body (and this is just the beginning… there is SO much more!
Thanks to Ben Salmon for the huge amount of research that I can now use to expose the 'truth'!! Rest in Peace Ben. I 'know' you are watching
This is just the beginning...there is SO much more!!
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Re: Buried on the hill or is this the timeline of moving Maddie's body?
by HiDeHo 10.12.24 15:40
DATES OF INTEREST During May.(In progress)
MONDAY April 30 – Possible visit to Sagres
SATURDAY MAY 5th USE OF CAR
Patricia Cameron
We arrived in Portugal on Saturday morning, where a friend lent us a car to use ( NOTE:Who is this 'friend' and did they lend a car to McCanns during holiday or 'help' after Madeleine died? - Police asked witnesses if they saw McCann in
MONDAY May 7th – Russell O’Brien pings in Aljezur (may also be Areo /Odiaxere)
MAY 9TH 17TH Trips by T9 to Lagos
May 11 – Kate asked Neil Patterson to Pray at marina (Lagos)
MEMORY OF THE FUTURE
This week some of the witnesses are expected to appear in court behind
closed doors to record their evidence before they go back to the UK. The McCanns themselves are not expected to be asked to take part.
The procedure, known as "memory for the future", means taped statements can be shown during a future trial so the witnesses do not have to return to appear in court.
MAY 17th RACHAEL MATT RUSSELL JANE DIANNE RETURNED TO UK
David Payne and Fiona stayed until May 22nd and returned for a month on May 30th until July 2nd!!
On 17th everyone will have returned to the United Kingdom except the parents of Madeleine and the Payne couple
MAY 19 International Family Law Group arrives to set up fund
A British legal team has flown to Praia da Luz to help them and has launched a special "fighting fund" to help in the hunt for Madeleine.
A statement from the International Family Law Group, the firm instructed by the McCanns, said details of how people could make donations would be released within days.
A QC, Michael Nicholls, has also been instructed by the family as their determined battle to find Madeleine enters another week.
Madeleine's uncle John McCann, who lives in Glasgow but was in Praia da Luz last week, said the lawyers would play a liaison role and would not interfere with the criminal investigation.
A spokesman for the International Family Law Group said yesterday: "Gerry and Kate are very grateful for all the support and generous offers of help that they are receiving.
"Details of how contributions can be made to help get Madeleine back to the safety of her own family will be made available in the next couple of days."
May 20TH Gerry returns to UK
Mr McCann flies back to the UK for meetings about the Madeleine Fund and to put personal affairs in order
Kate (R) and Gerry (L) Mccann, the parents of a four-year-old Madeleine McCann, exit a church after a mass in Praia da Luz, Lagos, 20 May 2007, in the Portuguese southern province of Algarve.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PHONE_TEXTS.htm
In the records of this operator there are further curious situations that were not possible to explain. In some cases it is unknown which antenna was activated either by the calling mobile phone or by the called device. One example of that arises also in the above list: a record on 20 May at 20:19:45. It is known that Russel was not in our country on that occasion, the record should appear in listings of Kate, however that does not occur.
Always when this situation was found it was decided to eliminate those records
MAY 22nd DAVID AND FIONA RETURN
The reason for his return on this date are unknown, since there exist no records of investigation work assigned for that date, nor anything recorded in the case file documents which might clarify it. The confrontation in which his wife (Fiona Payne) was present was [only] carried out on 11 July.
During that weekend there were: 7 records on 29th; 5 on 30th; and 2 on 1 July, all on the antennae in the [parish] of Luz ("Luz (Lagos)").
From this date onwards there exist no other records in the data that was sent to us [by the phone operators].
May 30th - PRE-REDEVELOPMENT, THE ‘TOILET SEAT’ VILLA (House on Black Rock)
Wednesday May 30
• Kate and Gerry McCann attend an audience with the Pope at the Vatican as they travel around Europe to publicise their campaign to find Madeleine.
At the end of May 2007 the McCanns hired [size=32]Control Risks Group[/size]
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JUNE 1st - OFFICIAL WEBSITE LAUNCHED AS
www.bringmadeleinehome.com
June 22nd - (three weeks later demolished! (house on black rock)
MODERN VILLA AS PRESENT TODAY. ODD SQUARE SHAPE ONLY INTERESTING ELEMENT (NOT HISTORICALLY EXTANT)
Not finding anything, my mind went back to Kate’s words. She saw a body ‘on the hill’. So far this triangulation only had me looking at the base of Rocha Negra. What if this were expanded to include the summit itself?
I immediately sat up as I came across what I did next.
Sat atop Rocha Negra, beside the Boavista golf course, on May 30th, was an empty and seemingly derelict building. Next to it, on an adjacent lot, was a construction site. I clicked forward – the only other date the area was photographed in 2007 was, fortuitously, 3 weeks later – June 22nd. I was shocked to see that by June 22nd, this property had been demolished, and there was industrial machinery on site.
But, surely, this was coincidental? After all there is a construction site right next to it. I decided to look before and after 2007. The furthest back I could look was September 2004 – and the property stood just as empty then as it did in May 2007. And looking forward, two facts; the adjacent construction was for a separate build, and to call the area redeveloped was an understatement; here now stands the ‘Eagles Eye’, a six bedroom luxury house, let by none other than Ocean Country! This seemed too far outside the realm of coincidence.
MONDAY April 30 – Possible visit to Sagres
SATURDAY MAY 5th USE OF CAR
Patricia Cameron
We arrived in Portugal on Saturday morning, where a friend lent us a car to use ( NOTE:Who is this 'friend' and did they lend a car to McCanns during holiday or 'help' after Madeleine died? - Police asked witnesses if they saw McCann in
MONDAY May 7th – Russell O’Brien pings in Aljezur (may also be Areo /Odiaxere)
MAY 9TH 17TH Trips by T9 to Lagos
May 11 – Kate asked Neil Patterson to Pray at marina (Lagos)
MEMORY OF THE FUTURE
This week some of the witnesses are expected to appear in court behind
closed doors to record their evidence before they go back to the UK. The McCanns themselves are not expected to be asked to take part.
The procedure, known as "memory for the future", means taped statements can be shown during a future trial so the witnesses do not have to return to appear in court.
MAY 17th RACHAEL MATT RUSSELL JANE DIANNE RETURNED TO UK
David Payne and Fiona stayed until May 22nd and returned for a month on May 30th until July 2nd!!
On 17th everyone will have returned to the United Kingdom except the parents of Madeleine and the Payne couple
MAY 19 International Family Law Group arrives to set up fund
A British legal team has flown to Praia da Luz to help them and has launched a special "fighting fund" to help in the hunt for Madeleine.
A statement from the International Family Law Group, the firm instructed by the McCanns, said details of how people could make donations would be released within days.
A QC, Michael Nicholls, has also been instructed by the family as their determined battle to find Madeleine enters another week.
Madeleine's uncle John McCann, who lives in Glasgow but was in Praia da Luz last week, said the lawyers would play a liaison role and would not interfere with the criminal investigation.
A spokesman for the International Family Law Group said yesterday: "Gerry and Kate are very grateful for all the support and generous offers of help that they are receiving.
"Details of how contributions can be made to help get Madeleine back to the safety of her own family will be made available in the next couple of days."
May 20TH Gerry returns to UK
Mr McCann flies back to the UK for meetings about the Madeleine Fund and to put personal affairs in order
Kate (R) and Gerry (L) Mccann, the parents of a four-year-old Madeleine McCann, exit a church after a mass in Praia da Luz, Lagos, 20 May 2007, in the Portuguese southern province of Algarve.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PHONE_TEXTS.htm
In the records of this operator there are further curious situations that were not possible to explain. In some cases it is unknown which antenna was activated either by the calling mobile phone or by the called device. One example of that arises also in the above list: a record on 20 May at 20:19:45. It is known that Russel was not in our country on that occasion, the record should appear in listings of Kate, however that does not occur.
Always when this situation was found it was decided to eliminate those records
MAY 22nd DAVID AND FIONA RETURN
The reason for his return on this date are unknown, since there exist no records of investigation work assigned for that date, nor anything recorded in the case file documents which might clarify it. The confrontation in which his wife (Fiona Payne) was present was [only] carried out on 11 July.
During that weekend there were: 7 records on 29th; 5 on 30th; and 2 on 1 July, all on the antennae in the [parish] of Luz ("Luz (Lagos)").
From this date onwards there exist no other records in the data that was sent to us [by the phone operators].
May 30th - PRE-REDEVELOPMENT, THE ‘TOILET SEAT’ VILLA (House on Black Rock)
Wednesday May 30
• Kate and Gerry McCann attend an audience with the Pope at the Vatican as they travel around Europe to publicise their campaign to find Madeleine.
At the end of May 2007 the McCanns hired [size=32]Control Risks Group[/size]
[size=32]
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[/size]JUNE 1st - OFFICIAL WEBSITE LAUNCHED AS
www.bringmadeleinehome.com
June 22nd - (three weeks later demolished! (house on black rock)
MODERN VILLA AS PRESENT TODAY. ODD SQUARE SHAPE ONLY INTERESTING ELEMENT (NOT HISTORICALLY EXTANT)
Not finding anything, my mind went back to Kate’s words. She saw a body ‘on the hill’. So far this triangulation only had me looking at the base of Rocha Negra. What if this were expanded to include the summit itself?
I immediately sat up as I came across what I did next.
Sat atop Rocha Negra, beside the Boavista golf course, on May 30th, was an empty and seemingly derelict building. Next to it, on an adjacent lot, was a construction site. I clicked forward – the only other date the area was photographed in 2007 was, fortuitously, 3 weeks later – June 22nd. I was shocked to see that by June 22nd, this property had been demolished, and there was industrial machinery on site.
But, surely, this was coincidental? After all there is a construction site right next to it. I decided to look before and after 2007. The furthest back I could look was September 2004 – and the property stood just as empty then as it did in May 2007. And looking forward, two facts; the adjacent construction was for a separate build, and to call the area redeveloped was an understatement; here now stands the ‘Eagles Eye’, a six bedroom luxury house, let by none other than Ocean Country! This seemed too far outside the realm of coincidence.
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Re: Buried on the hill or is this the timeline of moving Maddie's body?
by Justice for Maddie 10.12.24 16:13
Do you think Maddie's body is in the area of the Eagle Eye Villa?
https://www.mansionglobal.com/amp/articles/a-retreat-for-the-avid-golfer-on-portugal-s-southern-coast-30502
https://www.mansionglobal.com/amp/articles/a-retreat-for-the-avid-golfer-on-portugal-s-southern-coast-30502
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Re: Buried on the hill or is this the timeline of moving Maddie's body?
by HiDeHo 10.12.24 16:23
I have included Ben's research on the house on Black Rock as a possibilityJustice for Maddie wrote:Do you think Maddie's body is in the area of the Eagle Eye Villa?
https://www.mansionglobal.com/amp/articles/a-retreat-for-the-avid-golfer-on-portugal-s-southern-coast-30502
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