Re: Danie Krugel

by **Bird131** 26.11.24 5:47

Living in South Africa, although I've never met with DK, we have been in contact over the years in connection with Madeleine's case and other local matters. Only a few weeks ago and from a very reliable source here in SA, a few 'disturbing' claims were made. Some relate directly to 'concerns' mentioned in previous posts on this topic. Since I don't have the time or interest in verifying these new claims, for now they remain just claims - which I usually would not repeat. However, since most on this platform have the same goal, it's only proper to share this, even although it does not present a definite conclusion to this discussion.

by moxie.blacksmith 26.11.24 10:04

Bird131 wrote:Living in South Africa, although I've never met with DK, we have been in contact over the years in connection with Madeleine's case and other local matters. Only a few weeks ago and from a very reliable source here in SA, a few 'disturbing' claims were made. Some relate directly to 'concerns' mentioned in previous posts on this topic. Since I don't have the time or interest in verifying these new claims, for now they remain just claims - which I usually would not repeat. However, since most on this platform have the same goal, it's only proper to share this, even although it does not present a definite conclusion to this discussion.

I hear you there is potentially a problem / problems, but I am actually not catching what it is, but I also hear you don´t want to repeat anything which you can´t properly put time and effort in to investigating thoroughly. I appreciate the reach out even if you are conflicted about the situation. How do you feel about some private contact? Wanna talk? Can you talk? Lets DM

by Flossy 01.12.24 8:37

I recently finished the DK chapter in Bernt’s book, and I find it conceptually difficult to understand how such a machine could function. While it’s certainly worth mentioning in the book, I feel this chapter is one of the weaker ones, as it lacks the depth and rigor evident in other sections. There’s a vague reference to potential evidence supporting its effectiveness, but this is neither elaborated upon nor substantiated. Given that such a machine would be testable under controlled scientific conditions, it’s important to remember that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Until such evidence is provided, this concept seems no more credible than dowsing rods.

by Jojo1 01.12.24 13:38

Flossy wrote:
I recently finished the DK chapter in Bernt’s book, and I find it conceptually difficult to understand how such a machine could function. While it’s certainly worth mentioning in the book, I feel this chapter is one of the weaker ones, as it lacks the depth and rigor evident in other sections. There’s a vague reference to potential evidence supporting its effectiveness, but this is neither elaborated upon nor substantiated. Given that such a machine would be testable under controlled scientific conditions, it’s important to remember that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Until such evidence is provided, this concept seems no more credible than dowsing rods.

He probably didn't go into any depth in the book because there is no depth to go into as DK gadget was just an unsubstantiated piece of kit, therefore BS had nothing to elaborate on in his book

by **Silentscope** 01.12.24 18:33

Again, the Police seem reluctant to dig anywhere where Traces are found in Areas detected by QDS Equiptment.

Source: https://www.iol.co.za/capeargus/news/joshlins-dna-trace-points-to-saldanha-bay-bloem-investigator-uses-tracking-device-in-search-3287072f-76c0-4d20-9a49-02790db7f

by **Bluebagthepirate** 01.12.24 19:20

Because QDS is BS.

by **Silentscope** 01.12.24 19:42

Even if the QDS Technoogy is BS, his actual success Rate at finding People seems to be above the Averages of Chance.

Whether he uses Local knowledge, Informants, or some other old World Police knowledge, he has a better than Average success Rate at finding people.

If he is going to return to PDL, we can only hope that he has some success, because we can expect nothing from Team McCann.

by **Bluebagthepirate** 01.12.24 20:33

Silentscope wrote:Even if the QDS Technoogy is BS, his actual success Rate at finding People seems to be above the Averages of Chance.

So he says.

by deepeepee 01.12.24 20:37

Silentscope wrote:Even if the QDS Technoogy is BS, his actual success Rate at finding People seems to be above the Averages of Chance.

Whether he uses Local knowledge, Informants, or some other old World Police knowledge, he has a better than Average success Rate at finding people.

If he is going to return to PDL, we can only hope that he has some success, because we can expect nothing from Team McCann.

Sorry Silentscope, logically, if his technology is bullshit (which it must be as it is simply ludicrous) surely the only success that will come from him more distraction.

Don't look at the evidence, look over here at my amazing clever machine.

Wasting lots of attention and time.

Le me guess - who would want him to distract everybody from the main suspects...?

He won't get involved again without being paid and he would probably unsurprisingly be paid from 'The Fund' and as the saying goes, "He who pays the piper calls the tune" and the tune would definitely be "Help us find Madeleine" 'cos we don't know and we miss her etc.

Just more of the usual narrative building and narrative persuasion, a speciality of the Clarence Mitchell types.

So for me, anything to do with Krugel is very negative and no good can come out of it.

by **Silentscope** 01.12.24 22:00

Danie never took any Money for his Services from the McCanns.
I doubt if he would Charge them now?

If Bird131 says Danie will be returning to PDL sometime soon, then I will remain hopeful that the MOS works in Favour of Madeleine.

She needs to go Home.

by **crusader** 01.12.24 22:09

Why would Danie travel to Praia da Luz at his own expense to make himself look foolish.
What's in it for him?

by **Silentscope** 01.12.24 22:12

Cru, you always ask the RIGHT Questions! high5

by **AnneCGuedes** 02.12.24 1:41

crusader wrote:Why would Danie travel to Praia da Luz at his own expense to make himself look foolish.
What's in it for him?

He was asked to travel to PdL by respected doctors, backed by the MSM, the UK authorities, the political class, etc. and even the expert nb1 in missing persons accepted to study his report. When he received a hair of M, the most famous 3 years old on the planet, wasn't that the start of fame, if not glory?

by **crusader** 02.12.24 7:18

The McCann's gave him a hairbrush used by Madeleine, I remember a video where he handed it back to a reporter during an interview.
It was Martin Brunt.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8sa9lo

by **Bluebagthepirate** 02.12.24 7:27

crusader wrote:Why would Danie travel to Praia da Luz at his own expense to make himself look foolish.
What's in it for him?

Same as any snake oil salesman.

Have you seen his videos?

by **crusader** 02.12.24 7:38

I have, I think it's all smoke and mirrors.
But it's up to him, he will either blag it out or look like a complete nutter.
He's doing it at considerable expense to himself and there are people who believe his contraption is real, so let him get on with it.

by **Jill Havern** 02.12.24 8:23

Maybe Bernt will be paying him.

by **CaKeLoveR** 02.12.24 8:26

Or set his men with dogs on him?

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