Secondary drowning

Arnold wrote:If Tony Bennett replies than there will be a next time.

Arnold wrote:Hemoglobin described on May 13 2022 accidental death, which secondary drowning also is called. 

This possibility is overlooked by everybody.

 Calling this possibility a baseless theory in this simple case shows how corrupt the human mind is.




Your reply to Hemoglobin, also a new member, was quite different.

As a forum manager and gatekeeper it looks like you have a hidden agenda. 


https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t17071p25-government-officials-well-in-excess-of-the-norm-were-immediately-despatched-to-praia-da-luz-on-hearing-of-madeleines-disappearance#455505

Well, enjoy your role in this global hoax.



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Milo wrote:Help

I can't find my million-word response on this topic

Arnold wrote:A crucial question needs an straight answer otherwise this never investigated scenario can be removed.

Was there a sailing incident at sea between 10.30am - 11.00am where Madeleine launched herself into Atlantic ocean to save the straw
hat of Jessica Berry or not ?

• Madeleine died of secondary drowning after a sailing incident at sea on Thursday, the day she disappeared. It was Jessica, the daughter of Neil Berry who was present when it happened, who told her dad. In 2019 this incident was mentioned in an interview about the last hours of Madeleine McCann. One can find it on the internet. It shows also a photo of Madeleine. The straw hat of Jessica was blown by the wind when the kids were on the catamaran and Madeleine launched herself in the water to get the straw hat. At that incident she swallowed water, she was rescued by a staff member one thing which makes this condition ( secondary drowning) so difficult to detect its slow acting nature.
  A victim may breath in a very small amount of fluid and believe she has succesfully expelled it though coffing.
  In reality the water may fill up some oxygen rich pores of the lungs reducing the lungs ability to oxygenate the blood passes through. The heart does not slow down appreciably during this proces. so the victim can still talk and walk.
  The only symptoms may be sudden change of personality or level of awareness as the blood oxygen level drops over time. vomiting or unvoluntary defecation immediately following a swimming ( or bath) session should be considered as a red flag. The symptons are coughing, chestpain, trouble breathing, feeling extremely tired ( as Madeleine was according to Kate McCann in several interviews and in her book) and lack of sleep.
  Secondary drowning can also come from something as simple as getting water in your mouth or getting dunked.
  If the symptoms don’t go away or if they get worse the urgent advice is to bring the child to an emergency room, not to your pediatrician’s office. chest XRay and IV and be admitted for observation. breathproblems needed a breathing tube for a while. He or she should be observed for several hours for signs of labored breathing and altered mental status.
  Death may occur between one or 48 hours! Cause of heartfallure.
  
  Gerry McCann and his wife are doctors who probably thought they could handle the unexpected situation in which they were confronted with very serious medical problems. Maybe they tried to resuscitate Madeleine but failed to save her life.
  The nanny of the children was moved by the mark Warner firm to Greece ten days after the disappearance.
  The sail instructor nor the safety boat employee and other waterfront employees, all from the UK, contracted by the firm were never formally interviewed by the Portugese police nor the MET except the nanny, but in the PJ files this sailing incident was never mentioned.
  Maybe it is time for the four members of Operation Grange to investigate the possibility of a secondary drowning as a cause of death. Till now all their efforts to solve this case are dead end streets.
  March 26, 2020
  
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Matt Oldfield wrote:And so we went back down to the beach and took one of the cats out and we were out a bit longer than expected because part of the boat's strapping fell off and I fell off the back and so we got sort of stranded in the water and he didn't really know how to sail but managed to bring the boat round and I was sort of like a mile from shore thinking I'm going to have to swim all the way back or he's going to run me down with the boat, but he actually did really well and actually managed to pick me up on the back of the boat. Erm,

Jane Tanner wrote:Matt and Russ went down to the beach and I think they took a boat out, erm, Matt fell off the boat and nearly lost Matt off the side of the boat and we thought that would be the drama of the day

Russell O'Brien wrote:Well we, me and Matt had gone down to the beach to go on, as I say, Matt’s a good, quite a good sailor and we took one of the, the, erm, the catamarans out.  So we’d gone down, erm, just after lunch, probably after the kids had gone back to the Kids Club, so two, two o’clock, two or three o’clock, and had quite a long sail, erm, we were out for a long time, Matt sailed for a bit and then I sailed for a bit and he kind of gave me a bit of a lesson really.  Erm, as I said, he, he got bounced overboard and the kind of wire snapped and I had to learn quite quickly how to turn a catamaran round and not run someone over in the water with it.  So we pick, you know, we picked him back up, erm, a boat came back out and repaired, you know, kind of repaired the, the bit that had snapped, erm, it was the harness.

Rachell Oldfield wrote:Matt and Russell came in from their sail and Matt had fallen overboard and Russell had managed to go back and rescue him so, cos it was, it was quite windy and I think they were quite big waves and Matt couldn't see the boat and it was like, well this will be the story of the holiday, you know, the story to tell the grandchildren which is, you know which is what we said at the table at dinner that night, erm, erm,

Arnold wrote:Maybe it is time for the four members of Operation Grange to investigate the possibility of a secondary drowning as a cause of death.

Arnold wrote:This second sailing incident was a distraction imo.

They all know what happened. 
 
She died in 5A and her parents were not responsible for her death.

 That’s why the lying cowards sealed their lips.