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Post by Verdi 29.03.22 16:51

I think Dr Mark Perlin should be carefully scrutinized before raising questions about refusal to accept his offer of free services in the Madeleine McCann case, for starters it could be said that police forces are sceptical about his methodology.

Granted his credentials look good on paper and clearly he has extensive qualifications and experience in a number of disciplines but it's not Dr Perlin's personal attributes that particularly concern me, it's more his cybergenetic company that needs to be questioned .... and answered.

Would you like to be judged by computer technology? It could be argued that a computer is not corruptible as opposed to humankind but we all know that to be a falsehood, I venture to suggest it easier to corrupt a computer than a human being, after all, who is behind the computer if not a human being. The most worrying thing here, correct me if I'm wrong, Dr Perlin is very covetous about his trade mark and he operates a company for profit. If engaging a company to undertake a service - science, in this instance a service that claims to assist criminal investigations using cyber forensics, surely you would wish to know detail of the mechanics before accepting paper evidence !?!

I think I've said before, it's akin to the South African industrial all weather all terrain sludge gulper that claims to locate body remains by cutting edge technology. Progress is of course great, for the most part, but proof and/or evidence of reliability is a must before accepting word of mouth.

If I remember rightly, this issue was launched into cyberspace by the Australian journalist Mark Saunokonoko some long time ago. It was swiftly accepted and widely circulated across social media, a particular group favoured by Mr Saunokonoko I have to say, with little or no research into the whys and wherefores. In short, as with so many topics concerning Madeleine McCann's disappearance, people just go along with anything they're told without question.

I question the authenticity/reliability of Dr Perlin's trade mark as I don't doubt any competent police force would also question.

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Post by Verdi 30.03.22 3:08

Look long and hard at this good people, rip it apart word by word for what it's worth.  Fifteen years down the line and this drivel is allowed to broadcast as though it's a given right - the last vestige of hope for a secure future free from the fear of prosecution.



Following weeks months and years of circumlocution, this is to be the grande finale?  A German man of no significance to lead the case into oblivion - never to be resurrected, never to be questioned by anyone or anything?

As I've said before, the Metropolitan Police in the guise of Operation Grange, are not important as regards the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.  The Portuguese police are the primary investigators, always have been always will be, Operations Grange and various other British police forces were/are only there to assist the Portuguese investigation - when requested !!!.

Operation Grange have no authority to conclude the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, only the Portuguese law enforcement agencies can do that. The German authorities have no authority to investigate the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, they can investigate their own countryman for suspected crimes but in this case they can only 'assist' the Portuguese investigation.

As with the COVID-19 pandemic and now the Russian/Ukrainian conflict, Britain seems to think itself leader in world affairs -but of course it's not!  In truth it is but a media based trumpet fanfare of self importance.

This video is wrong on every account.  

Gerry and Kate McCann are the prime suspects in the disappearance of their daughter Madeleine.  The Portuguese investigation culminated with interviewing both in September 2007 where they were named arguidos.  Roughly translated - suspects or persons of interest, that status has never changed, the McCanns fled the country, Portugal, within hours of said interviews.  They never seized and opportunity to clear their names, instead they opted  run away.

Seriously, who would do that.  Who would run away leaving but a memory of a lost child, your own child, just to save your bacon.

I don't think anymore need be said - the guilt hangs over them like a dank cloud in the middle of December.  That cloud will never dissipate, maybe that will be their fate - their magnum opus, their destiny.  They might reach higher heights, the professor might elevate to the House of Lords whilst the other one a contemporary Joan of Arc - let's not hope Lady Godiva.

Have to say, I will be sorely disappointed if the entire prolonged saga will end in a German prison cell.

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at verdi, te german use their own law, they are not in assistance to portugal in this case, they do not surrender a german national to any other jurisdiction, but have by their law the opportunity to get a german national before their own courts of law, even if the crime is happened outside of germany. and they only need assistance from portugal in this case, for information and evidence, but all of that will have to be usable under the german laws. 

it also means that in germany there is in this case no statute of limitations, possibly they have some if they had to go for lesser charges than a crime against life and freedom of a minor. 

the uk never had such an article of law in use in the last two decades. so they never had legal grounds to start a true own investigation. they never have been more than assisting portugal.

the big fat problem in the first part of the portuguese investigation was the british police that stepped in, there was only consent for a family liaison between family and the police in an assistant role. 

the problem is the uk send a complete police force out, but when you are a police officer your function only is valid within the borders of the country you serve. it means if you have no consent to work in a function outside your own territory your credentials loose all value, so even if you are the highest ranked officer at home,  in another country you are only somebody of the public. 

normally the country that has a case that needs assistance, the rule is, that country has to ask for assistance and that country is free to choose from what is offered after they asked.
operation task was already on the ground around and in praia da luz, had already contact with a potential suspect before anything was arranged.

the problem with that was a legal one, all they had done, that later was needed as part of this case could be made void, because the consent was not there. and portugal has pretty strict rulings about working on a active criminal case, only the active police could do that. it is even a crime in itself. 

it must have been repaired at a later time, usually that's some work for the foreign and justice department of both governments. 

but at the time it started of, it was interfering into the territory of another state. and it was against the law of that country.

and the people who they send out of the uk are still not believing that they were not welcome, so there is graham hill, who was send in from ceop, he can not get around how polite, but not serious he was taken, the man still is not gotten over it. but what will he do, if tomorrow morning, a dutch officer walks into his offices and start telling what he has to do. would he welcome that officer as just what he needed, give that officer that has no recommendation letter from his government and mr. hill has no formal consent, insight into his active work. 

or would that dutch officer not even get further than the front desk, were he is told in nice office language to f..k of. 

well it could have been even so , that the uk not told their people they were not there under the usual consent of the country they would arrive in. 
the portuguese are so awful polite to not simply give them an escort to the nearest airport and kick them out, for interfering with their laws of justice. 

read the first chapters of the first book from amaral, and you can see what the portuguese had to deal with, and the other side is to find in the police manual for operation task. 

and the why the uk police force was out there became very clear when all left as soon as the mccanns traveled out of portugal. job done. 
but we and they know that the only remit was to get the mccanns safely back on home ground. 

it means the first stepping in from the uk, was never an assisting in solving this case. the why behind it is still under covers, and i think it will be staying there for a very long time. there is the secret of national security in, or that is simply used to get it under covers for 75 years. 

it is a very embarrassing episode in the history of the uk. because they gone many steps to far, miles over the borders of diplomacy. interfering within another states inland affairs is even an recognized act of war.  
i think this is the reason to still keep all open, i never heard about questions asked by some member of the parlement of the uk about that act. it is never been commented on in any paper as far i can find. so the old golden rule must still be in place, do not mention it. 

the solution was just legalize all uk boots on the ground after they were already stamping around in this case. 

even the germans had to ask for an invitation to get a look for any information in the case. and from the reactions of the german prosecution office they learned a lot in portugal. 

i must say, that even polite portuguese people were able, in a polite way to tell ceops graham hill to get lost. the man is still get wet eyes as he looks back. he still can not use his brains, to simply see he was a unwelcome guest, without any legal status, there was not even a role for online infringements in this case, and ceop had absolutely no reason to be on the ground, or have need for access to criminal information, they could have been working hard in assisting that angle just from their own offices in the uk. 

but it is still going on, that the people who were illegal in their occupation in those first weeks of that investigation that are telling their impression about bungling police officers. the reality is, they just were keeping those illegal subjects busy and out of interfering with a criminal case, so there was no ground to later in court declare findings illegally gathered. 

there is a very different form of reaction from people like mark harrison, because he was there on invitation. grime also. 

what the uk does not want all to know is, that a lot of work is done under advisory and assistance of uk police officers, the murat angle was fully based on a profilers work, a profiler from ceop. the phone data were handed to the uk boots in a separate office. all samples taken in all of the later forensic searches are taken on instructions from the uk. 

i still do not see a reason to call the work done by the portuguese police as bungling, i see a lot of bungling on the uk side, the uk do see it also, that is why there is a police manual made about operation task. it looks like there was never an instruction to keep boundaries, to respect the country of portugal and the laws and serving officers of that law given. 

the jane tanner, publized as the spannish police in the form of some british officers to get at robert murat is a nice example of that. this episode was not authorized by the portuguese.

the uk had taken the nickname 'little britain' a bit to light hearted, forgetting it was still portuguese soil, and that this meant portugal had the upper hand in this case and how it must be worked. 

even the second round of investigation on portuguese soils was a farce, operation grange looking for clues, or old lost socks. it looks like they got the consent to be there that time in order, it did not looked very much as a joint investigation, so portugal already did know there was nothing to find there. otherwise we would have seen portuguese police officers keeping a tail on the grangers, because otherwise it would have been hard to use findings as evidence before a portuguese court. 

but it is so typical unbrittish to see still so many people with an official function still mocking about in every news item they could get a mingling in, about something that you expect they must understand. they were just nono's without consent out there. 

a nono is a dutch noon for idiot, stupid or dummy, someone who thinks you need him, and you know you do not. 

and indeed the video has no true word in it, what you see is the picture that is to form from later news articles. and a nice head that just read what others brewed together as news. but it is still a bit early for an april fool.

and i do see a big misunderstanding, the case of a missing person is never really closed, but you will loose any way to bring a perp before a court. we had til 2006 also a statute of limitations for serious crime with a life sentence, for murder, usually seen as the most serious crime, it was 18 years, all cases after 1988 no longer had a statute of limitations. so we have the rule if cases are reach their sol before 2006, they kept it, but others who did not are worked under the newer laws. und eu regulations each country still keeps their own responsibility for justice, but there are some agreements to try to get them a bit harmonized. 

portugal did also change parts of their rules about statute of limitations, but i never found a good translation of that part of law, older law has a good official translation, but always the original is the one that counts. but they did not follow up with the later corrections. 

missing persons cases that are not solved in the time you could bring someone for a court for a criminal fact, because of a sol, or lack of evidence, such cases are often still looked at, because it is seen as a duty to the people who are left behind by the victim. the case will change from finding a culprit, into finding answers and if possible a body to lay to rest. for cases were a sol no longer is a restriction, finding the person can open up the again into a criminal case.

missing in itself is no criminal offence, so that in itself would not reach a sol, but because of the lack of that it is worked under the other police task , that of assistance to who needs dat, helping out. 
it has often a lot of difficulties by that, you cannot use te competencies you have in a criminal case. 
more and more countries have cold case units for these kind of cases, for others it is just at hand when there is a moment of time to spend. 

so again the media take you for a ride, because the case of the missing person would never be closed, but the possible criminal aspects in it will, or could be, depending on the legal possibilities.  
every gone year is not easy to any evidence out there, but it can open up mouths of people who had today other priorities and are in a different environment and now able to speak. 

the big fat problem with this case are simply the boundaries you can talk about it in the media, there is no true discussion or debating possible, their is an very unproven stance in the uk, that is set in stone.

think hard millions of pounds and the uk police was not even given the opportunity to proof the parents are indeed innocent. telling they are is not enough. all they did have proven is there is no other culprit in sight. no evidence of an outsider. so the portuguese were right in no outsider job. 

i think the british government with their top spec brass police investigation own the portuguese people a very big excuse.
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Post by Verdi 30.03.22 14:27

Extradition in criminal law

In a globalised world, crime and its prosecution do not stop at national borders. It would therefore be wrong to believe that an offence committed abroad has no consequences.

Extradition and surrender of accused persons in the context of international execution of sentences are part of the daily routine of a criminal defence lawyer.

1. Intergovernmental Relations in Criminal Law

Under certain conditions, the Federal Republic of Germany may extradite or transfer foreign citizens to other countries.

Extradition is the term used to refer to international relations in criminal law between the Federal Republic of Germany and other states which do not belong to the European Union.

Relations between Germany and other EU states regarding the transmission of criminals are referred to as rendition.

“Extradition” means that a third State (requesting State) requests another State (requested State) to surrender a person residing in the requested State on grounds of criminal prosecution or execution of sentence. Extradition to a non-EU country is inadmissible for own nationals. This is regulated in the German Constitution, cf. Article 16.2 sentence 1 of the German Constitution. The German state will then take over the prosecution itself.

In the European Union, the so-called “surrender” of a person has been carried out since 2004 on the basis of a European arrest warrant. Moreover, requests for mutual assistance in the EU are less bureaucratic and therefore much more effective.

The (mere) search for criminals abroad must be distinguished from extradition traffic. It is not part of the extradition procedure.

Extradition must also be distinguished from deportation/depatriation. Deportation is a national measure of aliens law and security that forces the expellee to leave the state. If the expellee refuses to comply, the expulsion is enforced by way of deportation.

2. Extradition Procedure

Extradition proceedings begin with the receipt of a written request for extradition from the requesting State to the requested State (so-called extradition request). The requesting State must conclusively claim that the person concerned has committed an extraditable offence. Evidence is not required at this early stage of the procedure.

The Federal Ministry of Justice and Consumer Protection are responsible for the processing. In practice, however, most of the powers have been transferred to the Land governments and subordinate authorities.

The further process step has two stages. A judicial admissibility procedure is followed by an official approval procedure.

At the first stage, in the judicial admissibility procedure, the Higher Regional Court decides on the admissibility of extradition (§§ 31, 32 IRG – Law on International Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters). The decision is binding and not subject to appeal.

In the subsequent licensing procedure, the second one examines the content of extradition at the ministry level. If extradition is refused, the request shall lapse. However, this shall not prevent the requesting State from making a new request.

If extradition is granted, the decision of the granting authority can be reviewed by the Higher Regional Court under certain conditions.

In order to prevent the persecuted person from evading extradition during the current proceedings, extradition custody can be ordered.

Once extradition has been authorised, the person pursued shall be handed over to the authorities of the requesting State. If necessary, imprisonment may be ordered in accordance with § 34 IRG to ensure that the transfer is carried out.

3. Conditions of Extradition

In principle, legal assistance is provided only to states which provide legal assistance themselves (so-called principle of reciprocity, cf. § 5 IRG). The principle of reciprocity states that the act complained of by the requesting State must also constitute an offence punishable in the requested State, § 2 IRG. In addition, according to the principle of double criminality, such conduct must also be a criminal offence under German law.

The requesting State must also observe the principle of speciality (§ 11 IRG). Acts other than those for which extradition was ordered may not be prosecuted without the consent of the requested State.

Obstacles to extradition may result from violations of the fundamental principles of German law in the requesting state. Extradition is prohibited, for example, if the persecuted person is threatened with torture or inhuman treatment in the requesting state.

Other obstacles are

Threatening political persecution or persecution otherwise contrary to the rule of law, Section 6 (2) IRG
Military Crimes, § 7 IRG
Impending death penalty in the requesting state, § 8 IRG
Threat of double punishment, § 9 No. 1 IRG
Limitation of the offence, § 9 No. 2 IRG

4. Criminal Defence Lawyer

The persecuted person can and should choose a lawyer in any situation of the proceedings (§ 40 Paragraph 1 IRG). In addition, legal counsel may be assisted if the difficulty of the factual and legal situation requires cooperation (Section 40 (2) No. 1 IRG), if the person persecuted cannot adequately exercise his rights himself (Section 40 (2) No. 2 IRG) or if the person persecuted is a minor (Section 40 (2) No. 3 IRG).

5. Surrender within the European Union

In the European Union, the so-called “surrender” of a person has been carried out since 2004 on the basis of a European arrest warrant. This created a special law that also allows the extradition of German citizens. Germany can therefore extradite Germans to other EU states at their request and does so regularly. In addition, the requirement of double criminality does not apply to certain offences.

A European arrest warrant is a judicial decision made in one Member State (issuing State) for the arrest and surrender by another Member State (executing State) of a wanted person for the purpose of prosecution or execution of a custodial sentence or detention order. The European arrest warrant is based on a previously issued national arrest.

6. Surrender Procedure


The procedure differs from extradition. The surrender procedure under the European arrest warrant is single-stage, whereas the classical extradition procedure is two-stage, since there is a ministerial authorisation level. The European arrest warrant procedure also opens up direct contacts between the judicial authorities involved. Transfers within the EU are thus faster and more routine than deliveries to third countries.

Nevertheless, in many cases it is worth fighting.

https://criminal-law-germany.lawyer/extradition-in-criminal-law/

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Post by onehand 30.03.22 16:52

yes, the word in this is foreign citizens, not german nationals.  but they even not have to, being living in germany and not german nationality could be enough. to keep then in their own hands.


they do not surrender any german. 


most countries have little problems in surrender foreign people, some have problems in doing it, if there is still a death sentence for the crime they want them for. 


it is found in this official made translation of the part of the german law that was used to bring cb before their own courts. most shall be based on article 5.


https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_stgb/englisch_stgb.html



the next link goes to an official translation of the full extradition law of germany, and for a german national the law start under division 2 section 80 and beyond.


https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_irg/englisch_irg.html



but the germans simply do not surrender their own, not for serious crimes, there are some options in place on paper and like in the case of martin ney, that had a investigation against him in france the germans just lent ney to the french. the french had to give him back. and they did.
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Post by Silentscope 30.03.22 17:57

There is apparently nothing standing in the way of anyone writing to Brückner privately.

Or applying to Interview him in Person as part of a privately funded investigation.

But no one is asking…

That alone speaks for itself.
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Interview with ex Met police officer John Coxon talking about the closure of Grange starts at 33 mins.

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Silentscope wrote:There is apparently nothing standing in the way of anyone writing to Brückner privately.

Or applying to Interview him in Person as part of a privately funded investigation.

But no one is asking…
That alone speaks for itself.
Even Jon Clarke-Kent, intrepid reporter and super-sleuth could have done so.

But he didn't.

JC:   Did you do 'IT' ?
CB:  No.
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well at least i understand why christian the p. one, was not that eager to get in contact with the police, because of fear to be taken in on the madeleine mccann case, he is an it expert!

so yes, if i was an expert in it, and i'm certainly not that, i would maybe be shy if you got questioned about doing it. 

also i find 3 evenly stacked rows, existing of a total between 60 and 100 passports quite a performance, the old ones had for us at least a bit of a rough coating, the new ones in eu standards have a far more smooth surface, i tried some stacking, but i have only 4 modern ones and 7 expired ones at hand, and they would not stack at all. the more modern ones keep coming down. 

so even the first outing in the press by the german der spiegel, were only 30 to 50 passports were in stacks on the mantelpiece, does sounds a bit overly estimated. but who knows looking in a mirror will double everything of course. 

someone translated earlier the spiegel piece from german to english;

nice to keep that together, the original is a article from hubert gude, and the one who looks like to own the premiere of christian post in the press, not a certain olive dripper in spain, or a old chap of that one called martin what was it fricker or pricker, or picker. so there was no need to travel to the dark side of cambodia, the it expert had simply skype. 

A German musician and IT-technician, who got to know him in 2005 after a gig in a music bar in Lagos, learned that B. also has an uncanny side. The SPIEGEL reached Christian P., 53, via Skype in the small town of Kampot in Cambodia.

"I met Christian from time to time, he fixed my car, I helped him with the TV," he says. Sometimes they would drink wine. "He was quite a messie. The house in Praia da Luz was totally untidy and unkempt."

During a visit, he noticed three stacks of foreign travel documents. "There were 30 to 50 passports lying around in plain sight." When asked about this, Christian B. told about thefts in Praia da Luz and the surrounding area. "He told us that he went on tour from time to time, and climbed up facades in the process.


This is consistent with the findings of the investigators. According to this, Christian B. financed his life in Portugal in the mid-2000s not with odd jobs, but with burglaries and thefts. In April 2006, he and an Austrian accomplice were caught red-handed at a gas station when they were siphoning diesel from a truck. A Portuguese court sentenced them to 258 days in prison.

"I visited him in prison at the time," Christian P. recalls. "He complained about the poor prison conditions and the lousy food. Because there was no alcohol in the prison, I was supposed to bring him oranges sprinkled with vodka, but I didn't want that. That made B. angry.

During his imprisonment, B. received notice of termination for the house he had rented in Praia da Luz. Christian P. wanted to help his friend and place a few boxes for him. "But there were such disgusting CDs with dirty movies like animal porn, more than a hundred CDs," says Christian P. He threw all the stuff away. Christian B. didn't want to see him again afterwards, "he was so angry".


so if you translated der spiegel you will get...... the mirror of course, but it is not exactly the same mirror of course, and is does not look like hubert gude uses a alias abroad. but the british mirror could have saved up on travel costs in this case, as it was not even a bit fresh news out there. 


and yes i copied it from another forum out there, but as that forum has a bit of outraged rulings about copyright, i would not name the source. i remember reading the original before, but can not get my hands on it again at the moment. 


the daily mail has it also, and had the comments even open....
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10678161/Madeleine-McCann-case-Ex-friend-prime-suspect-Christian-Brueckner-certain-took-her.html?fbclid=IwAR133DiHm-D-fyz7t0Q0sQyosr_u_vny4-R6jklF8988sSN2k7Shic5HjWo
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Madeleine McCann disappeared in 2007 (Image: METROPOLITAN POLICE/AFP via Gett)





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Portuguese authorities say they will continue to investigate Madeleine McCann’s disappearance despite Scotland Yard ending its 11-year probe.
The country’s Attorney General’s Office allayed fears the Met Police decision would impact on the separate inquiry being led by prosecutors on the Algarve, insisting today: “It continues.”

And Portuguese police sources said closing their long-running ‘cold case’ review was “completely out of the question.”
It was reported last month the Met’s Operation Grange inquiry - launched four years after Madeleine vanished from her family apartment in Praia da Luz on May 3, 2007 - would be wound down around autumn after funding stopped.



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Christian Brueckner is the prime suspect in the disappearance of Maddie McCann ( Carabinieri Milano via Getty Images)

The move has been linked to the feeling among police chiefs German authorities have insufficient evidence to bring a case against prime Maddie suspect Christian Brueckner.
Sources close to the inquiry in Portugal admitted they would not be surprised by the closure of the UK Madeleine probe once current funding ended and confirmed it had been a “long time” since the last official British request for information.


One said: “Only the German authorities have been sending formal requests for judicial assistance of late.”
A spokesman for Portugal’s Attorney General’s Office, asked about the future of the probe led by a prosecutor based in the Algarve resort of Portimao, said: “The investigation is proceeding, with the inquiry not having a final conclusion yet.”
Fears the opportunity to get justice for Maddie and her parents could be dealt a hammer blow in a little over three weeks’ time despite the continuing Portuguese probe have been raised.

The family’s lawyer Rogerio Alves warned in July 2020 his country’s 15-year limit on prosecutions meant there was less than two years left to take action against chief suspect Christian Brueckner.




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And Portuguese legal experts admitted at the weekend the chances of putting anyone behind bars over Madeleine’s disappearance would be “greatly reduced” after the day Kate and Gerry McCann remember their eldest daughter exactly a decade and a half on from the holiday mystery.
It is believed Brueckner, currently behind bars in Germany for the rape of a 72-year-old tourist, would have to be made an ‘arguido’ in Portugal before May 3 to facilitate his eventual prosecution on the Algarve.
Sources close to the case said last night they viewed it as “highly unlikely.”
One well-placed insider said Portuguese police and prosecutors were working on the theory Madeleine’s abductor could still be tried there because she may still be the victim of an ongoing kidnapping.

The insider said: “In the event Madeleine is still alive, we could be looking at a crime where the idea of a 15-year time limit on prosecution can go out of the window because the clock starts ticking the moment the crime stops.”

However, if the Portuguese authorities eventually decide not to pursue Brueckner, he could still be prosecuted over Maddie by the German authorities in their country where he is currently being held despite an alleged crime being committed in Portugal." />
END OF THE ROAD Madeleine McCann inquiry to END after 11 years as fears grow prime suspect WON’T be charged - Page 4 >Late last year it was reported he would be charged in Germany with three separate sex crimes this year including the rape of an Irish woman in 2004 on the Algarve
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Post by PeterMac 13.04.22 8:38

I think there is a fundamental misunderstanding about the 15 year "Limitation" which would imply that if a body were found which had been concealed for 16 years, the PJ would make no enquiries.

I am seeking to clarify the situation with people who actually understand Portuguese law, and will report back.
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Post by Verdi 13.04.22 14:39

If a statute of limitation refers to the investigation of a suspect/s alone and not the crime per se, which appears to be the case across the civilised world (excuse the generalisation), then the name Christian Brueckner would be a misnomer anyway.

He only made his public debut two years ago.

The true suspects however, are unlikely to ever be prosecuted, with or without a statute of limitation - even for operating a fraudulent 'fund', squandering public donations with the upmost transparency.

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Portuguese police will continue their inquiry into Madeleine McCann’s disappearance despite Scotland Yard 'winding up' their probe later this year

Portuguese police will continue inquiry into Madeleine McCann’s disappearance
Comes as Scotland Yard are set to 'set to wind up' their probe later this year
Cops 'frustrated' at lack of movement in case against Christian Brueckner
Operation Grange, overseen by Met Police, is estimated to have cost £13 million

By Kaya Terry For Mailonline

Published: 02:39, 13 April 2022 | Updated: 02:41, 13 April 2022

Portuguese police have said they will continue their inquiry into Madeleine McCann’s disappearance despite Scotland Yard 'winding up' their probe later this year.

The Portuguese Attorney General’s Office has insisted authorities will keep their investigation going to find the missing youngster and said their separate inquest - which is being led by prosecutors on the Algarve - will 'continue'.

Authorities also added that closing their long-running probe was 'completely out of the question', reports The Mirror.

Last month it was reported that the Metropolitan Police will be ending their inquiry into Madeleine's whereabouts.

Funding for the Operation Grange inquiry – launched four years after Portuguese authorities began their unsuccessful search for the youngster in 2007 – will end this autumn unless new lines of inquiry emerge.

British detectives are said to be frustrated by the failure to compile sufficient evidence to prosecute Christian Brueckner, a convicted paedophile, who was named two years ago by German police as the prime suspect for Madeleine's abduction.

He has denied any involvement in the disappearance of the youngster from an apartment in Praia da Luz on the Algarve.

Operation Grange, overseen by the Metropolitan Police, is estimated to have cost £13 million

The Portuguese Attorney General’s Office has insisted authorities will keep their investigation going to find the missing youngster and said their separate inquest - which is being led by prosecutors on the Algarve - will 'continue' Police also added that closing their long-running probe is 'completely out of the question', reports The Mirror

The Operation Grange team has in recent years been pared down from 40 officers to just four detectives working under Detective Chief Inspector Mark Cranwell. His team also liaises with Madeleine's parents, of Rothley, Leicsestershire

The Sun reported that it was understood Madeleine's parents, Gerry and Kate, both 54, are aware of the impending closure but have vowed to continue their search.

Brueckner is serving a seven-year jail sentence in Germany for raping a 72-year-old woman.

The Operation Grange team has in recent years been pared down from 40 officers to just four detectives working under Detective Chief Inspector Mark Cranwell.

His team also liaises with Madeleine's parents, of Rothley, Leicsestershire.

In June 2020, police in Britain and Germany launched a renewed appeal for witnesses after disclosing they had a new suspect, who was later revealed to be Brueckner.

German prosecutors remain convinced he was responsible for the youngster's disappearance but despite an intensive investigation have not brought any charges.

Detectives are said to be frustrated by the failure to compile sufficient evidence to prosecute Christian Brueckner (pictured), a convicted paedophile, who was named two years ago by German police as the prime suspect for Madeleine's abduction



Brueckner also is alleged to have admitted abducting Madeleine to a friend - and the German team of investigators, led by public prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters, said they were certain he had killed the three-year-old.

It is now highly unlikely that he will be charged over her disappearance.

Wolters went as far as holding a press conference where he addressed Madeleine's parents Kate and Gerry over the air.

He insisted: 'We are confident we have the man who took and killed your daughter. All I can do is ask for your patience.'

But claims German detectives had sent multiple notes to Madeleine's family were rubbished within days.

And the Met itself released a pointed statement correcting the allegations about the correspondence.

It said last year: 'The Met received one letter from the BKA [Federal Criminal Police Office of Germany] on June 12, which was passed to the family.

'The letter did not state that there was evidence or proof that Madeleine is dead, the MPS continues to investigate Madeleine's disappearance as a missing person investigation. No letter has been received by the Met from the German prosecutor.'

In fact in May last year, Kate and Gerry restated they still believed she could be alive.

A statement that month said: 'The Covid pandemic has made this year even more difficult for many reasons but thankfully the investigation to find Madeleine and her abductor has continued.

'We hang on to the hope, however small, that we will see Madeleine again. As we have said repeatedly, we need to know what has happened to our lovely daughter, no matter what. We are very grateful to the police for their continued efforts.'

Brueckner is currently serving a prison sentence for drug trafficking and is expected to remain behind bars until 2026 after losing a bid to overturn a rape conviction.

He was last year found guilty of the 2005 rape of a 72-year-old American woman in the same Portuguese resort from which Madeleine vanished and sentenced to seven years in jail, at a court in Brunswick, Lower Saxony.

Brueckner was in Praia da Luz when Madeleine went missing on the night of May 3, 2007, pinpointed there by a mobile phone call. Madeleine - then aged three - disappeared from an apartment building (above) where she was staying with her family

Brueckner was in Praia da Luz when Madeleine went missing on the night of May 3, 2007, pinpointed there by a mobile phone call.

Madeleine - then aged three - disappeared from an apartment where she was staying with her family.

Kate and Gerry, had been dining with friends in a nearby restaurant and periodically checking on Madeleine and her two siblings - Sean and Amelie - as they slept.

Around 9pm, Gerry went to check on the children and found them sleeping. At 9.30pm, a family friend went to the apartment and heard no noise, but did not check far enough into the room to see if Madeleine was there.

At 10pm, Kate went to check on the children and found Maddie was gone.

The disappearance was reported immediately and a search party launched the same evening including officers from the Guarda Nacional Republicana and the Polícia Judiciária, which launched an investigation.

Amaral was brought in to head that investigation and ran it for several months, infamously naming both Kate and Gerry as suspects.

He was sacked shortly after launching a public attack on British detectives - accusing them of only pursuing investigative lines given to them by the McCanns.

He has since published a book and appeared in a documentary called 'The Truth of the Lie' in which he repeated his claims against the McCanns.

The family won a libel suit against him in 2015, and were awarded £500,000 in damages.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10713505/Portuguese-police-continue-inquiry-Madeleine-McCanns-disappearance.html



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Post by Verdi 13.04.22 14:54

From the same report..

Brueckner is serving a seven-year jail sentence in Germany for raping a 72-year-old woman.

Brueckner is currently serving a prison sentence for drug trafficking and is expected to remain behind bars until 2026 after losing a bid to overturn a rape conviction.

And then..

He has since published a book and appeared in a documentary called 'The Truth of the Lie' in which he repeated his claims against the McCanns.

The family won a libel suit against him in 2015, and were awarded £500,000 in damages.

But it didn't end there did it?





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The family won a libel suit against him in 2015, and were awarded £500,000 in damages.



That is of course true. But like much else in this case it is not the WHOLE Truth.

Why the Media insist on not filling in the details and leaving it 'hanging' with the clear implication that that was the end of the story is . . how shall we say this diplomatically . . .?

Unclear.

Timothy Evans was found guilty and hanged for the murder of his wife and daughter.   That is true.
The Whole Truth is that this was a gross miscarriage of justice, based on inadequate investigation and Perjury, and some years later Christie was also found Guilty and hanged for the murder of the wife.
Any account which does not include the latter statement is therefore simultaneously True and False.
True because is is factually accurate.
False because one further question will demolish its universality.

Thus do the Press, media, and particularly the Gutter versions of both, operate.
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Critical bit that many seem to have overlooked.
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