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Post by sandancer 11.05.22 18:58

" Williams Thomas believes we'll never know who really abducted Madeleine " 

Shouldn't that read " what really happened to Madeleine " ?

As there is still no evidence of an abduction , only the former arguidos  and never cleared of suspicion parents say that's what happened !

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Post by CaKeLoveR 11.05.22 19:28

That is the one constant that nearly everybody has ignored from the beginning. (Except us).
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Post by sharonl 11.05.22 22:26

MWT is currently on C5 getting Patsy Brueckner off the hook, just like Smith stepped in to get Patsy Murat off the hook.

And what great timing Mark, just as the 15 year time scale is up.

MWT keeps referring to May 3rd, and abduction. It seems that his only purpose is to exonerate CB and not to find out what happened to Madeleine.

If MWT was genuine, I would suggest sending him the evidence that points to Madeleines' death on April 29th, but is it worth it?

As for Wolters, what a plonker laugh

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Post by sandancer 11.05.22 22:55

" abduction , taken " ! 

MWT talked to a lot of people .

How about Martin Grime , Eddie and Keela ? 

Oh , sorry I forgot , like the PJ Files not to be mentioned !

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Post by crusader 11.05.22 22:56

Nobody seems interested in looking into the alternative scenario, I wonder why that is.
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Post by CaKeLoveR 11.05.22 23:26

What a pointless exercise. I didn't even have a bar of chocolate to help me through it.
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Post by Verdi 12.05.22 0:43

I ain't watched anything - yet, to be honest I forgot all about it until now.

The point is I feel, the name Brueckner is kept in focus whether it be for or against, bit like the McCann name has been over the past fifteen years.  The McCann faction has used the name and opposing opinion to keep their McCann campaign up-front, just as is happening now with the name Brueckner.

Documentaries come and documentaries go, the only constant is the PJ files - they don't nor won't ever go away.

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Madeleine McCann documentary tracks down suspect Christian B’s ‘alibi’ before bombshell revelation

Alicia AdejobiWednesday 11 May 2022 11:07 pm

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Mark Williams-Tomas spent six months investigating Madeleine suspect Christian B (Pictures: Channel 5 / AFP)

A documentary about the abduction of Madeleine McCann revealed potentially groundbreaking new information about suspect Christian B’s alleged alibi.

Mark Williams-Tomas laid bare his six-month investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine in Portugal on May 3, 2007, in the Channel 5 documentary Madeleine McCann: The Case Against Christian B.

In the lengthy episode, Williams-Tomas delves into the evidence – or lack thereof – against Christian B, who was named as German prosecutors’ main suspect in June 2020.

The 44-year-old is currently serving time in a German prison for a number of sex and drug offences, but has vehemently denied having any involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance and possible murder.

Christian has said he has an alibi, claiming to have spent the night, in which Madeleine was last seen in Praia da Luz, with a woman on the other side of the country.

In one of the biggest moments of the documentary, Williams-Tomas moves to track down the woman in question. She was not around at the time but the investigative journalist was able to speak to her partner who divulged her version of events.

‘I showed him a document that says she was in Faro, he says “you’ve got good information”,’ Williams-Tomas recalled of his conversation with the partner that happened off-camera.

According to her boyfriend, the woman confirmed she was indeed in Portugal in May 2007 but she ‘can’t be sure’ if she saw Christian on the night Madeleine went missing.

‘It was 15 years ago she cannot remember,’ the partner told the reporter, who added: ‘But he does say from her account she was there in 2007.

‘It’s not rubbish, it’s not fabrication, perhaps [Christian] is telling the truth.’

During another equally compelling moment, Williams-Tomas details the correspondence he has had with Christian directly in letters sent from his German prison.



In one four-page letter, the suspect insisted that from September 2006 he did not return to Praia da Luz and began selling drugs from February 2007, which saw him fly back and forth from Spain at least six times.

‘This is what puts credibility to his letter,’ Williams-Tomas states, adding that he has a picture of Christian on a beach where he said he was selling drugs.

Elsewhere in his letter, Christian detailed his alibi and how he spent a week with the woman, staying at her parents house and in his campervan.

He admittedly still doesn’t remember if he was with the alibi on the specific night Madeleine went missing, but knows that he was with her from midnight to 2am. However, the toddler was taken from her hotel room three hours before that and so there are several hours of his whereabouts unaccounted for.

Christian B did offer another possible alibi, claiming he was stopped by Scotland Yard police three days after Madeleine’s abduction and that they took a photo of him.

‘He’s giving specific detail,’ Williams-Tomas noted but admitted that it’s not ‘the definitive version that immediately shuts down the German prosecutor’s case’.

Madeleine McCann: The Case Against Christian B is available to watch on My5.

https://metro.co.uk/2022/05/11/madeleine-mccann-documentary-tracks-down-suspect-christian-bs-alibi-16628770/

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Post by Verdi 12.05.22 0:59

Maddie McCann Channel 5 documentary: What revelations might we expect to see?

A NEW documentary concerning investigators' prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann airs tonight - which is expected to argue his innocence.  Will it send officers searching for the culprit back to square one?

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21:27, Wed, May 11, 2022 | UPDATED: 21:27, Wed, May 11, 2022

Madeleine McCann: The Case Against Christian B will air on Channel 5 at 9pm tonight, following the investigative work of Mark Williams-Thomas, a former police officer turned journalist. It is aimed at investigating Christian Brueckner, the convicted rapist and child sexual abuser German prosecutors investigating Maddie’s disappearance have named as their prime suspect.

Ahead of the documentary being released, the sleuth, who exposed Jimmy Savile as a paedophile, said that though he started from the a position of believing prosecutors were on the right track, the lack of evidence he found against Brueckner means he now believes him innocent.

Madeleine disappeared when she was three years old, while her family were on holiday in Portugal in 2007.

The public prosecutors’ office in Braunschweig announced in 2020 that they believed Brueckner was responsible for the killing of Madeleine McCann, after finding mobile GPS data which placed him within the area of the hotel the McCanns were staying in.

Christian Brueckner has always denied all allegations in relation to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

In the build-up to the documentary, Mr Williams-Thomas said he had been given an alibi by Brueckner in an exchange of letters from his Oldenburg prison cell, which the team had been able to independently verify.

He told sister paper the Star: “In that last letter that we have [from him], that we feature in the documentary, he tells us his alibi.

“We set out to see if his alibi had any validity. We took it with a real pinch of salt. Brueckner is protective of her [the alibi] – she has moved on with her life now and he doesn’t want to drag her into it.

“He would tell us who she was. We had to find her ourselves.”

When he tracked Brueckner’s alibi down, he claims she told him that she had been with him the week Madeleine went missing.

Despite being named as a suspect in the case two years ago, Brueckner has yet to be charged with any offence in relation to Maddie’s disappearance. So far, any evidence revealed by investigators has been circumstantial.

Hopes were raised last week following speculation that fibres from Madeleine’s pyjamas had been uncovered in Brueckner’s campervan – which he was known to use for drug dealing while in the Algarve.

Hans Christian Wolters, spokesperson for the public prosecutors’ office in Braunschweig, said that investigators had uncovered “some new evidence – not forensic evidence, but evidence”.

He also said previously Brueckner had not given German authorities any information, nor were they aware of any alibi. A Channel 5 insider accused Brueckner of playing “mind games” with investigators.

Mr Wolters remains “100 percent certain” they have the right man.

Last Thursday, he said that the fact that the Portuguese authorities had named Brueckner as a suspect as well “shows everyone that we are not on the wrong way”.

However, Mr Williams-Thomas believed the naming of Brueckner as an “arguido” – or formal suspect – by Portuguese authorities just before the 15th anniversary of the disappearance, rather than being a step closer to justice, could lead to disaster in the case.

He said: “In Portugal after 15 years any serious crime including murder can’t be prosecuted. Christian Brueckner was made an arguido to get around this. I believe he is innocent.

“Therefore, in Portugal, Madeleine McCann’s killer is in the clear.’’

Mr Thomas-Williams’ fears aren’t universal among those researching the case. Jon Clarke, a journalist who was one of the first on the scene in Praia da Luz and is working on his own documentary, said recently he still believes Brueckner to be responsible.

Speaking in the i newspaper yesterday, he said: “I worked on the show, but my beliefs do not coincide with Williams Thomas’ narrative, that Brueckner is innocent.”

New charges against Brueckner, unrelated to the disappearance of Madeleine, are expected to be brought imminently regarding his other alleged crimes, including the alleged rape of Irish tourism rep Hazel Behan in 2004.

It is expected these charges are aimed at keeping Brueckner in prison, having already reportedly been denied parole after still being deemed a risk to the public.

Mr Williams-Thomas also said: “I am no fan of Christian Brueckner. He has committed some horrific offences. But that doesn’t make him the killer of Madeleine McCann unless there is the evidence to support that. And there isn’t.

“They cannot place him outside Madeleine’s apartment on the day of the disappearance and furthermore he has a credible alibi which places him away from there.”

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1608951/Madeleine-McCann-channel-5-documentary-tonight-new-revelations

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Post by Verdi 12.05.22 1:06

Spoiler Alert !!!

Madeleine McCann was not abducted ....

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Post by Verdi 12.05.22 1:17

I had to chuckle this evening.  Nigel Farage on GB News speaks of the future of 'twitter' and it's potential for shutting down freedom of speech, a very overrated phrase in my view.

Personally, I don't think twitter or facebook to be a very good source to showcase a 'freedom of speech' debacle.

Perhaps relevant here because I'm somewhat bemused about the exchange of correspondence between Christian Brueckner from prison and an outsider.  I don't think it's been clarified (clarry-fied  affraid ) - is Mark Williams-Thomas the co-respondant or is it some self obsessed meddling twitteree who shall remain nameless?

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Post by PeterMac 12.05.22 7:24

Even MW-T slavishly follows the McCann "Version of the truth" by focussing on 2125-2135, 3/5/7

Every commentator trying to force the known facts into that narrow and impossible 'window of opportunity' is compelled to invent other things to make it fit.
Second abductor, taken to be sold, walked and wandered,  and all the rest of the nonsense we have seen over the last two weeks, and 14 years
Even Gonçalo Amaral now adverts to the possibility that the 'disappearance' occurred earlier in the week, which is where the available evidence leads and has led from the dogs' alerts onwards.

MWT at one stage says
"Do you think Christian Brückner could be involved in the Abduction and Murder of Madeleine McCann ?"

16 words. In which we see the following.
do you THINK > - note the word THINK.  Not, do you have EVIDENCE, or Is there any evidence ?  
could be involved >  Almost anyone COULD BE involved.  The question is whether they ARE involved, and whether there is sufficient EVIDENCE to put before a court of law to demonstrate that involvement
the Abduction and Murder of Madeleine McCann >.  Which begs the most important question. It makes a two huge assumptions and then seeks to justify them by posing it as a question.

Was Madeleine Abducted ?   Only two people say she was, and they have adduced no evidence to support the claim. No one else who has looked at the case has come up with anything to suggest this.
Was Madeleine Murdered ?   Those same two people deny this, as they have to for financial reasons.  
Only Wolters and one or two Tabloid journalists claim she was Murdered. The PJ say she died accidentally.  Grange say she is a Missing Person.
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Post by Silentscope 12.05.22 10:53

It seems that in their Attempts to ‘out do’ each other, the various Factions are tripping over themselves in their eagerness to be ‘the One who solved the Case’?

Sleepy Eeyore Pyjamas have now become Winnie the Pooh Pyjamas.
https://issuu.com/theolivepress/docs/olive_press_mallorca_-_isue_130

Frau W in the MW-T Doku says that Naksçije M is Russian. She is Kosovan / Albanian. Obviously she does not know her that well.

The Telephone number is no longer from Naksçije, but a Computer expert has found out it now is being used by a Paedophile in Germany.
How did this Portuguese number get re - issued in Germany?

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Martin Brunt was told about the Videos being sold in the Camper of Helge B, but failed to find the alleged Buyer. He wrote it off as a false report. Now, MW-T locates the man, who apparently throws him off his land? The whole thing at the Gates looked staged to me.

Early reports said the Videos were burnt. Who knows what to believe any more? 

Which is probably the whole point.
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Post by Silentscope 12.05.22 11:34

From Martin Brunt 11 Sep 20:


Crucial proof from the two witnesses was their story of breaking into Christian B’s home and stealing home-made movies of him raping a number of victims, although not the American widow.
But the courtroom was not proven the movies and one of the witnesses advised the judges the tapes had been destroyed in a caravan blaze.
Mr Fulscher stated: “What makes it worse is that the witnesses weren’t questioned for lengthy. The complete case took solely three days.
“I might have spent three days simply questioning one of the witnesses. The movies weren’t proven in courtroom, the place they are is a thriller.”
His lawyer says he was later advised the movies had been offered to a man who ran a distant farm retreat in Portugal.

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Image: The Alentejo area, Portugal. File pic

I drove for greater than an hour in scorching warmth into the hills above the Algarve coast, alongside twisting roads and dusty tracks to the farm that sits on a mountain prime with wonderful views throughout the Alentejo area.
But it was a fruitless journey, as a result of the man denied any information of the tapes and the witnesses. And he wasn’t happy to see me.
Source:
https://simplenews.co.uk/uk/the-disappearance-of-madeleine-mccann-have-they-got-the-right-man-this-time/
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Post by CaKeLoveR 12.05.22 12:10

The thing at the gates looked struck me as bad acting, as well. As for Wolters - he's an embarrassment to his trade.
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Post by Verdi 12.05.22 12:20

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In a nutshell!

What a load of old tosh - if aiming to locate the spoken word then look straight to the original source. Not some obscure anonymous non-entity.

No wonder this case is a never ending story.

When I open my emails and see notifications from CMOMM, I know exactly what to expect and I'm seldom wrong.

The name Brueckner has become an obsession in some quarters.

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Top left, if you squint and use a helping of imagination - is there a resemblance?

big grin That should keep social media busy for the ensuing months/years/decades.

Bottom line .... distraction!!!

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Post by onehand 12.05.22 12:32

quite a special about 'cb had do it' that version of the dripp you found on isdinges, silentscope.

but i loved the most read stories listing from the last 14 days the most, not even one piece of the drippers digest owner about 'he'who did it' had made it into the last 5. 

so even the expats in spain seems to have their priorities right.
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Post by Verdi 12.05.22 12:55

Now we are back at Blighty - Brighton to be precise.  It's years since I've been there. a nice distraction from the presenters mug.

Please excuse the levity - I can't help it.

Oh and here we go - straight to video. The mobile phone number leads straight to paedophilia and only a few minutes in.

Surprise! Surprise!

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Post by Verdi 12.05.22 13:08

Fabulous shots of Brighton Pier at sundown - no wonder Clarence Mitchell stood for election at Brighton and Hove.

Back in Germany and en-route to discover Brueckner's background. Incidentally, this has already been covered in the Discovery+ mokuplenty.

You have to laugh, the production's introductory scenes shows Williams-Thomas flying over somewhere in a helicopter, at the same time he's saying how he has covered the case on the ground since the beginning.

Another one first at the crime scene - well almost.

duh

To be continued ....

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Post by Verdi 12.05.22 13:28

Geeeez-us! I need to rest.

Having already tracked down Dieter about the mobile home, now he's unearthed Manfred Seyferth.

This was all covered by the Discovery+ production. Why is Mark Williams-Thomas now claiming ownership?

Is there a punch line somewhere boxing ?

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Post by CaKeLoveR 12.05.22 13:48

Half of his 'investigations' are from reading the forum, I would bet on it.
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Post by crusader 12.05.22 14:27

I found it very interesting, he set out believing CB was guilty and then at the end believing he was innocent.

I think CB is involved in some way with what happened to Madeleine, or at least knows what happened to her.

Who were the "couple" according to Kate who took Madeleine?
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Post by Silentscope 12.05.22 15:43

Sandra Felgeuiras will have you believe it was Christian B and Nicole F.

Wolters has already said she is only a Witness, and not a Suspect.
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