Olive Press: The Man the Money the Mischief
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Re: Olive Press: The Man the Money the Mischief
you know, she will maybe get that one now. our dear member pam, is a bit to shy to dare posting her very own crab overhere, but dear pammy is reading with us every day and hour.
i know you are not under the obligation to answer, but dear you often made my day. actually you are the only good reason to look at least weekly at twitter. and do a little walk in the facebook parcs.
do not loose your marvels granny, we love them!
pammy is the kind of people that gives me the strange urge, to get a songtext and play a bit around between my ears. usually that is very good thing, because my voice is not the kind you do actually want in your ears, not even your own ones.
but it has still some imperfections. the first connection resulted in pammy at sky with diamonds, but that in her ear did not give the best feel, actually maybe when you tell a bit more, just choose a type of social media, we will find it, about those crystals of you, i still can do with just a bit more to inspire me. it would be of help if your stones also work if you just have them in your hair, that would make it so much easier.
i can get it a lot better of course, it still needs some work.
pammy at sky,
with diamonds in her hair,
telling brunty , no despair,
madeleine has met her prince,
so no, no murderer or death to her,
she will be there.
but nahh i thought, that could be better, as pammy is always such an inspiration to all of us, her loving trolls, i wouldjust give her very own song.
so pammy this one is fully dedicated to you;
I have a madeleine in Morocco,
And she's coming. Hip-hip!
I have a madeleine in Morocco,
and she's coming, hi!
I have a madeleine in Morocco,
A madeleine in Morocco,
I've got a madeleine in Morocco, and she's coming.
Singing a ja, jippie jippie jee!
Singing a ja, jippie jippie jee!
Singing a ja jippie, a ja jippie
A ja jippie jippie jee!
And she rides with her two princes
When she comes, bump the bump, hi!
And she's riding with two princes
If she comes, bump the bump, hi hi!
And she rides with two princes,
She rides with two princes
She rides with two princes when she comes!
Singing a ja, jippie jippie jee!
Singing a ja, jippie jippie jee!
Singing a ja jippie, a ja jippie
A ja jippie jippie jee!
And we'll roast a pig on a spit, brunty, brunty
And we'll roast a pig on a spit, brunty brunty
And we'll roast a pig,
we'll roast a pig,
we'll roast a pig,
on a spit, brunty, brunty
Singing a ja, jippie jippie jee!
Singing a ja, jippie jippie jee!
Singing a ja jippie, a ja jippie
A ja jippie jippie jee!
And then she goes home again on the express train, tuut, tuut
And then she goes home again on the express train, tuut, tuut
And then she goes on the fast train
And then she goes with the fast train
And then she goes with the fast train
Home again, tuut, tuut
[i]Singing a ja, jippie jippie jee!
Singing a ja, jippie jippie jee!
Singing a ja jippie, a ja jippie
A ja jippie jippie jee!
it is to be done with this music, and you do not know how lucky you are, i found one, without the dutch original tekst.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgZcwgeCEFA
it is seen as an ideal song for long distances and long hours of nothing, ideal of course, now we have to wait til something real is happening.
to pleasure pammy, i got the songtext from the page of the alchemist society, but i had to get some of it, from the scouts also, thanks to deeple for their excellent translations, as always. but that messed up my script a bit.
and yes verdi, i do know it is a bit of topic, but there is a connection, pammy is also a fervent follower, a loving fan and excusor for jon. c. but you know it is so hard to keep your spirits up, i do think we needed just a song, just one. i promise i would not do it again. we all love pammy, she is just a integral part of our troll community, long time member she even is. so hard working with our cause. cb as a topic is already a farce since it started, and pammy deserves that song of course, so nice to have such a member.
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hello, pammy!
i know you are not under the obligation to answer, but dear you often made my day. actually you are the only good reason to look at least weekly at twitter. and do a little walk in the facebook parcs.
do not loose your marvels granny, we love them!
pammy is the kind of people that gives me the strange urge, to get a songtext and play a bit around between my ears. usually that is very good thing, because my voice is not the kind you do actually want in your ears, not even your own ones.
but it has still some imperfections. the first connection resulted in pammy at sky with diamonds, but that in her ear did not give the best feel, actually maybe when you tell a bit more, just choose a type of social media, we will find it, about those crystals of you, i still can do with just a bit more to inspire me. it would be of help if your stones also work if you just have them in your hair, that would make it so much easier.
i can get it a lot better of course, it still needs some work.
pammy at sky,
with diamonds in her hair,
telling brunty , no despair,
madeleine has met her prince,
so no, no murderer or death to her,
she will be there.
but nahh i thought, that could be better, as pammy is always such an inspiration to all of us, her loving trolls, i wouldjust give her very own song.
so pammy this one is fully dedicated to you;
I have a madeleine in Morocco,
And she's coming. Hip-hip!
I have a madeleine in Morocco,
and she's coming, hi!
I have a madeleine in Morocco,
A madeleine in Morocco,
I've got a madeleine in Morocco, and she's coming.
Singing a ja, jippie jippie jee!
Singing a ja, jippie jippie jee!
Singing a ja jippie, a ja jippie
A ja jippie jippie jee!
And she rides with her two princes
When she comes, bump the bump, hi!
And she's riding with two princes
If she comes, bump the bump, hi hi!
And she rides with two princes,
She rides with two princes
She rides with two princes when she comes!
Singing a ja, jippie jippie jee!
Singing a ja, jippie jippie jee!
Singing a ja jippie, a ja jippie
A ja jippie jippie jee!
And we'll roast a pig on a spit, brunty, brunty
And we'll roast a pig on a spit, brunty brunty
And we'll roast a pig,
we'll roast a pig,
we'll roast a pig,
on a spit, brunty, brunty
Singing a ja, jippie jippie jee!
Singing a ja, jippie jippie jee!
Singing a ja jippie, a ja jippie
A ja jippie jippie jee!
And then she goes home again on the express train, tuut, tuut
And then she goes home again on the express train, tuut, tuut
And then she goes on the fast train
And then she goes with the fast train
And then she goes with the fast train
Home again, tuut, tuut
[i]Singing a ja, jippie jippie jee!
Singing a ja, jippie jippie jee!
Singing a ja jippie, a ja jippie
A ja jippie jippie jee!
it is to be done with this music, and you do not know how lucky you are, i found one, without the dutch original tekst.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgZcwgeCEFA
it is seen as an ideal song for long distances and long hours of nothing, ideal of course, now we have to wait til something real is happening.
to pleasure pammy, i got the songtext from the page of the alchemist society, but i had to get some of it, from the scouts also, thanks to deeple for their excellent translations, as always. but that messed up my script a bit.
and yes verdi, i do know it is a bit of topic, but there is a connection, pammy is also a fervent follower, a loving fan and excusor for jon. c. but you know it is so hard to keep your spirits up, i do think we needed just a song, just one. i promise i would not do it again. we all love pammy, she is just a integral part of our troll community, long time member she even is. so hard working with our cause. cb as a topic is already a farce since it started, and pammy deserves that song of course, so nice to have such a member.
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Re: Olive Press: The Man the Money the Mischief
onehand wrote:and yes verdi, i do know it is a bit of topic, but there is a connection, pammy is also a fervent follower, a loving fan and excusor for jon. c. but you know it is so hard to keep your spirits up, i do think we needed just a song, just one. i promise i would not do it again. we all love pammy, she is just a integral part of our troll community, long time member she even is. so hard working with our cause. cb as a topic is already a farce since it started, and pammy deserves that song of course, so nice to have such a member.
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Yes, a very big bit off topic!
If a McCann supporter, or anyone else, registers with CMOMM they are welcome to fight their own corner hereon and expect challenge if commentary warrants - that way we have a fair exchange without bitterness.
People in the past and present have joined with the sole purpose of disrupting the forum, they are very soon weeded out and disposed of accordingly. So far that approach has worked favourably.
Of course there are spooks among us, nothing much can be done about that but providing they stay quiet and just watch, it's not seen as a problem. They have no power on the forum. Over on twitter/facebook they can do as they please - and do, their perverted course has no place on CMOMM.
CMOMM has been named 'the cesspit' by pro-McCann devotees, please let's not give them fodder to justify.

Now please ....

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onehand wrote:but looking at the link, because of my lousy handiwork it would not work properly any longer of course.
https://inews.co.uk/opinion/i-was-one-of-the-first-reporters-on-the-scene-after-madeleine-mccanns-disappearance-this-is-what-i-remember-1619856
Not sure what you're getting at here but if for some reason you can't access the original article, I posted it up-page..
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t17161p50-olive-press-the-man-the-money-the-mischief#453019
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i know, i saw the link, with opinion in it and highlighted it, your link was very okay.
but it is very usual that papers, online also have a part to dedicate to opinions, they themselves do not want to address as the view of owners, editors and other people who work for that publisher.
so it is not a piece under redaction of this publisher, but just a letter to the publisher from jon c.
well we all know where jon c. got that inspiration.
it is often not a compliment if your stance did not make it outside the box of opinion.
well and about dear pammy, as she has chosen not to address anything overhere, but loves it to post pieces from this forum onto het favorit channel twitter, and most fora have somewhere in the guidelines, and yes, i never took the time to read them, it is just a guess, you can not be non-polite or negative against another member, i just used all positives i could swallow.
but still isn't it a shame, so many members who are reading with us, on a daily base, that be to shy and flabbergasted to post themselves.
but again i promise i would not do it again, our wise forummanager. but i am not a bit sorry. so i spare you the posting of my choice for jon c. that would work marvelous on paradise by the dashbord lights and i'm a believer(of the mccanns) for mwt.
but it is very usual that papers, online also have a part to dedicate to opinions, they themselves do not want to address as the view of owners, editors and other people who work for that publisher.
so it is not a piece under redaction of this publisher, but just a letter to the publisher from jon c.
well we all know where jon c. got that inspiration.
it is often not a compliment if your stance did not make it outside the box of opinion.
well and about dear pammy, as she has chosen not to address anything overhere, but loves it to post pieces from this forum onto het favorit channel twitter, and most fora have somewhere in the guidelines, and yes, i never took the time to read them, it is just a guess, you can not be non-polite or negative against another member, i just used all positives i could swallow.
but still isn't it a shame, so many members who are reading with us, on a daily base, that be to shy and flabbergasted to post themselves.
but again i promise i would not do it again, our wise forummanager. but i am not a bit sorry. so i spare you the posting of my choice for jon c. that would work marvelous on paradise by the dashbord lights and i'm a believer(of the mccanns) for mwt.
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Clarke's ramblings after last nights documentary
on Clarke
4 mins ·
Just a few comments on the MWT doc from last night :
Keep up the trolling.
It is obvious that MWT knows relatively little in this case and I don't think his approach helped. People didn't want to talk to him. Jon managed to get some interesting information out of Cheyenne, all MWT got was a knife thrown at him and chased off with a shovel. Jon knows far more about this case than Mark and I have a feeling he will look back on his doc with regret some day. It really was hyped up and didn't deliver what he advertised in the build up. Little explanation of any of his reasoning or evidence he collected.
I'm sure MWT said that CB isn't fully committing to the alibi either. It sounded more like CB was saying "I think" I was with the woman on the 3rd but isn't sure. Which, if is the case, MWT has been deliberately mis-selling the alibi to the public all these months. He even said on 'This Morning' that CB claims he was with this woman but that the alibi wasn’t sure. But by the sounds of the letter, not even CB is being committal about the statement either. MWT has taken this tentative info and ran with it as a definitive alibi to promote the doc when it is no such thing.
Well. I think it's safe to say the MWT was perhaps a little overhyped.
What a nonsensical pile of deduction that was on the part of MWT. "CB said he was somewhere else", MWT says he can't disprove it because his alibi remembers naff all except she was in Portugal in May 2007 but sure, that'll do. Solid. Besides, CB was so open and honest with MWT by admitting he was dealing drugs on Barranco beach around May 2007, and MWT found a picture of his van there, so CB must be telling the truth about this detail and everything else. Yep. It's so obvious when you don't think about it.
Hey Mark, do you want to buy a bridge mate? I'll do you a great deal.
Us here at Websleuths pointed out that a photo of CB's van was parked at Barranco Beach way back in 2020.
MWT has really mis-sold the evidence he claimed to have for this doc IMO. The 'alibi' is no such thing for starters. Not only does the 'fling' not confirm CB's whereabouts for the 3rd, CB says in the letter to MWT he isn't totally sure that's where he was that night either.
I was disappointed with the evidence MWT put forward about the phones as well. He stated the phone could have been within 35km of the PdL mast (or something like that) but didn't give any explanation for how he came to that conclusion. The assertion seems completely at odds with what was stated in the Jutta Rabe doc where they went through it in detail and identified the phone had to have been within a 5 minute radius of the center mast.
As for the other phone owners he apparently identified, again the evidence was completely lacking. The 683 number which he identified as belonging to someone who had searched for disturbing (*advertiser censored*: lets say explicit adult material) appeared to be someone who had the number recently. There was no evidence offered that this person had the phone in 2007 though. And the 680 number that MWT said belonged to a friend of CB's wasn't really explained properly either. From what I gathered, someone had told him a man living near Foral used the number up to 5 months before the disappearance (which I guess coincides with the end of CB's incarceration time, so could it be this person was looking after CB's phone while he was inside?). MWT doesn't really confirm this evidence though, he speaks to the man's wife who doesn't recognise the number and then MWT deduces this man must have had 2 phones. Doesn't seem to occur to him that CB and this man were friends and there could be other explanations for them both having access to this phone.
All in all, the doc was very disappointing and I don't know whether there was stuff they had to cut (for whatever reasons) but the evidence MWT offered up was very speculative and paper thin. That said, the doc did bring up one or two other interesting details and was quite revealing in terms of key people who were notably absent from MWT's discussion points. It's worth a watch anyway just to see Cheyenne greeting MWT at his house! Yikes.
Mr Wolters, who is heading the case in Germany, said: “Because Mr Williams-Thomas doesn’t know the files we are not surprised by his opinion. It’s a fact that the suspect has no alibi.
“We found nobody who gives Christian B an alibi. And the suspect doesn’t claim an alibi.”
Madeleine McCann case prosecutor claims murder suspect Christian B has no alibi
It was mostly stuff we already knew about. The main take away from it was that the veracity of the "new evidence" MWT promoted the doc against was grossly overexaggerated. He doesn't establish any corroboration of CB's supposed alibi, certainly not for the days around the disappearance. In fact, MWT negated to mention in any of his promotions that CB isn't actually sure himself if he was with this woman on the 3rd. So it seems this is just an "it's possible" type of alibi that FF and CB are touting.
MWT basically makes a speculative assumption that because CB told the truth about some things, maybe he is telling the truth about everything else. That's about the up and down of it, no real "facts" established by MWT.
There were a couple of new things brought up, nothing major but for those following the case it is still probably worth a watch. MWT having a knife lobbed at him and then chased off with a shovel was probably the biggest surprise of the doc though.
Seems like all out war now. MWT has made a grave mistake backing CB here IMO. He is rattled and acting unprofessional now amidst the criticsim.
One could safely say, "What alibi?"
MWT did not set the heather alight with his documentary. In fact I think he systematically destroyed any credibility he might have enjoyed as he worked tortuously through the ninety minutes of it.
You are a member of a coterie which has spent fifteen years "questioning" the McCanns and the absolute lack of any evidence at all for justifying that has never seemed to bother you.
It rather says it all that your "questioning" is reserved for the spokesman for the forces of law and order investigating crimes against children and nary a "question" enters your mind concerning a proven predatory sex beast and a proven paedophile.
Says it all really.
Wonder why this girl had a pepper spray which she tried to board a plane with in her possession?
Interestingly MWT seems to think that Scotland Yard had a road block in place where they were taking photographs of the occupants of cars passing through.
It seems to me that Brueckner endeavoured to set up an alibi for a planned abduction by telling this girlfriend that he was somewhere else on the 3rd of May. She initially appears to have believed him. And then balked at telling downright lies.
Not that any of this even remotely matters. Brueckner's Alibi is dodgy. A half decent Barrister will nail that.
Mark Williams Thomas has blown it again.
Plus comments: https://www.facebook.com/groups/disgracedjournalistjonclarkeolivepress.debunked/posts/520663823106963/
on Clarke
4 mins ·
Just a few comments on the MWT doc from last night :
Keep up the trolling.
It is obvious that MWT knows relatively little in this case and I don't think his approach helped. People didn't want to talk to him. Jon managed to get some interesting information out of Cheyenne, all MWT got was a knife thrown at him and chased off with a shovel. Jon knows far more about this case than Mark and I have a feeling he will look back on his doc with regret some day. It really was hyped up and didn't deliver what he advertised in the build up. Little explanation of any of his reasoning or evidence he collected.
I'm sure MWT said that CB isn't fully committing to the alibi either. It sounded more like CB was saying "I think" I was with the woman on the 3rd but isn't sure. Which, if is the case, MWT has been deliberately mis-selling the alibi to the public all these months. He even said on 'This Morning' that CB claims he was with this woman but that the alibi wasn’t sure. But by the sounds of the letter, not even CB is being committal about the statement either. MWT has taken this tentative info and ran with it as a definitive alibi to promote the doc when it is no such thing.
Well. I think it's safe to say the MWT was perhaps a little overhyped.
What a nonsensical pile of deduction that was on the part of MWT. "CB said he was somewhere else", MWT says he can't disprove it because his alibi remembers naff all except she was in Portugal in May 2007 but sure, that'll do. Solid. Besides, CB was so open and honest with MWT by admitting he was dealing drugs on Barranco beach around May 2007, and MWT found a picture of his van there, so CB must be telling the truth about this detail and everything else. Yep. It's so obvious when you don't think about it.
Hey Mark, do you want to buy a bridge mate? I'll do you a great deal.
Us here at Websleuths pointed out that a photo of CB's van was parked at Barranco Beach way back in 2020.
MWT has really mis-sold the evidence he claimed to have for this doc IMO. The 'alibi' is no such thing for starters. Not only does the 'fling' not confirm CB's whereabouts for the 3rd, CB says in the letter to MWT he isn't totally sure that's where he was that night either.
I was disappointed with the evidence MWT put forward about the phones as well. He stated the phone could have been within 35km of the PdL mast (or something like that) but didn't give any explanation for how he came to that conclusion. The assertion seems completely at odds with what was stated in the Jutta Rabe doc where they went through it in detail and identified the phone had to have been within a 5 minute radius of the center mast.
As for the other phone owners he apparently identified, again the evidence was completely lacking. The 683 number which he identified as belonging to someone who had searched for disturbing (*advertiser censored*: lets say explicit adult material) appeared to be someone who had the number recently. There was no evidence offered that this person had the phone in 2007 though. And the 680 number that MWT said belonged to a friend of CB's wasn't really explained properly either. From what I gathered, someone had told him a man living near Foral used the number up to 5 months before the disappearance (which I guess coincides with the end of CB's incarceration time, so could it be this person was looking after CB's phone while he was inside?). MWT doesn't really confirm this evidence though, he speaks to the man's wife who doesn't recognise the number and then MWT deduces this man must have had 2 phones. Doesn't seem to occur to him that CB and this man were friends and there could be other explanations for them both having access to this phone.
All in all, the doc was very disappointing and I don't know whether there was stuff they had to cut (for whatever reasons) but the evidence MWT offered up was very speculative and paper thin. That said, the doc did bring up one or two other interesting details and was quite revealing in terms of key people who were notably absent from MWT's discussion points. It's worth a watch anyway just to see Cheyenne greeting MWT at his house! Yikes.
Mr Wolters, who is heading the case in Germany, said: “Because Mr Williams-Thomas doesn’t know the files we are not surprised by his opinion. It’s a fact that the suspect has no alibi.
“We found nobody who gives Christian B an alibi. And the suspect doesn’t claim an alibi.”
Madeleine McCann case prosecutor claims murder suspect Christian B has no alibi
It was mostly stuff we already knew about. The main take away from it was that the veracity of the "new evidence" MWT promoted the doc against was grossly overexaggerated. He doesn't establish any corroboration of CB's supposed alibi, certainly not for the days around the disappearance. In fact, MWT negated to mention in any of his promotions that CB isn't actually sure himself if he was with this woman on the 3rd. So it seems this is just an "it's possible" type of alibi that FF and CB are touting.
MWT basically makes a speculative assumption that because CB told the truth about some things, maybe he is telling the truth about everything else. That's about the up and down of it, no real "facts" established by MWT.
There were a couple of new things brought up, nothing major but for those following the case it is still probably worth a watch. MWT having a knife lobbed at him and then chased off with a shovel was probably the biggest surprise of the doc though.
Seems like all out war now. MWT has made a grave mistake backing CB here IMO. He is rattled and acting unprofessional now amidst the criticsim.
One could safely say, "What alibi?"
MWT did not set the heather alight with his documentary. In fact I think he systematically destroyed any credibility he might have enjoyed as he worked tortuously through the ninety minutes of it.
You are a member of a coterie which has spent fifteen years "questioning" the McCanns and the absolute lack of any evidence at all for justifying that has never seemed to bother you.
It rather says it all that your "questioning" is reserved for the spokesman for the forces of law and order investigating crimes against children and nary a "question" enters your mind concerning a proven predatory sex beast and a proven paedophile.
Says it all really.
Wonder why this girl had a pepper spray which she tried to board a plane with in her possession?
Interestingly MWT seems to think that Scotland Yard had a road block in place where they were taking photographs of the occupants of cars passing through.
It seems to me that Brueckner endeavoured to set up an alibi for a planned abduction by telling this girlfriend that he was somewhere else on the 3rd of May. She initially appears to have believed him. And then balked at telling downright lies.
Not that any of this even remotely matters. Brueckner's Alibi is dodgy. A half decent Barrister will nail that.
Mark Williams Thomas has blown it again.
Plus comments: https://www.facebook.com/groups/disgracedjournalistjonclarkeolivepress.debunked/posts/520663823106963/
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That really is a ramble. From the time stamp posted late at night.
But he misses the main point.
For there to be an Alibi there needs to be an allegation that something happened at a particular time.
And it does not become legally important until that allegation is made, in the form of an opening statement in formal interview, or on a charge sheet.
"That you did, on Thursday 3rd May 2007, at Praia da Luz, in the County of Portimão, Algarve, between the hours of 9:25pm and 9;35pm unlawfully take and carry away Madeleine Beth McCann, from APARTMENT 5A, Ocean club in the said town, without the consent of her parents..."
The defence can then deny the date, the time, the place, the person, or even claim the parents gave consent.
The suggestion that there was an Abduction between 2125 and 2135 on 3/5/7 is pure 'belief', backed by no evidence at all.
Only the two principal suspects have ever claimed it, and even they are unable to point to any evidence. What bits they did point to – shutters, window, curtains, entry by front door, Tannerman, high shelf . . . – have all been shown to be not as they initially stated.
JC and MWT jointly however follow what seems to have become an article of faith. And refuse to consider any other possibility.
Quite why we do not know.
But he misses the main point.
For there to be an Alibi there needs to be an allegation that something happened at a particular time.
And it does not become legally important until that allegation is made, in the form of an opening statement in formal interview, or on a charge sheet.
"That you did, on Thursday 3rd May 2007, at Praia da Luz, in the County of Portimão, Algarve, between the hours of 9:25pm and 9;35pm unlawfully take and carry away Madeleine Beth McCann, from APARTMENT 5A, Ocean club in the said town, without the consent of her parents..."
The defence can then deny the date, the time, the place, the person, or even claim the parents gave consent.
The suggestion that there was an Abduction between 2125 and 2135 on 3/5/7 is pure 'belief', backed by no evidence at all.
Only the two principal suspects have ever claimed it, and even they are unable to point to any evidence. What bits they did point to – shutters, window, curtains, entry by front door, Tannerman, high shelf . . . – have all been shown to be not as they initially stated.
JC and MWT jointly however follow what seems to have become an article of faith. And refuse to consider any other possibility.
Quite why we do not know.
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what would happen if the so ever polite germans would ask laughing jon for his alibi for some days in may 2007.
that would become a bit of a charade, so he would be the last one to make a joke about the alibi of others.
it is only the mccanns and friends, that could tell their movements by the minute, and they had no watches and phones with them that night the alarm was set off, there must even be a video that stated that. i always wondered about that riddle, how bad their memory was, like not knowing which door you used, seeing a shelf that never have been there. are able to tell when a picture was taken and that the time was out. but at dinnertime they could remember it on the minute.
so when a person that has nothing to do in the case, after 15 years can tell what he was doing about in that week, and the other party does not say that cannot have happened, but cannot be absolutely sure about timings and the days, that is still seen as a quite good memory.
while the person who makes all in a joke, can still not remember what he did, around what time and if he actually did something criminal, or not, like trampling on a possible crime scene. and tells about every week a new concoction of his version of his truth.
well i do live in a country, where even a minister-president can get a way with just; i do not have any active memory about that. against that threshold cb got a fair bit of a story out as an alibi. and is what the other party could say to confirm that, after 15 years. that is quite a good memory!
and in the end it is not a prosecution officer that does have to believe it, it will be a job to convincing a judge in court. and people like a jon c. have just been nice dogsbodies to picture the picture of guilty, i know in his country of origine, there are juries, so the man has very little experiences in talking dirty about people under investigation that are already are named as suspects.
the prosecution is never the one that have to believe a suspect, it is all about the chance the judge will believe and accept it. that is what they will decide on. because of how sta braunschweig decided to portret themselves in this case, they got so much egg on their faces, they can not leave it out of the court. you mixed up some pictures jon.
that would become a bit of a charade, so he would be the last one to make a joke about the alibi of others.
it is only the mccanns and friends, that could tell their movements by the minute, and they had no watches and phones with them that night the alarm was set off, there must even be a video that stated that. i always wondered about that riddle, how bad their memory was, like not knowing which door you used, seeing a shelf that never have been there. are able to tell when a picture was taken and that the time was out. but at dinnertime they could remember it on the minute.
so when a person that has nothing to do in the case, after 15 years can tell what he was doing about in that week, and the other party does not say that cannot have happened, but cannot be absolutely sure about timings and the days, that is still seen as a quite good memory.
while the person who makes all in a joke, can still not remember what he did, around what time and if he actually did something criminal, or not, like trampling on a possible crime scene. and tells about every week a new concoction of his version of his truth.
well i do live in a country, where even a minister-president can get a way with just; i do not have any active memory about that. against that threshold cb got a fair bit of a story out as an alibi. and is what the other party could say to confirm that, after 15 years. that is quite a good memory!
and in the end it is not a prosecution officer that does have to believe it, it will be a job to convincing a judge in court. and people like a jon c. have just been nice dogsbodies to picture the picture of guilty, i know in his country of origine, there are juries, so the man has very little experiences in talking dirty about people under investigation that are already are named as suspects.
the prosecution is never the one that have to believe a suspect, it is all about the chance the judge will believe and accept it. that is what they will decide on. because of how sta braunschweig decided to portret themselves in this case, they got so much egg on their faces, they can not leave it out of the court. you mixed up some pictures jon.
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PeterMac wrote:That really is a ramble. From the time stamp posted late at night.
But he misses the main point.
For there to be an Alibi there needs to be an allegation that something happened at a particular time.
And it does not become legally important until that allegation is made, in the form of an opening statement in formal interview, or on a charge sheet.
"That you did, on Thursday 3rd May 2007, at Praia da Luz, in the County of Portimão, Algarve, between the hours of 9:25pm and 9;35pm unlawfully take and carry away Madeleine Beth McCann, from APARTMENT 5A, Ocean club in the said town, without the consent of her parents..."
The defence can then deny the date, the time, the place, the person, or even claim the parents gave consent.
The suggestion that there was an Abduction between 2125 and 2135 on 3/5/7 is pure 'belief', backed by no evidence at all.
Only the two principal suspects have ever claimed it, and even they are unable to point to any evidence. What bits they did point to – shutters, window, curtains, entry by front door, Tannerman, high shelf . . . – have all been shown to be not as they initially stated.
JC and MWT jointly however follow what seems to have become an article of faith. And refuse to consider any other possibility.
Quite why we do not know.
It reminds me of the Murat case. Take the blame for a while to take the heat of the McCanns, then enter Smith to exonerate him by claiming that the man he saw was definitely not Murat. That was followed up with a large payout.
Is CB a willing patsy? Did MWT appear in the nick of time, just as the 15 year period was coming to a close, to exonerate CB?
CB is allegedly writing a book now. But why was he isolated? Why was he never questioned before? Why speak and give an alibi now? In how many cases has he been the suspect, only to later be exonerated? Nothing about the CB case makes any sense, unless he is in it.
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@sharonl
CB was isolated at his own request, after he was exposed Publicly by the British press. He wrote a Letter of Complaint to the Ministry of Justice in September 2021 in which he reported insults, abuse and death threats from fellow inmates.
Apparently if a Questioning of a Suspect is to take place, the Defendants Lawyer is Automatically granted ‘Akteneinsicht’ permission to read the Prosecution file. Clarke believes CB has already been granted Access to the Joana E file, which led him to believe that his appearance had been altered to better fit the description of the Witness.
If this is to be a ‘Trial by Media’ then Attack may be his best Defense.
I doubt that he is a ‘willing Patsy’.
They have just saved their ‘best Suspect’ until last.
CB was isolated at his own request, after he was exposed Publicly by the British press. He wrote a Letter of Complaint to the Ministry of Justice in September 2021 in which he reported insults, abuse and death threats from fellow inmates.
Apparently if a Questioning of a Suspect is to take place, the Defendants Lawyer is Automatically granted ‘Akteneinsicht’ permission to read the Prosecution file. Clarke believes CB has already been granted Access to the Joana E file, which led him to believe that his appearance had been altered to better fit the description of the Witness.
If this is to be a ‘Trial by Media’ then Attack may be his best Defense.
I doubt that he is a ‘willing Patsy’.
They have just saved their ‘best Suspect’ until last.
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All media and press speculation.
As the Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann has been since the night of 3rd/4th May 2007.
The case is simple.
Prolonged to assure the prime suspects exoneration from prosecution and persecution, the prime suspects being Gerald and Kate McCann.
That is where the story begins and ends .... Gerald and Kate McCann.
Anything else is but window dressing designed to mislead - and it works every time
To this day infiltraitors are planted to perpetuate the deception - it works every time. Ain't that right?
So here we are fifteen years down the line ....
As the Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann has been since the night of 3rd/4th May 2007.
The case is simple.
Prolonged to assure the prime suspects exoneration from prosecution and persecution, the prime suspects being Gerald and Kate McCann.
That is where the story begins and ends .... Gerald and Kate McCann.
Anything else is but window dressing designed to mislead - and it works every time
To this day infiltraitors are planted to perpetuate the deception - it works every time. Ain't that right?
So here we are fifteen years down the line ....

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Having just seen Kate McCann's reference to Sunday Mirror journalist and the fingering of Robert Murat in her autobiographical novel 'madeleine', which incidentally led to his being designated arguido so early in the investigation, it prompted me to poke about JC's booky wooky to see what he had to say about it ..

Interesting wouldn't you say ....


Interesting wouldn't you say ....

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I think Jon 'the klaxon' Clarke, he of the Olive Press, must be feeling the pinch.
I've been bombarded with enticing emails from the Olive Press over the last 24 hours, luring me with benefits of being a subscriber!
I'll take a rain check, or maybe locate a more reliable source of information that doesn't involve payment ....
I've been bombarded with enticing emails from the Olive Press over the last 24 hours, luring me with benefits of being a subscriber!
I'll take a rain check, or maybe locate a more reliable source of information that doesn't involve payment ....
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It would be a shame if people could read his Paper without having to Register or take out a Subscription.
https://issuu.com/theolivepress
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Yes I am aware of that ^^^ as I'm in no doubt Jon Clarke of the Olive Press is also aware but it's not the point.
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UPDATE:
Despite the denials, despite the threats including of legal action against those who pointed it out, despite the wriggling and squirming . . .
The MUCKRACK entry by S. Madueño drawing his readers attention to the article about Clarke's book, which says, in QUOTES, that Jon Clarke, owner of the "Olive Press" and author of "My Search for Madeleine", arrived in Praia da Luz at half past ONE in the morning, having received a phone call 'that very day' . . .
is still there, unamended, unexplained, unedited, unredacted
It is clear that Madueño stands by what he wrote, both in the extract and in the article.
Clarke has still failed or refused to explain.

https://muckrack.com/jj-madueno-1/articles
Screen shot taken 09:10 CEST, 8/6/22
Despite the denials, despite the threats including of legal action against those who pointed it out, despite the wriggling and squirming . . .
The MUCKRACK entry by S. Madueño drawing his readers attention to the article about Clarke's book, which says, in QUOTES, that Jon Clarke, owner of the "Olive Press" and author of "My Search for Madeleine", arrived in Praia da Luz at half past ONE in the morning, having received a phone call 'that very day' . . .
is still there, unamended, unexplained, unedited, unredacted
It is clear that Madueño stands by what he wrote, both in the extract and in the article.
Clarke has still failed or refused to explain.

https://muckrack.com/jj-madueno-1/articles
Screen shot taken 09:10 CEST, 8/6/22
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Explained: The new clues that link German sex offender to missing Madeleine McCann
By Jon Clarke (publisher and Editor) - 20 Jan, 2022 @ 18:45
https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2022/01/20/exclusive-new-madeleine-clues-linking-german-paedophile-handed-to-police-from-hard-hitting-tv-documentary/
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For the thousandth and hopefully the last time .... where is the evidence?
I don't mean hearsay by word of the gutter press nor scraps of redacted printed paper flashed about by the likes of Sandra Felgueiras, flying the flag of Brueckner guilt in connection with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
Jon Clarke and others of his ilk are profiting on the back of a missing three year old child - almost certainly dead. I find that despicable in no uncertain terms.
I don't look for gutter press reports, I don't look for amateur super sleuths who feign knowledge of the law across Europe, I don't look to documentaries who are so far removed from the truth they belong only on the cutting room floor.
I look for evidence of past crimes and convictions in the form of official documentation - until then I can't/won't believe a word I read.
That aside, unless it can be proven that Christian Brueckner was in any way involved with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann he is irrelevant.
The name is being kept alive by people anxious to see Brueckner as the perpetrator of a crime .... Madeleine McCann's disappearance. To date there is no evidence to implicate Brueckner - not even circumstantial evidence - not even hearsay.
Brueckner is not the prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, Brueckner is not in the frame - at least not in reality, the parents McCann are the prime suspects in the disappearance of their own precious three year old child .... Madeleine.
Always go back to the beginning, the rest is window dressing.
Madeleine McCann was not abducted.
Now go away Mr Clarke, you are perverting the course of justice!
By Jon Clarke (publisher and Editor) - 20 Jan, 2022 @ 18:45
[snipped from article for relevance]
The Olive Press revealed last month that Brueckner would be charged with three other sex crimes in February.
In particular, he is facing 'up to nine years' for the rape of Irish woman Hazel Behan, in 2004, which he is said to have filmed.
He will also be charged with the sexual assault of a 10-year-ole girl on a beach, near Praia da Luz, justa month before Maddie went missing.
And in the most recent case, he will be charged with exposing himself to four children in a play park in a town, 40 minutes inland from Praia da Luz, in 2017.
In total, the German pervert has nearly 20 convictions spread around Europe.
In 2016, police in Germany found 'over 20,000 photos' and videos of child sex abuse and other degrading pornography buried under the dead body of Brueckner's dog in East Germany.
https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2022/01/20/exclusive-new-madeleine-clues-linking-german-paedophile-handed-to-police-from-hard-hitting-tv-documentary/
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For the thousandth and hopefully the last time .... where is the evidence?
I don't mean hearsay by word of the gutter press nor scraps of redacted printed paper flashed about by the likes of Sandra Felgueiras, flying the flag of Brueckner guilt in connection with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
Jon Clarke and others of his ilk are profiting on the back of a missing three year old child - almost certainly dead. I find that despicable in no uncertain terms.
I don't look for gutter press reports, I don't look for amateur super sleuths who feign knowledge of the law across Europe, I don't look to documentaries who are so far removed from the truth they belong only on the cutting room floor.
I look for evidence of past crimes and convictions in the form of official documentation - until then I can't/won't believe a word I read.
That aside, unless it can be proven that Christian Brueckner was in any way involved with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann he is irrelevant.
The name is being kept alive by people anxious to see Brueckner as the perpetrator of a crime .... Madeleine McCann's disappearance. To date there is no evidence to implicate Brueckner - not even circumstantial evidence - not even hearsay.
Brueckner is not the prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, Brueckner is not in the frame - at least not in reality, the parents McCann are the prime suspects in the disappearance of their own precious three year old child .... Madeleine.
Always go back to the beginning, the rest is window dressing.
Madeleine McCann was not abducted.
Now go away Mr Clarke, you are perverting the course of justice!
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I am tracking back the stories of the "Fibres in the campervan" and of the faciomaxilliary surgery and advanced orthodontic work.
So far all the arrows point to the usual suspect, but I am not there quite yet.
Any help would be appreciated.


Perhaps I should say even at this early stage, there weren't any, and there wasn't any. [Private source close to the investigation]
So far all the arrows point to the usual suspect, but I am not there quite yet.
Any help would be appreciated.


Perhaps I should say even at this early stage, there weren't any, and there wasn't any. [Private source close to the investigation]
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peter, you mean this source for fibergate;
https://twitter.com/olivepress/status/1527333778779033600
the article in his dripp is there, but of course it is no longer free. it is dated at 3 may 2022.
https://twitter.com/olivepress/status/1527333778779033600
the article in his dripp is there, but of course it is no longer free. it is dated at 3 may 2022.
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I thought it was the Portuguese reporter, Sandra Felgueiras, who was responsible for the rumoured 'evidence' allegedly found in one of the camper vans allegedly used by Christian Breuckner. This reportage I believe relates specifically to the run-down old van, not the luxurious mobile home with room to hide a child and a stash of cannabis.
Another example of word mangling to fit the agenda and sensationalize an otherwise mundane press report.
If there be even a vestige of truth in this story of 'when Ms Felgueiras met Herr Wolters', I imagine Wolters thought bubble would be .... 'sod off you nosy old trout - do you really think I would reveal all to you?'
‘Fibres from Madeleine McCann’s pyjamas were found in prime suspect Christian Brueckner’s campervan’
May 4, 2022
German investigators have discovered ‘proof’ of lacking Madeleine McCann within the van of prime suspect Christian Brueckner it was sensationally claimed tonight – 15 years to the day Maddie disappeared in Portugal.
The proof in query is regarded as ‘telltale’ fibres from the three-year-old’s pyjamas.
Talking on Portuguese TV, prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters once more reiterated he believed the toddler was useless and insisted Brueckner, 45, was the person accountable.
Mr Wolters was interviewed on a present known as Sabado, in an hour lengthy programme to mark the fifteenth anniversary of Madeleine’s disappearance from her mother and father vacation residence at Praia da Luz on Portugal’s Algarve coast.
When requested by host Sandra Felgueiras whether or not it was ‘true that you’ve discovered one thing of Madeleine McCann in Christian Brueckner’s van’ in connection to the fibres, Mr Wolters replied: ‘I am not going to touch upon the small print of the investigation.’
However when pressed by the interviewer: ‘However you may’t deny it?’ Mr Wolters responded: ‘I do not wish to deny it.’
Convicted rapist and paedophile Brueckner was named by German prosecutors as prime suspect within the case two years in the past with investigators saying that they had ‘concrete proof’ she was useless.
However since then there was little signal of him being charged, prompting hypothesis there may be not sufficient proof of his involvement in her disappearance and earlier this week it emerged Brueckner claims to have an alibi the night time she vanished.
He has insisted he was with an 18-year-old German girl, having intercourse in his camper van miles away from the place Madeleine vanished from and he has given full particulars to a US documentary.
When he was named in June 2020 police requested for data within the distinctive yellow and white T3 campervan and DNA specialists have been inspecting it ever since.
Mr Wolters added cryptically: ‘The investigation continues to be happening and we have now discovered some new details, some new proof, not forensic proof however proof.’
He then repeated his 2020 declare that Brueckner was chargeable for her homicide and stated: ‘We’re positive that he killed Madeleine McCann. I am unable to offer you any extra particulars for the second.’
In her report Sandra highlighted how the truth that Mr Wolters refused to disclaim that one thing of Madeleine’s had been discovered was proof of his guilt.
Mr Wolters additionally revealed how he had not been in contact with the McCanns and stated: ‘There isn’t a relationship between the McCanns and me. I’ve by no means spoken with them and I’ve by no means written to them. There isn’t a relationship.’
He additionally highlighted how the truth that Portuguese police had made Brueckner an ‘arguido’ or suspect within the case confirmed the German investigation was ‘going the suitable approach’.
Brueckner is at the moment serving seven years for the rape of a 72-year-old girl in Praia da Luz in 2005, two years earlier than Madeleine was snatched and he’s in Germany’s Oldenburg jail.
Prosecutors are investigating him over the rape of a Irish tour information Hazel Behan within the Algarve in addition to a sexual assault in Praia da Luz on a ten-year-old German woman a month earlier than Madeleine disappeared.
He’s additionally being probed over an indecent publicity in a youngsters’s playground within the Algarve and final month MailOnline revealed he was additionally being investigated over two additional rapes.
Madeleine McCann’s mother and father have joined buddies and properly wishers to recollect their daughter on the painful fifteenth anniversary of her disappearance – as a chief suspect faces being charged.
Kate and Gerry McCann had been warmly welcomed by their group throughout a poignant prayer service of their dwelling village of Rothley, Leicestershire.
The couple, who maintain on to hope that Madeleine – who would now be aged practically 19 – continues to be alive, appeared overwhelmed by the assist as they joined in prayers and readings to mark the event.
The annual out of doors occasion has been cancelled over the previous two years due to Covid restrictions.
Kate and Gerry stated tonight: ‘This yr we mark fifteen years since we final noticed Madeleine. It feels no tougher than another however no simpler both. It is a very very long time.’
Madeleine McCann’s mother and father, Kate and Gerry, mark the fifteenth anniversary of their daughter’s disappearance from Portugal at a vigil of their dwelling village of Rothley
In 2019 Kate turned up alone together with her twins Sean and Amelie – now aged 17 – as her coronary heart physician husband was away in Italy at an necessary medical convention.
Former surgical procedure GP turned hospital medical employee Kate, 54, had dashed from work to hitch Gerry on the struggle memorial for the welcomed occasion.
Kate, carrying black denims, cornflower blue V-neck sweater and trainers, fought again tears as youngsters lit candles for Madeleine and different misplaced kids.
Neither dad or mum addressed the 100-strong crowd however Kate, carrying studying glasses, learn a poem, saying: ‘Survival may be summed up three phrases: By no means quit.
‘That is the guts of it actually, simply preserve attempting.
Three-year-old Madeleine vanished from a vacation residence in Portugal’s Praia da Luz in Might 2007
‘Typically it’s a must to get knocked down, decrease than you will have ever been, to face up taller than you ever had been.
‘Perseverance is stubbornness.’
The McCanns joined household, buddies and villagers for an off-the-cuff night service after German rapist Christian Brueckner was lately made an official suspect over Madeleine’s abduction and presumed homicide.
That they had walked the close to mile, individually, from their dwelling.
A household supply stated: ‘Kate and Gerry get pleasure from going to the service for a time of prayer and quiet reflection. They at all times respect the assist of the general public.’
They met within the chilly night time air at Cross Inexperienced on the milestone anniversary – the place a candle for the world’s most well-known lacking youngster nonetheless burns across the clock.
Throughout the service, native youngsters went as much as gentle candles to recollect Madeleine, or a particular individual of their selection.
One little woman tripped and chanced on the bottom as she ran again to her mom, and a involved Kate joined others calling ‘Whoops!’ then smiled because the youngster picked herself up unscathed.
Famend and revered heart specialist Gerry, 53, casually wearing navy trousers, salmon-pink T-shirt and grey-blue sweater, later individually thanked properly wishers for attending the half-hour gathering.
Vicar of the native parish church, The Rev. Rob Gladstone, who led the prayers, opened the service by telling the gang: ‘As soon as once more after a spot of two years we’re capable of come collectively once more right here at Cross Inexperienced to recollect Madeleine, to point out solidarity to Kate and Gerry, Sean and Amelie.
The annual out of doors occasion has been cancelled over the previous two years due to Covid restrictions
‘Lord we thanks for sustaining Gerry and Kate via these painful years.
‘Hold us their hope of discovering Madeleine, of discovering the reality of her disappearance… actual hope is difficult gained.’
Throughout the gathering, touching messages of assist had been learn out by youngsters.
Iconic footage of a younger Madeleine had been tied to the railing across the struggle memorial and a vase of contemporary yellow flowers was positioned on the bottom.
The Madeleine candle burned brightly as Rev Gladstone stated: ‘We hope the sunshine right here in Rothley dispels the darkness.’
At instances Kate and Gerry appeared tearful, at different instances they smiled.
Kate, who gave the impression to be limping, was hugged by buddies and supporters.
45-year-old German nationwide Christian Brueckner was first named as a suspect in Madeleine’s disappearance by German Police in 2020 and is thought to be a convicted paedophile
Three-year-old Madeleine vanished from a vacation residence in Portugal’s Praia da Luz in Might 2007.
She was found lacking from her mattress within the seaside advanced by her horrified mum shortly after 10pm. She had been left alone her youthful siblings whereas her mother and father had been eating in a close-by tapas restaurant with their seven friends.
Madeleine’s nice uncle, retired head trainer Brian Kennedy, 83, who lives in the identical village and has attended all 13 anniversary gatherings together with his spouse Janet, stated: ‘Kate and Gerry really feel heartened that one thing constructive appears to be occurring with the investigation.
‘They’re being saved up to date by the Met Police however they don’t have any particulars to share now.
‘They’ve by no means misplaced hope even in spite of everything these years, and in juts over every week’s time Madeleine could be 19.
‘In the event you had informed our household 15 years it might go on for thus lengthy and not using a decision we might have thought that was impossible.’
He had earlier learn a poem ‘The Beacon’ beforehand written for Kate and Gerry by former Poet Laureate Simon Armitage.
Madeleine’s mother and father informed of their ‘want for solutions’ in a public posting on the eve of the most recent anniversary which they are saying is ‘a really very long time.’
In a heartfelt posting on Monday on the Discover Maddie and Official Marketing campaign web sites, the McCanns wrote: ‘Many individuals speak in regards to the want for ”closure”. It is at all times felt an odd time period.
‘No matter end result, Madeleine will at all times be our daughter and a really horrific crime has been dedicated. These items will stay.
Three-year-old Madeleine McCann vanished from the residence she slept in together with her two youthful siblings on Might 3, 2007, as her mother and father dined at a close-by tapas restaurant
‘It’s true although that uncertainty creates weak point; information and certainty give energy, and because of this our want for solutions, for the reality, is crucial.’
The couple praised three nations’ police forces for his or her continued work in attempting to crack the painstaking case.
They posted: ‘We’re grateful for the continuing work and dedication of the UK, Portuguese and German authorities as it’s this mixed police effort which can yield outcomes and convey us these solutions.’
They added: ‘As at all times, we want to thank all of our supporters for his or her continued good needs and assist.
‘It’s a large consolation to know that no matter time handed, Madeleine continues to be in folks’s hearts and minds. Thanks. Kate and Gerry.’
Their put up is accompanied by a touching phrase from Winnie the Pooh creator AA Milne, with an image of Pooh bear and Piglet, saying: ‘However a very powerful factor is, even when we’re aside, I will at all times be with you.’
Caged 44-year-old intercourse fiend Christian Brueckner was declared an official suspect by Portuguese police two weeks in the past.
Two years in the past he was sensationally named by German officers because the individual ‘accountable’ for Madeleine’s kidnap and feared homicide.
He was quizzed for the primary time final week at Oldenburg jail, the place he’s serving a sentence for rape, however is known to have used his proper to stay silent.
Brueckner might now be summoned to Portugal for questioning and even be charged.
https://colorsofindia.media/world/united-kingdom/fibres-from-madeleine-mccanns-pyjamas-were-found-in-prime-suspect-christian-brueckners-campervan/
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Something lost in translation methinks.
Another example of word mangling to fit the agenda and sensationalize an otherwise mundane press report.
If there be even a vestige of truth in this story of 'when Ms Felgueiras met Herr Wolters', I imagine Wolters thought bubble would be .... 'sod off you nosy old trout - do you really think I would reveal all to you?'



‘Fibres from Madeleine McCann’s pyjamas were found in prime suspect Christian Brueckner’s campervan’
May 4, 2022
German investigators have discovered ‘proof’ of lacking Madeleine McCann within the van of prime suspect Christian Brueckner it was sensationally claimed tonight – 15 years to the day Maddie disappeared in Portugal.
The proof in query is regarded as ‘telltale’ fibres from the three-year-old’s pyjamas.
Talking on Portuguese TV, prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters once more reiterated he believed the toddler was useless and insisted Brueckner, 45, was the person accountable.
Mr Wolters was interviewed on a present known as Sabado, in an hour lengthy programme to mark the fifteenth anniversary of Madeleine’s disappearance from her mother and father vacation residence at Praia da Luz on Portugal’s Algarve coast.
When requested by host Sandra Felgueiras whether or not it was ‘true that you’ve discovered one thing of Madeleine McCann in Christian Brueckner’s van’ in connection to the fibres, Mr Wolters replied: ‘I am not going to touch upon the small print of the investigation.’
However when pressed by the interviewer: ‘However you may’t deny it?’ Mr Wolters responded: ‘I do not wish to deny it.’
Convicted rapist and paedophile Brueckner was named by German prosecutors as prime suspect within the case two years in the past with investigators saying that they had ‘concrete proof’ she was useless.
However since then there was little signal of him being charged, prompting hypothesis there may be not sufficient proof of his involvement in her disappearance and earlier this week it emerged Brueckner claims to have an alibi the night time she vanished.
He has insisted he was with an 18-year-old German girl, having intercourse in his camper van miles away from the place Madeleine vanished from and he has given full particulars to a US documentary.
When he was named in June 2020 police requested for data within the distinctive yellow and white T3 campervan and DNA specialists have been inspecting it ever since.
Mr Wolters added cryptically: ‘The investigation continues to be happening and we have now discovered some new details, some new proof, not forensic proof however proof.’
He then repeated his 2020 declare that Brueckner was chargeable for her homicide and stated: ‘We’re positive that he killed Madeleine McCann. I am unable to offer you any extra particulars for the second.’
In her report Sandra highlighted how the truth that Mr Wolters refused to disclaim that one thing of Madeleine’s had been discovered was proof of his guilt.
Mr Wolters additionally revealed how he had not been in contact with the McCanns and stated: ‘There isn’t a relationship between the McCanns and me. I’ve by no means spoken with them and I’ve by no means written to them. There isn’t a relationship.’
He additionally highlighted how the truth that Portuguese police had made Brueckner an ‘arguido’ or suspect within the case confirmed the German investigation was ‘going the suitable approach’.
Brueckner is at the moment serving seven years for the rape of a 72-year-old girl in Praia da Luz in 2005, two years earlier than Madeleine was snatched and he’s in Germany’s Oldenburg jail.
Prosecutors are investigating him over the rape of a Irish tour information Hazel Behan within the Algarve in addition to a sexual assault in Praia da Luz on a ten-year-old German woman a month earlier than Madeleine disappeared.
He’s additionally being probed over an indecent publicity in a youngsters’s playground within the Algarve and final month MailOnline revealed he was additionally being investigated over two additional rapes.
Madeleine McCann’s mother and father have joined buddies and properly wishers to recollect their daughter on the painful fifteenth anniversary of her disappearance – as a chief suspect faces being charged.
Kate and Gerry McCann had been warmly welcomed by their group throughout a poignant prayer service of their dwelling village of Rothley, Leicestershire.
The couple, who maintain on to hope that Madeleine – who would now be aged practically 19 – continues to be alive, appeared overwhelmed by the assist as they joined in prayers and readings to mark the event.
The annual out of doors occasion has been cancelled over the previous two years due to Covid restrictions.
Kate and Gerry stated tonight: ‘This yr we mark fifteen years since we final noticed Madeleine. It feels no tougher than another however no simpler both. It is a very very long time.’
Madeleine McCann’s mother and father, Kate and Gerry, mark the fifteenth anniversary of their daughter’s disappearance from Portugal at a vigil of their dwelling village of Rothley
In 2019 Kate turned up alone together with her twins Sean and Amelie – now aged 17 – as her coronary heart physician husband was away in Italy at an necessary medical convention.
Former surgical procedure GP turned hospital medical employee Kate, 54, had dashed from work to hitch Gerry on the struggle memorial for the welcomed occasion.
Kate, carrying black denims, cornflower blue V-neck sweater and trainers, fought again tears as youngsters lit candles for Madeleine and different misplaced kids.
Neither dad or mum addressed the 100-strong crowd however Kate, carrying studying glasses, learn a poem, saying: ‘Survival may be summed up three phrases: By no means quit.
‘That is the guts of it actually, simply preserve attempting.
Three-year-old Madeleine vanished from a vacation residence in Portugal’s Praia da Luz in Might 2007
‘Typically it’s a must to get knocked down, decrease than you will have ever been, to face up taller than you ever had been.
‘Perseverance is stubbornness.’
The McCanns joined household, buddies and villagers for an off-the-cuff night service after German rapist Christian Brueckner was lately made an official suspect over Madeleine’s abduction and presumed homicide.
That they had walked the close to mile, individually, from their dwelling.
A household supply stated: ‘Kate and Gerry get pleasure from going to the service for a time of prayer and quiet reflection. They at all times respect the assist of the general public.’
They met within the chilly night time air at Cross Inexperienced on the milestone anniversary – the place a candle for the world’s most well-known lacking youngster nonetheless burns across the clock.
Throughout the service, native youngsters went as much as gentle candles to recollect Madeleine, or a particular individual of their selection.
One little woman tripped and chanced on the bottom as she ran again to her mom, and a involved Kate joined others calling ‘Whoops!’ then smiled because the youngster picked herself up unscathed.
Famend and revered heart specialist Gerry, 53, casually wearing navy trousers, salmon-pink T-shirt and grey-blue sweater, later individually thanked properly wishers for attending the half-hour gathering.
Vicar of the native parish church, The Rev. Rob Gladstone, who led the prayers, opened the service by telling the gang: ‘As soon as once more after a spot of two years we’re capable of come collectively once more right here at Cross Inexperienced to recollect Madeleine, to point out solidarity to Kate and Gerry, Sean and Amelie.
The annual out of doors occasion has been cancelled over the previous two years due to Covid restrictions
‘Lord we thanks for sustaining Gerry and Kate via these painful years.
‘Hold us their hope of discovering Madeleine, of discovering the reality of her disappearance… actual hope is difficult gained.’
Throughout the gathering, touching messages of assist had been learn out by youngsters.
Iconic footage of a younger Madeleine had been tied to the railing across the struggle memorial and a vase of contemporary yellow flowers was positioned on the bottom.
The Madeleine candle burned brightly as Rev Gladstone stated: ‘We hope the sunshine right here in Rothley dispels the darkness.’
At instances Kate and Gerry appeared tearful, at different instances they smiled.
Kate, who gave the impression to be limping, was hugged by buddies and supporters.
45-year-old German nationwide Christian Brueckner was first named as a suspect in Madeleine’s disappearance by German Police in 2020 and is thought to be a convicted paedophile
Three-year-old Madeleine vanished from a vacation residence in Portugal’s Praia da Luz in Might 2007.
She was found lacking from her mattress within the seaside advanced by her horrified mum shortly after 10pm. She had been left alone her youthful siblings whereas her mother and father had been eating in a close-by tapas restaurant with their seven friends.
Madeleine’s nice uncle, retired head trainer Brian Kennedy, 83, who lives in the identical village and has attended all 13 anniversary gatherings together with his spouse Janet, stated: ‘Kate and Gerry really feel heartened that one thing constructive appears to be occurring with the investigation.
‘They’re being saved up to date by the Met Police however they don’t have any particulars to share now.
‘They’ve by no means misplaced hope even in spite of everything these years, and in juts over every week’s time Madeleine could be 19.
‘In the event you had informed our household 15 years it might go on for thus lengthy and not using a decision we might have thought that was impossible.’
He had earlier learn a poem ‘The Beacon’ beforehand written for Kate and Gerry by former Poet Laureate Simon Armitage.
Madeleine’s mother and father informed of their ‘want for solutions’ in a public posting on the eve of the most recent anniversary which they are saying is ‘a really very long time.’
In a heartfelt posting on Monday on the Discover Maddie and Official Marketing campaign web sites, the McCanns wrote: ‘Many individuals speak in regards to the want for ”closure”. It is at all times felt an odd time period.
‘No matter end result, Madeleine will at all times be our daughter and a really horrific crime has been dedicated. These items will stay.
Three-year-old Madeleine McCann vanished from the residence she slept in together with her two youthful siblings on Might 3, 2007, as her mother and father dined at a close-by tapas restaurant
‘It’s true although that uncertainty creates weak point; information and certainty give energy, and because of this our want for solutions, for the reality, is crucial.’
The couple praised three nations’ police forces for his or her continued work in attempting to crack the painstaking case.
They posted: ‘We’re grateful for the continuing work and dedication of the UK, Portuguese and German authorities as it’s this mixed police effort which can yield outcomes and convey us these solutions.’
They added: ‘As at all times, we want to thank all of our supporters for his or her continued good needs and assist.
‘It’s a large consolation to know that no matter time handed, Madeleine continues to be in folks’s hearts and minds. Thanks. Kate and Gerry.’
Their put up is accompanied by a touching phrase from Winnie the Pooh creator AA Milne, with an image of Pooh bear and Piglet, saying: ‘However a very powerful factor is, even when we’re aside, I will at all times be with you.’
Caged 44-year-old intercourse fiend Christian Brueckner was declared an official suspect by Portuguese police two weeks in the past.
Two years in the past he was sensationally named by German officers because the individual ‘accountable’ for Madeleine’s kidnap and feared homicide.
He was quizzed for the primary time final week at Oldenburg jail, the place he’s serving a sentence for rape, however is known to have used his proper to stay silent.
Brueckner might now be summoned to Portugal for questioning and even be charged.
https://colorsofindia.media/world/united-kingdom/fibres-from-madeleine-mccanns-pyjamas-were-found-in-prime-suspect-christian-brueckners-campervan/
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Something lost in translation methinks.
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I can read and also copy and paste. !
[size=44]THE OLIVE PRESS: HOW THE WORLD’S MEDIA FOLLOWS UP ON OUR EXCLUSIVE STORIES[/size]
19 May, 2022 @ 19:00
IT was a full 12 hours before the world’s media caught up with our exclusive that police had found traces of missing toddler Madeleine McCann in Portugal.
Revealed by an Olive Press source, we ran it having checked first with the German prosecutor leading an investigation against prime suspect Christian Brueckner.
Not only the Mail, Sun and Mirror followed it up but over the next two days, international outfits including El Pais, the Telegraph and the New Zealand Herald took up the story.
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when we click on the Olive press source it goes to
[size=44]MADELEINE MCCANN SUSPECT CHRISTIAN BRUECKNER ‘HAD TRACES OF THE TODDLER IN HIS VAN’ CLAIMS PORTUGUESE INVESTIGATOR
Alibi claims for the night are ‘firmly knocked down’ by police and other sources
By
Jon Clarke (Publisher & Editor)
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3 May, 2022 @ 11:12[/size]
GERMAN police investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann have found traces of her in a vehicle driven by the prime suspect Christian Brueckner.
A Portuguese investigator will reveal tonight that it is one of many different clues that point the finger directly at the convicted sex offender.
Journalist Sandra Felgueiras will announce the discovery on prime time Portuguese television this evening.
“I am certain Brueckner did it and the Portuguese police know he worked with an accomplice,” she told the Olive Press today.
Her SABADO Investigation on the CMTV channel managed to establish that the main evidence is a ‘trace of the English girl found by German police inside the motorhome he drove in 2007’.
Prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters refused to confirm or deny this week that a DNA link had been discovered in the VW van.
But, he explained to Felgueiras – who has been investigating the case since May 2007 – that he could not confirm it ‘because the suspect has not yet been informed’.
Brueckner’s VW motorhome
The infamous yellow and white van was part of the original appeal put out in a bombshell German police appeal in June 2020.
It was photographed parked alongside Barranco beach, near Praia da Luz, where three-year-old Maddie went missing while on holiday on May 3, exactly 15 years ago.
The van, which Brueckner had borrowed from a German mechanic friend, had been taken on ‘a potential dummy run’ along the Costa del Sol to Almeria from Portugal just weeks before Maddie went missing.
However, he may have also been driving a large Winnebago – the first of two – that he acquired around the time. And he was also driving a dark Jaguar.
It’s not clear at this stage exactly what traces of Maddie were found in which vehicle.
Neither Wolters or Sandra would be drawn further on it, today.
The DNA link is ‘just one of several revelations’ set to be presented by Felgueiras’ show, recorded in Germany this week.
“It was him. He is guilty,” Felguieras added today. “The key point is that Wolters doesn’t deny it.”
She added: “The crime was for money and I think Russians were involved.”
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Adding money and Russians and the VW van into the mix
[size=44]THE OLIVE PRESS: HOW THE WORLD’S MEDIA FOLLOWS UP ON OUR EXCLUSIVE STORIES[/size]
19 May, 2022 @ 19:00
IT was a full 12 hours before the world’s media caught up with our exclusive that police had found traces of missing toddler Madeleine McCann in Portugal.
Revealed by an Olive Press source, we ran it having checked first with the German prosecutor leading an investigation against prime suspect Christian Brueckner.
Not only the Mail, Sun and Mirror followed it up but over the next two days, international outfits including El Pais, the Telegraph and the New Zealand Herald took up the story.
***
when we click on the Olive press source it goes to
[size=44]MADELEINE MCCANN SUSPECT CHRISTIAN BRUECKNER ‘HAD TRACES OF THE TODDLER IN HIS VAN’ CLAIMS PORTUGUESE INVESTIGATOR
Alibi claims for the night are ‘firmly knocked down’ by police and other sources
By
Jon Clarke (Publisher & Editor)
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3 May, 2022 @ 11:12[/size]
GERMAN police investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann have found traces of her in a vehicle driven by the prime suspect Christian Brueckner.
A Portuguese investigator will reveal tonight that it is one of many different clues that point the finger directly at the convicted sex offender.
Journalist Sandra Felgueiras will announce the discovery on prime time Portuguese television this evening.
“I am certain Brueckner did it and the Portuguese police know he worked with an accomplice,” she told the Olive Press today.
Her SABADO Investigation on the CMTV channel managed to establish that the main evidence is a ‘trace of the English girl found by German police inside the motorhome he drove in 2007’.
Prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters refused to confirm or deny this week that a DNA link had been discovered in the VW van.
But, he explained to Felgueiras – who has been investigating the case since May 2007 – that he could not confirm it ‘because the suspect has not yet been informed’.

The infamous yellow and white van was part of the original appeal put out in a bombshell German police appeal in June 2020.
It was photographed parked alongside Barranco beach, near Praia da Luz, where three-year-old Maddie went missing while on holiday on May 3, exactly 15 years ago.
The van, which Brueckner had borrowed from a German mechanic friend, had been taken on ‘a potential dummy run’ along the Costa del Sol to Almeria from Portugal just weeks before Maddie went missing.
However, he may have also been driving a large Winnebago – the first of two – that he acquired around the time. And he was also driving a dark Jaguar.
It’s not clear at this stage exactly what traces of Maddie were found in which vehicle.
Neither Wolters or Sandra would be drawn further on it, today.
The DNA link is ‘just one of several revelations’ set to be presented by Felgueiras’ show, recorded in Germany this week.
“It was him. He is guilty,” Felguieras added today. “The key point is that Wolters doesn’t deny it.”
She added: “The crime was for money and I think Russians were involved.”
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Adding money and Russians and the VW van into the mix
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The Sabado gave a report on 02 May informing people that they should watch the Sandra and Hans show the next day.
This appears to be the ‘earliest’ report (Translation by Google)
https://www-sabado-pt.translate.goog/portugal/detalhe/especial-investigacao-sabado-a-entrevista-exclusiva-ao-procurador-do-caso-maddie?_x_tr_sl=pt&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
This appears to be the ‘earliest’ report (Translation by Google)
https://www-sabado-pt.translate.goog/portugal/detalhe/especial-investigacao-sabado-a-entrevista-exclusiva-ao-procurador-do-caso-maddie?_x_tr_sl=pt&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
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Robert Murat said the £million reward may have the opposite effect of creating more abductions in Portugal in the future, namely carried out by Russians and Rumanians, and the Russians are particularly cold when it comes to questions of money.
So Murat said it first.
So Murat said it first.
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Jon Clarke has long history of saying he was the first –
– on the scene
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– with the story
– to reveal XYZ
– on the scene
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– with the story
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Re: Olive Press: The Man the Money the Mischief
JC, for it is he, appears to have some sort of relationship with Sandra Felgueiras, whether that be a love/hate relationship, a friendship or competitive 'investigative' journalism I wouldn't know but it's hardly surprising considering their working relationship - in particular the Netflix Madeleine McCann mockuplenty and subsequent ventures.
I copied (or scanned) over passages about Ms Felgueiras from JC's 'best seller' here on CMOMM but can't locate at the moment, I'll have another look in due course
I'm still wondering how the former Metodo3 employee Julian Peribañez fits in with the grand scheme of things - he who made his film career debut also in the Netflix production.
That's Metodo3, the Private Investigation company hired by team McCann to pervert the course of justice lead 'the search' for Madeleine.
I would be very interested to know the relationship between JC and Julian Peribañez and Sandra Felgueiras.
I copied (or scanned) over passages about Ms Felgueiras from JC's 'best seller' here on CMOMM but can't locate at the moment, I'll have another look in due course
I'm still wondering how the former Metodo3 employee Julian Peribañez fits in with the grand scheme of things - he who made his film career debut also in the Netflix production.
That's Metodo3, the Private Investigation company hired by team McCann to
I would be very interested to know the relationship between JC and Julian Peribañez and Sandra Felgueiras.

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Francisco Marco from Metodo 3 reminds me of Tannerman.
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