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Post by JimbobJones 14.05.21 15:13

Even if it were true . . . . 4?  . . . as in 1,2,3,4?  . . . . Four?  . . . . FOUR?




21 people die every week from FALLING DOWN THE STAIRS.

FFS.

Total chicanery. An explosion of dishonesty. 

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Post by Silverspeed 14.05.21 15:28

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21 people die every week from FALLING DOWN THE STAIRS.

FFS.
Not if they have had a positive test recently lol.
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Post by BlueBag 14.05.21 15:34

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Even if it were true . . . . 4?  . . . as in 1,2,3,4?  . . . . Four?  . . . . FOUR?




21 people die every week from FALLING DOWN THE STAIRS.

FFS.

Total chicanery. An explosion of dishonesty. 

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4... according to a PCR or Lateral Flow test.

So less than 4.... probably none.
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Post by sequested 14.05.21 16:20

Surely brought back by those rushing to beat the deadline following the decision to prohibit those from India entering the UK.
India added to Red List on 23 April so explain how the quarantine/border controls work again ??
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Post by sequested 14.05.21 16:21

God forbid the recent Indian delegation bought it in !
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Post by BlueBag 14.05.21 16:54

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Surely brought back by those rushing to beat the deadline following the decision to prohibit those from India entering the UK.
India added to Red List on 23 April so explain how the quarantine/border controls work again ??
How can you bring back a fake?
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Post by sequested 14.05.21 16:57

How can you shut a country down for a fake ? But they do, with ease. And they will continue to.
They have a compliant majority which makes it easier to implement with too much of a push-back.
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Post by BlueBag 14.05.21 17:13

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:How can you shut a country down for a fake ? But they do, with ease. And they will continue to.
They have a compliant majority which makes it easier to implement with too much of a push-back.
I have to say I am deeply disappointed with the vast majority of my fellow human beings.

"If you trust Government you don't know history" - Luke Rudowski.
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Post by sequested 14.05.21 17:17

Previous message should have read “WITHOUT too much push-back”
I agree BB, most continue to be wear the mark of collaboration.
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Post by Verdi 14.05.21 17:25

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Post by Verdi 14.05.21 17:33

I had a good look around when out and about yesterday.  It was seething with bodies ranging from very junior to very senior.

A rough estimate, I would say about two thirds were not wearing a mask, nor had a mask to hand.  The remainder, only a few had the mask covering nose and mouth - more a chin strap or dangly earring.

As for the global number of injections reported to have been administered, I can't comment.  I very much doubt it's a resounding success as reported by the ever unreliable media.

Anything and everything reported is what they want you to hear, it has no bearing on reality.  In days of yore the generic term would be brainwashing!

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Post by Verdi 15.05.21 2:42



In the name of all that's sacred - someone kick this stooge off the stage. I's an embarrassment.

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Post by BlueBag 15.05.21 5:28

India variant somehow spreads faster. according to the BBC... BS.
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Post by sequested 15.05.21 8:18

And it’s no more deadly so.......nothing to see here.
BTW, my 24 yr old daughter got “the call” from our local surgery yesterday. Seriously ? 24 yr olds ? She’s unsure what to do.
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Post by PeterMac 15.05.21 12:20

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Use of fear to control behaviour in Covid crisis was ‘totalitarian’, admit scientists

Members of Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group on Behaviour express regret about ‘unethical’ methods

ByGordon Rayner, ASSOCIATE EDITOR14 May 2021 • 9:00pm

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One scientist said the Government ‘was very worried about compliance and they thought people wouldn’t want to be locked down’ CREDIT:  Chris Jackson/Getty Images


Scientists on a committee that encouraged the use of fear to control people’s behaviour during the Covid pandemic have admitted its work was “unethical” and “totalitarian”.
Members of the Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group on Behaviour (SPI-B) expressed regret about the tactics in a new book about the role of psychology in the Government’s Covid-19 response.
SPI-B warned in March last year that ministers needed to increase “the perceived level of personal threat” from Covid-19 because “a substantial number of people still do not feel sufficiently personally threatened”.
Gavin Morgan, a psychologist on the team, said: “Clearly, using fear as a means of control is not ethical. Using fear smacks of totalitarianism. It’s not an ethical stance for any modern government. By nature I am an optimistic person, but all this has given me a more pessimistic view of people.”
Mr Morgan spoke to author Laura Dodsworth, who has spent a year investigating the Government’s tactics for her book A State of Fear, published on Monday.
Ministers have faced repeated accusations that they ramped up the threat from the pandemic to justify lockdowns and coerce the public into abiding by them – a claim that will be examined by the forthcoming public inquiry into the pandemic response.

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Ministers have been accused of ramping up the threat from the pandemic to justify lockdowns CREDIT: Andrew Matthews/PA
SPI-B is one of the sub-committees that advises the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage), led by Sir Patrick Vallance, the chief scientific adviser.
One SPI-B scientist told Ms Dodsworth: “In March [2020] the Government was very worried about compliance and they thought people wouldn’t want to be locked down. There were discussions about fear being needed to encourage compliance, and decisions were made about how to ramp up the fear. The way we have used fear is dystopian.
“The use of fear has definitely been ethically questionable. It’s been like a weird experiment. Ultimately, it backfired because people became too scared.”
Another SPI-B member said: “You could call psychology ‘mind control’. That’s what we do… clearly we try and go about it in a positive way, but it has been used nefariously in the past.”
One warned that “people use the pandemic to grab power and drive through things that wouldn’t happen otherwise… We have to be very careful about the authoritarianism that is creeping in”.
Another said: “Without a vaccine, psychology is your main weapon… Psychology has had a really good epidemic, actually.”
As well as overt warnings about the danger of the virus, the Government has been accused of feeding the public a non-stop diet of bad news, such as deaths and hospitalisations, without ever putting the figures in context with news of how many people have recovered, or whether daily death tolls are above or below seasonal averages.
Another member of SPI-B said they were "stunned by the weaponisation of behavioural psychology" during the pandemic, and that “psychologists didn’t seem to notice when it stopped being altruistic and became manipulative. They have too much power and it intoxicates them”.
Steve Baker, the deputy chairman of the Covid Recovery Group of Tory MPs, said: “If it is true that the state took the decision to terrify the public to get compliance with rules, that raises extremely serious questions about the type of society we want to become.
“If we’re being really honest, do I fear that Government policy today is playing into the roots of totalitarianism? Yes, of course it is.”
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Post by sequested 15.05.21 13:06

I’m afraid their seeming remorse has come too late for me. They knew EXACTLY what they were doing and its intended purpose.
They are entirely culpable for their actions.
I’ve long suspected that, as the experienced voices of true reason start to get louder, the damage limitation will begin.
They won’t want to appear at Nuremberg 2
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Post by Tony Bennett 15.05.21 13:10

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:India variant somehow spreads faster. according to the BBC... BS.

BBC Report today (15 May)



Some scientists say there is a realistic possibility that the new variant could spread 50% faster, which is a lot.

REPLY: How many scientists. Which ones? They are unnamed. Possibly...could

There are some higher estimates of 60% coming out of India, but these are based on published genetic sequences from viral samples and its not clear how representative of the overall picture they are.

REPLY: Some...estimates...not clear

Sage estimates the problems would really start with a variant that was 40% more transmissible as it "would lead to a substantial resurgence of hospitalisations" and put pressure on the NHS.

REPLY: On BBC Radio 4 this morning a scientist was asked how many hospitalisations there have been so far in these latest 'outbreaks. Answer: NONE  

The new variant is being transmitted faster among young people.

REPLY:  The chances of a younger person getting anything more than very mild symptoms from Covid19 is infinitesimally small, unless they have significant pre-existing conditions. 


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Post by Jill Havern 15.05.21 13:35

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Post by Silentscope 15.05.21 13:50



Sky seems not to agree with the BBC, it all appears HOW the Data is displayed on the Graph, as to which results are chosen to be broadcast.

Is India perhaps 60% more densely populated or overcrowded in towns than the U.K.?
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Post by Tony Bennett 15.05.21 14:01

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Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by Jill Havern 15.05.21 14:25

Just posted that ^^^ on farcebook to see how long it takes for me to be banned again.

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Post by Verdi 15.05.21 14:39

A monster was created by a global pandemic exercise - it's gone way out of control mainly because the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing.  Evidenced by Boris Johnson's shambolic response alone, aided and abetted by mainstream and social media whose sole purpose in life is to generate fear in any way they can., which the reader greedily devours with relish and thus further propagates.

I prefer to judge situations by my own experiences of life, as opposed to rushing to history books and media archives to guide me.  You only need look at the case of missing Madeleine McCann to realise how information is distorted and reinvented as it passes from one source to another, invariably emphasizing the salacious gossipy side of every story.

So, in my life-time so far, I see clearly how we, the people, live from one day to the next by rules and regulations, not specifically laws I hasten to add but by enforced codes of practice on all levels of societal framework.  I don't believe this signifies a long term sinistre plan but more a case of collecting baggage along the way, so to speak.

Think of the government.  There is this thing called the House of Commons, with departments to administer every government controlled public secteur - health, education, transport, militia blah blah blah.  Along comes a hiccup to potentially destabilize the self manufactured rulers of our land so a new department is established to regularize the threat and hopefully ensure there is no repetition.  This form of government continues to grow over the years until it becomes a massive uncontrollable circumlocution of interlocking departments and sub-departments, all of which have to be staffed and managed.  All public secteur departments have grown in much the same way over the years.

It is how the world develops, be it right or wrong, particularly if there is money to be made you will find everyone jumping on the bandwagon for a piece of the action.  The spectrum is too broad to go into further detail as it encompasses every aspect of life.  A very simple illustration .... in the 1960's, if you had a cold you would moan and groan and get on with it.  As the years pass the common cold is elevated to a potentially life threatening snivvel and you are strongly encouraged to rush to the doctor (or A&E if you turn blue) and isolate yourself from fellow man.  Monitor your symptoms closely - this common ailment could be a sign of an underlying serious condition.  Ever read the small print?

You must have a licence to drive.  You must have a passport to travel, some regulations also require visa.  You must pay national insurance.  You must pay taxes.  You must pay to park the car.  You mustn't spit on the pavement.  You mustn't take illicit drugs but you must allow doctors to dose you up to the eyeballs with licit drugs.  You must have a licence to own a dog.  You must have a licence to watch television.  Your children must attend school.  You must dress up in uniform and go to war.  You must go to work, so on and so forth.

I believe, although vaguely aware of how our lives are already controlled by rules and regulations, this pandemic has heightened that awareness, resulting in a hysterical reaction to a catastrophic global exercise.  People, understandably, are looking for reasons why and when you look hard enough, you can always find something to reinforce your niggling doubts about humanity - it's not difficult, there's enough bad out there to last anybody's life time.

The media in all it's guises has a hell of a lot to answer for.

In short, there are far easier ways of effecting global control over the population.  Just drop a bomb and wipe out civilsation - better still and more efficacious, drop a biological bomb of your making depending on the desired result.

Press of a button and bang it's all over.

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Post by sequested 15.05.21 14:51

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That course of action, whilst indeed obtaining a result, would clearly result in simple blame and all that entails.
With the deadly, unknown, silent, ever-changing virus, a very effective weapon has been used.
“It’s new”, “we don’t know what to do”, “we need to be driven by the science”, we need to be guided by the data”, we need to test the healthy to see if they’re sick”, the asymptomatic are the super-spreaders”, “we know best, you need to do what we tell you”, the healthy must stay indoors, but we’ll herd all the old vulnerable useless-eaters together and remove their medication”

Bomb or virus, they’re all murdering scumbags. Doing what you’re told is not an excuse.
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Post by Verdi 15.05.21 15:00

Once mission accomplished, I don't think it would matter too much who takes the blame.

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