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Post by Verdi 17.04.21 14:13


Here’s How Many People Actually Die From the Flu Each Year, According to Doctors


Flu activity “remains lower than usual” for the 2020-2021 season, according to the CDC  [Centres for Disease Control and Prevention]

By Korin Miller
Mar 12, 2021

   The flu has almost entirely disappeared this winter, with just over 1,500 cases reported in the U.S. since late September.

   Flu season, which runs from October through May, usually results in millions of infections and thousands of deaths.

   Doctors explain how COVID-19 prevention efforts have diminished flu-related deaths this year.

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Geeeezus, talk about showing your hand.

Seasonal flu hasn't disappeared, it's been renamed COVID-19 or more recently SARS-CoV-2

If COVID-19 preventative measures have successfully diminished flu related transmission and death, why then has it not had any effect on COVID-19?

What a tangled web they weave when first they practice to deceive  yes .

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Post by sequested 17.04.21 16:34

SARS-CoV-2 is the virus, Covid-19 the disease caused by it.
If you wish to believe in the WHO definition.
Seasonal flu by another name.
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Post by AnneBarnard 18.04.21 9:18

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Just about within 28 days. Even a negative and they might list as "covid19" despite the more obvious cause.

As another example of deception: 
Some of you may know I live in Scotia. Well on the first sunny day, about a month ago wifey and I decided we must visit the seaside urgently.
As we do not watch current affairs on the mindrape machine it had totally slipped my mind that we "were not allowed". We were still in the middle of "house arrest", supposed to stay local and scotlands borders were closed.
 I am not kidding, despite all the overbearing oppression, and posting on here about it, I had forgotten that we were not allowed to go to the seaside.

We crossed the border at Coldstream, did about 120 miles, had a lovely day out at Berwick on tweed. Took some fantastic long distance photos of Lindisfarne and Bamburgh castle from the mole (about 15 miles!) and came home again.

My point being The powers that be MANIPULATE us into oppressing OURSELVES. Apparently Scotlands borders were shut, but only if you choose to believe it. It had totally slipped my mind until I mentioned it to a neighbour.

You can still live your life if you want to, just dont listen to them.

Have I said all that before . . . ?
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Sounds like you had a lovely day out.

Incidentally, the weather was beautiful in Northumberland yesterday biggergrin

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Post by BlueBag 19.04.21 15:54

My 30 year son was offered the vaccine last Saturday by his GP and he had it.

Yesterday he was unwell with a high temperature.

Today he is waiting to be seen at the Hospital.

Difficultly breathing.

I am distraught!!!!!!!!
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Post by Liz Eagles 19.04.21 16:00

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:My 30 year son was offered the vaccine last Saturday by his GP and he had it.

Yesterday he was unwell with a high temperature.

Today he is waiting to be seen at the Hospital.

Difficultly breathing.

I am distraught!!!!!!!!
I am so sorry. You and your family have really been through the mill.
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Post by Jill Havern 19.04.21 16:13

Oh my god Blue Bag, not again  sad

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Post by sar 19.04.21 16:40

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Yesterday he was unwell with a high temperature.

Today he is waiting to be seen at the Hospital.

Difficultly breathing.

I am distraught!!!!!!!!
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I hope he gets better soon.

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Post by Verdi 19.04.21 17:03

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:My 30 year son was offered the vaccine last Saturday by his GP and he had it.

Yesterday he was unwell with a high temperature.

Today he is waiting to be seen at the Hospital.

Difficultly breathing.

I am distraught!!!!!!!!

The current age group for vaccinations is the forty to fifty year old bracket - so say the experts and media.

Was your son singled out for some reason, was there a reason he was considered a priority case?

I don't understand the UKs vaccination programme.

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Post by sequested 19.04.21 17:25

I don’t understand people’s decision to poison themselves
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Post by BlueBag 19.04.21 20:09

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:My 30 year son was offered the vaccine last Saturday by his GP and he had it.

Yesterday he was unwell with a high temperature.

Today he is waiting to be seen at the Hospital.

Difficultly breathing.

I am distraught!!!!!!!!

The current age group for vaccinations is the forty to fifty year old bracket  - so say the experts and media.

Was your son singled out for some reason, was there a reason he was considered a priority case?

I don't understand the UKs vaccination programme.
He's in a posh area of London and his GP offered it.

I have no idea why but I was surprised - he told us after it happened.

He's currently being tested for blood clots.
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Post by sequested 19.04.21 20:14

The faceless GPs you mean ? The ones who won’t do face-to-face consultations ? Like mine, who when I asked for a follow up discussion about an anomaly on a recent ultrasound, offered me a PM call 2 weeks later and then rang me at 6.20pm !!
I’m sorry to hear about your boy, BlueBag.
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Post by crusader 19.04.21 20:46

I hope your son is ok BlueBag. Best wishes.
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Post by Verdi 20.04.21 2:25

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:My 30 year son was offered the vaccine last Saturday by his GP and he had it.

Yesterday he was unwell with a high temperature.

Today he is waiting to be seen at the Hospital.

Difficultly breathing.

I am distraught!!!!!!!!

The current age group for vaccinations is the forty to fifty year old bracket  - so say the experts and media.

Was your son singled out for some reason, was there a reason he was considered a priority case?

I don't understand the UKs vaccination programme.
He's in a posh area of London and his GP offered it.

I have no idea why but I was surprised - he told us after it happened.

He's currently being tested for blood clots.

Ah, so you're in for a tough week sad .

Take solace for what it's worth - we've all been there one way or another, it's life.

Although you might not agree, you must respect your son's decision, frankly I don't either but he is a grown man so deserves respect whatever he chooses.

Stay strong, I wish you well.

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Post by BlueBag 20.04.21 10:15

Well he spent half a day in hospital, blood tested and no clots.
Was sent home and told to rest.
"Side effects".

He's quite fit. I would imagine this would be devastating and deadly for people with underlying health conditions.
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Post by Jill Havern 20.04.21 10:39

Thank goodness he's ok  singlerose

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Post by Tony Bennett 20.04.21 11:05

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Post by Silentscope 20.04.21 11:10

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I wish your Son a speedy recovery, Fate has a lot to answer for lately it seems...

Keep well!
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Post by Liz Eagles 20.04.21 11:14

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Well he spent half a day in hospital, blood tested and no clots.
Was sent home and told to rest.
"Side effects".

He's quite fit. I would imagine this would be devastating and deadly for people with underlying health conditions.
You are worried about the side effects of a vaccination with which you disagree.

Most vaccines in my experience cause some discomfort/reaction - typhoid was a real bastard for me. 

Whatever your worries are BB, your son has taken the decision to be vaccinated and to my simple mind has done the right thing.

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Post by Jill Havern 20.04.21 11:20

You can hardly blame Blue Bag for being worried sick, given what happened to his mum and mother in law.

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Post by Liz Eagles 20.04.21 11:43

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:You can hardly blame Blue Bag for being worried sick, given what happened to his mum and mother in law.
Absolutely. I completely understand BB's stance.

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Post by Jill Havern 20.04.21 12:55

India's health system is collapsing as Covid-19 spreads faster than ever, gravediggers burn piles of victims to keep up and crematorium furnaces MELT due to round-the-clock use

India's health system is collapsing under the fastest spreading coronavirus surge since the pandemic started.
Another 259,170 cases were recorded on Tuesday, the world's highest daily rate, and 1,761 deaths, the country's highest ever daily toll, after a new variant of Covid emerged which scientists fear could partly evade vaccines. 
The British government added the country to its 'red list' on Monday but was accused of acting weeks too late as more than 100 people in the UK have now tested positive for this Indian variant since the end of March, while some 900 people have been arriving on flights from India every day. 
Delhi imposed a week-long lockdown last night as ambulances catapulted from one hospital to another, trying to find an empty bed.
The city of 29 million people has fewer than 100 beds with ventilators, and fewer than 150 beds available for patients needing critical care.
In the western state of Gujarat, many crematoria in Surat, Rajkot, Jamnagar and Ahmedabad are operating around the clock with three to four times more bodies than normal.
The chimney of one electric furnace in Ahmedabad cracked and collapsed after being in constant use for up to 20 hours every day for the past two weeks.
The iron frames inside another in the industrial diamond hub of Surat melted because there was no time to let the furnaces cool.
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Post by Jill Havern 20.04.21 13:41

The cost to YOU of Boris's green dream: To meet 80pc reduction on carbon emissions by 2035 we'll have to spend £10,000 upgrading our homes, drink three TEASPOONS of milk a day, eat meat just twice a week and barely fly once a year



House arrest, vaccinations, health passports...then rationed.

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Post by Verdi 20.04.21 13:44

What a load of old friars balsam ^^^ angry .

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I visited ye olde curiosity shoppe yesterday for a browse.  There was the owner - unmasked, his friend - unmasked, his son - unmasked, his grandson perched on the counter - unmasked and blowing raspberries at me - unmasked.

Happy days!

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The cost to YOU of Boris's green dream: To meet 80pc reduction on carbon emissions by 2035 we'll have to spend £10,000 upgrading our homes, drink three TEASPOONS of milk a day, eat meat just twice a week and barely fly once a year



House arrest, vaccinations, health passports...then rationed.

Correction .... it is they who will have to spend £10,000 upgrading every residence in the land.

Remember the motto .... 'you will own nothing but you will be happy'

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Post by sequested 20.04.21 14:06

The vaccination trials are really bearing fruit in India - poor helpless souls
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