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Post by Verdi 11.02.21 15:06

Trump impeachment: Graphic video shown as ex-president called 'inciter in chief'

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Senators at Donald Trump's second impeachment trial have been shown new dramatic and graphic video of the day his supporters stormed the US Congress.



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The severity of the rioting is not the issue here - or at least it shouldn't be.  The only charge against Mr Trump is that he incited insurrection - yes or no!  For it to hold water, there has to be conclusive evidence, so far I've seen no such evidence, it's all down to semantics.

Mr Trump can't, or shouldn't, be held responsible for the actions of a riotous mob.

It's a witch hunt and I have a sneaky feeling the Democrats are going to pull it off - they hold the trump card.  So much for democracy.


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Post by BlueBag 11.02.21 15:15

People who have been deliberately let in by the Police and then milling about (most of them) doesn't strike me as dangerous rioters.

The official narrative has as much credibility as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's overblown story of surviving the riot (she wasn't even in the building).
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Post by CaKeLoveR 11.02.21 15:57

Where's Trump's incitement, though?
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Post by Jill Havern 11.02.21 16:09

And why has this even been brought to trial when the investigation is still ongoing? 

This riot mob was antifa/BLM not Trump supporters.

The Dems are rushing this through before the investigation has concluded.


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It's like prosecuting the McCanns before a patsy has been found.  titter

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Post by crusader 11.02.21 16:42

I would have been absolutely terrified if I had been in the building.


Destruction of property and mob rule is against everthing I believe in.

Is Trump to blame? No way.


Trump has become one of those names, like Nigel Farage, where the mere mention of their names provokes a reaction.

It doesen't matter what they say or do, the powers that be will discredit them in any way they can.
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Post by Jill Havern 11.02.21 17:32

I find it incredible that out of the millions of tweets on twitter and the millions of people that attended Trump rallies and the thousands of people at Capitol Hill, that the Dems have been able to find the most 'relevant' tweets, soundbites, iphone clips, interviews etc to produce in court in such a short space of time....and before the investigation has been completed.

Good work Dems. It's almost like it was all ready to go...

Now bring on Trump's defence and stop fannying around.

Although, if the defence team is anything like it was on Day One, I think they might aswell put Trump in jail today cos they were pathetic.

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Dark and dangerous times...

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Post by Verdi 12.02.21 0:07

The controversy about Winston Churchill has been doing the circuit for years, probably since he was last Prime Minister.

As can be seen by Donald Trump's impeachment dilemma, history can so easily be distorted to suit a particular agenda.

Whatever is said to discredit a great historical figure can be countered by historical fact, rather than baseless accusations.  Winston Churchill proved himself to be probably the finest leader that ever lived - if it be claimed with some semblance of evidence that he was a racist, or some other derogatory term I'm in no doubt he had good reason at the time.

For many decades left wing extremists have been at the forefront of the UK's educational institutions, left wing propaganda has been spread through education - even institutions considered to be above bog basic standards, like colleges and universities. If anything, they are the worst hit.

Without looking deeper, the lowering of the standard of education is an indication of left wing influence throughout.  Providing you've got five digits on each hand as a basic abacus, you're allowed through the doors of higher education.  You come out the other end with a worthless piece of paper and end up staking shelves at Tesco.

Nigel Farage should cool his heels and stick to more important issues, rather than sensationalizing about age old trivia.

The 10 greatest controversies of Winston Churchill's career

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Post by Verdi 12.02.21 0:31

'Convict Trump or it could happen again,' trial told

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Anyone with half an ounce of savvy can see this to be a monumental stitch-up!

I believe the whole affair was staged from beginning to end.  Donald Trump was a thorn in the USA political side - what better time for a full blown attack than an election?

On the surface I'm sorry but if there be even a hint of evidence that Mr Trump was behind the incident, any remnant of faith in human nature is gone forever.

Keep looking over your shoulder ....

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Post by Verdi 12.02.21 1:06

This is what it's all about, in my view, the source behind the rumoured Great World Reset.  Quite where the current plandemic fits in, at this stage I can't fathom but I remain convinced that the concept of the UN 2030 agenda is not about global genocide but more changes to benefit all.

At present I can see the only victors to be technology, global health conglomerates, import/export and banking.  That is nothing new, it just takes centre stage in the current climate.

Seriously, pushing aside the world's madwo/men minority, I think we are all here to look out for each other.  What better way forward to sustainability than the reforms highlighted by the UN?  Changes to benefit mankind have been subtly introduced over decades and centuries so the present situation is nothing new, the only difference being that technology has progressed so rapidly, it's hit the world headlong like a bolt of lightening. In term this has led to wild conspiracy theories propagated by mainstream and social media.

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Post by Jill Havern 12.02.21 8:36




Exposure of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, their so-called philanthropy in India and Africa in the form of mass-vaccinations, one of the most favorite tools of the Cabal to roll out the Protocols of Zion and Agenda 21 and 2030.

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That's the window dressing.

If they have to stop free speech and democracy to do it then "benefit all" is out the window.

And it will only benefit the elite ultimately as we just exist at their behest and serve them.

Where the plandemic fits in?

To "Build Back Better" you need to build back from something broken/destroyed - look around... it's a train wreck.

Boris has set up the "Build Back Better Council" recently:

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Pure unadulterated Davos.
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Post by Silentscope 12.02.21 16:54



Stopping free speech? Guess who is speaking too freely apparently...
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Post by Jill Havern 12.02.21 17:37



Trump's defence is live now, you'll need to rewind if you want to watch the whole thing.

Or click here:  https://youtu.be/BrTUGVlz1i8

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Post by Jill Havern 12.02.21 18:10

Bluddy 'eck, this ^^^ is AMAZING!!!!!!  Mrs

Considering Trump's lawyers only had a short time to compile this  clapping

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Post by Silentscope 12.02.21 18:24

Hopefully he will be the next ‘Teflon Don’ - and nothing will stick?
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Post by Jill Havern 12.02.21 19:02



Trump’s Lawyer EXPOSES Dems For Playing Manipulated Video of Capitol Riot

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Post by Jill Havern 12.02.21 20:31

Well, that ^^^ certainly shamed all those nasty Dem's and Rino's!

The media and big tech should also be ashamed.

This should never have gone to trial so soon - the investigation into the riots hasn't even been concluded.  There needs to be proof that it was Soro's Antifa/BLM, the same mob that rioted all summer.

I'd hoped the Trump lawyers were going to present the election fraud evidence - after all, that's why Trump supporters were going to Congress in the first place.

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Post by PeterMac 12.02.21 22:15

This should never have gone to trial so soon - the investigation into the riots hasn't even been concluded.



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Post by AnneBarnard 13.02.21 12:11

I must admit I've been avoiding watching/reading anything about the impeachment trial because it would be too stressful, but having watched that video above ^^ from Ttump's lawyer I want to be optimistic...

... but will it be enough?

It should be shocking, but I can bet none of the media are bothering to report what he's said.

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Post by Jill Havern 13.02.21 14:06

Day 5 of Impeachment Trial from the mainstream media point of view


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Post by Jill Havern 13.02.21 15:04



Sensible channel live now.

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Post by Silentscope 13.02.21 17:44

It appears as though that riot was instigated by more than 200 Antifa backers, according to the brother of one of them — John Sullivan, a veteran rioter who was already facing charges for engaging in violence during a Salt Lake City protest last summer.
Sullivan, you may know, was the man who took video of Air Force veteran Ashli Babbitt being shot by a plainclothes officer near the House chamber as she appeared to breach a door to the Speaker’s Lobby, one of the Capitol Building’s most sensitive areas.
But it turns out he wasn’t just a documentarian; he was allegedly partaking in the riot, and he’s since been arrested on those charges.
Now, his brother, James Sullivan, is speaking out — he believes John not only helped instigate the riot, but he did so along with some 226 other members of Antifa. (Related: Situation Update, Jan. 16th, 2021 – “Operation Trust” psyop revealed, DC prepares for large-scale WAR.)

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Post by CaKeLoveR 13.02.21 18:45

I have no knowledge of impeachment procedure, but I don't think the old boy presiding  know what's going on, either. He reminds me of Old Mr. Grace. Only my opinion,  of course.
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