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Post by crusader 07.07.21 8:16

I am in full agreement with Verdi's above post. ^^^

And always in the back of my mind is the thought, these so called partners in crime with Brueckner, were money mad, they would do anything to get it.

Why then did they not turn him in when there was a substantial reward to be had?


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Firstly, there is little or no evidence in the public domain that supports the medieval attack on Christian Brueckner, it all appears to be propagated by the media, at home and abroad.  Namely the UK and Germany.  There is no evidence of Brueckner's past alleged convictions nor evidence of the slanderous accusations appended to his name, again by the press - primarily the tabloid press.

^^^ Spot on.
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Post by Verdi 07.07.21 13:06

And it all started here..

In the coming months we would learn that burglaries were rife on that stretch of the Algarve coast (in Praia da Luz, burglars were ‘like mice’, according to one resident), and although it is difficult to imagine how a burglary could escalate into an abduction, we now know that this is not unheard of.

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Post by Verdi 07.07.21 15:44

And here..

One of the Ocean Club tourists states having heard Gerald McCann saying on the telephone that there were paedophile networks in Portugal, and that it was they who were responsible for Madeleine's abduction. Absolutely astonishing! Just a few hours after his daughter's disappearance, the father already knows who is guilty!

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Post by Verdi 07.07.21 16:28

Detective Chief Inspector Mark Cranwell, who leads Operation Grange press briefing early June 2020


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Post by Silentscope 07.07.21 16:44

The bottom line of Amaral’s discourse remains that Brueckner has been chosen as an ‘almost perfect suspect’.
“As the parents said it was a pedophile from the start, a pedophile has had to be found”, he told Carvalho – adding that the only detail that would make Brückner  ‘more perfect’ as a suspect would be “if he was dead”.
Little has been said in the British press about Amaral’s latest comments. 
Nothing has been reported on his insistence that the kidnap theory is “the one where the least evidence actually exists”.
Focus in the mainstream now is that despite the media brouhaha, charges may never be brought against Christian Brueckner – for the simple reason that nothing but circumstantial evidence links him to the disappearance from Praia da Luz 13 years ago of Madeleine McCann.
https://www.portugalresident.com/what-kidnap-maddie-detective-gives-interview-as-mainstream-warns-investigation-could-be-dropped-if-missing-evidence-isnt-found/
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Post by Verdi 07.07.21 17:12

As asked of you many times in the past, would you please post in context Silentscope.  Unedited random selected verbiage has little or no meaning without context.

The complete article..

“What kidnap?” Maddie detective gives interview as mainstream warns “investigation could be dropped if missing evidence isn’t found”

By
Natasha Donn - 26th June 2020

Gonçalo Amaral, the detective whose theory on what happened to Madeleine McCann sparked a massive court battle with the missing child’s parents, has finally spoken about the media ‘circus’ involving latest suspect Christian Brueckner.

Almost the minute he did so, Rogério Alves – the Portuguese lawyer representing Kate and Gerry McCann – dismissed his input as ‘fantasy’.

Shortly afterwards reports started churning out the suggestion that ‘the whole investigation could be dropped unless missing evidence isn’t found”.

Said the Sun in another of its ‘exclusives’ on the case: “NO CHARGE Madeleine McCann suspect may NOT be charged admit German prosecutors despite ‘concrete evidence”.

Within the text, the concrete evidence is explained as (little more than) German police being “convinced” of Brueckner’s guilt.

As Amaral has said since the ‘early days’ when he was removed from the investigation for his inconvenient approach, it really is time for a serious probe.

Anyone who has followed this mystery through the ups and down of the last 13 years will recall that many others have called for a serious investigation – from former Metropolitan Police chief Colin Sutton, to the group of ‘armchair detectives’ often dismissed as conspiracy theorists (click here).

Amaral gave his interview to ‘local’ newspaper ‘Jornal do Centro’, following a TV slot last weekend where he suggested German investigators actually ‘released’ questionable images when they trailed their quest for ‘the smoking gun’ that would nail Brueckner to “the deed” (click here).

The Portuguese-registered camper van that Brueckner drove when living in the Algarve back in the early 2000s was not white and yellow, as police images have shown, said Amaral. It was covered in childish graffiti.

The stills of the very different-looking camper were shown to news anchor José Alberto Carvalho and beamed to the television audience.

“Is it that the German authorities came to the conclusion that in 2007 the vehicle was painted white? Who told them that?” Quizzed Amaral.

“Could it be that German or British authorities – because I don’t know who did this, it certainly didn’t come from Portugal – could it be that they released this to try and check information? See if anyone called up to say, ‘I saw that vehicle’ when of course they couldn’t have because the van looked different then..?”

Amaral also questioned the images of Brueckner splashed across the world’s press. They were relatively recent. None showed him as he had been in 2007, and “people change”, said the former detective who has himself changed radically over 13 complicated years.

The bottom line of Amaral’s discourse remains that Brueckner has been chosen as an ‘almost perfect suspect’.

“As the parents said it was a pedophile from the start, a pedophile has had to be found”, he told Carvalho – adding that the only detail that would make Bruecker ‘more perfect’ as a suspect would be “if he was dead”.

Little has been said in the British press about Amaral’s latest comments.

Nothing has been reported on his insistence that the kidnap theory is “the one where the least evidence actually exists”.

Focus in the mainstream now is that despite the media brouhaha, charges may never be brought against Christian Brueckner – for the simple reason that nothing but circumstantial evidence links him to the disappearance from Praia da Luz 13 years ago of Madeleine McCann.

Brueckner’s lawyers meantime are pushing for their client’s release from jail where he has already served ⅔ of a drug sentence.

https://www.portugalresident.com/what-kidnap-maddie-detective-gives-interview-as-mainstream-warns-investigation-could-be-dropped-if-missing-evidence-isnt-found/

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Post by Verdi 08.07.21 1:05

Lest they forget..

Madeleine McCann 'assumed dead' by German prosecutors

Published 4 June 2020

Madeleine McCann is "assumed" to be dead, say German prosecutors, who are investigating the disappearance of the British girl in 2007.

A 43-year-old German man is being investigated on suspicion of murder, the public prosecutor added.

The suspect, who has been named in German media as Christian B, is currently serving a prison sentence.

He is believed to have been in the area where Madeleine, aged three, was last seen while on holiday in Portugal.

The UK's Metropolitan Police said it had received more than 270 calls and emails since a new appeal for information was launched on Wednesday.

Hans Christian Wolters, from the Braunschweig Public Prosecutor's Office in Germany, said in an update on Thursday: "We are assuming that the girl is dead.

"With the suspect, we are talking about a sexual predator who has already been convicted of crimes against little girls and he's already serving a long sentence."

He said the suspect was regularly living in the Algarve between 1995 and 2007 and had jobs in the area, including in catering, but also committed burglaries in hotels and dealt drugs.

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The McCann family's spokesman said Madeleine's parents, Kate and Gerry, felt the new development was "potentially very significant".

Clarence Mitchell, who has represented the family since Madeleine went missing, said that in 13 years he couldn't "recall an instance when the police had been so specific about an individual.

"Of all the thousands of leads and potential suspects that have been mentioned in the past, there has never been something as clear cut as that from not just one, but three police forces", he said.

The Met Police, who are working with their German and Portuguese counterparts, said the case remained a "missing persons" investigation in the UK because it does not have "definitive evidence" as to whether Madeleine is alive or not.

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Police released pictures showing the interior of one house believed to be linked to the suspect

The suspect has been described as white with short blond hair, and about 6ft (1.8m) tall with a slim build at the time.

Police have also released photos of two vehicles - a VW camper van and a Jaguar car - which are believed to be linked to the man, as well as a house in Portugal.

The day after Madeleine vanished in 2007, the suspect transferred the Jaguar to someone else's name.

New suspect identified in Madeleine McCann case
Madeleine went missing shortly before her fourth birthday from an apartment in Praia da Luz on the evening of 3 May 2007 while her parents were with friends at a nearby tapas bar.

Her disappearance sparked a huge and costly police hunt across much of Europe - the most recent Metropolitan Police investigation, which began in 2011, has cost more than £11m.

Det Ch Insp Mark Cranwell, who is in charge of the Met investigation - known as Operation Grange - said the suspect, then aged 30, frequented the Algarve between 1995 and 2007, staying for "days upon end" in his camper van and living a "transient lifestyle".

He was in the Praia da Luz area where the McCann family was staying when she disappeared and received a phone call at 19:32, which ended at 20:02. Madeleine is believed to have disappeared between 21:10 and 22:00 that evening.

Police have released details of the suspect's phone number (+351 912 730 680) and the number which dialled him (+351 916 510 683), and said any information about these numbers could be "critical".

Det Ch Insp Cranwell said the caller was a "key witness" and should get in touch, while he also appealed to the public for details about the suspect.

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A camper van belonging to the suspect was seen around Praia da Luz in Portugal

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The suspect transferred the registration of this 1993 Jaguar XJR6 to someone else the day after Madeleine disappeared

The joint appeal from the British, German and Portuguese police includes a £20,000 reward for information leading to the conviction of the person responsible for Madeleine's disappearance.


Those with information can contact the Operation Grange incident room on 020 7321 9251.

Det Ch Insp Cranwell said he wanted to thank members of the public who had already got in touch.

"We are pleased with the information coming in, and it will be assessed and prioritised," he said.

"We continue to urge anyone with information to come forward and speak with us."

'Dare to hope'

Jim Gamble, who served as the senior child protection officer in the UK's first police investigation into Madeleine's disappearance, said it was the first time in 13 years "when I actually dare to hope".

The "circumstantial evidence" that had been shared by the police made the new suspect a "really significant person of interest", he said.

He said he believed the man "came to light a number of years ago" but was only being made public now because it was a "painstaking" process which began from "a point of chaos" after the initial investigation had been "bungled".


Analysis by Danny Shaw - Home Affairs Correspondent

Is this the breakthrough? Is this German prisoner the man who can unlock the mystery?

It certainly has the feel of a significant development - police have used those very words.

Evidence, according to detectives, places the man near the scene; the re-registering of his car the next day is undoubtedly suspicious.

And his criminal record, disclosed by the German police, is a disturbing guide as to what his motivations might have been.

But... there have been so many false trails in the case before - clues, sightings and suspects that led nowhere.

Three years ago, during the last major police appeal, Scotland Yard said it was working on one final "critical" line of inquiry.

Now, we're told there's another one. That may explain why Met detectives - who've been involved in the case for nine years - are being rather more cautious than their German counterparts.

In a statement, the McCanns, from Rothley in Leicestershire, welcomed the appeal: "We would like to thank the police forces involved for their continued efforts in the search for Madeleine.

"All we have ever wanted is to find her, uncover the truth and bring those responsible to justice.

"We will never give up hope of finding Madeleine alive, but whatever the outcome may be, we need to know as we need to find peace."

A Downing Street spokesman said the latest developments appeared to be significant and No 10's thoughts were with the McCann family "who have had to endure so much".

Police said the suspect was one of 600 people that detectives on the UK inquiry originally looked at, though he had not been a suspect.

After a 10-year anniversary appeal in 2017, "significant" fresh information about him was provided.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52916137




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Post by Verdi 08.07.21 1:24

Another interesting pointer! The image published by the above BBC report..

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Police released pictures showing the interior of one house believed to be linked to the suspect

The Discovery+ documentary, when filming Manfred Seyferth's spiel about the video he and his accomplice discovered in Christian Brueckner's 'deserted empty' property - the video that led to Brueckner's conviction for rape, showed a thin beam as seen in the above image.

I quote.... 'in the middle of the house there was a beam in the living room. I can't see that here, but you'll have a picture of it I think'

I can't upload the images from the documentary at the moment, it will have to wait until tomorrow.

Meanwhile the question is, how come the image of the house interior published by the press is furnished but the images in the Discovery + documentary show an empty house as described by Manfred Seyferth?

Nothing suspicious here!




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Post by Silentscope 08.07.21 13:53

The empty property where the Video was found was the British owned ’Yellow house’ in PDL. On it were two Films according to Manfred S.

The Video of a young Girl being abused tied to the Beam was shot in the living room of ‘Escola Vehla’ (old School). 
The Video of the American Pensioner was shot in her own Villa in PDL.

As this alleged Video was burnt, it could not be presented as evidence in the Rape trial of the Pensioner, but Statements were made instead. The finding of a hair on her bed containing Brückner’s DNA seems to have convinced the Prosecution of his guilt.

All about as accurate as that ‘Winnebago’ picture they used.
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Post by Verdi 09.07.21 16:51

Discovery + Prime suspect:  The Madeleine McCann Case - Episode 1

Transcript of video subtitles..

Sandra Felgueiras:  He stayed in prison because he didn't give, or didn't want to give a formal address.  He was just saying he was living in a van.

Later we found out he didn't want to give his address to the court because inside his house there was a camera with videos of his raping.

Manfred Seyferth:  That's the house.

Yes that's the house I went to.  The police already showed me these.  

My colleague and I went to the mountains in Santa Clara to a place that belonged to the Bandidos and we lived there for two or three weeks.

After two weeks my colleague had the idea that we could look in Christian's house because he was in prison.  So we'd have a look, see if there was anything we could take.

We were thinking of diesel , of course.

And then we drove off at night to the house.

I can still remember where the house was.

It's an old white house with an overgrown garden around it.

It was pretty overgrown with lots of cars in it

There was a Jaguar there, a Mercedes S Class,  a Bedford

There was an Opel station wagon and a Ford station wagon

I can't remember exactly

And a small panel van

And - it was open.  Everything.  Back door open, front door open

Everything was ripped apart and in a mess.

I thought that was the police.

That's what they always do when they're looking for stuff.

In the middle of the house there was a beam in the living room

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I can't see that here but you'll have a picture of it, I think

When Christian lived there it was full of stuff

But this time there wasn't so much there

I took a pistol I had found and checked where the diesel had been

There were only 20 litres.  It was all empty.  There was nothing left

And then he took a camera, the famous camera

And then we went back to this place in the mountains

And my colleague fiddled around with the camera and turned it on

He always does that when finding a mobile.  

He always checks the videos on it

On the films there was a woman, I would say she was about 45.

A bit stout, a bit sturdy

He had her lying on a table

And he hit on the breasts with a ruler or stick

And she was wailing and screaming

And there was sound, there was sound on the thing

It was terrible but there was sound on the cassette

And, you couldn't see much of christian on it but the way he moved, his voice

It was Christian 100%

Then I saw another video tape.

There was a young woman, I'd say about 16

And he'd chained her up

In the apartment there's a tree trunk or a beam that goes down

He had chained her to that

The camera was steady

there wasn't anyone moving around with the camera

And she had to blow him

And she puked while doing it and he responded ..

'Oh, my lovely new carpet.  You're ruining my carpet

It was Christian with this girl, you could see that

Yes, she was certainly forced

She didn't voluntarily tie herself up there

There was no love or anything.  It was pure torture for the girl


Journalist:  The videos.  You recognised that they were both at Christian's house?


MS:  Yes, the beam

Yes the other one, too.  The table too
It was his house, you can tell right away, if you've seen it


Journalist:  I thought that only one of videos was at this house - but you think it was both?


MS:  No, I think both were

I think both were

You're making me feel unsure.  I need to think.  Let me think

I remember

But not 100% now you're asking


Voice over:  Manfred Seyferth and his accomplice both claim they found the video recordings inside Christian B's home but their recollections differ when it comes to what they saw on the tapes.  In particular they disagree about the age of the woman


Friedrich Fulscher:  The witnesses gave very different accounts of this scene.   There are so many contraditions.  That even the court finally made the assumption that the recording could not even show the crime for which he had been convicted.  They made a conclusion based on motive and sentenced him because of that.

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MS:  I said, throw the camera away, throw the films away

Because I thought we did break in, after all andI didn't want to advertise the fact that we'd broken in

I don't know what happened to the videos

I just know from hearsay that he left them in his motorhome and that he sold his motorhome and that the camera and the videotapes
He told me that sometime in Greece


Journalist:  Why would you sell a van with such vieos in it, doesn't that sound crazy?


MS:  It sounds a bit stupid, when you hear it

~~~

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Frankly I wouldn't trust Manfred Seyferth to empty the elsan.

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Post by Silentscope 10.07.21 11:35

Helge Busching apparently attempted at first to contact Operation Grange under an assumed name.
He used the Mobile of a local Albanian woman to place the call.
Only after some Police investigation was his true identity found out.
Operation Grange staff then flew in to Athens to take his Statement.

INTERNATIONAL POLICE COOPERATION DIVISION

Attica Security Directorate
File and Identity Search Sub-Directorate / Search Department
(addresses and names and phone numbers follow)

Theme: Article 32 of Decision 2007/533 / JHA - MISSING PERSON - NATIONAL of the UNITED KINGDOM McCann Madeleine, born 12/5/2003 - Registration by the Portuguese authorities

Athens, 20/7/2017 (20th of July 2017)
Electronic *trafficking?* for those who are connected to the POL network
To: 1) INTERNATIONAL POLICE COOPERATION DIVISION

In execution of the above, we inform you that from the Archive of our Directorate nothing appears for the German citizen L ****, born 1971, as he happens to be unknown.

From the searches we carried out for him in the available applications of the Department of Informatics, his full identity was verified, which are B **** (surname) H*** (name) of RAINER and IRENE, born 11/02/1971 in Germany, holder of the passport no. xxxxxx issued by the German Authorities and of the xxxxxx Tax Registration Number certified by the Tax Office of Chania, with declared residence address at the Agricultural Detention Center Agios and contact phone number 28210-xxxxx (which corresponds to the telephone number of the secretariat of the aforementioned Detention Center).

For the above individual, the no. 83351 file prepared by the YEEVE (Directorate of Criminal Investigations in Northern Greece) of KTH type, with registration date on 10/04/2015, as well as the no. 001381180 kept file (person number and form 6169191) at the AEA (Directorate of State Security of the Greek Police Headquarters) / Directorate of Foreigners, which is said to have been drawn up on 03/05/2017, in the context of the first registration of a foreigner DIRECTORY by the same Service.

From our further investigation, it emerged that he is registered by the Chania Police Directorate in the application "Permits-Release of Prisoners" with number 1294B2, as he had received three exit permits while he was detained at the Agricultural Detention Center of Agia Chania. 09/04/2015)

According to the external communications data provided to us by the company concerned for the no. 69xxx telephone connection, the holder of which is a foreign national under data ATANASOVA (surname) KAMELIYA (name) with declared residential address on Kozozi street no. XX in Athens (area of Agios Panteleimon), with ID number 643488247, which activated this connection in 2016. (cannot see the exact date)

Our Service is constantly on the case and in case the missing person is located or in case further information emerges that may contribute to it, we will come back.

Please be advised.
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Would you please provide the link to the source of this document ^^^.

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https://www.tovima.gr/2017/08/26/society/i-skotlant-giarnt-psaxnei-to-mystiko-tis-mikris-mantlin-stin-athina/

According to documents and testimonies revealed by "To Vima tis Kyriakis", the British police have been cooperating with the Hellenic Police in the last few days. for the examination of a 46-year-old German who had been arrested and resides in our country and is identified as an important and reliable witness in the thriller of little Madeline. As it still turns out, a Scotland Yard team met the man a few days ago in Athens and obtained critical information about the girl's fate..........

continued with relevant info about Busching..
Until a few weeks ago, the Greek dimension of the thriller appeared. On July 18, 2017, the Directorate of International Police Cooperation on Katehaki Avenue drafted a document that referred to an update of the "liaison" of the Hellenic Police. in London by the Metropolitan Police of Great Britain. As it is noted, "in May 2017, the 46-year-old man of German origin, who lives in Athens, contacted the team of the" Grange "operation, in order to assist in the specific investigations" . According to the same document, the 46-year-old had been imprisoned for the case of illegal immigrants and was present at the police services, but without being identified.
Reliable witness?
As indicated in the document of the Directorate of International Police Cooperation based on the information of Scotland Yard, " so far the information he has given voluntarily and without monetary or other consideration to the Metropolitan Police about the case has been cross-checked and is considered a reliable source" !

A further investigation by the Police Cooperation Directorate revealed that the 46-year-old German, who lived in France, was arrested in 2011 in Igoumenitsa when he tried to transport three illegal immigrants from Africa in his car. A case was filed against him and he was then released. . According to other sources, the foreigner was arrested in 2015 in Thessaloniki when he came back to Greece for a vacation. He was taken to court where he was sentenced to seven years and five months in prison. He had denied any wrongdoing and claimed that he "facilitated the three foreigners who had hitchhiked him". He was detained in Chania prison, from where he communicated with the members of the "Grange" operation.
He was released a few weeks ago and allegedly used a mobile phone belonging to a foreigner from a Balkan country, who lived in Agios Panteleimon. In addition, he has been banned from leaving the country in view of the trial in the second instance, which has been determined for next month.
Testimony in "VIMA"
"To Vima" located the 46-year-old foreigner and a critical witness in the case of three-year-old Madeline in an area of ​​Fthiotida. As he noted, "I met a few days ago with a member of the Scotland Yard who came to Athens. I give important information about the case. On the days that Madeline disappeared, I was - in a neighboring area - in this province of Portugal. I had contacted the local police even then, but the investigation had been abandoned. Now there is intense interest from Scotland Yard for what I know. You understand that something serious is happening for them to come here to meet me. But I have an explicit prohibition on saying anything to anyone else. My cooperation with the English police will continue in the coming days "
However, when asked about Madeline's fate and whether she believes she is alive, he only answered that "the ten years that have passed since then are many"
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Post by Verdi 14.07.21 13:35

Aha just as I thought!

A google translated article taken from ToVima, the Greek newspaper that's been doing the cyber rounds for quite a while.

The only source it would appear.

Scotland Yard is looking for Madeleine’s secret in Athens
August 28, 2017


https://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/2017/08/28/madeleine-mccann-greece/

Cobblers!

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Post by Silentscope 14.07.21 14:03

Tell Herr Wolters why you think it is all ‘cobblers’ Verdi.

DCI Mark Cranwell from OG took the Statement.

Most of it has been blacked out.
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Post by Verdi 14.07.21 15:56

@Silentscope  #911

Four days ago, on 10th July 2021, you posted-up what would appear to be an official document.  I asked you to provide the link to the source of this document, in return you post a google translation of a greek newspaper report.

So I ask again, would you please provide the forum with a link to the document you posted up-page #119.

Whilst you at it you can also provide a link to the source of information that confirms DCI Mark Cranwell of Operation Grange 'took the statement' and 'most of it has been blacked out'.

Much obliged!

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Post by Silentscope 14.07.21 20:43

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https://www.tanea.gr/2020/06/08/greece/astynomika/apokalyptika-eggrafa-gia-tin-eksafanisi-tis-mantlin-ti-eixe-deiksei-ereyna-stin-ellada-gia-germano-poiniko/

@Verdi

Here is the Original link to the Ta Nea website. Screenshots in Greek refer. Translation from http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11907.105

The other Source (a German TV program) was flagged to PeterMac via PM at the time, as Herr Fülscher was shown a copy of the Busching statement in his Office by a Female Reporter. If I can find it again I will post it for you.

Despite all attempts to gain ‘Akteneinsicht’ Fülscher has been unable to reveal what is behind the Blacked out sections.
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Post by Verdi 15.07.21 1:29

I'm none the wiser @Silentscope  this is just nonsense - not that I expected anything else.

Apart from the fact that I knew the background of all this comes from the miscarriageofjustice forum, it makes not a scrap of sense, I'll resist the temptation to comment on the history of the forum's administrator and the general tenor of commentary thereon.

Where to start?  The conundrum has more twists and turns than Hampton Court maze and it all leads back to the same place.

I think the simplest way forward would be for you to tell your 'source' to log-in and post for himself.  Using you as a go-between is time consuming, pointless and confusing as you clearly don't know what you're talking about.  Going off every time you're asked a question and reporting back with nonsensical disjointed links that you can't rationalize leads nowhere, maybe your 'source' could provide a more coherent response.  Although I doubt it, probably why you are being used.

That of course is up to you if you don't mind being used but from my angle the forum's integrity is at stake.

Oh and by the way, next time you think of red flagging - try Karl Marx!

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Post by Silentscope 15.07.21 9:50

🚩 Red flag- @Verdi

‘Spiegel TV’ https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/spiegel-tv-ueber-kriminalfall-maddie-mccann-neue-zeugenaussagen-a-156d70ff-062e-4318-b344-fea46d68d55a Time: 04:09 refers.

This is a German translation of Helge Bs statement which was originally taken in English by OG staff in a Hotel in Athens. The British press maintain that the Blacked out parts refer to Maddies disappearance.

The translation of the Greek Police reports was originally done on Websleuths, then lifted to miscarriage of justice, but you chose to ignore this, why? For the record I have no Affiliation with either. 
Nor Karl Marx.

In the interests of maintaining integrity, get your own German translation.
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Post by sharonl 15.07.21 18:35

A statement taken in ENGLISH, by OPERATION GRANGE, not officers but STAFF, in a HOTEL.

The part that is is BLACKENED OUT, is about Madeleine.   The BRITISH PRESS have confirmed this.

Any credible witness would have gone to the Portuguese Police at the earliest possible opportunity, May 4th 2007 or as soon as he had any information.  As for Operation Grange, we know that this investigation has no credibility and should be disregarded.  And, who on earth would write something, black out the bits about a child's disappearance and tell the British Press what's blacked out?

Even if the witness did decide to suddenly give evidence that he had be witholding in a missing child case for 14 years whilst the world and his his mate were looking for, why go to Operation Grange and have them fly over there? Why not go to the local police station and ask for his statement to be taken and emailed across to Portugal or the UK?

Red flags Galore here Verdi, telling us it's all nonsense.  It really needs to be moved to Garbage.
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Post by Silentscope 15.07.21 20:52

Clues:

German gets out of Jail earlier than expected having only served one third of his Seven year sentence for Trafficking 3 people.
Runs straight to OG with a story which he has allegedly already told the PJ years before, but they did nothing about.
British Officers hire an entire Floor of an Athens Hotel, sweep it for Bugs and take his Statement, then send it to the BKA.
His buddy Manfred S stated Helge suddenly had lots of Money, and was ‘Hoppa Hoppa’ drunk afterwards.
The Prosecution withholds all their ‘Evidence’ from the Public and Defence in order to not damage their ‘investigation’.
Manfred says in one interview that they broke in, in another interview he says the House was already open, and he thought the Police had ransacked it. Everything was covering the floor.
Helge B has also made a Skype call to French police (according to Herr Fülscher in Spiegel TV) where he can be seen wearing a mask and bullet proof vest. In it he states he has knowledge about the false Detective of the McCanns Kevin Halligen, who he claims was murdered.

What will they come up with next?

My guess is it will have something to do with the Grey Corsa that Bushing took from the Brückner house in PDL.

Wait up.
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Post by Silentscope 22.07.21 9:42


  • Alex Winter



  • 0:28, 24 Sep 2020
     
  • Updated : 2:08, 24 Sep 2020


THE prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann has hired a crack team of Brit lawyers, it's been revealed tonight.
Christian B , 43, has instructed a UK legal firm to assist him in his bid to prove his innocence - but it's not yet known who's footing the bill.

[size=21]Christian B, the prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, has hired a team of British lawyers [size=16]Credit: AFP


Police say mobile phone records place him at the Portuguese resort where Madeleine disappeared Credit: PA: Press Association

His German lawyer Friedrich Fuelscher told the Mirror : "I can confirm we are using UK lawyers."
But he refused to comment on who is responsible for paying lawyers' fees.
B, described as a "drifter", is currently serving a sentence in a German jail.
He has no independent source of income - and the person or organization responsible for footing legal bills remains shrouded in mystery.

When asked who was funding his representation, Mr Fuelscher replied: "I'm afraid I cannot answer that question."
However, he said one of the lawyers' roles was “looking at the media coverage surrounding him”.
Mr Fuelscher has gone on record complaining about the “lack of objectivity” in some of the press reporting in Germany and the UK.
It is understood the legal firm combs all British news websites and reads every national newspaper each day to check coverage.

And earlier this week, Mr Fulscher insisted police have the wrong man - telling reporters: "I cannot go into details but it is very significant and involves someone who has provided me with vital information. 
"When I reveal it you will fall off your chair."
B was named earlier this year as the chief suspect in Madeleine’sdisappearance.
Police say mobile phone records place him at Portuguese resort Praia da Luz on the night the tot went missing in 2007.

Source: https://www-thesun-co-uk.translate.goog/news/12752763/madeleine-mccann-suspect-brit-lawyers-clear-name-no-income/?_x_tr_sl=es&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB&_x_tr_pto=ajax,se,elem,sc

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Post by Jill Havern 25.07.21 1:42

'NOTHING CONCRETE' 
Madeleine McCann prime suspect Christian B ‘may have had nothing to do with her disappearance’

Isaac Crowson
22:21, 24 Jul 2021Updated: 22:21, 24 Jul 2021

PRIME suspect Christian B may have had nothing to do with Madeleine McCann’s disappearance, a new probe is set to reveal.

TV investigators say fresh leads indicate two Russians could have snatched the three-year-old from her Portugal hols apartment bed in 2007.

It comes as we can reveal German cops who named jailed rapist Christian B, 44, last June, have “nothing concrete”.

The TV team, led by an ex-detective, are understood to have new witnesses.

A Portuguese source said: “The new information is pointing towards the fact two Russians could be behind it.”

The three-part Channel 5 documentary is set to air later this year.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15683398/madeleine-mccann-christian-b-documentary/

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Post by PeterMac 25.07.21 7:18

[QUOTE:  If the ex-detective is the total fraud MW-T then we know what to expect.
He tried to talk to Fülscher a few months ago, but I was able to provide some details, 
and I believe it did not happen.]


It seems it is Mark W-T
Many thanks to the researcher who led me to this on Twitter
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Post by PeterMac 25.07.21 7:56

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/maddie-prime-suspect-christian-b-24611447
Maddie prime suspect Christian B 'may have had nothing to do with disappearance'
A new three-part documentary looking into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann reportedly looks at a fresh lead involving two Russians while new witnesses are interviewed

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A new TV documentary looking into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann may reveal that key suspect Christian B was not involved.
Channel 5 is to air a three-part series which focuses on fresh leads that point towards two Russians who may have taken Madeleine from the McCann’s holiday apartment in 2007.
Led by an ex-police detective, the documentary is reported to speak to new witnesses.
A Portuguese source said: “The new information is pointing towards the fact two Russians could be behind it.”
It comes as Christian B has criticised the case that has been made against him by German prosecutors who have identified him as a prime suspect.


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Christian B is the prime suspect for German prosecutors who claim to have evidence against him (Image: Shutterstock)
He wrote a letter to German media saying that the prosecution was “persecuting an innocent person”.

It is the first time he has commented publicly over the disappearance of Madeleine, with German prosecutors believing she is dead and claim to have evidence against Christian B.
Earlier this month police were given an extra £350,000 to try and find the culprit over the disappearance.



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Madeline was snatched from a holiday apartment where she was staying with her family in Portugal (Image: Getty Images)
Operation Grange has now cost the taxpayer £12.5million since it was launched in 2011 and Met Police Commissioner Cressida Dick said the search for Madeleine will continue until there is “nothing left to do”.
A Home Office spokesperson said: "The Government has provided up to £350,000 for Operation Grange in 2021-22.
"In line with our Special Grant processes, funding for Operation Grange is approved on an annual basis.
"Ministers have approved a request for £349,328 of funding for this financial year.”

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