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Post by Silentscope 15.06.21 23:36

He needs to counterbalance the amount of crap being written about him. 

The Bild is Germanys version of the Sun newspaper.

Just as sensational and reliable if you ask me…
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Post by Verdi 16.06.21 15:20

So what do you hope to achieve, snooping around after hours - a cheap victory?

You've got a lot to learn.

Trying to ingratiate yourself by private contact with other members and toadying around members on the open forum in order to enhance your reputation is deceitful at best, devious at worse.

If it's a spot of nocturnal phishing you're doing, you need better quality equipment!

Or do you only engage with those you know and trust .... ring any bells eh?

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Post by Verdi 16.06.21 15:59

@sharonl wrote: thinking What a load of nonsense.

If CB didn't want to attract attention, why draft such a letter?

Nonsense is putting it mildly censored !

Until such times, if ever, credible evidence is forthcoming that directly links Christian Brueckner to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, he is irrelevant.

Just another distraction to add to the ongoing list, courtesy of the media - and it works everytime.

This same nonsense has been propagated for a year now with little or no progress. I wonder if Brueckner even exists in terms of a prolific criminal. Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't recall seeing a scrap of evidence to even support, let alone prove, that Brueckner is guilty of any of the crimes reported by the media.

He has been repeatedly referred to as a paedo (media speak), not a very nice accusation if innocent of such a crime and an indiscrimate rapist. In itself very curious considering the alleged video footage showing the rape was found and destroyed by Manfred Seyferth and accomplice - so say Seyferth! He and his partner in crime couldn't even agree on the age of the alleged rape victim.

Would a court of law seriously sentence a suspect to imprisonment on the word of an errant criminal without any evidence?

As I've said before, there doesn't seem to be any documented evidence to support the various Brueckner alleged crimes. A dubious redacted document that bears no semblance to officialdom shown at the beginning of the Discovery+ mockuplenty and further mentioned later in the film by Portuguese journalist, Sandra Felguieras. Yes I was right first time, I've since checked it out and it was Felguieras who features prominently in the production.

This is an elaborate game.

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Post by Verdi 16.06.21 16:07

There was a Sun report online earlier but it's been swiped - drat! I didn't have time to copy and paste over. It was quite lengthy and went into great detail about Brueckner's dapper persona and lifestyle, whilst all the time he was leading a life of crime .... drug dealing, nicking diesel, burglary, raping and molesting children - allegedly.

This is all that remains, along with a daily blog update (?)..

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GERMAN cops probing Madeleine McCann suspect Christian B vow there will be "no let up" - despite him whining he is being persecuted.

And detectives believe his prison rant is a "clear sign" he’s “cracking under the weight of suspicion”.

It emerged earlier this week that the convicted rapist and child sex offender, 44, had penned a letter slamming the investigation as a “scandal” and said they “should resign” for “persecuting an innocent person”.

But a source close to the case told Sun Online: “German officers will not be deterred by the words and actions of a criminal.

"They remain convinced he is linked to Maddie’s disappearance and there will be no let up in proving this is the case.

It comes as it was claimed Christian B's "playboy" lifestyle covered up his crimes, with one ex-girlfriend telling the Mirror: "Chris could be very, very charming, very funny and very smooth in the way he talked.

“He always dressed nicely, held the door open, that kind of thing. He drove the nice car – the black Jaguar – was very gentlemanly and spoke properly."

Read our Madeleine McCann live blog below for the latest updates...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15190572/madeleine-mccann-found-news-latest-disappearance-christian-b-update/



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The only thing ‘cracking under pressure’ so far is the Prosecution’s case, and the Publics patience.

‘Filet forensics’ is off the Menu!
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Post by Silentscope 19.06.21 11:02

Kai Feldhaus of the Bild newspaper in Germany reveals that the letter Brückner sent out to various News outlets, apparently without the knowledge of his Defence team, finally found its way to him through a friend.

https://www.sundayworld.com/podcasts/crime-world-podcast/episode-32-the-horrifying-crimes-of-maddie-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner-40555235.html
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Post by Verdi 21.06.21 16:37

crime world Episode 32: The horrifying crimes of Maddie McCann suspect Christian Brueckner

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Nicola Tallant

June 19 2021 09:15 AM

He’s the oddball German drifter suspected of abducting and murdering Madeleine McCann in 2007 who has now been identified by Irish woman Hazel Behan as matching the attacker who raped her in a hotel room in Portugal three years previous.

But as German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters continues his lengthy investigation into the life and crimes of Christian Brueckner, the suspect broke his silence this week when he sent a letter and drawings to German newspaper Bild demanding that Wolters resign.

So what is happening within the German investigation into Brueckner’s links with the Maddie McCann case? And what do his jailhouse writings mean?

Nicola Tallant talks to Bild’s chief reporter Kai Feldhaus about the extraordinary correspondence and the sinister background of the man at the centre of the Maddie disappearance.

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https://www.sundayworld.com/podcasts/crime-world-podcast/episode-32-the-horrifying-crimes-of-maddie-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner-40555235.html

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Post by Mainline 21.06.21 18:30

@Verdi wrote:He contacted the BKA – Germany’s equivalent of the FBI – three weeks ago with the details.

They allegedly replied saying: "Your ­information will be appropriately incorporated into our work."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15265523/madeleine-mccann-suspect-police-probe-scandal-speaking-first-time/

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Post by PeterMac 24.06.21 8:21

We believe we may have found the Podcast done by H Wolters which H Fülscher referred to in an email the other day.

https://www.braunschweiger-zeitung.de/podcast/crime/article232420333/Tatort-Niedersachsen-Der-Fall-Maddie.html

It is in German (SORRY !) so I'll google translate the text from the article.

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"I have to say that I am partly surprised myself at what I am supposed to have said." For the past year, Hans Christian Wolters has been one of the most quoted and interviewed prosecutors in Germany. Whether Russian, American, Australian or British media, he receives daily enquiries about the current state of the investigation in the case of three-year-old Maddie McCann, who disappeared in 2007 from a hotel room in the Portuguese holiday resort Praia da Luz.


In June 2020, the Braunschweig public prosecutor's office and the Federal Criminal Police Office went public with their suspicion in the ZDF search programme "Aktenzeichen XY ungelöst" that a now 44-year-old German with last residence in Braunschweig might have abducted the British child from her bed in the evening and murdered her. Since then, the world has been looking to Braunschweig in the Maddie case. When it comes to official information on the progress of the investigation, there is only one source for the media representatives: Hans Christian Wolters, the spokesperson of the public prosecutor's office in Braunschweig.


Maddie case: More than a thousand tips after witness appeal


In our newspaper's current crime podcast "Tatort Niedersachsen", Wolters reports why he is sometimes annoyed by the media, why going public was nevertheless important for the investigators and what he can and cannot reveal publicly. And he admits: "Personally, I underestimated how long the media echo would last."


According to Wolters, more than a thousand tips have come in since the witness appeal. "In the first few days we were literally overrun with tips from all over the world." It is taking time to process them seriously. The public prosecutor's office is still not disclosing any further details. However, Wolters said in the podcast that the long period of silence and the lack of a decision by the authorities indicate "that our appeal was successful".


Public prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters: Have findings and evidence that Maddie is actually dead


At the moment, however, it is not foreseeable "that we will come to a conclusion of the investigation, and I also cannot give a time window in which one can expect fundamental news from us".


For the public prosecutor's office and the Federal Criminal Police Office, the time had come last June when they could have expressed their suspicion that a German had taken Maddie into his custody and killed her, based on the evidence they had been gathering for years. "We have findings and evidence that allow no other conclusion than that Maddie is indeed dead," the prosecutor repeated. So far, this evidence has not been disclosed. The suspect's defence lawyer has also not yet had access to the files.


Who did the Maddie suspect talk to on the phone?


In the search broadcast, the investigators had only spoken of a mobile phone number which could be assigned to the suspect and which had been located in the mobile phone cell to which the hotel complex from which Maddie disappeared also belonged. Who did the suspect talk to on the phone there? That is still unclear.


This evidence is a piece of the puzzle. "But you have to imagine that we have other pieces of the puzzle that complete the picture for us," Wolters said in the podcast.
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Post by Silentscope 24.06.21 10:31

This evidence is a piece of the puzzle. "But you have to imagine that we have other pieces of the puzzle that complete the picture for us," Wolters said in the podcast.


I imagine they are trying to re-arrange the Puzzle to suit whatever it is that is most likely to convince the Public of Brückners guilt.


It will never go to a Court because latest then, the Staatsanwalt Wolters would have to present his case.
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Post by PeterMac 24.06.21 21:12

@Silentscope wrote:It will never go to a Court because latest then, the Staatsanwalt Wolters would have to present his case.


And Germany, in common with other Roman Law jurisdictions, has an INQUISITORIAL system.

It is not whether the Prosecution can prove the case, and the defence cannot adequately defend it.
The FACTS get brought out.
The Judge and the Schöffner, [the lay magistrates who assist the judge] are empowered to ask questions, and do so.
They ask about the facts, to establish what has been established and what has not.
They can identify gaps in the prosecution and defence arguments and fill them in.
It can be quite exciting to watch.

If you are Not Guilty, it is a far better system
The English Accusatorial system favours the Guilty
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Post by Verdi 25.06.21 13:43

Australian journalist Mark Saunokonoko podcast.  Resumé of alleged conversation between Mark Saunokonoko and German prosecutor Christian Wolters..

MS "Do you know with 100% certainty that CB was in PdL on the night that Madeleine vanished?"

The reply is that it's an assumption. They can't prove CB was using the phone or that he was in PdL when he did so. Wolters didn't know that the mast didn't belong to the Ocean Club and he didn't know the size of the area it covered.

MS "The German police have described it as a homicide investigation and the Metropolitan police as a missing person investigation... Which one is correct and how long has it been confirmed?"

Due to their evidence the germans have to say that Madeleine is dead and CB killed her. Wolters doesn't know why the UK police are investigating a missing person. He says the Germans have no body or part of a body and no forensic evidence. The evidence is strong enough to talk about, but not enough to lay charges or issue an arrest warrant. They became sure during the last two years.

Wolters doesn't know what evidence the Met have. MS asked them and they replied;

"We do not have definitive evidence whether Madeleine is alive or dead"

mMS "Do you believe your suspect acted alone?"

Wolters declined to comment.

MS "Is the concrete evidence that Madeleine is dead or that CB is responsible for her murder?"

Wolters "Both; it's combined, it's the same"

MS "Why hasn't CB been charged?"

Wolters says they can't charge until they're sure they'll get a conviction, and they're not. Their evidence isn't strong enough to get an arrest warrant for the crime.

MS "What exactly do you need?"

Wolters doesn't know. Maybe witnesses, photos or a video. All he knows is that they need more.

MS asks about the dogs. Wolters isn't allowed to comment on the past investigations or whether his concrete evidence fits the suggestion that there may have been a death in 5A.

Asked about the Smith sighting Wolters didn't comment.

Finally Wolters says it will be weeks or months before they will know if they have enough to charge CB. He doesn't know if they will suceed, but he's hopeful. Only after CB is charged will the concrete evidence be revealed.

https://omny.fm/shows/they-ve-taken-her/maddies-dead?in_playlist=they-ve-taken-her!podcast#description

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t16499-podcasts-madeleine-mccann#438678

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Post by Jill Havern 25.06.21 21:49

Madeleine McCann suspect’s ex had secret Algarve compound guarded by fierce dogs

Madeleine MCann investigators have been told of a secret compound on the Algarve owned by Christian Brueckner’s ex-girlfriend.

Nicole Fehlinger’s father Dieter went back to speak to the German equivalent of the FBI for a second time.

Prosecutors have confirmed he gave a lengthy interview and that they are seriously examining this new lead.

Madeleine disappeared from her family’s holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal, in May 2007 just a few days before her fourth birthday.

Nicole lived in Portugal at the time with Brueckner, who has been identified as the chief suspect in Madeleine’s disappearance.


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Nicole Fehlinger had access to compound
(Image: Phil Harris)


Mr Fehlinger has told investigators that Nicole and Brueckner had a secret compound on the Algarve which no-one else had been aware of.
He said it was guarded by four fierce Kangal dogs, which have the strongest bite of any in the world.
Mr Fehlinger said: “No one knows that my daughter not only had the private residence in Portugal at her disposal, but also a separate compound.
“No-one has ever searched there or the property has never turned up in connection with Maddie, Brueckner or Nicole.


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German prosecutors believe Madeleine McCann was murdered
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Police mugshot of Christian Brueckner
(Image: ITALIAN CARABINIERI PRESS OFFICE)


“It’s an overgrown property of over 5,000 square metres. It was a secure area, enclosed with fencing and four aggressive Kangal dogs were there day and night.
“The area is completely overgrown, not visible. No one could get in or out, only my daughter and perhaps Brueckner with her.”
The secret compound is on land very close to the house where Nicole lived on the Algarve, 38 miles from Praia da Luz.
The mother of three was part of a fostering programme in Portugal for troubled German youngsters. There is no suggestion she had anything to do with the disappearance of Madeleine, from Rothley, Leics.
German Police are only investigating Brueckner over the case. He is currently in jail after being convicted of other offences including rape.
Last year they named Brueckner, 44, as the prime suspect in Madeleine going missing after phone records placed him in the resort on the night she vanished.
The paedophile has accused prosecutors of bringing “shame” to the German legal system by making “scandalous” statements against him.


Nicole, also 44, was in a relationship with him for a couple of years after they met in a bar.
Court documents in Portugal revealed they had regular phone conversations and enjoyed a weekend break in Lisbon together just months after Madeleine disappeared.
Nicole worked as a hotel receptionist before returning to Wurzburg, Germany, around 10 years ago.
It remains unclear if they continued their relationship when Brueckner returned to Braunschweig to open a bar in 2012.


https://todayuknews.com/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-suspects-ex-had-secret-algarve-compound-guarded-by-fierce-dogs/

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Post by Verdi 26.06.21 0:53

Madeleine McCann suspect and ex had secret Portugal compound guarded by fierce dogs

EXCLUSIVE: Nicole Fehlinger’s father Dieter has spoken to the German equivalent of the FBI about his daughter and Christian Brueckner's secret compound in Portugal guarded by four fierce Kangal dogs

ByAndy Lines
20:14, 25 JUN 2021UPDATED20:25, 25 JUN 2021

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mcann-police-told-suspect-24400965

#makesyerfonkdunnit
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It's taken 14 years for this to surface?

If memory serves me well, the father featured in the Discovery+ mockuplenty, why didn't he mention it then?

I will check it out at my leisure!

Watch this space ....

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Post by PeterMac 26.06.21 8:10

5,000 square metres is just over an acre.   2/3 the size of a football pitch (7,140m2)
It is smaller than the size allowed in Spain to build a house in the campo, (10,000 m2)
It is a small scrub field with some wire round it, like many small scrub fields with wire round them all over the south of the Iberian peninsular.
It is highly unlikely that the dogs were Kangal, which are Turkish.
More likely they were Mastins, which are usual in sheep and goat herding communities in Spain, (and I assume Portugal)
In any event they need feeding and watering every couple of days.
The use of the word "Compound" implies buildings, walls, secrecy, rather then just a numbered plot, and Secret . . . is just Tabloid stupid.  The alleged aerial shot shows other plots with buildings, and you can hardly hide Plot no 46.
"No one could get in or out, only my daughter and perhaps Brueckner with her."   Or anyone with the key, or the ability to climb over a wire fence.

But then if we track down the "secret compound" from the photos in the  Mirror
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mcann-police-told-suspect-24400965

we find that it is in fact in a nice rural development of the type seen all over southern Iberia.  Building licences being granted to previously agricultural land, and new villas with pools spreading inexorably.
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You must make your own judgment about the veracity of this report, and its likely nexus to the case in point !
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Big story - then you need a big Dog!
The tabloids are getting desperate to keep the Story going?
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Spanish Mastin [Mastiff]

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Two fawn Spanish Mastiffs

This noble giant is aloof, dignified, calm and intelligent. It is devoted to its family and may politely accept strangers if it has been socialized properly, although it will be wary of them. It can be aggressive toward other dogs.  The Spanish Mastiff may be a less-than-ideal pet in urban situations, where its booming voice and massive size could be problematic. It is a wonderful protector of its home and family.
Socialization and training should begin early to ensure this dog a stable and reliable pet. Supervised exposure in puppyhood to a variety of unfamiliar but non-threatening dogs will help dampen a tendency to aggression toward other dogs.  The breed is quite alert and food motivated but can bore easily; training must be consistent and firm but gentle. Once the trainer has established the dog's respect as leader, the Spanish Mastiff will be an extremely loyal pet
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Turkish Kangal
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The Kangal Shepherd Dog is calm, controlled, independent, powerful and protective. They may be aloof towards strangers, but a well-socialized Kangal Dog is friendly with visitors and especially children.
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Post by Silentscope 26.06.21 12:22

The images of the Fence line and Grounds are listed as being supplied from the Olive press. Jon Clarke used to be a Daily Mail reporter for four years 1996-2000. He took on the Olive Press in 2006.

The Sun, Daily Mail and The Mirror all seem to be part of the Team McCann PR Setup.

The area around Albufeira seems to be getting a lot of ‘hits’ lately regarding Psychics and now this ‘Story’.

It is reflected nowhere in the German press as yet.
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Post by Mainline 26.06.21 12:41

Mr Fehlinger has told investigators that Nicole and Brueckner had a secret compound on the Algarve which no-one else had been aware of.

He said it was guarded by four fierce Kangal dogs, which have the strongest bite of any in the world.




“It’s an overgrown property of over 5,000 square metres. It was a secure area, enclosed with fencing and four aggressive Kangal dogs were there day and night.“The area is completely overgrown, not visible. No one could get in or out, only my daughter and perhaps Brueckner with her.”



So he may or 'may not have been there' , what use would Nicole have of a bunker and four dogs?

If it wasn't ascribed to her dad I would think it was a someone pulling their leg and them not realising.



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Post by Verdi 26.06.21 12:59

So what if Brueckner had access to a blot on the landscape guarded by a Cerberus, or a past alleged girlfriend had a plot of shrubbery guarded by a pack of mockapoodles - what's that got to do with the disappearance of Madeleine  McCann?

There is no evidence to suggest Madeleine McCann was abducted or kidnapped.  There is however strong evidence and intelligence that implicates the parents McCann and documented evidence that two trained dogs alerted to the scent of bodily fluids and death !?!

A non-story having the desired effect .... distraction! It works every time.

Nothing to see here, move along ...

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Post by Mainline 26.06.21 13:19

Can't edit my last post anymore so for info:

ForGen - https://www.forensik-hh.de/
https://www.instagram.com/forgenhamburg/?hl=en-gb


ETA - text from the post, I believe they are talking about the American case when they mention dna, contamination etc -

Forgenhamburg
ForGen und die Presse!
Wenn ein sehr, sehr guter Anwalt, eine nicht-untalentierte forensische Genetikerin und ein exorbitant motiviertes, akribisches und offensichtlich wirklich gutes, drei(!)-köpfiges Filmteam zusammenkommen, kann garantiert nur etwas wirklich Großartiges entstehen.
Das sagen wir jetzt mal nach guten drei Stunden anstrengender Dreherei ganz bescheiden.
Jetzt, nach überstandener Arbeit, üben wir uns in Geduld und warten, bis dieser Beitrag, in dem u.a. die Fragen der Tat-relevanten Spur und die Interpretation von DNA-Befunden beleuchtet werden, gesendet wird.
Das Ganze hat super viel Spaß gemacht, war sehr spannend anzusehen und einen großen Dank an dieser Stelle müssen wir noch loswerden für die Kollegen des Instituts für Hämatopathologie, in deren Räumlichkeiten wir drehen durften. Schließlich geht das aus Gründen der DNA-Kontamination nicht in unseren eigenen Laboren.
Das Wochenende haben wir uns also mehr als verdient und wünschen Euch ebenfalls gute Erholung.
Euer ForGen-Team mit Friedrich Sebastian Fülscher.


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Forgenhamburg ForGen and the press! When a very, very good lawyer, a non-untalented forensic geneticist and an exorbitantly motivated, meticulous and obviously really good three (!) - member film team come together, only something really great is guaranteed. Let's say that very modestly after a good three hours of exhausting turning work. Now, after we have finished our work, we will exercise patience and wait until this contribution, in which, among other things, the questions of the crime-relevant trace and the interpretation of DNA findings are shown, is broadcast. The whole thing was a lot of fun, it was very exciting to look at and at this point we have to say a big thank you for the colleagues at the Institute of Hematopathology, in whose premises we were allowed to shoot. After all, for reasons of DNA contamination, this cannot be done in our own laboratories. So we have more than earned the weekend and wish you a good rest as well. Your ForGen team with Friedrich Sebastian Fülscher.

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