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Post by Verdi 12.06.21 1:12

In a word .... cobblers !!!

They are taking the myth big time.

Why do I bother? Nigel Moore of mccannfiles threw in the towel so CMOMM has taken up the reins by documenting all media reports for posterity.

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Post by Verdi 12.06.21 1:18

Please note:

CMOMM is a UK based English speaking forum.  Would members please consider this and respect forum integrity and continuity when posting commentary, reports and links.

Thank you.

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Post by Doug D 12.06.21 7:45

That’s why PM posted the translations underneath!
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Post by PeterMac 12.06.21 10:27

@Doug D wrote:That’s why PM posted the translations underneath!

Important to have access to the original, in case the translation has a slightly different shade of meaning
which is often the case with German
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Post by Silentscope 12.06.21 10:47

Personally I think the main problem is that the British Press are making claims and reports on either old news that they have researched online, then spin into ‘new exclusive’ stories in the hope that the British public will not have access to Foreign news sources and notice the truth.

Or completely fabricate news based on previously reported stories which they ‘tie in’ to Madeleine in some way as a bait.

Even I have to fine tune any Google translation before posting.

German is a difficult language with a lot of Grammar to master.

Or you end up speaking like Yoda.
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Post by Verdi 12.06.21 13:02

Original source? That's very interesting .... what or who is the original source?

The German press is no more believable that the British press, possibly even less so as they believe they have a more important reputation to maintain.

If you want to go direct to the horses mouth. may I remind you that Herr Wolters and Brueckner's defence lawyer both feature prominently in the Discovery+ documentary, as did the Portuguese journalist Sandra Felgueiras and who would appear to be the star witness, Manfred Seyferth!

The media are not to be trusted to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth, be that in the UK or somewhere across the channel.

I've followed this German nonsense since it first hit the headlines. As with any other 'exclusive', it's taken so many twists and turns it's disappeared up it's own Oozlum - or is that wishful thinking. If anyone thinks Brueckner is the key to solving the case of missing Madeleine McCann then dream on. It's yet another convenient distraction to add to the McCann teams already impenetrable defence firewall.

Translating or interpreting one language to another always has difficulties, there is little common ground and just one small error could change history - and no doubt has! That's why professionals are appointed to act as translators/interpreters, you can't effectively rely on google translate!

That aside, as I ask, please consider the forum and it's readership when posting comments, links and sources published in a foreign language.

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Post by Jill Havern 14.06.21 9:38

Madeleine McCann suspect Christian B brands cop probe a ‘scandal’ as he speaks for 1st time since being named as suspect


June 14, 2021



MADELEINE McCann suspect Christian B has spoken for the first time since being named as the prime suspect in her disappearance. 
The convicted rapist and child sex offender, 44, spoke out in a letter and slammed the investigation against him as a “scandal”.
Christian B was identified as the prime suspect for Madeleine’s disappearance last year by prosecutors in Germany who said they had “concrete evidence” she was dead. 

In his letter to German media, he attacked investigators and said they “should resign” as they were “persecuting an innocent person”.

It is the first time he has made any public comment on the case involving Madeleine who vanished from a Portuguese holiday apartment in May 2007. 
She was there with parents Kate and Gerry as well as her two siblings and despite various reported sightings around the world there has been no trace of her. 
Prosecutors in Germany are convinced she is dead and they say they have evidence against Christian B.


In his letter, he whined: “Charging an accused is one thing.
“Something completely different – namely, it is an unbelievable scandal – when a public prosecutor starts a public campaign for prejudice before a court case is opened.

“Freedom of expression is not a basic right so that everyone can say and write what they want. freedom of expression does not protect the majority.
“It protects the minority. It does not protect the most logical, most convincing or most popular views, but rather the outsider position.

“I call on the Brunswick public prosecutors Wolters and (Ute) Lindemann to resign from their offices. 

“Both are proving worldwide through my arbitrary condemnation in the past and through their scandalous pre-denial campaign in the present against me as an innocent person that they are not suitable for an office as a lawyer for the honest and trusting German people and you bring shame onto the judiciary.”
Christian B also attached a cartoon to the letter which shows the prosecutors Wolters and Lindemann eating in a restaurant and ordering “Filet Forensics” – a reference to the fact they have no forensic evidence against him. 
The suspect is currently serving seven years for the rape of an elderly woman in Praia da Luz in Portugal’s Algarve coast in 2005 who was attacked in her own home. 

Madeleine vanished from the same town just two years later while on holiday with her parents Kate and Gerry and her siblings. 
Christian B’s letter is dated May 8 and for the first time also reveals he is being held at Oldenburg jail near Bremen and not Wolfenbuttel as thought.

The letter gives no alibi for his whereabouts the time Madeleine vanished and he makes no reference to the pain her parents are going through. 
A source close to him said: “He basically has had enough of how he is being treated by the German judiciary. 

“He was identified publicly by the Proscutor as the main suspect and yet he has not been charged or shown any of the evidence the authorities claim to have against him. 
“He is of the view that they should either put up or shut up. It is not fair the way he is being treated. What happened to innocent until proven guilty which is a fundamental principle?”


https://247newsaroundtheworld.com/news/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-b-brands-cop-probe-a-scandal-as-he-speaks-for-1st-time-since-being-named-as-suspect/

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Post by Jonal 14.06.21 10:23

All he needed to say was, "Find the body and prove I killed her". Smirk optional.

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Post by Silentscope 14.06.21 10:26

Here is the original first report from the Bild with pictures of the note and handwriting/ cartoon.

The Authenticity of these has yet to be confirmed, as it was written in Oldenburg, not Wolfenbüttel. It was never normal that the Staatanwalt would tell anyone where a Prisoner was being held, let alone the Press.
Maybe CB is really in Oldenburg now and was transferred secretly?

https://www.bild.de/news/ausland/news-ausland/fall-maddie-mccann-verdaechtiger-fordert-ruecktritt-von-staatsanwalt-76731002.bild.html#%23%23wt_ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&wt_t=1623662186168

Sorry, I cannot provide a translation at this time as Google is not allowing it for technical reasons.
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Post by Verdi 14.06.21 12:58

'UNBELIEVABLE' Madeleine McCann suspect Christian B brands cop probe a ‘scandal’ as he speaks for 1st time since being named as suspect

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8:17, 14 Jun 2021Updated: 10:18, 14 Jun 2021

MADELEINE McCann suspect Christian B has spoken for the first time since being named as the prime suspect in her disappearance.

The convicted rapist and child sex offender, 44, spoke out in a letter and slammed the investigation against him as a "scandal".

Read our Madeleine McCann live blog for the very latest updates...

Christian B was identified as the prime suspect for Madeleine’s disappearance last year by prosecutors in Germany who said they had "concrete evidence" she was dead.

In his letter to German media, he attacked investigators and said they "should resign" as they were "persecuting an innocent person".

It is the first time he has made any public comment on the case involving Madeleine who vanished from a Portuguese holiday apartment in May 2007.

She was there with parents Kate and Gerry as well as her two siblings and despite various reported sightings around the world there has been no trace of her.

Prosecutors in Germany are convinced she is dead and they say they have evidence against Christian B.

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Christian B's letter called for the German investigators to 'resign' as they were 'persecuting an innocent person'

In his letter, he whined: "Charging an accused is one thing.

"Something completely different - namely, it is an unbelievable scandal - when a public prosecutor starts a public campaign for prejudice before a court case is opened.

"Freedom of expression is not a basic right so that everyone can say and write what they want. Freedom of expression does not protect the majority.

"It protects the minority. It does not protect the most logical, most convincing or most popular views, but rather the outsider position.

"I call on the Brunswick public prosecutors Wolters and (Ute) Lindemann to resign from their offices.

"Both are proving worldwide through my arbitrary condemnation in the past and through their scandalous pre-denial campaign in the present against me as an innocent person that they are not suitable for an office as a lawyer for the honest and trusting German people and you bring shame onto the judiciary."

Christian B also attached a cartoon to the letter which shows the prosecutors Wolters and Lindemann eating in a restaurant and ordering "Filet Forensics" - a reference to the fact they have no forensic evidence against him.

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The suspect is currently serving seven years for the rape of an elderly woman in Praia da Luz in Portugal’s Algarve coast in 2005 who was attacked in her own home.

Madeleine vanished from the same town just two years later while on holiday with her parents Kate and Gerry and her siblings.

Christian B's letter is dated May 8 and for the first time also reveals he is being held at Oldenburg jail near Bremen and not Wolfenbuttel as thought.

The letter gives no alibi for his whereabouts the time Madeleine vanished and he makes no reference to the pain her parents are going through.

A source close to him said: "He basically has had enough of how he is being treated by the German judiciary.

"He was identified publicly by the Proscutor as the main suspect and yet he has not been charged or shown any of the evidence the authorities claim to have against him.

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"He is of the view that they should either put up or shut up. It is not fair the way he is being treated. What happened to innocent until proven guilty which is a fundamental principle?"

It comes after German investigators said Madeleine's disappearance could be solved in "months" after "very interesting tips".

Hans Christian Wolters, who is leading the probe, said his team is "pleased" with how the investigation has progressed over the past year, the Mirror reports.

"We hope we can solve the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, although this will take several months," he said.

"We are pleased with the response to our appeal for witnesses. But ­unfortunately not all our questions have been answered."

Meanwhile, cops are reportedly set to probe a clairvoyant's claim she is buried in a forest just six miles from where she vanished.

Michael Schneider, who has successfully located the remains of several missing people, has given police the exact coordinates of where he thinks her body is in Portugal.

He contacted the BKA – Germany’s equivalent of the FBI – three weeks ago with the details.

They allegedly replied saying: "Your ­information will be appropriately incorporated into our work."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15265523/madeleine-mccann-suspect-police-probe-scandal-speaking-first-time/

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Post by Verdi 14.06.21 13:09

Madeleine McCann suspect breaks silence with letter telling police to "give up"

Convicted paedophile Christian Brueckner, 44, is the prime suspect the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, who went missing during a family holiday in Portugal's Algarve in 2007

ByChris KitchingSenior News Reporter

11:02, 14 JUN 2021Updated11:47, 14 JUN 2021

A German paedophile suspected of abducting and murdering Madeleine McCann has spoken for the first time since he was named a suspect.

Christian Brueckner, 44, has reportedly written a letter slamming the investigation a "scandal", proclaiming his innocence and urging prosecutors leading the case to give up.

He accused prosecutors of bringing "shame" to the German legal system by making "scandalous" statements against him without ever bringing charges in connection with Madeleine's disappearance.

The letter, dated May 8, reportedly was accompanied by a bizarre drawing of two prosecutors ordering "filet forensics" at a restaurant.

Bruckner was last year named the prime suspect in the case, which German prosecutors are treating as a murder investigation.

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This bizarre sketch showing two prosecutors ordering food at a restaurant was included with the letter (Image: BILD Fotoservice)

Madeleine went missing from her family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal, just days before her fourth birthday in May 2007.

Her parents Kate and Gerry had put her and her siblings to bed in the flat before joining friends for dinner at a tapas restaurant nearby.

Madeleine was gone when they returned and has never been found.

German prosecutors claim they have evidence Madeline is dead and they suspect she was abducted and murdered by Brueckner, who has not yet been quizzed.

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The letter written by Brueckner was dated May 8 and obtained by a German tabloid (Image: BILD Fotoservice)

German tabloid Bild reported on Monday that it had obtained a letter written by Brueckner.

He said prosecutors should resign for "persecuting an innocent person".

Brueckner, previously convicted of sexually abusing two young girls in Germany, called the investigation a "scandal" and attacked prosecutors for making statements about him to the press.

He wrote that prosecutors were "unsuitable for office" and "bring shame to the German legal system", Bild reported.

The letter was accompanied by a drawing of prosecutors ordering food in a restaurant.

In speech bubbles in the drawing, one of the characters says "I'll take the filet forensics" and the other replies "Yummy, me too".

It is a possible reference to the fact that investigators have previously admitted they have no forensic evidence in the case.

Brueckner, who is currently in prison, wrote in the letter: "Charging an accused is one thing.

"Something completely different - namely, it is an unbelievable scandal - when a public prosecutor starts a public campaign for prejudice before a court case is opened.

"Freedom of expression is not a basic right so that everyone can say and write what they want. Freedom of expression does not protect the majority.

"It protects the minority. It does not protect the most logical, most convincing or most popular views, but rather the outsider position.

"I call on the Brunswick public prosecutors (Hans Christian) Wolters and (Ute) Lindemann to resign from their offices.

"Both are proving worldwide through my arbitrary condemnation in the past and through their scandalous pre-denial campaign in the present against me as an innocent person that they are not suitable for an office as a lawyer for the honest and trusting German people and you bring shame onto the judiciary."

Brueckner is in prison in Oldenburg, near Bremen, after being sentenced to seven years for raping an elderly woman in her home in Praia da Luz in 2005.

It is the same resort where Madeleine, from Rothley, Leicestershire, went missing about 18 months later.

Earlier this month, prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters told the Mirror he was "pleased" with how the case has progressed and it could be solved in months.

Mr Wolters said prosecutors still had unanswered questions, however.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/maddie-mccann-suspect-speaks-first-24312819

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Post by Jill Havern 14.06.21 13:23

Also in the Telegraph:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/14/german-madeleine-mccann-suspect-brands-police-probe-scandal/

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Post by crusader 14.06.21 13:51

Beautiful handwriting though.
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Post by Verdi 14.06.21 16:07

I wonder he didn't send an email.

Oh no, of course that wouldn't have the same impact as publishing a hand written letter in the German tabloid Bild - would it.

And if that's a genuine Brueckner 'copyright' cartoon he should ditch crime in favour of a career in cartoonery!

Quite lucrative I believe .... and quite legal!

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Post by Silentscope 14.06.21 16:13

The handwriting may be the answer as his signature is different on the letter to the signature on his Personal identity card.

All letters in and out of Prisons are screened so I do not see how this letter escaped the attention of the JVA wherever he is being held.

Access to Brückner is restricted - so how did he get it to the outside?
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Post by crusader 14.06.21 16:23

Please can you post a photo of his signature on his ID card @Silentscope
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Post by Silentscope 14.06.21 17:02

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I wonder if Christian’s brother is in Oldenburg?
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Post by crusader 14.06.21 17:46

Thank you @Silentscope
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Post by crusader 14.06.21 17:57

I would say they were both signed by the same person, the Ch in Christian are the same and the B in Brueckner are the same.
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Post by Silentscope 14.06.21 19:08

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From Brückners wall in his Factory. 
‘My girlfriend has lied and cheated on me, and brought me up to hate.’
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Post by PeterMac 15.06.21 7:24

The broadsheets are now running the story as well.
Interesting that the Mail allowed Comments - all of them negative
The Times has the comments open, but I have been put into Purdah for the moment.

Deliberately anodyne, but that seems to be the only way of getting anything past the censors
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12:10
Now approved ! ! !    Hallelujah.
But it clearly exercised their Legal and McCann-Protection Division for an entire morning.  Almost 7 hours
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Post by Silentscope 15.06.21 7:59

Handwriting expert Werner von Kiedrowski (53) works as a graphologist and type expert in court, supports the police in investigations and is certain: someone like Christian Brückner will finish exactly what he has started.


“It is immediately noticeable that the font is rather small and extremely neat. The size in particular suggests that the man prefers to move in the background and does not want to attract any attention. Such people are usually very precise and petty. "

"Each letter chosen with care"



According to the expert, he can act as neatly as Brückner writes: “Every letter has been chosen with care. This person plans things in a very specific and long-term way. ”He is also certain:“ People with such a handwriting are 300 percent accurate and unwaveringly finish what they started. ”


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Post by PeterMac 15.06.21 8:43

@crusader wrote:I would say they were both signed by the same person, the Ch in Christian are the same and the B in Brueckner are the same.

I tend to the same view
Here they are together. Letter then ID card

The vertical stroke for the C and the dominance of the Ch
with the subsequent fizzling out of the -ris
and the distinctive and perhaps unusual flowing nature of the B
lead me to the same tentative conclusion
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Post by Silentscope 15.06.21 9:19

Even my own signature has changed over twenty years.

The owner of a signature writes it differently every time, a forger would write the same every time because he has trained his hand to do so. 

Still no answer from the State Prosecution so far.
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Post by sharonl 15.06.21 22:26

@Silentscope wrote:Handwriting expert Werner von Kiedrowski (53) works as a graphologist and type expert in court, supports the police in investigations and is certain: someone like Christian Brückner will finish exactly what he has started.


“It is immediately noticeable that the font is rather small and extremely neat. The size in particular suggests that the man prefers to move in the background and does not want to attract any attention. Such people are usually very precise and petty. "

"Each letter chosen with care"




According to the expert, he can act as neatly as Brückner writes: “Every letter has been chosen with care. This person plans things in a very specific and long-term way. ”He is also certain:“ People with such a handwriting are 300 percent accurate and unwaveringly finish what they started. ”


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thinking What a load of nonsense.

If CB didn't want to attract attention, why draft such a letter?
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