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Post by PeterMac on 19.11.20 9:35

I too got some photos taken by tourists in the area at the time.
They do show some interesting things
They were on Flickr. and still are.
The account of the interesting things they show is in the public domain
in Chapters 12,13,14, 15 and 28
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Post by Verdi on 19.11.20 12:44

Mr Wolters said the formal hurdles in the McCann case post-Brexit will get bigger.

He said: “In the EU everything was unified, and there was a uniform legal assistance between the European countries.”

But when the UK leaves he said Germany would have to “make a formal request, which means that we then write a very formal letter and then query everything individually”.

That's not strictly true.

At the time of the Portuguese investigation in 2007/2008, international policing protocol was in existence, hence the application for information by the rogatory processes. It was said they cut corners, using direct contact, in order to save time but somehow I think it was more a case of being compromised, forced, into the situation.

Officers from Leicester police, the CEOP, the diplomatic corps and such like, all rapidly descended on Portuguese soil for a bit of the action. That simple act of interference broke the international policing code of practice before the investigation even got under way.

I wonder just how much was borderline illegal.

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Post by Silentscope on 19.11.20 12:47

Offenbar hatte es einen Zusammenstoß zwischen dem Tatverdächtigen im Mordfall Maddie und Justizangestellten gegeben. Darauf deutet ein laut geführtes Gespräch hin, das der Kieler Rechtsanwalt Friedrich Fülscher, Verteidiger von B., mit Justizangestellten führte.


Nach WELT-Informationen soll ein Justizangestellter in diesem Disput gesagt haben, dass der Mandant „unglücklich gefallen“ sei. Dabei soll er gelacht haben. 
Fülscher wiederum soll verlangt haben, dass „Aufnahmen gelöscht“ werden. Um was für Aufnahmen es sich gehandelt habe, wollte der Anwalt WELT gegenüber nicht sagen.


Auch Fülscher geht davon aus, dass Maddie nicht mehr am Leben ist. Er meint auch zu wissen, dass die Staatsanwaltschaft einen Zeugen für die Anschuldigungen gegen B. hat: den früheren Bekannten Helge B. Dieser soll der Polizei gesagt haben, dass sich Christian B. mit der Tat brüstete. Die Staatsanwaltschaft will zu möglichen Aussagen von Helge B. keine Angaben machen.


Source: Die Welt


Short translation: A Gaurd in the holding Cell has told the Lawyer that CB bumped in to him and he then fell. As he was explaining how CB “unluckily” landed on the floor, the Gaurd laughed. Herr Fülscher has requested the CCTV in the Cell should be ERASED. Fülscher is also working on the basis that Maddie is deceased, and that the only Witness to CB boasting about the case is Helge B.


huh What are they playing at? 
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Post by Verdi on 19.11.20 15:16

Chief prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters said: “We got leads from England, including ones from tourists on holiday in Portugal during this time.

“We got some photos where there might be some interesting things on them.

"There are quite good leads we are following up.”

I wonder who sent Herr Wolter these interesting photographs think

Jim Gamble, former CEOP executive director big grin ?

Jon Corner, friend of the family affraid ?

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Post by Verdi on 19.11.20 15:46


Madeleine McCann suspect's ribs broken 'after guards refused to let him smoke'


Christian Brückner 'fell against wooden cell bed after guards kicked his legs from under him'

By Justin Huggler Berlin 19 November 2020 • 3:18pm

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Christian Brueckner being transferred from hospital on Monday Credit: SplashNews.com

The prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann allegedly suffered two broken ribs when he fell during an altercation with court officials after he was refused permission to smoke.

Christian Brückner was taken to hospital for treatment following the incident in the northern German city of Braunschweig on Monday.

His lawyers have filed a criminal complaint against court officials over the incident, but the full details of what took place have only now begun to emerge.

The incident began when Brückner, who had been transferred to a holding cell ahead of a court appearance in connection with another case, was told he could not smoke, according to an account leaked to Zeit newspaper.

The convicted paedophile and rapist reacted by staging a furious protest, smearing the walls of the cell with yoghurt and blocking the toilet with paper. Officers intervened and in the course of the altercation, Brückner’s legs were kicked from under him and he fell against the wooden bed, breaking two ribs.

The details emerged as Brückner’s application for parole in another case was rejected on Thursday and judges ruled he should remain behind bars.

German authorities have not confirmed what happened inside the courthouse but the account has been backed by Brückner’s lawyers, one of whom claimed he witnessed officers filming with a smartphone as ambulance workers treated his client’s injuries following the incident.

Friedrich Fülscher claimed he asked the officers to stop, but had to call a judge to get them to delete the video.

“The officers were enjoying themselves. In my opinion, that allows one to draw conclusions to be drawn about the actual events, but in any case it was extremely unprofessional and inappropriate,” Mr Fülscher said.

Brückner was identified as a suspect in Madeleine McCann’s disappearance in June. German prosecutors claim they have evidence she is dead and say they are treating the case as a murder investigation, but Scotland Yard still consider it a missing persons inquiry.

The 43-year-old career criminal is currently serving a 21-month sentence for drug offences, and was transferred to the Braunschweig courthouse on Monday ahead of a routine parole hearing.

On arrival he was taken to a holding cell in the courthouse, where officers allegedly taunted him with comments such as “Nice to see you back!” and “We’ve got a very special room for you today, suite number 2!”

According to details leaked to the German press, when he asked if he could smoke, the guards replied, “We decide who gets to smoke here”.

Brückner then staged his protest by smearing the walls with yoghurt and blocking the toilet. Officers moved in to restrain him. They handcuffed him and ordered him to kneel so his legs could be shackled, and when he did not comply his feet were knocked from under him.

“The chances of a restrained person injuring himself in the presence of officials are limited,” Johann Schwenn, another lawyer for Brückner said.

“Unfortunately, an attack by officers in the manner described by our client would not be an isolated case. The presumption of innocence is sometimes difficult for the police and judiciary, especially when it comes to an alleged sex murderer. Then inhibitions fall away.”

The incident comes a week after the Portuguese press reported a leaked memo from their Policia Judiciaria which said they were “shocked” after being briefed on the case by German prosecutors, adding there is “no evidence, just speculation”.

Brückner’s application for parole was rejected on Thursday after judges ruled his early release “could not be justified, taking into account the security interests of the general public”. The court noted he had several previous convictions and had previously broken parole conditions.

Even if he had been granted parole, Brückner would have remained behind bars. He is also facing a seven-year sentence for rape. He has appealed but will be remanded in custody until his appeal is heard.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/11/19/madeleine-mccann-suspects-ribs-broken-guards-refused-let-smoke/
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Tch tch tch - shame on you Mr Telegraph, shame on you!

This is like the proverbial shaggy dog story.

I don't give a kippers do-da about 'he who musn't be named', Christian Brueckner but just leave Madeleine McCann's name out of it! Have you no shame?

Mind, it was jolly decent of the German police to supply him with a mask, knowing his fetish for such facial adornments - before they knocked him to the floor and broke his ribs big grin allegedly!



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Post by Verdi on 19.11.20 20:34


Madeleine McCann suspect, Christian B, denied parole over expected 'relapse'


A German court says it has not found "any stabilising factors that would keep Christian B from committing crimes again".

By Andy Hayes, news reporter

Thursday 19 November 2020 17:28, UK

The suspect in the Madeleine McCann case has been denied parole - partly because he is considered likely to "relapse".

A court in northern Germany said Christian B, as he is known under German privacy laws, has a long criminal record and has violated parole regulations in the past, including those relating to narcotics.

He is currently serving a sentence in Kiel for drug dealing.

The court in Braunschweig said it did not want to be responsible for releasing the convicted paedophile because public safety could be endangered.

"We expect a relapse with heavy crimes from him," it said.

"We haven't found any stabilising factors that would keep Christian B from committing crimes again."

The German drifter is the prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, who was almost four when she vanished from a holiday apartment in a Portuguese holiday resort in 2007.

The 43-year-old had been living nearby and was identified three years ago by German police, who are trying to build enough evidence to charge him.

Braunschweig prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters has said he believes Christian B was responsible for Madeleine's disappearance and that he has evidence she is dead.

He continues to appeal for information about the suspect's movements and Madeleine's disappearance.

Earlier this week, Christian B was injured while being taken to the court hearing.

He sustained rib injuries while officers were putting ankle cuffs on him on Monday, the court said.

He suffered two broken ribs and needed hospital treatment, according to the national newspaper Bild.

The way in which he was shackled and the "following course of events" are being investigated, the court added.

https://news.sky.com/story/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-b-denied-parole-over-expected-relapse-12136443
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What .... Martin the Brunt self-isolating?

Surely no one expected Brueckner to be granted bail - not even Breckner himself. Maybe the matter can be dropped now, at least as regards media interest outside Germany.

Hope springs eternal ....

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Post by AnneBarnard on 19.11.20 21:01

@Verdi wrote:Police in Madeleine McCann case receive 'interesting' pictures from British tourists

EXCLUSIVE: Police claim to have possible new leads in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann as holiday photos might have 'some interesting things on them'


Yeah, and I've got an interesting holiday photo for them:

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Post by sharonl on 19.11.20 21:05

Its a shame that Jim Gamble asked holiday makers to forward their snaps to CEOP and not to the PJ. I just hope that Gamble hasn't passed them to Wolters via Uncle Tony Rickwood.

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Post by Jill Havern on 19.11.20 21:36

@AnneBarnard wrote:Yeah, and I've got an interesting holiday photo for them:

Christian Brueckner:  To be or not to be - Page 16 Smilin10
Out of all the photos of this pair I think this is the one that I find the most repugnant.

How can any parent go for a stroll like this when their 3 year old daughter has just been abducted by a paedophile DIED?

What sort of people are they?

i don\'t know

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Post by Silentscope on 20.11.20 18:29

Developments in the House search in Hannover due to possibly false information.
The son of the Houseowner was removed in handcuffs by the SEK (SWAT) team around 06:30 on Wed 18, followed by the Mother.
The entire House and Garden were being searched due to information being supplied that “bad things happened in the past” at the address.
On completion of the search, nothing was reported to have been found.
Police are not confirming it has anything to do with CB, who is believed to have been a previous tenant.

Source: Calenberger Online News.

https://www.con-nect.de/blaulicht/nachricht/34296-update-was-ist-in-gleidingen-los-grosser-polizeieinsatz.html
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Post by Verdi on 24.11.20 14:41

CELL SMASH Madeleine McCann suspect Christian B ‘refuses to let cell attack lie’ as he ‘sues’ prison guards for ‘breaking his ribs’

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24 Nov 2020, 11:58Updated: 24 Nov 2020, 14:13

THE prime suspect in the abduction of Madeleine McCann is set to bid for compensation following an alleged “cell attack”.

Christian B claims he was left with two broken ribs after a "fight" with prison guards last week.

Now the 43-year-old - who spent one hour in hospital after the incident - allegedly wants an apology and a compo payout.

“He is refusing to let this lie," a source told Sun Online.

"He wants the authorities to say sorry and he wants compensation for the injuries he sustained," the source claimed.

But they added: "The guards in charge of him inside think he is just trying to stir up trouble and play system."

Convicted rapist and paedophile Christian B allegedly started the scuffle after "throwing a tantrum'' in his cell, smearing it with yoghurt and blocking the toilet with loo roll.

A source at the Braunschweig courthouse where the incident happened said: ''He got angry at being filmed and complained.

"He reacted angrily and when he refused to put the shackles on there was a more violent tussle and he hurt himself.''

Speaking to The Sun Online, his lawyer Friedrich Fulscher said Christian B had suffered serious injuries after "dirtying" his cell.

But now a source says that ever since Christian B returned from his short A&E jaunt, "he has made one thing crystal clear - he wants someone to pay for what happened”.

The Sun Online understands the suspect plans to point to the fact a female official was caught filming part of the attack on her mobile phone.

She was later ordered to delete footage by a judge.

“[Christian B] believes this footage was deleted as it would have shown the officers assaulting him," our source continued. "He thinks the woman should be made to come forward and at least say what she saw on oath.”

Mr Fuelscher confirmed Christian B has filed a formal complaint.

But he refused to comment on whether his client was aiming to secure compensation in the future or any other details about his complaint.

Pictures last week showed the convicted rapist getting into an ambulance in ankle shackles.

Guards who restrained him claim he fell, but the convicted sex pest says he was assaulted.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13282613/christian-b-sues-cell-guards/

What rubbish !!!

Christian Brueckner is not the prime suspect in the case of Madeleine McCann's abduction - Madeleine Mccann was not abducted.

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Post by Silentscope on 25.11.20 10:40

Still no further developments in the Hannover house search that the British Press linked to Christian B.

Data is still being viewed by the Police who described the tip off they received as being “thin”. No further information is being given out so far in order to protect the Suspect from coming to harm.

Should it be proved to be False information was supplied to the Police, Oberstadtsanwalt (Chief prosecutor) Herr Klinge warned the suspect may be liable for a punishment between 3 months and 5 years in Prison.

https://www.con-nect.de/blaulicht/archiv-nachricht/34337-gleidingen-keine-beweise-nach-durchsuchung.html
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Post by Verdi on 29.11.20 20:45

NEW CELL Madeleine McCann suspect Christian B to be transferred to maximum security prison ahead of questioning in New Year

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   29 Nov 2020, 15:47Updated: 29 Nov 2020, 15:47

MADELEINE McCann suspect Christian B is moving to a maximum security prison ahead of questioning in the New Year.

The convicted paedophile and rapist 43, is currently serving a 21-month drugs sentence and is in isolation for his own safety.

In January, that term will end and he will be moved from Kiel maximum security prison to one 200 miles south in Lower Saxony at either Celle or Wolfenbuttel.

Both are Category A maximum security.

Christian B has already spent time in Wolfenbuttel when he was on remand ahead of his trial last year for raping a 72-year-old woman in Praia da Luz in 2005 - just two years before Madeleine vanished.

MAXIMUM SECURITY

Judges at Germany's Federal court confirmed the sentence earlier this month and while on remand investigators used an informant to spy on him to gain evidence for their investigation into Madeleine's disappearance.

The move will make it easier for prosecutors based at Braunsweig to question him in connection with the Madeleine case, and two other sex crimes they are trying to pin on him.

Christian B was identified as the prime suspect in the Madeleine disappearance last June by German investigators.

They said they had ''concrete evidence'' she was dead and that he was responsible, although no charges have been brought yet.

'CONCRETE EVIDENCE'

A source close to the case said: ''(Christian B) hasn't been questioned yet in connection with the Madeleine inquiry as the evidence is still being gathered and checked but the idea is to wait until he is closer to where the team are based.

''A 640km round trip (400 miles) every week would waste a lot of time and resources and now we know he will be in prison until 2026 we know where he is and we can get to him easier.

''The feeling is though he won't say anything even when we do see him but at least it will make it easier.''

Prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters told The Sun: ''In Germany, the execution of sentences is basically the federal state in which the conviction took place.

''This also has cost reasons, because each federal state only wants to pay for the execution of sentences for which it is itself responsible.''

Lawyer Friedrich Fulscher, who is defending him and insists the police have the wrong man, said: ''It's very likely he will be transferred in January but I have no comment to make.''

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/uknews/13330977/madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-b-maximum-security-prison/

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Post by Verdi on 29.11.20 20:55

What an utterly disgraceful example of tabloid press reportage.

'CONCRETE EVIDENCE'

A source close to the case said: ''(Christian B) hasn't been questioned yet in connection with the Madeleine inquiry as the evidence is still being gathered and checked but the idea is to wait until he is closer to where the team are based.

''A 640km round trip (400 miles) every week would waste a lot of time and resources and now we know he will be in prison until 2026 we know where he is and we can get to him easier.

''The feeling is though he won't say anything even when we do see him but at least it will make it easier.''

I can't believe I've just read that, what absolute nonsense.

Still, I guess it's a good lead-up to the inevitable twaddle the readers will be subjected to in the course of the next four weeks. Another Christmas passes without the girl - what was her name?  The misery never stops for Kate and Gerry, not only are they living without the toddler but the latest suspect refuses to tell all.

Christmas is coming, the Fund is getting lean - please put some money in our campaign machine. Or a plain brown envelope addressed to Kate and Gerry - Roafley.  It'll get there!

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Post by Verdi on 29.11.20 23:34

The Waily Snail has this to say affraid ..

Madeleine McCann suspect is moved to maximum security former Gestapo guillotine jail ahead of first interrogation about her disappearance in the New Year


   Christian Brueckner is to be moved from prison in Kiel to serve rape sentence
   43-year-old has been serving 21 month sentence on unrelated drugs offence
   He is to serve seven years for the 2005 rape of woman, 72, in Praia da Luz
   That was two years before Madeleine's disappearance from the same resort

By Ross Ibbetson For Mailonline

Published: 22:28 GMT, 29 November 2020 | Updated: 22:34 GMT, 29 November 2020

The chief suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann is being moved to a maximum security former Gestapo guillotine jail ahead of interrogation in the New Year.

Christian Brueckner, 43, a convicted rapist and paedophile, is serving a 21-month sentence on an unrelated drugs matter at a prison in Kiel.

In January, he will be transferred south to the Category A Wolfenbuttel prison to start a seven-year sentence for raping a 72-year-old woman in Praia da Luz in 2005.

Wolfenbuttel was an infamous execution centre used by the Nazis to hang and guillotine deserters, PoWs, and civilians during the Second World War.

Brueckner was previously remanded at the prison ahead of last year's trial for raping the elderly American woman.

She was attacked just two years before Madeleine disappeared from the same Algarve resort.

Earlier this month, a court in Karslruhe rejected Brueckner's appeal against the 2005 rape conviction and confirmed his seven-year sentence.

The move will make it easier for detectives in Braunschweig, around 15 minutes' drive away, to question Brueckner about the Madeleine case, as well as two others.

A judicial source told The Sun: 'Brueckner hasn't been questioned yet in connection with the Madeleine inquiry as the evidence is still being gathered and checked but the idea is to wait until he is closer to where the team are based.

A 640km round trip (400 miles) every week would waste a lot of time and resources and now we know he will be in prison until 2026 we know where he is and we can get to him easier.

'The feeling is though he won't say anything even when we do see him but at least it will make it easier.'

The reason that Brueckner is being moved to a prison in central Germany is because sentences are served in the state that hands them down.

Keeping prisoners is expensive and under Germany's federal system the states are obliged to deal with their own prisoners rather than it being handled by a central judiciary.  

Even though Brueckner is a suspect in the McCann case, prosecutors have said they do not yet have enough evidence to hold him on that case alone.

Madeleine was three years old at the time of her disappearance in 2007 from an apartment where her family was on holiday in Praia da Luz in Portugal's Algarve region.

German authorities in June said they had identified Brueckner, a German citizen, as a suspect in the case and were investigating him on suspicion of murder.

Earlier this month, Brueckner suffered two broken ribs in an incident at a German court and was treated in a hospital, but was then able to return for a hearing that same day, authorities said.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8999197/Madeleine-McCann-suspect-moved-maximum-security-former-Gestapo-guillotine-jail.html

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Post by Verdi on 29.11.20 23:43

I doubt anyone cares a fig about the plight of Christian 'he who can't be named' Bruekner, so they use the name Madeleine McCann every time to keep the story alive.

Oddly enough, the Sun tabloid seems to be the primary source of information between the German authorities and UK press coverage.

The same tabloid that has championed the name McCann since the very beginning of this infernal saga. The Sun has never been very far away from promoting the McCann innocence maskerade.

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Seriously - who in their right mind would rely on the Sun?

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Post by PeterMac on 30.11.20 7:28

Very few comments so far

Helloplaymates, Skeg, United Kingdom, about 8 hours ago
Is there, or is there not any evidence to convict him of her abduction or murder... If not, let it go
To which I tried replying
                  Is there, or is there not, any evidence of her abduction ?
It has been 'moderated"
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Post by Silentscope on 30.11.20 9:26

Whatever happened to the British Lawyers that were being employed by “he who should not be named”?

Or will they only come in to play when he is proved innocent of all dealings in the case of Madeleine McCann?

No idea who they could be...

Enquiring minds would like to know.
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Post by Verdi on 30.11.20 14:57

The intelligent tabloid hashtag makesufinkdunnit, always a day late and a dollar short.  Maybe it's been checking the fiction facts before reporting..

Maddie McCann suspect 'to be moved to former Gestapo jail before interrogation'


German paedophile Christian Brueckner, who is suspected of abducting and killing Madeleine McCann, will be moved to the Wolfenbuttel or Celle maximum security prison in January, it is reported.

ByChris KitchingSenior News Reporter

   13:43, 30 NOV 2020

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/maddie-mccann-suspect-to-moved-23091982


... the Sun reported.

That would of course be Nick Pisa, chief liaison reporter for the German authorities.

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Post by Silentscope on 30.11.20 15:55

Christian Brückners new Cell is being decorated for his transfer so that he will feel “at Home”.

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Post by updown on 30.11.20 17:46

Would you not find it interesting though, if he were charged and brought to court?  Key witnesses being cross-examined for instance
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Post by sharonl on 30.11.20 20:29

@updown wrote:Would you not find it interesting though, if he were charged and brought to court?  Key witnesses being cross-examined for instance

I would pay good money to see that. The tapas 9 and the rest of the coverup brigade all giving their differing stories.

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Post by Verdi on 01.12.20 0:18

So the investigative journalistic intelligence flows unabated..

Madeleine McCann prosecutors admit they are wary of charging their prime suspect

EXCLUSIVE: Chief prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters said that if they file charges and the suspect is acquitted, then the case will be closed forever because of German laws

Madeleine McCann prosecutors admit they are wary of charging their prime suspect because of Germany’s strict double-jeopardy law.

Speaking exclusively to The Mirror, chief prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters said: “If we file charges and he is acquitted, then the case is dead for ever.

“In Germany, once you have been acquitted, you cannot be charged again, at least only in very exceptional cases.

“If we now are hasty and he was acquitted because the court said ‘Ah, we still have a few doubts’ then we would not be able to get him later.”

Speaking from the public prosecution office in Braunschweig, Lower Saxony, Mr Wolters added: “Therefore we want to collect as much evidence as possible.”

Paedophile Brueckner, 43, was named as the prosecution’s prime suspect in the Madeleine case, which Germany is treating as a murder investigation.

Mobile phone records place him in the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz on the night Madeleine vanished in May 2007, a few days before her fourth birthday.

A case in Bremen illustrated how rigid the German double-jeopardy law can be.

A taxi driver was acquitted of raping and killing a child but years later advances in forensic technology meant his DNA could be matched to a sperm sample found at the crime scene.

Mr Wolters said: “Here it was completely clear that this taxi driver was the perpetrator, but it was not possible to charge him again… so tragic.”

Brueckner is currently in jail serving a 21-month sentence for drug-running.

It ends in January 2021 but he has already been sentenced to seven years for raping a pensioner in Praia da Luz.

He is appealing this conviction.

Brueckner’s defence lawyer Friedrich Fuelscher declined to comment.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/madeleine-mccann-prosecutors-admit-wary-23094434

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The truth matters not one whit. The ethics of good honest journalism sailed off into the unknown with the Titanic, truth and accuracy are no longer of any importance - just as long as the story sells.

I think it a disgrace but I know many people hang on to every word, or only read for the gossip with no consideration for accuracy.

Reminder: The German authorities are not Madeleine McCann's prosecutors, Christian Brueckner is not the prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and Madeleine McCann was not abducted.

Start with the basic principles and work out from there.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/

That is how true investigative journalism works.

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Post by crusader on 01.12.20 10:36

Brueckner was tried and found guilty in Germany of raping an elderly American lady in Portugal wasn't he?

Did the German's have to get permission from the Portuguese courts to try him in Germany?

Why wasn't he tried in Portugal where the crime was committed?

Does this mean the Germans think they are within their rights to try him in Germany for involvement in Madeleine's disappearance.

He is allready going to be serving 7 years for the rape of the American lady.
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Post by Silentscope on 01.12.20 11:28

@crusader

It is usual in Germany that its Citizens are not extradited to stand trial in countries outside of its borders. That is a constitutional fact, sorry.

It protects suspects from torture, coercion and the death penalty which is still in use in some countries around the world. 

No disrespect to Portugal. Or America.

At the moment the “ermittlungsverfahren” the Investigation phase is not yet completed. Until CB is questioned, then charged, it will drag on...

Then it will come to a meeting of the Judges, Prosecutors and Defending parties where they will discuss if they have enough evidence to get an conviction or not. The “swischenverfahren”. This stops any time wasting of the Judiciary due to bad cases being presented.

If they then agree that they will more likely get a Conviction than an Acquittal, then it will go to Court in the “Hauptverfahren”. The main event if you will.

He is not going anywhere soon.
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