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Post by JimbobJones on 01.08.20 17:49

Thanks for posting that  Jill, it seems the people behind this entire charade  purpose is to TAKE LEGAL OWNERSHIP of the entire human race. To remove natural law and human sovereignity. It explains everything.
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Post by Verdi on 01.08.20 21:47

School attendance and absence

Legal action to enforce school attendance

Local councils and schools can use various legal powers if your child is missing school without a good reason. They can give you:

a Parenting Order
an Education Supervision Order
a School Attendance Order
a fine (sometimes known as a ‘penalty notice’)

You can be given one or more of these but the council does not have to do this before prosecuting you.
Parenting Order

This means you have to go to parenting classes. You’ll also have to do what the court says to improve your child’s school attendance.
Education Supervision Order

If the council thinks you need support getting your child to go to school but you’re not co-operating, they can apply to a court for an Education Supervision Order.

A supervisor will be appointed to help you get your child into education. The local council can do this instead of prosecuting you, or as well.
School Attendance Order

You’ll get a School Attendance Order if the local council thinks your child is not getting an education.

You have 15 days to provide evidence that you’ve registered your child with the school listed in the order or that you’re giving them home education. If you do not, you could be prosecuted or given a fine.

Fine

Your local council can give each parent a fine of £60, which rises to £120 each if you do not pay within 21 days. If you do not pay the fine after 28 days you may be prosecuted for your child’s absence from school.

Check your local council’s rules on when you can be fined.
Prosecution

You could get a fine of up to £2,500, a community order or a jail sentence up to 3 months. The court also gives you a Parenting Order.

https://www.gov.uk/school-attendance-absence/legal-action-to-enforce-school-attendance

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Where does that leave you Mr Prime Minister?

You've interrupted the nations education by forcing children to stay away from school. Are you therefore subject to the same penalties, or are you exempt from prosecution for some reason?

I think parents and carers are entitled to compensation.

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Post by mezzyd on 01.08.20 22:17

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@JimbobJones wrote:I hope everybody realises this "test" they are using to diagnose us is totally fraudulent. The process of amplification they use in the test can tell them whatever result they want in advance. The more cycles of amplification they decide to use the more "positive" test results. When they decide the "vaccine" has worked they will use less amplification and the results will show less positive results. It is a total fraud.

An analogy for this pcr "test" might be counting the number of shops that sell hats to determine the population size of a country. Totally absurd, totally inaccurate.
@ JimbobJones

This sounds very interesting and indeed concerning.

However, you wrote: "I hope everybody realises this "test" they are using to diagnose us is totally fraudulent".

Well, I don't know this - but I would like to know if it is true and why you say this.

I have myself tried to research the whole method of testing and what test(s) they use, how accurate it is/they are, whether it is the same test all over the world, does it test just for COVID-19 or for other viruses, whether the test is manufactured by different vaccine companies and if they have different formulae, chemical composition etc. etc.

In other words, I want the hard facts.

Could you please be so good as to give us your sources for your belief/assertions, as many as possible would be helpful.

I am sure many of us, like the doctors and politicians it seems, are still very much in the dark about the whole COVID-19 issue, so please would everyone link to the sources for their statements on this forum, it would be very helpful.


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Post by Verdi on 02.08.20 0:44

Millions more could be told to stay at home and shield

Boris Johnson and his officials have wargamed ‘nuclear’ options to prevent a second national lockdown this winter

Tim Shipman

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Sunday August 02 2020, 12.01am BST, The Sunday Times

Boris Johnson has ordered officials to draw up “nuclear” plans to prevent another nationwide lockdown, which are expected to mean that millions more people over the age of 50 will be asked to stay at home if local crackdowns like the one in the northwest last week fail to curb a second wave of the coronavirus.

The prime minister convened a war gaming exercise last Wednesday in No 10 that could also pave the way for draconian travel restrictions in and out of London and at Britain’s airports if the virus flares up in the capital.

When the prime minister paused the lifting of the lockdown last week he compared the prospect of a full national lockdown to a “nuclear deterrent” that should be used only as a last resort. But behind the scenes aides say he is demanding tactical nuclear weapons in his armoury to combat Covid-19.

At 4pm on Wednesday, Johnson and his closest aides gathered in the state dining room at No 10. For an hour they mapped out options for the next few months. Simon Case, head of the Covid-19 taskforce, led a discussion of three fictional but realistic scenarios that reflected Whitehall’s fears about what could happen next. “There were three whiteboards in different corners of the room,” one of those present said.

In their tabletop war game, Johnson and Rishi Sunak, the chancellor, first discussed an outbreak in northwestern England, then an outbreak in London and finally a general increase in infections nationally.

Under the first scenario, local authorities in the northwest saw a persistent rise in infections and the measures taken by councils failed to stem the tide. Johnson and Sunak agreed that the first lever pulled should be additional restrictions on household interactions. “There must be quick, decisive action,” Johnson said.

That evening, the fictional scenario became reality as the prime minister was presented with Office for National Statistics data showing a 66% rise in infections in a fortnight, with increases in Blackburn, Bradford and Manchester.

At 6pm on Thursday he convened a Covid operations meeting in the cabinet room. Matt Hancock, the health secretary, arrived straight from a “gold command” meeting where he had been presented with a slide showing test and trace data.

It revealed that the top two ways the virus was transmitted were by an infected person visiting the subject’s house, and by that person visiting an infected friend. Going to work was only third on the list and going out shopping lower still. Armed with that evidence, the ministers agreed to ban more than one household meeting indoors in nine local authority areas, home to 4.5 million people.

It was the most striking example of the government’s local “Whac-A-Mole” strategy for containing the virus.

Wednesday’s war game also featured a sobering session on what might happen if such an approach was needed in London, where the number of cases is rising, though not as fast as in the northwest.

In the second scenario, the virus spread primarily through infected people flying into London’s airports, “similar to what we had with the first wave with people coming back from skiing holidays”, an official said.

Spain and Luxembourg have already been added to the “red list” of countries from where travellers have to quarantine on arrival in the UK as infection rates soar. Belgium is likely to join them soon.

In the war game, Johnson and Sunak agreed that in the event of a London outbreak, it might be necessary to scrap the entire “green list” of countries exempt from quarantine, meaning all arrivals would have to self-isolate for 14 days. “We’d need quick guillotine decisions,” one of those present said.

In March, the prime minister considered, and rejected, plans to lock down the capital harder than the rest of the country. But in Wednesday’s war game he agreed that if infections rose significantly, overnight stays in London would be banned, Londoners could be subject to stay-at-home orders, and close-contact services such as hairdressers would close. “The challenge in London is how quickly people move around on the trains and Tube,” a source said. “It would potentially spread much quicker than in other areas so you’d have to be quicker on the regional hammer in London.”

Most controversially, the ministers concluded that people would be advised not to travel in and out of the capital, raising the prospect of restrictions on those inside the M25. “That would be the border point,” an insider said.

Johnson and his team concluded that schools would stay open but secondary schools would move to a rota system and that it would be necessary to prevent all households nationwide from mixing.

The third and final discussion was on what Whitehall officials called the “frog boiling” scenario, when the prevalence of the virus increases gradually but inexorably across the entire country, with local lockdowns failing to prevent “many local fires becoming a wider conflagration”.

Johnson sanctioned work to go ahead on plans for “enhanced shielding”, which would see the number of people judged clinically vulnerable and urged to stay at home increased from the current total of 2.2 million to “a much wider group”.

Yesterday, more than two million vulnerable people were released from shielding in England, Scotland and Northern Ireland.

This “segmentation approach” would see many more people receive a tailored letter in September or October, “before it gets cold”, spelling out their risk factors. Health issues and age would be taken into account — an approach that is likely to mean that a large number of people aged between 50 and 70 would be urged to stay out of harm’s way. Personalised advice is possible because scientists have better evidence about which factors most effect whether people survive Covid-19.

“At the moment, shielding is binary, you’re either on this list or off it,” said one of those familiar with the thinking. “But we know there isn’t a simple cut-off at age 70. People would get a personalised risk assessment. The risk rises after 50, quite gently to start with, and then accelerates after age 70.”

It is likely that this would mean people being put in tiered risk levels but would be controversial because it could be depicted as quarantine by age. Most of those affected, if the shielding plans are adopted, are likely to be over 65.

Johnson has ordered the Covid-19 taskforce to work up options but officials stress that the plan is not yet policy.

It would be used only if local lockdowns did not work but Johnson’s team is conscious that, without a vaccine, they might need a new approach if they are to prevent “firewall” national lockdowns every six months. In private, Johnson and Hancock have a double-act joke. “I’m hoping for the best,” the prime minister says. “And I’m preparing for the worst,” Hancock responds.

One big thing is clear from last week’s events: ministers are prepared to dial down social interactions to ensure that schools can open again next month and shops can keep doing business.

The evidence of where and how the virus is being passed on has finally ended the “hawks and doves” war between Sunak and Hancock that has raged for months. “This is the first week when Matt and Rishi have been making the same arguments,” a cabinet source said. In short, protecting lives and the economy now require the same approach.

Underlying fears about social transmission are sensitivities about Asian families in places such as Blackburn, who often live more closely with relatives and neighbours than do other communities. A No 10 official told one external figure last week that there might have to be new restrictions on churches to prevent the spread of Covid-19 in mosques. “They could close down all places of worship again because they don’t want to be seen to be discriminating against Muslims,” a source said.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/millions-more-could-be-told-to-stay-at-home-and-shield-5w76wxlhs

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Post by Verdi on 02.08.20 0:47

WHO is priming you Mr Minister? Enough is enough .... now bugger off.

Do you fully understand the government's social distancing guidance?

Yeh, pretty much poke .

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Post by Verdi on 02.08.20 0:51

Oh look, 'the virus' and 'he who can't be named' rolled into one..

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Post by BlueBag on 02.08.20 8:04

A No 10 official told one external figure last week that there might have to be new restrictions on churches to prevent the spread of Covid-19 in mosques. “They could close down all places of worship again because they don’t want to be seen to be discriminating against Muslims,” a source said.
Just a cotton-picking second!!


When did they open them?


Are they saying Mosques were open whilst Churches were closed? 


My local Churches have not been open.
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Post by BlueBag on 02.08.20 8:22

Protest march in Germany against masks.

Media said it was thousands... but the destination square was full and it holds a million.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/protest-coronavirus-restrictions-berlin-a4514261.html

There is hope.

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Post by BlueBag on 02.08.20 8:39

@BlueBag wrote:
A No 10 official told one external figure last week that there might have to be new restrictions on churches to prevent the spread of Covid-19 in mosques. “They could close down all places of worship again because they don’t want to be seen to be discriminating against Muslims,” a source said.
Just a cotton-picking second!!

When did they open them?

Are they saying Mosques were open whilst Churches were closed? 

My local Churches have not been open.
I now realise the Church was open since 8th July... limited numbers and registration required.
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Post by JimbobJones on 02.08.20 8:47

Regarding mr Johnson, does anybody else think that the woman he has had his latest sprog with . . . . . . . . might just be there to keep tabs on him ? She seems strange to me. Has she been put in there as their own "nuclear deterrent" if he does not do as he is told?
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Post by Jill Havern on 02.08.20 9:28

@JimbobJones wrote:Regarding mr Johnson, does anybody else think that the woman he has had his latest sprog with . . . . . . . . might just be there to keep tabs on him ? She seems strange to me. Has she been put in there as their own "nuclear deterrent" if he does not do as he is told?
Been 'put in there' to keep tabs on him? What, and have a baby with him? It's a bit extreme isn't it?

It's a bit like saying Meagain Markle has been 'put in there' with Harry to help bring down the Monarchy winkwink

Oh wait...

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Post by PeterMac on 02.08.20 9:49

Does that explain the outbreaks in Northern cities ?
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Post by crusader on 02.08.20 10:58

Speaking as a lassie from Lancashire, I am bemused by the reports of new outbreaks in my area. According to the latest figures, 19th to 25th July, 119 new cases identified an increase of 35 from previous week.

1 death registered over the last week, an increase from none the previous week.

The identified cases are not being hospitalized, just told to isolate.

Stop the bloody testing and start living.
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Post by BlueBag on 02.08.20 11:35

@crusader wrote:Speaking as a lassie from Lancashire, I am bemused by the reports of new outbreaks in my area. According to the latest figures, 19th to 25th July, 119 new cases identified an increase of 35 from previous week.

1 death registered over the last week, an increase from none the previous week.

The identified cases are not being hospitalized, just told to isolate.

Stop the bloody testing and start living.
Absolutely!

There is no logic to any of this.

However I think this latest one is an attempt to stir trouble against the Muslims and I must say it's working from the people (friends, neighbours and family) who have been moaning about Muslims.

Why are people so thick?
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Post by crusader on 02.08.20 11:48

The smell of fear is rife among the sheep.

The Government don't want anyone thinking for themselves, it must be discouraged at all costs, and it is working.

Fear is the key.
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Post by JimbobJones on 02.08.20 12:16

Mmmmm, face bacon !

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Post by JimbobJones on 02.08.20 12:28

They CANNOT stop the testing . . . . If they did that IT WOULD ALL BE OVER for them.
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Post by Verdi on 02.08.20 13:41

What will be the long term repercussions of wearing face masks?

It is not healthy.


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Post by mezzyd on 02.08.20 14:33

@Verdi wrote:What will be the long term repercussions of wearing face masks?

It is not healthy.

As I understand it, the immune system functions better when exposed to a variety of contacts similar to the “use it or lose it” maxim, therefore face masks/excess sanitising/social distancing could all be combining to weaken our immune systems.

Face masks are warm & moist, an ideal breeding ground for bacteria or any other microbes to multiply, so that the wearer can breathe back in a more harmful version of their respiratory waste.

Face masks may change the normal proportions of oxygen/carbon dioxide which the wearer may inhale, which may restrict the oxygen supply to vital organs.

There may also be psychological harms.

The virus is apparently smaller than the holes in masks, which also seem to be completely useless in terms of infection control, judging by the way most wearers are fidgeting with them.

This is why I don’t wear face masks - the law allows for certain reasonable excuses, which includes fear of harm & severe distress.

NHS services appear to be severely restricted at the moment, which is why I think I need to take care of my own health & not put it at risk by wearing a mask.

The document produced for a SAGE meeting in July, concerning the forthcoming winter, talked about how to make mask-wearing more normal, eg within households. Therefore I think it would be much better to resist this imposition now, rather than waiting until they make a new law requiring them to be worn all day.
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Post by JimbobJones on 02.08.20 14:50

EVERYBODY needs to STOP COMPLYING RIGHT NOW.  There is no point putting any logical arguments forward when you are dealing with the dishonest. The time for reasoning is OVER. They already know we are right, they don't care.

DO NOT TAKE THEIR "TEST". DO NOT WEAR MASKS. DO NOT TAKE THEIR VACCINE.
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Post by crusader on 02.08.20 15:21

I refuse to wear a face mask, I cant even wear a roll neck sweater without feeling suffocated. As a result I was refused admission to many shops in Buxton on Friday. Their loss, I was even accosted by a very agressive couple for not wearing one.

Luckily the supermarkets I use dont insist on it.
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Post by BlueBag on 02.08.20 15:36

Katie is right.
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Post by BlueBag on 02.08.20 15:39

@crusader wrote:I refuse to wear a face mask, I cant even wear a roll neck sweater without feeling suffocated. As a result I was refused admission to many shops in Buxton on Friday. Their loss, I was even accosted by a very agressive couple for not wearing one.

Luckily the supermarkets I use dont insist on it.
If you say you are exempt that should be the end of it.

"would cause severe distress" is an exemption.

You don't have to prove it - doctors notes not required.

That's mine -  and it's true - not had to use it in my 6 shop visits so far.

Complying with tyranny causes me severe distress.
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