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Post by barry stanley on 06.08.20 21:45

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Why is this link allowed? It should be removed. It is disgusting and graphic. Barry Stanley
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Post by BlueBag on 07.08.20 7:25

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Why is this link allowed? It should be removed. It is disgusting and graphic. Barry Stanley
There is a warning on the link.

I think we need to know what their world is like.
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Post by barry stanley on 07.08.20 9:07

there is nothing in this topic re. Epstein that contributes to establishing the truth of Madelene's disappearance. 
So far as the link is concerned it is surely illegal in showing children with their hands bound behind their backs.
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Post by BlueBag on 07.08.20 9:59

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:there is nothing in this topic re. Epstein that contributes to establishing the truth of Madelene's disappearance. 
So far as the link is concerned it is surely illegal in showing children with their hands bound behind their backs.
This topic is about Epstein and not Madeleine.

We discuss many things on this forum.

Thanks for the concern though.
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Post by Guest on 08.08.20 22:47

@Verdi wrote:I've taken a screenshot of this posted on the wrong thread because I think it worthy of comment.

The Strange World of Jeffrey Epstein - Page 21 Scree819

Lady Colin Campbell is not a disgusting person, what she says is 100% spot-on.  Epstein and his clan are not paedophiles, they have a penchant for teenagers.  This is nothing new.

When my brother was 23 years he met a girl who was 14, they married seven years later - no way was he considered to be a paedophile.  Also I once worked with a charming young lady who met her husband to be when she was 14 - he was a London copper.  No way was he a paedophile.

Young men used to watch schoolgirls playing netball because they like the display of navy blue knickers.  Love and lust make the world go round.

I'll wager these teenagers know exactly what they're doing when seduced by money and all that goes with it.  Just the same as groupies who follow pop and rock bands around in the hope of copping off with one.  

No good crying and running to mummy when things go wrong.

This moralistic Victorian (they were probably the worst offenders) attitude has been brought on by contemporary do-gooders and religious bigots - hiding behind the real unresolved problem of child abuse.  Children who can't say yes or no.

Now .... call me disgusting waiting
I am not sure if you are serious!?! It is not the point what name you give to this phenomenon. The disgusting tactics here: grooming, targeting vulnerable children (not of legal age, several as young as 12 years) cornering them and ordering them to prostitute themselves and the huge age difference between victims on the one side and the pimps and users on the other side make this WRONG. Call it pedophilia or just plain abuse, it is WRONG.
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Post by Verdi on 22.10.20 16:16

Epstein: Ghislaine Maxwell denies knowledge of abuse

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US sex offender Jeffrey Epstein's former girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell said she never witnessed "inappropriate underage activities" by him, according to transcripts of a 2016 deposition.

The deposition was made in a now-settled civil defamation lawsuit brought by one of the late financier's accusers, Virginia Giuffre.

Ms Maxwell had long fought to keep the testimony secret.

She will go on trial in a criminal case next year and has pleaded not guilty.

She is accused of helping Epstein traffic and sexually abuse underage girls and of perjury for having denied involvement in any such scheme when she gave her deposition under oath.

Who was Jeffrey Epstein?
Who is Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein's ex-girlfriend?

The 58 year old has been in custody since her arrest in July. If convicted, she could be sentenced to up to 35 years in prison.
What does the deposition say?

Transcripts of the deposition were released on Thursday under the orders of US District Judge Loretta Preska.

Ms Maxwell had fought to keep the documents under wraps. Her lawyers argued that releasing it would violate her constitutional right against self-incrimination and could impede her right to a fair trial next year. They said she had believed the deposition would remain confidential.

In the transcripts, Ms Maxwell repeatedly denies hiring anyone under the age of 18 for Epstein.

"I never saw any inappropriate underage activities with Jeffrey ever," she said.

"All the time that I have been in the house I have never seen, heard, nor witnessed, nor have reported to me that any activities took place, that people were in distress, either reported to me by the staff or anyone else," she said.

Ms Giuffre alleges that Ms Maxwell recruited her, and says Epstein kept her as a "sex slave" with Maxwell's assistance.

Referring directly to Ms Giuffre, Ms Maxwell said: "I never ever at any single time at any point ever at all participated in anything with Virginia and Jeffrey. And for the record, she is an absolute total liar."

Asked if she trained Ms Giuffre to recruit other women to perform sexual massages, Ms Maxwell said: "It′s absurd and her entire story is one giant tissue of lies."

Ms Maxwell said she had "no idea" how old Ms Giuffre was when she met Epstein.
Who is Ghislaine Maxwell?

Ms Maxwell is the daughter of the late disgraced UK newspaper tycoon Robert Maxwell, his ninth and youngest child.

Born on Christmas Day in 1961 outside Paris, Ms Maxwell is Oxford-educated and is said to speak several languages,

A well-connected socialite, she is said to have introduced Epstein to many of her wealthy and powerful friends, including Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew.

Friends said that although Ms Maxwell and Epstein's romantic relationship lasted only a few years, she continued to work with him long afterward, the Washington Post reports.
Ghislaine Maxwell leaves the Parish Church of St Michael in Compton Chamberlayne following a wedding in September 2000

"She had an upbringing and taste and knew how to run a house and a boat and how to entertain," an acquaintance was quoted by the UK's Daily Telegraph as saying. "You can't buy that. You can't buy access, either."

In a Vanity Fair profile published in 2003, Epstein said Ms Maxwell was not a paid employee, but rather his "best friend".

In court documents, former employees at the Epstein mansion in Palm Beach describe her as the house manager, who oversaw the staff, handled finances and served as social co-ordinator, the Post reports.
What are the charges she faces?

Prosecutors allege that between 1994 and 1997, Ms Maxwell helped Epstein groom girls as young as 14. They have said that they expect "one or more victims" to testify.

Four of the charges Ms Maxwell faces relate to the years 1994-97 when she was, according to the indictment, among Epstein's closest associates and also in an "intimate relationship" with him. The other two charges are allegations of perjury in 2016.

The indictment says Ms Maxwell "assisted, facilitated, and contributed to Epstein's abuse of minor girls by, among other things, helping Epstein to recruit, groom and ultimately abuse victims known to Maxwell and Epstein to be under the age of 18".

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