The Strange World of Jeffrey Epstein

Will he be 'asked' to resign his 'roles' in relation to the various military services?
What member of the military is going to want him as a commander-in-chief?


Basically he will effectively be a member of the royal family in name only.
Since he will be losing his money for royal duties, I wonder if the Queen will make up that deficit out her own money?
If has to live off his pension, he is going to struggle big time.
He won't be able to support his daughters or fergie to the lifestyle they have become used to although their husbands can do that.
Fergie won't be alone now as pariah to the family, will we see andrew turning up to the odd family occasion accompanied by fergie gurning for all she is worth?
He won't even be able to do what she did which is become an ambassador for some company's product such as Weight Watchers of one of the TV  shopping channels.

It will be even worse if it can be proven beyond all doubt he had sex with an underage girl.
There will be no coming back from that, think rolf harris.

My main concern is that he will self harm especially if there is conclusive proof and the victim was under 15.
He would do jail time and would need to be kept in solitary for his own protection.

Can the Queen remove his title as Prince?
I think she can remove the HRH as she did for diana and fergie as they were both commoners initially before marriage.
Could the Queen make andrew a commoner?
Could andrew do the right thing and abdicate his title as a prince?
How would that affect his daughters?
Who cares how it would affect fergie?
Andrew would have no active roles in anything, he would end up sitting around at home maybe a bit of gardening or reading.
Does he play golf or any other sport?
Would he still have a security team, presumably paid for by the Queen?
He is going to have a lonely retirement as no one would want to be associated with him.
After his interview and all the backlash since regarding him having no sympathy for the victims, he is going to be in a dark place, it will be worse if more evidence came out especially given the claims of secret video and photographs as epstein was known to do both i suspect for his own entertainment and for blackmail purposes.
I wonder how many high ranking politicians, business men, royals etc now have a really squeaky bum?
Maxwell could try to use the videos etc as a tool to try and get a plea deal?
If she actually took part in the abuse physically she would be in deep trouble whether it was 'training' them or otherwise.
She would be facing a really long sentence in America.
I wonder if she would face charges in other countries?
Could andrew face charges in other countries?

Time will tell, in the mean time i hope he has some form of support to stop him self harming.

Hobs wrote:
Time will tell, in the mean time i hope he has some form of support to stop him self harming.

Yes quite. They're only allegations at the moment, but he knows what's true. And it must be a terrible thing for him to have let the Queen and his father down so badly in their latter years.

Meanwhile,

PeterMac wrote:Interesting comments in this article
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7716867/AMANDA-PLATELL-Emily-Maitlis-showed-female-TV-species-far-deadlier-male.html

particularly this bit . . .

Maitlis was magnificent. Calm, cool, constrictor-like in her questioning. Had she studied The Jungle Book’s python Kaa to perfect the effortless manner in which she beguiled and trapped the Duke? Poor old Andy never stood a chance.
I wonder how it would have turned out if her Newsnight predecessor, brutal inquisitor Jeremy Paxman, had taken the chair. Man-spreading and ego-parading, too confrontational by half, he could never have prised out of the Duke what Maitlis did.


We remember the difference between Paxman's interview with GM, and the way the Portuguese girl, Sandra, got right under their skins.  
GM thought himself intellectually superior. But wasn't.
Just as here.

Maitlis is establishment devious... ask Dennis Skinner.

She has been sent in to make Andrew the scapegoat.

This interview has the backing of our elite.

I won't be at all surprised if Andrew has an accident... or accidentally kills himself... of accidentally commits suicide... or his driver does...

I think he will be sacrificed for the sake of the monarchy. I will be surprised if the Royal wagons circle him. The Firm is more important than one Prince.

The Queen has cancelled Prince Andrew's birthday bash...

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Infamous photo of Prince Andrew and Virginia Roberts likely real: expert

An infamous photo of Prince Andrew with his arm around a 17-year-old Virginia Roberts is probably real, a leading image doctoring expert told the Sunday Times London.
Hany Farid, a professor of digital forensics and image analysis at University of California, Berkeley said that while he couldn’t be 100% certain, the photos was almost certainly legit.
“I don’t see any obvious signs of manipulation,” he told the paper.
“The lighting and pose of the head seem consistent with the body and scene suggesting that it is also unlikely that this is Prince Andrew’s head spliced onto another person’s body,” he added. “The image was clearly taken with a flash (you can see the reflection of the flash in the window and there is the red-eye). You can also see the strong cast shadow for the two people on the right onto the wall behind them.”
In an interview with the BBC last week, the royal appeared to imply the photo might have been doctored.
“I have absolutely no memory of that photograph,” he insisted. “I’m afraid to say that I don’t believe that photograph was taken in the way that has been suggested.”
Andrew’s relationship with disgraced pedophile Jeffrey Epstein has created a deepening crisis for the British royal family. This week, his mother, Queen Elizabeth II, formally relieved Andrew of his royal duties.

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PeterMac wrote:Strange parallels.
The allegedly UNCROPPED version of the photo has now popped up, and is in the Mail today.
I wonder if the EXIF metadata are still attached  ?

I have no idea but I wonder if the painting on the right is sex related.

Apparently he had sex things all over the place (including the soap).

The Mail speculates that it's a post-impressionist painting.

So why is no one asking Ghislaine Maxwell any questions?

How do you know they aren't?

Apparently, she's lying low. 

Creepy woman, IMO.

Yes, I remember.

I think she and JE "arranged / staged" that photo.

Ladyinred wrote:How do you know they aren't?

Apparently, she's lying low. 

Creepy woman, IMO.

All I know is that I know that no one I know knows if the people in the know are asking her what she knows.

She's lying very very low... we are talking minus nano-meters.

Here's what I think... she was involved in a sting on high-profile people, ultimately led by Mossad (who her father belonged to.. go on google it...).

It's just what I think... I'm probably wrong. 

Yeah... sorry... I'm wrong so don't kill me.

LOL...Not saying you're wrong, just asking!  Who do you know that might know?

Mossad?  Fascinating, that didn't occur to me.

Repulsive people.

Robert Maxwell... Mossad... oh yeah.

I wasn't aware that Robert Maxwell was involved in this.  I thought he had died several years ago

BlueBag wrote:Robert Maxwell... Mossad... oh yeah.

The Assassination of Robert Maxwell
Israel's Superspy.
By Gordon Thomas & Martin Dillon.
It's a good read.

Just read a synops is of the book.  Breathtaking.

PeterMac wrote:

Someone's found it and just posted it on twitter
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