Re: FIND MADELEINE FUND - NO STONE UNTURNED - All reports here

by **Jill Havern** 23.09.11 20:02

Smokeandmirrors wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] Surprising that the substantial family home has not been downsized in order for the McCanns to be able to add more to the fund from their own pockets.

by **tigger** 23.09.11 20:08

Molly wrote:Just a thought, wondering if HM Revenue are happy with the audited accounts. There have been many comments relating to the lack of disclosure, I am sure that a once over from the Revenue would be very reassuring

I just read the post on the fundraising dinner in 2010. Happy days! I'm pretty sure they can't do that anymore, doubt very much if there are many celebrities left to take part.

by **PeterMac** 25.09.11 10:52

Cherry wrote:Sunday January 17,2010
By James Murray and Tracey Kandohla
MCCANNS' STAR-FILLED PARTY TO BOOST FUND -EXPRESS
DEFIANT Kate and Gerry McCann will mark the 1,000th day since their daughter disappeared with a celebrity packed £150-a-head fundraising dinner and auction at a top London venue. {Heavily Snipped}
Money will be raised through ticket sales and a charity auction. Half the profits, expected to exceed £100,000, will go to Madeleine’s Fund, which currently stands at about £400,000, with the other half split between two other charities.
A close friend of the McCanns, who live in Rothley, Leicestershire, said: “Kate and Gerry are hoping to raise as much money as possible to help them and two other charities.

I had missed the calculations here.
1 The celebs paid £ 150 a head to attend. Much of that would be for venue, food, champagne, New Zealand Chardonnay and so on. There might be £ 20 a head left over for the cause, though that is unlikely.

"Half the profits, expected to exceed £100,000.."
100,000 / 180 = £ 555, so everyone there has to chip in 150 PLUS 555, an average of £ 700.

2 "A close friend of the McCanns, who live in Rothley, Leicestershire, said: “Kate and Gerry are hoping to raise as much money as possible to help them...".
Their close friends and family, and spokesmen really have a way with words, don't they.

by russiandoll 25.09.11 14:02

Do the pair ever publish information about what they are doing to actively search for their missing daughter? Please direct me to a site where i can find this info as I have never heard or seen any evidence that the fund is being used for its stated purpose.

by Gillyspot 25.09.11 14:23

russiandoll wrote:Do the pair ever publish information about what they are doing to actively search for their missing daughter? Please direct me to a site where i can find this info as I have never heard or seen any evidence that the fund is being used for its stated purpose.

Under law they do not have to as are Directors of a Limited Company by Guarantee (usually used by some charities and bowling clubs etc). They have to disclose no more information to the public than BP, Shell, M & S though to Companies House.

The fact that the McCanns' say in their website they have appointed a fund administration to ensure the "highest standards of transparency and accountability" apparently means no more either - as they are transparent in terms of tax (I.E. VAT, Corporation tax) etc. They don't mean transparent to their poor "donors" who are holding bring and buy sales, getting their kids to empty their piggy banks etc. As financially supporting the McCann family is part of the 3 initial main aims then the are not breaking the law legally (morally - they should be strung up) IMO!

by **Jill Havern** 25.09.11 19:01

Gillyspot wrote:(morally - they should be strung up) IMO!

by Guest 04.10.11 19:07

Not sure if this is anything you havent seen before, but it is a statement from CM.

The primary objective of the fund, a not-for-profit company, was to help efforts to find Madeleine, but it can also provide financial support for her parents to cope with the stress, he said.

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by sallypelt 10.12.15 13:20

I can see that the No Stone Unturned Fund has had a change of address. It is now:

10 Queen Street Place
London EC4R 1BE

There are more than 20 businesses listed within this postcode

Anyone interested, here is the link:

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by Google.Gaspar.Statements 18.01.17 10:14

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by Verdi 18.01.17 11:52

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Thanks for posting the link.

So it looks like end game for the fund - despite the limited company's specified exemption from transparency (legal, not moral), there is an apparent deficit of cash in the bank in excess of 500,000k (that's half a million in pounds shillings and pence) between the accounts for the previous year this laest audit.

Question is, have the fund administrators been spending lavishly on the 'search' or has a tidy little sum been relocated in anticipation of some forthcoming expense.

Can't say I'm surprised, I doubt if anyone is foolish enough to donate anymore and all other avenues for income dried-up long ago. Has Kate McCann the audacity to publish an epilogue?

by Doug D 18.01.17 12:22

'Cash' has gone, but £490k has been moved into 'Fixed Assets'.

We have no idea what this relates to (property maybe?)but the value is still there and hasn't been spent on the search.

We also have no idea what they received and spent last year, but anything they did receive (if anything) has been spent.

by jeanmonroe 18.01.17 12:27

Guest wrote:Not sure if this is anything you havent seen before, but it is a statement from CM.

The primary objective of the fund, a not-for-profit company, was to help efforts to find Madeleine, but it can also provide financial support for her parents to cope with the stress, he said.

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"The PRIMARY objective of the fund, a not-for-profit company, was to help efforts to find Madeleine........."

"WAS to"?

'IS to' .....surely?

by sammyc 19.01.17 12:20

£490k moved to 'Fixed Assets' - nice and tidy rounded sum, £70k apiece to keep buying the silence of the Tapas 7 Wink

by **sharonl** 19.01.17 22:14

Tony Bennett wrote:I'd like to open this thread to collect as much as we all can together about:

1. Income into the Fund...from any sources...e.g.>>>

* Donations
* Libel awards
* TV appearances
* Sales of writsbands and posters etc.
* G & K's fun runs and bike rides
* Community fund-raising by community groups
* Wealthy benefactors

2. Expenses from the Fund...from any sources...e.g.>>>

* Metodo 3
* Kevin Halligen
* The McCanns' lawyers including Bates Wells and Braithwaite
* The McCanns' mortgage
* Website
* Goods purchased
* G & K's hotel and travel expenses

3. Any statements at all about the Fund, how much there is in it, what it is being used for etc.

It would also be useful to have, alongside that, information about benefactors who said they would support the McCanns - what quotes do we have about them, do we have details of what amounts they contributed and what for etc.?

In return I undertake to compile an article covering all the above and publish it here.

This thought was triggered by Jill publishing an article on another thread about GMcC collecting 2,300 euros from a fund-raising jazz concert, something I had never come across.

Maybe it was used to help Madeira lawyer Marcos Aragao Correia be paid via Metodo 3 for two high-profile searches of the Arade Dam for Madeleine's bones?

What about the fees received for selling bogus stories to the press and other fees from The Sun?

What about the expenses of Antonio Jiminez Raso? Surely the bribes paid to all those witnesses to falsely claim that they had seen Madeleine weren't funded by him? Maybe they were included in the fees he received from the press once he had secured a storyline for them.

And what about Kates' novel? "All royalties to the find Madeleine fund" clearly stamped on the front cover, yet all we see is donations from Kate.

by Verdi 19.01.17 23:21

What about earnings from the 'bums on seats' daytime studio sittings for days/months/years on end - including an appearance on the Oprah Winfrey Show.

Although realistically the amount of money they've raked in from whatever source can never be accurately quantified, one thing is certain - not one farthing has ever been spent 'searching' for little Madeleine McCann. Not by the parents nor their friends nor their family nor their private detectives nor their lawyers nor Operation Grange nor their network of paid employees. Unless of course you include bogus private detectives hired to arrange sightings across the globe to keep the show on the road.

Indeed it was only the Portuguese police, under the supervision of Goncalo Amaral, that showed any genuine concern for finding Madeleine and they've taken his money as well.

Why? Well I can only surmise that it's because they know Madeleine is not a findable little girl that was taken from her family by an abductor on the night of 3rd May 2007. So what have they done with the vast income accrued over the years? A cheapo website - good quality wristbands - posters - Egyptian cotton T-Shirts? Nah, that would only account for a few hundred quid - not millions. Even the long term campaign appears to have been funded by wealthy benefactors.

An open question..

by MayMuse 20.01.17 3:48

I was looking at this thread made me take another look at the "fund"

Section 5 stood out
(5) If Madeleine's Fund isn't a charity who is regulating it?
The directors regulate Madeleine's Fund and they aspire to follow best practice policies and processes used by charities. The directors have reviewed its operation against “Good Governance: A Code for the Voluntary and Community Sector”. This sets out best practice requirements for charities.
The Fund also has:

a Financial Procedures Manual
job descriptions for directors, chair and treasurer
clearly laid out policies and processes for:
payments
expense claims
risk management
whistle blowing
registering conflicts of interest

What on earth do they mean by "whistle blowing?"

by hogwash 20.01.17 8:38

MayMuse wrote:I was looking at this thread made me take another look at the "fund"

Section 5 stood out
(5) If Madeleine's Fund isn't a charity who is regulating it?
The directors regulate Madeleine's Fund and they aspire to follow best practice policies and processes used by charities. The directors have reviewed its operation against “Good Governance: A Code for the Voluntary and Community Sector”. This sets out best practice requirements for charities.
The Fund also has:

a Financial Procedures Manual

job descriptions for directors, chair and treasurer

clearly laid out policies and processes for:

payments

expense claims

risk management

whistle blowing

registering conflicts of interest

What on earth do they mean by "whistle blowing?"

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]Whistleblower
A whistleblower (also whistle-blower or whistle blower) is a person who exposes any kind of information or activity that is deemed illegal, unethical, or not correct within an organization that is either private or public.

Maybe they mean the shills they pay, like the ones on [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]?

Like the ones that followed TB around the internet.

And the ones that hounded Brenda Leyland to death.

I wonder how much they spend on their whistleblowing activities.

I wonder what price they put on Brenda's life?

by empath 03.02.17 10:00

Guest wrote:Translating the files

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Now translated into English, at a cost of £100,000, the files are yielding new leads for the private detectives, they tell the documentary makers.

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Wouldn't it have made more sense to just pay private investigators to investigate all leads, you know leave no stone un turned ? there wasn't a person in the world that didn't know Maddie was missing or what she looked like, just from the news alone, why not spend that money on actually investigating possible paedophiles, child killers, kidnap gangs ? There must be detectives who are specialised in these cases, surely to god that would have made more sense than whats been done in this campaign, highlighting Maddies disappearance ? Leave the news to do their thing and meanwhile pay for as many investigators in Portugal and surrounding Countries. I'm baffled as to how they spent so much money on websites, posters and t shirts when they didn't need to, its like ADVERTISING for a show thats already sold out.... POINTLESS

by Doug D 30.05.17 12:58

Looks like this is late unless it’s just tied up in a ‘Bank Holiday’ backlog (used to be the ‘annual return’, just changed a bit):

(They managed to register Linnett's resignation last week)

Confirmation statement
First statement date 15 May 2017
due by 29 May 2017

………………………………………….
‘This guide tells you about the confirmation statement that replaces the annual return. Your company must deliver a confirmation statement to us at least once a year, even if the company is dormant. If you don’t do this, there could be serious consequences. The registrar might assume your company isn’t carrying on business or in operation and take steps to strike it from the register. If the registrar strikes a company off the register, it ceases to exist and its assets become Crown property.
If your company’s in operation, the company, its directors and any other officers could be prosecuted because they’re responsible for ensuring they submit the confirmation statement on time. Failing to do this is a criminal offence.
The requirement to file a confirmation statement applies to all companies, including small companies such as flat management companies.
You should read this guide together with the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and the relevant regulations which are available to view on the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] website.
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