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Post by Verity on 16.03.19 10:33

i wonder why GA took part in that film. I got the sense he dug his own grave with his own words.

I wonder how he's feeling today?
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Post by Phoebe on 16.03.19 10:36

Before I head off to watch the last episodes of this propaganda piece here's a few more observations.
As far as I can see, anything which would make the McCanns look bad has been either omitted or diluted. 
There is testimony to suggest that although the P.J. found their leaving of the twins odd, it was quite commonplace and others had done it in the past on other holidays or would have chanced it. 
There is no mention of Madeleine''s reward chart which indicated she was prone to waking at night.
 There is no mention of the Tuesday night crying for an hour and a quarter.
The airport bus video had been cropped to avoid showing Gerry in a bad light.
None of the Tapas staff or Ocean Club workers have yet been interviewed. It is baldly stated that at the time of the Smith sighting loads of witnesses "Placed" Gerry at the tapas bar (conveniently omitting independent witnesses who say he was absent form the table for about thirty mins).
There is no mention (so far) of the McCanns having paid half a million to the newspapers to keep them front page everyday for a year.
Jeremy Wilkins has been airbrushed out of the Tanner sighting, as has Jane's reason for crying during the McCann reconstruction - ie - the dispute between herself and Gerry over their differing accounts.
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Post by sallypelt on 16.03.19 10:37

@Verity wrote:i wonder why GA took part in that film. I got the sense he dug his own grave with his own words.

I wonder how he's feeling today?
Verity, this is what "journalists" do. They are there to make money, and very little else. I have been on the sharp edge of their poetic licence. The tricks these people pull will make your jaw drop to the floor. Read Pat Brown's posts, and you will get a flavour of what these so-called journalists are capable of.
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Post by Verity on 16.03.19 10:40

And none of the happy go lucky, smiling, smirking faces of the McCanns in general that we usually see, only the sad looking ones.

Poor Fake and Merry McCann.
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Post by plebgate on 16.03.19 10:46

@Verity wrote:And none of the happy go lucky, smiling, smirking faces of the McCanns in general that we usually see, only the sad looking ones.

Poor Fake and Merry McCann.
Fake and Merry McCann    big grin

They certainly appeared happy and smiley in the photo of them at the races with Mi Lord.

Anyone spot them at Cheltenham this year,  that's an ever so posh place.   big grin

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Post by princessleia on 16.03.19 10:52

@Jill Havern wrote:
@princessleia wrote:Hi everyone. 

Jill, I've had to re-register, because I forgot logins, and no longer have access to the email address I used to register years ago.

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I know my opinion won't be a popular one, I had to get off my chest. I'm not a troll, I dip in and out of the forum, have done for many, many years.
Not a problem. Welcome back.

Yes, I understand your confusion now - that was their objective and I think they've achieved it. It was a success for the McCanns.

I feel quite depressed by it all actually having watched all 8 episodes, although wasn't paying 100% attention, but got the gist of it. I can understand why you feel torn.

Hurry up Peter and Tony with your analysis...
Thanks Jill

Exactly how I feel! Depressed and quite deflated. 


Like I said I will watch the 8th episode and digest it all, I may even re-watch it all.
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Post by sallypelt on 16.03.19 10:53

Netflix complaints and reviews:

https://www.complaintsboard.com/netflix-b120002/page/2


Netflix is ALL about making money. Look at the complaints about people having money taken out of their bank accounts.
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Post by Jill Havern on 16.03.19 12:14

@sallypelt wrote:Netflix complaints and reviews:

https://www.complaintsboard.com/netflix-b120002/page/2


Netflix is ALL about making money. Look at the complaints about people having money taken out of their bank accounts.
Marvellous. Simply marvellous.

I signed up for Netflix just to watch this documentary and I've already cancelled my subscription so I wait with baited breath to see if my 'free' month will be charged.

waiting

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https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/madeline-mccann-disappearance-netflix-documentary-photograph-a8824541.html

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Post by Blackpied on 16.03.19 12:27

I still believe Madeleine died in the apartment and no "only for money
Netflix film"will convince me otherwise.Could money have changed hands,may there have been a spot of blackmail,not saying there was
But who knows.Have the msm commented,I have never read 
newspapers since the disgraceful original reporting.
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Post by Brookers on 16.03.19 12:36

So it has taken 12 years for a photograph of someone's child to surface and how can anybody tell who the child is? Absolute tosh as is the ridiculous Netflix series.
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Post by Phoebe on 16.03.19 14:33

I have just finished watching all of the McCann propaganda series by Netflix.
It's clearly utterly biased and has been supported by the McCanns. To add to my previous post up-page there is, most conveniently, no reference to the fact that it was the McCanns, not the P.J. who first mentioned the possibility of Madeleine being dead.
Carol Tranmer is interviewed at length in the film but not a dicky bird about her late aunt, Mrs. Fenn's, claim about hearing crying for an hour and a quarter, which is in the published files.
The Smith sighting and e-fits get the briefest of mentions, despite S.Y. claiming it is of new, major importance to Op. Grange!! There is no interview with the Smiths, no statement or quote from them to confirm that they have changed their minds about it being Gerry they saw that night. (of course, Pulse can claim that when they made the film this was the information they were given)
There is not a single interview with any of the Portuguese workers who were there when it happened.
There is no explanation of how Totman-crecheman could have been seen walking in the wrong direction if he was coming from the creche.
The whooshing curtains claim has been airbrushed from the story,
Now, suddenly, Oldield remembers hearing a noise on his check. Strange he didn't mention that before in any of his statements.
No mention of the Portuguese S.C. ruling or statement

All in all, it's a powerful piece of biased propaganda designed to exonerate the McCanns, claim they have been cleared and damn Dr. Amaral's investigation. It depicts Portugal as a haven for child traffickers and paedophiles, policed by a corrupt force who hide this fact and who would do anything to avoid damage to the tourism industry. I sincerely hope the Portuguese have the guts to react. We'll see.
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Post by Verdi on 16.03.19 14:53


All in all, it's a powerful piece of biased propaganda designed to exonerate the McCanns, claim they have been cleared and damn Dr. Amaral's investigation. It depicts Portugal as a haven for child traffickers and paedophiles, policed by a corrupt force who hide this fact and who would do anything to avoid damage to the tourism industry. I sincerely hope the Portuguese have the guts to react. We'll see.

Anyone who ever thought this Netflix story was destined to be anything other than a McCann orchestrated initiative, then they haven't been paying attention over the past 12 years.

The implication that Portugal is a haven for paedophiles and child traffickers was played out from the beginning.  They even took their despicable accusations around Europe across to North Africa and as far away as the Antipodes and Middle East.

Lesson to be learned - if you want cooperation, you do not take yourself on a celebrity tour with an accusatory publicity stunt suggesting that countries are overrun with paedophiles, child traffickers, slave markets and above all else harbouring your child.

You know what they say - 'people who live in glass houses....'.  Take a look at your own country before slagging-off others - starting with the corridors of Westminster.

So back to the Netflix thing .... THE END !!!

What's next on the agenda - The Great Escape?  From Here to Eternity?  Titanic?  Some Like it Hot? Duck Soup?  Carry On up the Khyber Pass?

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Post by plebgate on 16.03.19 15:02

Daily Mail have reported on the 48 Questions Mrs did not answer.   I didn't see the  49th Question printed though.   Apparently the Portugese and British police have completely exhonerated them.

Is something afoot with all this reporting in the UK papers following on from the Netflix film?

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Post by ferrotty on 16.03.19 16:25

According to Netflix (not watched it myself)apparently it was stated by Gerry that he put the window blind down when everyone was looking for Madeline, does anyone know if he stated this to the police?.
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Post by shana on 16.03.19 16:35

The McCann's claiming disgust at a series which has people now believing they are actually innocent. Or should that be the McCann's feigning disgust?

Jane Tanner lied about the direction Tannerman was going in. she lied, and that lie produced a suspect that was used for years as a serious line of enquiry.

I'm on the last episode, there's a lot of time wasted, there's a lot of info that has been ignored Kate's lying about the window and shutters, Tannerman walking wrong way, no real alibi for Gerry MCann at 10pm when the Smith's saw smithman, etc etc.

I'll have to watch it all again, compare notes if i am to draw a conclusion. But i really don't know if I can be bothered.
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Post by crusader on 16.03.19 16:41

In his statement dated 10th May 07, he said : he then closed external blinds, made his way outside and tried to open them, which he managed to do. I cant find in any other statement, anyone else who saw the blind open.
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Post by sharonl on 16.03.19 21:20

The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann review – a moral failure  / 




Netflix’s long-awaited documentary on the McCann case offered no new facts, no new insight – it didn’t even have a point of view

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  Kate and Gerry McCann in 2013, holding an age-progressed police image of their missing daughter. Photograph: Facundo Arrizabalaga/EPA

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Rumours of difficulties with Netflix’s documentary about the Madeleine McCann case have abounded almost from the moment it was commissioned. The McCanns themselves refused to take part and asked everyone around them not to either. At one point, it was said that it was going to be cut from an eight-part series to an hour-long one-off. Then it was going to be pulled altogether. Certainly no previews were made available, and the makers did not do the usual round of pre-show publicity interviews in the press, which is never a sign of great confidence in the product.










But in the end, The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann landed as a full eight-part series. Was it worth the wait? Did it confound the rumours and the doubters? No and no, not by any conceivable metric.
It was a simple retelling – in what felt almost like real time, so leadenly was it done – of the story of the three-year-old’s disappearance from the holiday resort of Praia da Luz one terrible night in May 2007. It was a blatant cash-in on the vogue for the true-crime series that have become a staple of Netflix’s output since the success of Making a Murderer a few years ago, but without any of the justifications previous works in the genre have provided. It was not the disinterment of a forgotten case, it was not the re-examination of a suspected miscarriage of justice. It offered no new facts, no new insight. It didn’t even have a point of view.                                                   

 
            
                                        


Instead, it was purely a rehashing of everything anyone who was alive at the time, or who has been of an age to understand the periodic appeals on anniversaries, birthdays and other painful dates by the McCanns for more information in the 12 years that have elapsed since, already knew. The vanishing, the panic, the initial horror and the delayed police response take up most of the first episode, and we move on from there through the searches that yield nothing, the growing media attention, the breakdown of trust between Kate and Gerry and the Portuguese police, the tenuous identification of a suspect, the sniffer dogs that throw suspicion on the parents, the magazine article that suggested a pact of silence between the McCanns and the friends they were holidaying with over the “fact” that Madeleine died in an accident while they were eating at the resort’s tapas bar 100 yards away and that they disposed of the body, on through all possible sightings, connections with other cases, the books later written, the agendas served, the legal suits that followed, and so on. All cul-de-sacs, all pointless recapping of parts of a story that still has no end.

All of it was padded out with extraneous guff – the history of the Algarve as a holiday resort, accounts from journalists of how they rushed to get to the story and then their breathless accounts of waiting for and not getting any news … The talking heads were frequently drowned out by the sound of barrel-bottoms being scraped.
It’s a feat of sorts, I suppose, to create something so morally and creatively bankrupt that your viewers would gain more insight into your case if they were to sit alone in a darkened room for 10 minutes to try to fathom the depths of parental anguish then, now and for the more than a decade in between. When the urge came upon the makers to put this series together, they should have done the same. They should have spent their time wondering how the McCanns bear it, sent up a heartfelt and useless prayer that somehow, some time, answers for that suffering pair are found and that they are allowed to live out the rest of their days in either joy or, at the very least, the kind of terrible peace that comes with knowing the worst.

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Post by Jill Havern on 16.03.19 21:27

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6816327/The-48-questions-Kate-McCann-didnt-answer-disappearance-daughter-Madeleine.html#comments

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Post by sharonl on 16.03.19 21:58

@Jill Havern wrote: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6816327/The-48-questions-Kate-McCann-didnt-answer-disappearance-daughter-Madeleine.html#comments


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370 comments, most critical, and some with over 3000 green arrows . . .
The public are not buying it.


Of course they are not buying it.  In the words of Goncalo Amaral, The truth will live forever but a lie will only survive until the truth has booted it out. 

Too little, too late - its time the liars gave up on this, they're not fooling the public, just making fools of themselves. 

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That's just a minor sample

The whole lot of them, they look and sound ridiculous not to mention corrupt.

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Post by taurus47 on 16.03.19 23:10

6 hours of my life wasted...Heavily weighted in favour of the McCanns and the supposed abduction. Amaral treated as the villain of the piece and totally discredited. Most of the evidence disproving an abduction was ignored or rubbished and the story of Madeleine diving overboard to retrieve a hat was highly unlikely. I think that most people who follow this forum in search of the truth will be disappointed to say the least as so much evidence was left out, and the McCanns were only shown in favourable light - no involvement in the programme by them then!
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Post by GordonGarner on 16.03.19 23:21

One day maybe just one day it will dawn on the many that the truth and the only truth is that this ' case ' is fake.
A fake event 
Fake ' victim'
Fake perpetrators 
Fake cast.
All fake , the whole thing.
Maddie never existed.
The M's are actors.
Amelie and Sean ? Seriously.
She's been seen many times in Liverpool , never with him and never with any kids. Often at a church with her mother. The Mothers house now stands empty.
Theres no back story yo the whole thing and to these people.
Where are the tapas gang ? Nowhere , that's where because they were actors who left the stage, just like Murat etc.
Whole thing is an exercise in how far the media can manipulate.
How far the public can be conned.
Whole story is 100% fake.
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Post by Jill Havern on 16.03.19 23:28

Amaral is very real.
His dismissal from the investigation was very real.
His resignation from the PJ at the height of his career was very real.
The murder of his dog was very real.
The destruction of his marriage by the McCanns was very real.
The destruction of his financial situation was very real.
Real events.
Real victim.

Spot the difference.

Although I do agree with you that the whole McCann story is fake.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 16.03.19 23:51

@GordonGarner wrote:A fake event...Fake ' victim'...

All fake, the whole thing. Maddie never existed.
Madeleine travelled to Praia da Luz with her parents on Saturday 28 April and we have two sets of video footage of her that day, plus three still photos.

We have either one or two still photos of her on the Sunday.

After Sunday, we have no proven photos of her and not one wholly credible, independent sighting of her after that either.

There has certainly been an awful lot of fakery after Sunday 29 April

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Dr Martin Roberts: "The evidence is that these are the pjyamas Madeleine wore on holiday in Praia da Luz. They were photographed and the photo handed to a press agency, who released it on 8 May, as the search for Madeleine continued. The McCanns held up these same pyjamas at two press conferences on 5 & 7June 2007. How could Madeleine have been abducted?"

Amelie Mcann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by Verdi on 17.03.19 0:07

@GordonGarner wrote:One day maybe just one day it will dawn on the many that the truth and the only truth is that this ' case ' is fake.
A fake event

Now now, let's not be silly bignono .

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