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Post by Big Vern on 29.10.10 1:21

Incredible that the BBC never reported the lifting of the ban.
I emailed to ask why but have had no reply so far.
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Post by Autumn on 29.10.10 1:55


Good for you Big Vern though II wouldn't hold your breath for a reply thumbsup

Nice to see another new face here, welcome aboard :yahoo:
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Post by Big Vern on 29.10.10 2:14

I also emailed the Daily Mail to ask why their silence...especially as they had featured the ban itself so prominently a year earlier....again, no reply.
To me, the blatantly obvious part that 99% of the UK media are playing in perpetually supporting the McCanns is just as disturbing as the child's demise.
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Post by Shibboleth on 29.10.10 7:42

Here is something even more disturbing. The BIG McCann news on Sky is that the McCanns have "launched a new German website".

Actually it's just the existing website, run through Google Translate. It is full of spelling and grammatical mistakes. I am quite sure that the German people are very appreciative for this mangled version of the Official Website, especially as many German people can speak English anyway. The PayPal button is there, of course. ("Spenden Sie jetzt mit PayPal").

But Martin Brunt devotes a whole section of his blog to this rubbish.

There is not one word - not even one - about the overturning of the book ban, the fact that Goncalo Amaral can now speak freely, that this case has probably cost the McCanns tens of thousands of Euros, and they are still not off the hook.

I have given up even wondering WHY.
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Post by Big Vern on 29.10.10 11:20

But why??
How do these people sleep at night?
They are surely not stupid...they HAVE to arrive at the same conclusion as us presented with the same facts. It can only be that they know full well what they are doing. They are helping to keep an innocent child in her unmarked grave and those responsible free.
WHY????
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Post by maebee on 29.10.10 17:46

Great news:

Gonçalo Amaral looks to launch book in UK
Updated: 29-Oct-2010



By PAULO SILVESTRE and DAISY SAMPSON
news@algarveresident.com

Former lead investigator in the Madeleine McCann case Gonçalo Amaral has told the Algarve Resident of his intentions to release his controversial book, Maddie – A Verdade da Mentira (Maddie - The Truth of the Lie) in the UK.

Gonçalo Amaral said: “I believe that the British people have the right to read an objective and well reasoned literary work. I think that it would be strange that the oldest democracy in the world was not able to publish and read this book.”

The ban on the book, which was imposed in September 2009, was lifted this month allowing it, and a DVD based on the account, to go back on sale across the country and Gonçalo Amaral believes that this decision was an act of justice.

“I think that justice has been done in this case. The battle has been won but the war has only just begun in the search for truth and the realisation of justice,” he said.

While the controversial book set out to state the beliefs of Gonçalo Amaral in the case of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, he has no concrete plans to follow this up with a sequel.

“My book gave an account of the first six months of the investigation which I coordinated and in which I was defiled and unfairly criticised both personally and professionally.

“Now the process of the case is available to the public while the strategies of the McCann family and their private investigators have also brought forward a wealth of information about the case. I have gone back to being a free man but I will think about if it would be good sense to decide to write another book.”

Meanwhile, Gonçalo Amaral has not made a final decision as to whether he will be suing the McCann family for damages incurred through the banning of the book. He told the Algarve Resident: “The decision to sue the McCanns for damages has not yet been made. We are assessing the damages that have been done and then I will make a decision with my family and lawyers about this.”

Gonçalo Amaral refused to comment about a possible appeal by the McCann family to reinstate the ban: “I have no opinion on statements of intent. Let’s wait and see,” he
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Post by Jill Havern on 29.10.10 17:52

@maebee wrote:Great news:

Gonçalo Amaral looks to launch book in UK

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Post by Guest on 29.10.10 17:56

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Post by Big Vern on 29.10.10 18:13

This man is far too clever for the gruesome twosome.
It's no contest.
The house of cards will soon tumble.
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Post by Guest on 29.10.10 21:32

Anyone seen the pic of the Queen reading GA's book on Joana's site

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http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2010/10/goncalo-amaral-to-launch-maddie-truth.html#comment-form
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Post by Judge Mental on 29.10.10 22:00

candyfloss wrote:Anyone seen the pic of the Queen reading GA's book on Joana's site

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http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2010/10/goncalo-amaral-to-launch-maddie-truth.html#comment-form

One has to say that she looks rather startled by the page she is reading. Perhaps she is is reading that her Establishment figures are still just as dangerous as when she warned Paul Burrell of them.
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Post by Shibboleth on 29.10.10 22:53

I just saw it. It is very well done! Book Ban Overturned - Page 8 351181
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Post by kathyBelle on 29.10.10 23:16

candyfloss wrote:Anyone seen the pic of the Queen reading GA's book on Joana's site

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Post by Shibboleth on 29.10.10 23:25

@listener wrote:
@Shibboleth wrote:Here is something even more disturbing. The BIG McCann news on Sky is that the McCanns have "launched a new German website".

Actually it's just the existing website, run through Google Translate. It is full of spelling and grammatical mistakes. I am quite sure that the German people are very appreciative for this mangled version of the Official Website, especially as many German people can speak English anyway. The PayPal button is there, of course. ("Spenden Sie jetzt mit PayPal").

But Martin Brunt devotes a whole section of his blog to this rubbish.

There is not one word - not even one - about the overturning of the book ban, the fact that Goncalo Amaral can now speak freely, that this case has probably cost the McCanns tens of thousands of Euros, and they are still not off the hook.

I have given up even wondering WHY.

I initially thought "Why translate to German" ? - and now wonder if there is a connection to the fact that that part of The Algarve has a very heavy German 'useage'?
(From my past travels, I remember that Lagos and Luz had a very large contingent of English and German visitors/expats)
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Probably more to do with another book about the case, just released by German psychologist Daniela Prousa. Whom I believe comes to much the same conclusions as Goncalo Amaral.
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Post by aiyoyo on 30.10.10 11:00

My two pennies worth:

Imo, Isabel Duarte would struggle to find a Court/Judge who would accept their counter appeal should they decide to do that.

Not only were the 'Panel of Three Judges' meticulous, they also covered thoroughly all the mccanns points in a point-to-point answer leaving no ground for ambiquity.

Unless Isabel Duarte has new strategies I believe no Court will take on the task of countering the 'Unanimous decision of Three Judges', simply because it would be counter productive to the PT legal system.
On top of that it would legally inviable and impossible for a pure and simple reason that all the mccanns contentions about privacy rights, hamper search for Maddie or whatever, is secondary to the prime issue at stake - that of Amaral's right to freedom of expression.

Essentially, the Panel of Judges had ruled that the 'ban' breached Amaral's right to freedom of expression which is his constitutional right, and by extension the 'ban' was a breach of the PT constitution.

The Panel of Judges were highly critical of the first instance judge which gives the impression if Amaral wins the Libel, he may have valid legal ground/s to sue the State of PT starting with the first instance judge and taking in all those in a campaign to destroy him.

As for his book appearing in UK, surely the mccanns would apply for an injunction.
Can people imagine every one is free to buy it in Asda or Tesco or wherever, and the mccanns' neighours, friends, colleagues and associates all clamouring for it, and the mccanns taking no step to prevent it?
They're in a catch-22 situation. An injuction will bring spotlight on them and whet the appetite, and a circulation would expose their lies.

I dont know on what ground team Amaral is going to be able to counter sue the mccanns, unless Amaral's lawyers hold info we know nothing about. My view is Amaral cannot countersue just on the basis the mccanns took him to court. Taking him to court is their legal right and its down to the Court to determine whether allegations were proven.

Amaral can certainly take first instance judge to court because it was she (the judge) who allowed that ban thereby causing Amaral's financial hardship as well as compounded his stress already placed upon him by mccanns by their act of the law suit.

I doubt team Amaral would do that (sue the first instance judge i mean ) at this point in time because he already has plenty on his plate. No harm waiting until the libel is over as the first judge's ruling was overturned anyway and no longer burdens him. Conversely the latest ruling is a hugh setback for mccanns.
What is an inconvenience and nuisance to him is the freeze of his assets, a pre-empt action taken because of the temp injunction was allowed, which I feel his lawyers should get it unfreeze now that the injunction is invalid.

No reason for Court to continue to freeze it just because a libel suit is pending, in fact no reason to freeze it at all, because historically libel payout in PT is pathetic. The freeze is probably illegally applied and taken. Because it was based on two wrong assumptions 1) that he will lose and 2) that his entire assets will be needed. I mean before the case is heard, on what basis can a court decide how much of his assets to freeze for that kind of eventuality, or for that matter which way the verdict will go.
If it was taken on basis of temp injunction, on false assumption that temp injunction is predilection of defamation trial, then equally the undoing of the injuction should undo the freeze based on the same basis.

We shall see what comes of the freeze.
Does anyone know whether Amaral's legal team can apply to unfreeze his assets on the new ruling?

The only way he can countersue mccanns immediately is if the mccanns were to withdraw the libel now.
Of course his lawyers may have other good legal grounds that we know nothing about.
But if it were simply because the mccanns filed a suit against him, then that may not be considered valid legal ground.

What may be too late for the mccanns is: it may not be possible for them to withdraw now.
They cant possibly filed a suit which caused people and entity harm, damage, and sufferings then decide to withdraw simply because verdict of supplementary filing they instigated in the interim period went against them. Otherwise their legal suit can be seen as undertaken in bad faith and with ulterior motive eg. ill intention to destroy the other party because of their personal vendetta.

Aimho of course, because I know nothing about the intricate workings of law.
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Post by aiyoyo on 30.10.10 11:15

@Shibboleth wrote:
@listener wrote:
@Shibboleth wrote:Here is something even more disturbing. The BIG McCann news on Sky is that the McCanns have "launched a new German website".

Actually it's just the existing website, run through Google Translate. It is full of spelling and grammatical mistakes. I am quite sure that the German people are very appreciative for this mangled version of the Official Website, especially as many German people can speak English anyway. The PayPal button is there, of course. ("Spenden Sie jetzt mit PayPal").

But Martin Brunt devotes a whole section of his blog to this rubbish.

There is not one word - not even one - about the overturning of the book ban, the fact that Goncalo Amaral can now speak freely, that this case has probably cost the McCanns tens of thousands of Euros, and they are still not off the hook.

I have given up even wondering WHY.



I initially thought "Why translate to German" ? - and now wonder if there is a connection to the fact that that part of The Algarve has a very heavy German 'useage'?
(From my past travels, I remember that Lagos and Luz had a very large contingent of English and German visitors/expats)
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Probably more to do with another book about the case, just released by German psychologist Daniela Prousa. Whom I believe comes to much the same conclusions as Goncalo Amaral.

They wont touch this one with a barge pole. They did nothing about Faked Abduction either.

What is of advantage to Amaral is: his lawyers can use this book and that of Stevo's as examples that others also wrote about the case and expressed alternate version than that of the mccanns, so why is it the mccanns didnt take them to task? Why target Amaral? If his legal team can prove that the mccanns filed the defamation with ulterior motive and ill intent....then there is good legal ground to counter sue the mccanns.
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Post by Cheshire Cat on 30.10.10 11:46

@aiyoyo wrote:What may be too late for the mccanns is: it may not be possible for them to withdraw now.
They cant possibly filed a suit which caused people and entity harm, damage, and sufferings then decide to withdraw simply because verdict of supplementary filing they instigated in the interim period went against them. Otherwise their legal suit can be seen as undertaken in bad faith and with ulterior motive eg. ill intention to destroy the other party because of their personal vendetta.

Aimho of course, because I know nothing about the intricate workings of law.

That is my current thinking - they may have reached the point of no return hence the reinforced McCann team in Lisbon.
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Post by Angelique on 30.10.10 15:04

I think the McCanns have reached the Catch 22 position - they can neither move forward or pull out. Moving on means they require cash - hence the German connection - doing nothing else means paying damages possibly but GA costs anyway. Directors jumping ship - Rowling, Branson etc. nowhere on the horizon. Only Kennedy may come to the rescue

Return to Portugal to declare their innocence - mission impossible - too risky.

Anyone here play chess - what would you do ?

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Post by Rainbow on 30.10.10 15:38

Faked Abduction hasnt made much of a ripple in the literary pond though has it? Does anyone here have a copy?
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Post by Cheshire Cat on 30.10.10 15:52

@Angelique wrote:I think the McCanns have reached the Catch 22 position - they can neither move forward or pull out. Moving on means they require cash - hence the German connection - doing nothing else means paying damages possibly but GA costs anyway. Directors jumping ship - Rowling, Branson etc. nowhere on the horizon. Only Kennedy may come to the rescue

Return to Portugal to declare their innocence - mission impossible - too risky.

Anyone here play chess - what would you do ?

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Kennedy is so deeply involved in this case, of course he will "come to the rescue", he will spend whatever it takes to keep the case from being re-opened!
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Post by Angelique on 30.10.10 16:29

Rainbow

I don't as yet have a copy - I am tempted but think it probably only repeats the case files + some opinions on what happened that night.

I think you can read some of it here (with permission from admin) :

http://mccannexposure.wordpress.com/2010/07/22/another-one-for-carter-rucks-hit-list-perhaps/

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Post by aiyoyo on 30.10.10 16:37

@Rainbow wrote:Faked Abduction hasnt made much of a ripple in the literary pond though has it? Does anyone here have a copy?

You are right. No one on this or other forum seems to have it, or they are not talking about it, so cant have made any impact. But that's besides the point.
The pertinent point is two other books with same conclusion as Amaral exist, and the mccanns did nothing, so WHY Amaral?

Amaral defence team could definitely use it for their defence when necessary, just like they cited the mccanns media appearances and Uk reconstruction et al in the right to privacy issue.
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Post by aiyoyo on 30.10.10 16:41

@Cheshire Cat wrote:
@Angelique wrote:I think the McCanns have reached the Catch 22 position - they can neither move forward or pull out. Moving on means they require cash - hence the German connection - doing nothing else means paying damages possibly but GA costs anyway. Directors jumping ship - Rowling, Branson etc. nowhere on the horizon. Only Kennedy may come to the rescue

Return to Portugal to declare their innocence - mission impossible - too risky.

Anyone here play chess - what would you do ?

Angelique

Kennedy is so deeply involved in this case, of course he will "come to the rescue", he will spend whatever it takes to keep the case from being re-opened!

I dont think so.
He will make a run the moment there's hint they are in trouble with the law, that's my opinion.

I cant see a gallant BK standing by cheques and pen ready. That would only implicate him further.

The moment the mccanns tails are trapped he's going to disappear.
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Post by Guest on 30.10.10 18:00

I would think a lot of people are going to be worried if they look into the Fund more closely including Kennedy imo
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