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Tennis Balls Photo - NEW ANALYSIS by Michelle Monk Photography

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Post by PeterMac on 06.01.19 7:29

Google Image search gives three versions


The Flickr one may have some EXIF metadata for the poster as a whole.

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Re: Tennis Balls Photo - NEW ANALYSIS by Michelle Monk Photography

Post by crispbee2000 on 07.01.19 8:40

Excellent points all. So, the pertinent question for me is - is there a version of the photo as it appeared in the initial release via Sky that can be analysed with better than reasonable chance that it represents what was released 09 May and hasn't been saved, re-saved, subsequently manipulated by others of unknown intent with unpredictable consequences. If the anomalies found by Michelle Monk and others could be verified to exist in the original "release" it would go a long way to proving wrong-doing over the claims of the provenance of the photo. As this was a chain email I'm guessing they didn't send a high res image  / large attachment? Michelle seems to be working on a larger image than the ones I can find on the www.
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Post by PeterMac on 07.01.19 9:54

Neither of these has EXIF attached that I can discover
The PhilomenaTony poster is cropped still further.
Unclear why




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Post by crispbee2000 on 07.01.19 15:54

OK, here's what I'm thinking. If the shot above was taken at face value as an un-modified image there are serious issues with halos and extraneously coloured pixels where they shouldn't be. However, if you over saturate the image you can clearly see larger blocks of pixels clearly indicating that the image has been reduced in size dramatically (much more that 10x I would say). If I take one of my own images at normal digicam size and save it as jpg resizing to about 500x400 pixels I see many of the same types of halo and extraneous pixels and this occurs without any manipulation, other than resizing the image. It's not unreasonable that team McCann would have shrunk the image to send it out via email.

So, unless there's any higher res original image file versions out there to investigate, I don't think that we can conclude anything about this image from a photoshop perspective. Of course all of the other anomalies about dates, weather, skin tan, head body ratios, hair colour etc. are valid and are still to be resolved. Hope this helps.....
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Post by PeterMac on 07.01.19 16:49

I think you are right. We were immensely privileged is having access to the "original" of the Pool Photo with the EXIF metadata intact.
Without the original Tennis Balls photo there is little we can do except discuss

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Post by BlueBag on 09.01.19 8:35

It's nice to see people who understand what jpeg compression does to pictures.
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Post by HiDeHo on 09.01.19 10:37

Not sure if this is anything worthwhile...





I continue to feel that if the line that appears to be a watermark could be established it would help date the photo.

If it is due to cleaning (scheduled for lunchtime AFTER the mini tennis) then why was the court wet during mini tennis when the photo was supposedly taken.


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Post by crispbee2000 on 14.01.19 20:39

If the extract shows the EXIF data then there is something very strange about it. It shows the original date as 5th May 2007 but the time is exactly 00:00:00 - which doesn't look very genuine to me. If the camera date wasn't set it would all be at 00:00, but why ever would the date show and not a time? Where does the data come from? Always suspicious of something with no source.
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Post by Verdi on 14.01.19 21:10

What is the reason to suppose the above ^^^ blurred image of some untitled EXIF data relates to the 'tennis ball' image?

Whether you believe the abduction theory happened on the night of 3rd May or whether you believe in an earlier 'disappearance', either way the 5th May doesn't fit the bill.  Madeleine was long gone before then so how can there be a photograph of her alive and well on a later date.

I hear you say, that's just the point - it's fake.  Well, all I can say to that is the faker wasn't very clever was s/he?

Someone is playing silly buggers methinks bignono .

This particular image will never prove anything unless it's provenance is ascertained.  After nigh on twelve years of pontificating I really don't think that's very likely.

As far as I'm concerned, the important factor is what we do know - not what we don't know.  There is a distinct shortage of photographs of Madeleine at or around the Ocean Club - no beach shots;  no pool shots;  no mini tennis shots; no creche shots;  no apartment shots;  no Tapas tea shots - it's just not normal.  Only a couple of playground shots clearly taken at the beginning of the holiday and the poolside photograph said to have been taken early afternoon on 3rd May 2007.  Coincidentally the very day she was said to have disappeared.

What more proof is needed?

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Post by crispbee2000 on 14.01.19 21:16

It's like searching for the needle in a haystack and the more hay you scoop and throw away some b*****d throws even more hay on top of everything. It would be good to know who was throwing the straw...…….  but we can guess where it is coming from.
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