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#1 #2 #3 now the FOURTH (Mini Tennis Pt1) of MANY Discrepancies. Who Was Lying?

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#1 #2 #3 now the FOURTH (Mini Tennis Pt1) of MANY Discrepancies. Who Was Lying?

Post by HiDeHo on 08.07.18 14:54

This is the first of MANY examples of discrepancies found by comparing statements on the timetables that I have compiled

Title: THURSDAY Timetables for COMPARISON
http://forum4.aimoo.com/madeleinemccanncontroversy/WELCOME-to-HDH-Controversy-Info/THURSDAY-Timetables-for-COMPARISON-1-2404921.html









One would EXPECT that on the DAY AFTER Maddies disappearance it would be EASY to remember who picked up Maddie and the twins... NOT SO!

* GERRY claims HE picked up Maddie and Kate picked up the twins
* KATE claims SHE picked up Maddie after going back to the apartment first, and cant remember who picked up the twins
* FIONA claims She went with KATE straight from the rec area
* CATRIONA cannot remember who picked Maddie up
* STACEY claims (in an informal interview) that the MOTHER picked up the twins

The creche records for the twins are MISSING for Thursday morning.
The police Diagram of Events for Thursday morning is BLACKED OUT!

DO THE POLICE SUSPECT "SOMETHING'?








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Re: #1 #2 #3 now the FOURTH (Mini Tennis Pt1) of MANY Discrepancies. Who Was Lying?

Post by HiDeHo on 08.07.18 18:00

One NEWLY discovered discrepancy (well I have only just discovered it)

The creche records for Thursday for the twins are missing from files, but in an informal interview Stacey tells us that the PARENTS dropped the twins off at 9.30am (Kate should have been playing tennis) 

Who was looking after the twins when Gerry (supposedly) dropped Maddie off at 9.10am (it was a 10 minute walk to Maddie creche. USUALLY twins were dropped off first!

Stacey says GERRY dropped them off in the afternoon at 2.30pm (same time as the last photo was taken) Records say it was KATE at 2.50pm (to allow for last photo?)


STACEY P Informal interview
3. That the children were dropped off by their parents at 9.30 and that the mother picked them up at 12.30;
4. That it was the father who dropped them off at 14.30 and that it was the mother who came to fetch them at 17.30;


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Re: #1 #2 #3 now the FOURTH (Mini Tennis Pt1) of MANY Discrepancies. Who Was Lying?

Post by sandancer on 08.07.18 18:56

@HiDeHo wrote:One NEWLY discovered discrepancy (well I have only just discovered it)

The creche records for Thursday for the twins are missing from files, but in an informal interview Stacey tells us that the PARENTS dropped the twins off at 9.30am (Kate should have been playing tennis) 

Who was looking after the twins when Gerry (supposedly) dropped Maddie off at 9.10am (it was a 10 minute walk to Maddie creche. USUALLY twins were dropped off first!

Stacey says GERRY dropped them off in the afternoon at 2.30pm (same time as the last photo was taken) Records say it was KATE at 2.50pm (to allow for last photo?)


STACEY P Informal interview
3. That the children were dropped off by their parents at 9.30 and that the mother picked them up at 12.30;
4. That it was the father who dropped them off at 14.30 and that it was the mother who came to fetch them at 17.30;




" and that it was the mother who came to fetch them at 5.30 " 

Yet Kate tells us that they were all at high tea with Gerry when she got back from her run on the beach !

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Re: #1 #2 #3 now the FOURTH (Mini Tennis Pt1) of MANY Discrepancies. Who Was Lying?

Post by HiDeHo on 09.07.18 2:48

One thing that has always amazed me is that the three Paynes, walking together to the tapas APPARENTLY met Matt walking up to the apartment to 'chivvy' them

However... the four of them all clam they met at different places....

Matt met them by the front entrance...

Fiona claims they met by the gate of Apartment 5A

David claims they met by the Swimming pool

Initially Dianne was VERY SURE they did not meet Matt at all!....

HOWEVER... In her rogatory interview Dianne remembers that Dave and/or Fiona REMINDED her! (Seems to be a LOT of reminding before the rogs...










This inspired the "Message to Matthew' which was meant as just a regular post but ended up on many websites with the message being sent to his hospital at the time.

Title: HiDeHo's Message to Matthew Oldfield
http://forum4.aimoo.com/madeleinemccanncontroversy/WELCOME-to-HDH-Controversy-Info/HiDeHo-s-Message-to-Matthew-Oldfield-1-2308268.html



This is the timetable that I used to discover the discrepancies between their statements


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Re: #1 #2 #3 now the FOURTH (Mini Tennis Pt1) of MANY Discrepancies. Who Was Lying?

Post by HiDeHo on 10.07.18 2:52

According to Kate and Gerrys May 4th statements they claimed Madeleine had asked why they didn't come because the TWINS, were crying.

May 11th Gerry CHANGED it to Sean and Madeleine

Sept 6th Kate CHANGED it to Madeleine.

Kate said in an interview that she would never have thought about that comment again if Madeleine hadn't been abducted... So WHY do Jane and Fiona claim she told them at the table on Thursday night?

Oddly, the didn't claim she said it was the TWINS (as per Kate and Gerry's statements the following morning...)

They repeated the CHANGED story, that it was Sean and Madeleine that cried....

Were they told the story AFTER Maddie disappeared and the story changed?  If so... WHY did they claim they were told at the table on Thursday night?


Was the comment REALLY said?

Was it to justify crying in the apartment?



Was it to suggest Maddie was still alive on Thursday?

Why was it changed?






















The timetable that highlighted the discrepancies in their statements....

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Re: #1 #2 #3 now the FOURTH (Mini Tennis Pt1) of MANY Discrepancies. Who Was Lying?

Post by HiDeHo on 10.07.18 12:27

Kate denies the crying in the first video...

Second video compares the three 'crying' episodes



RECOMMEND to turn volume down before starting vid...some people find the simulated crying distressing. (One of my very first vids)


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Re: #1 #2 #3 now the FOURTH (Mini Tennis Pt1) of MANY Discrepancies. Who Was Lying?

Post by Phoebe on 10.07.18 17:56

IMO what Kate is denying in the above video clip is the interviewer's suggestion that Madeleine and Sean were "very upset", rather than the claim there had been any crying. She would have been aware of the dim view the public had taken of them leaving little children alone at night while she and Gerry went off to wine and dine. She consistently down-played the crying episode in several other interviews as well as this one. She claimed in another that " they must have fallen asleep again (after waking and crying) very quickly and that Madeleine "moved  on" immediately after making this statement. I think she was attempting damage limitation. It was bad enough that they left such young children alone, but alone and crying smacks of heartless negligence given that they continued to leave them after Madeleine allegedly claimed they had been crying and wondering where their parents were!

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Re: #1 #2 #3 now the FOURTH (Mini Tennis Pt1) of MANY Discrepancies. Who Was Lying?

Post by Verdi on 10.07.18 21:51

It was Kate McCann who raised the subject in the first place, during her witness statement taken on 4th May 2007, by the PJ..

Between the day of the arrival, April 28th, and the time that Madeleine's disappearance was discovered, the interviewee says that she noticed nothing unusual. She reports only one episode where, on the morning of Thursday May 3rd, Madeleine asked the interviewee why she had not come to look in the bedroom when the twins were crying. The interviewee states that she had heard nothing and had therefore not gone into the bedroom. She thought her daughter's comment strange because it was the first time she had talked about it.

At that stage she wouldn't have known anything about Pamela Fenn's statement taken so many weeks after the event, or indeed any other possible witness.  On the night of Thursday 3rd, Jane Tanner and her other half Russell O'Brien were alternately in their own apartment - allegedly, if any of the McCann children were distressed, the Tanner/O'Brien's were only three doors away.  In a quiet resort at night chances are they would have heard a child crying/screaming.

I believe the event was but fabrication, another attempt to indicate that the McCann children were being watched by a stranger in preparation for abduction - remember Gerry McCann suggesting someone may have been lurking in apartment 5a when he checked on the children on the Thursday night.   What did it matter that different members of the group told different versions of the same story, there is no proof, it's just their word as with every other aspect of the case - their testimony alone and they know it!

There is no proof the children were left alone;  no proof the patio door was left unlocked;  no proof that the child checking system ever happened;  no proof no proof no proof - or in the words of Gerry McCann - no evidence no evidence no evidence.

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Re: #1 #2 #3 now the FOURTH (Mini Tennis Pt1) of MANY Discrepancies. Who Was Lying?

Post by HiDeHo on 10.07.18 22:56

I realise there are many issues regarding the 'crying' incidents.

I wanted to point out Discrepancy #3 that shows they CHANGED their statement from Madeleine saying the TWINS were crying to it becoming Madeleine and Sean a week later (and its the CHANGED version that Fiona and Jane claim even though they were supposedly told Thursday when Kate apparently was claiming it was the twins until the following morning May 4th Statement.

WHY did they change it?



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Re: #1 #2 #3 now the FOURTH (Mini Tennis Pt1) of MANY Discrepancies. Who Was Lying?

Post by Phoebe on 11.07.18 1:14

The cleaner, Maria da Silva, "confirmed" (in her statement) that there was a child's cot in the parent's bedroom on Wednesday morning. I do believe in the crying episode heard by Mrs. Fenn. I think the crying report changed from "the twins" to "Sean and I" to give the impression that all three children shared a bedroom every night, which may not have been the case. I also suspect that the McCanns feared somebody was bound to have heard Tuesday night's crying and deliberately changed the day to make any other report about  this, which might emerge, seem confused and unreliable. There was no reason for the police to suspect on May 4th that Madeleine hadn't been alive and well on that day. The nannies testimony and creche records stated that she was. Therefore there was no need to invent a crying episode on Wednesday to convince people that the child was still alive. I believe the crying episode is rooted in some kind of truth and that the McCanns were trying to preempt any reports of it by muddying the waters.

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Re: #1 #2 #3 now the FOURTH (Mini Tennis Pt1) of MANY Discrepancies. Who Was Lying?

Post by HiDeHo on 11.07.18 5:15

DISCREPANCY #4 (1 of...)

Who took the tennis photo and when?





IS THIS THE EXIF DATA FOR THIS PHOTO?












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Discrepencies

Post by willowthewisp on 11.07.18 14:22

Hi HiDeHo,You do of course realise,that whatever you uncover,there is a perfectly explainable valid reason for what has happened in regard to Madeleine McCann.

As per the bullshitter supremo Clarence Mitchell,alongside all of the Government "Illusionists",who have found nothing out after eleven years,Operation Grange, No one believes you anymore,its a farce!

Okay you've colluded to Cover Up what has happened to Madeleine McCann,that can be your "Official Version" until your blue in the face,people are Not buying the fiasco anymore,your making yourselves the laughing stock of the World?

Maybe people don't give a shit anymore,that all they can see are lies after lies espoused as the "Truth from finally starch white/Black uniforms" of fancy dress,who now sit in the House of Frauds,collecting £300.00 per day as their pay off,making sure certain proposed Laws never become Laws,that can be put into practice!
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Re: #1 #2 #3 now the FOURTH (Mini Tennis Pt1) of MANY Discrepancies. Who Was Lying?

Post by joyce1938 on 11.07.18 20:46

has anyone else recalled an evening ,when the macs kept the kids and took back to tennis courts where Gerry was playing .that was the time Maddie ran around and collected the tennis balls .The photo was taken there .???joyce1938
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