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An inspector calls you: The interrupted investigation

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An inspector calls you: The interrupted investigation




The Interrupted Investigation

Light and dark

The truth decides the face, not the make-up

Anyone who thinks that the excision of Jane Tanner’s sighting – the most significant development in the case since 2007 – leaves the rest of the group unscathed is living in dreamland.


The evidence demonstrates a collective effort to build a narrative of events based on an innocent passer-by being an “abductor” on May 3 – 10, by omission, invention and distortion. It isn't a  bolt-on that can be safely removed from the group’s evidence:  without it the whole rotten structure starts to crumble.


Too soon
The failed narrative can be seen to start with Madeleine McCann's pathetic but dangerous  legacy - the  sticker books.


In neither  book, written as the police were approaching, is there any mention  of Gerry McCann seeing his children on the “9.04” visit. In sticker book one Oldfield’s visit is described as having “seen twins” at 9.30ish. In the second his entire visit to the apartment is deleted. Not because a version of it didn't happen but presumably because they can't yet find a place to put it. Only the JT vision and, significantly,  the “10PM alarm” are constants. The juggling with the truth to make it fit neatly  around an abductor who would never be found is  transparent.


Then the  collusion among the critical members of the group goes on hold for troubled sleep and afterwards for their appointments at Portimao police HQ.


Too little
The police reports of May 4 are laughably devoid of most of the information that was afterwards fleshed out around the sighting. GM states that he checked and found the kids OK but thought the bedroom door was not in quite the same position it had been left in. Tanner’s sighting is there in only skeletal form but everyone points the police at it.


Over the weekend the timeline is written and printed and accounts hugely expanded to welcome and accommodate the stranger. GM now remembers significant details about his first visit, tying it in with what Oldfield saw, all leading to the conclusion that the abduction took place between 9.15 and 9.30. The description of the sighting is filled out in absurd and fictional detail. Mathew Oldfield, the most malleable of the group (“get down to reception and see what’s happening with the police!”) and Jane Tanner, the most vulnerable, become the foundations of the fairy story. As always Kate & Gerry McCann work from behind the scenes.


Oldfield’s embroidered version is given to the police on May 10; Gerry McCann adds more colour to his own visit. Most of the others are " unable to help" with critical details. The police treat it all with the derision it deserves.


Too late
A year later at the Leicester interviews the compromised ones try to extricate themselves from the lifetime danger of their position. They can’t. Their stories, from the open door to the ambiguous shutters, cannot accommodate a disappearance after 9.30. Payne, more helpful than he realises, says:
"…but you know and then you’re looking for information to, to try and fit in with what you thinks happened and then you know when, when we knew that we just thought, you know, that is it, that is who’s taken her.”


O’ Brien, sensing danger if the brittle Tanner’s vision is ever discredited, tries to rewrite his statement to make the Oldfield visit less critical, less dependent on his partner’s veracity.


“So you would like to remove this then?”
“Well I don’t…”
“If we remove”.
“Yeah, from”.
’This is the final check before Madeleine was noticed missing’ if we remove that?”
“Yeah, yeah, actually, yeah, it’s mainly me just commenting on what Matt said”.


Oldfield himself now tries to back off, aware of the horribly risky  position he’s in. In place of the original story – GM left the bedroom “very dark” at 9,05, Oldfield found it backlit somehow from the window – he now thinks it might have been moonlight through the patio doors that was brightening the room!


All futile, all too late. The door which opens and closes in Madeleine McCanns' bedroom is like a mocking symbol of the lethality of their collective position.Gerry McCann digs himself deeper and deeper into the mire every time he opens his mouth about that door: its final position now condemns the couple to an abductor before 9.30. He can never close it.


And what of that ghostly presence lurking in the room while Gerry McCann was there at 9.05, the one that comes and goes according to mood or need, so beautifully described by Dr McCann and so helpfully enlarged upon by that freak Mitchell. It won't come and go anymore: you can't pick the hunchbacked paedophile monster out of the garbage bucket where he was hiding and say, come on chum, we've got to move you to 9.55.


The whole  black comedy nightmare process can be seen in the files. It is impossible for them to rewrite their parts. Gerry and Kate McCann, known and notorious liars, now don’t even have the fig-leaf of the Tanner story to give them at least the possibility of veracity and are left horribly exposed, as their faces demonstrate.  Payne will find a way to save himself: people like Payne always will. The most vulnerable domino of the 7 is now out of the game, exactly how we don't know. Will the other "useful idiot", the most malleable one, be the next to fall?


So the fiction they created, which combined self-protection with the hallmark McCann soap-opera material so easily accepted by the credulous, (because it’s fiction! silly) –  a swarthy villain heading for escape  but a possible happy ending  for the child somewhere, somehow, Send for the helicopters! Close the borders! One day she’ll be released from her Algarve log cabin if we hope and pray! – gives way to  another, rather more real narrative, the only one around and one that they are all powerless to counter: that of a sinister figure carrying an inert child through the darkness down towards the deep sea, from which there is no return.


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Post on 01.07.18 8:03 by Imari

Beautiful, concise and damning. Brilliant.
Is it also of some interest to note that the now debunked Tannerman turns out to have been a GP who has 2 surgeries, one in Salisbury UK, and one within the enclosure of Porton Down the UK secret weapons establishment? Both places very much in the news lately re the Skripal Russiaphobic operation. 
It seems weird that a GP who took a holiday in PdL at that time, would be so unaware of its importance, that he would wait years to announce that he was the person being described as walking across that road with a child. It is unbelievable.

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Post on 01.07.18 11:21 by Juulcy

This is new to me... do you have a name and a link for this GP “Tannerman” ? I totally agree with you on the fact that it is unbelievable that his information came up years after the event.

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Post on 01.07.18 11:36 by Imari

He was named Julian Totman, I think this came from a recent RDH vid but found an article here: (are they trying to revise history and blame it in PdL police again?
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-detectives-spent-four-12495545
https://www.thomsonlocal.com/Dr-J-Totman-St-Ann-Street-Surgery/2680003/01722342000/
Maybe

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Post on 01.07.18 13:11 by Verdi

@Imari wrote:Is it also of some interest to note that the now debunked Tannerman turns out to have been a GP who has 2 surgeries, one in Salisbury UK, and one within the enclosure of Porton Down the UK secret weapons establishment? Both places very much in the news lately re the Skripal Russiaphobic operation.

For goodness sake come down to earth.

Dr Julian Totman is a general practitioner.  He worked for years at the St. Anne Street surgery in Salisbury and transfered to the Harcourt medical centre, Crane Bridge Road Salisbury at the beginning of this year, to replace a doctor who was retiring.

Now please let the gentleman get on with his life!

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Post on 01.07.18 13:29 by Imari

No!
All involved probably want to be left to get on with their lives, especially Kate and Gerry and Goncalo Amaral, but if he really ignored this for years and then came forward - rubbishing the main evidence used to support the abduction story, he is surely an important element. I can't believe that he didn't know about it all that time, especially with the extra significance and interest it would have to anyone who was in that place, at that time. One would surely take the time to examine one's own movements that night and reflect....he might well have seen the abduction being there in position around the critical time period, as he is no longer the suspect.

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Post on 01.07.18 14:01 by Verdi

@Imari wrote:No!
Then I must respectfully ask that you take your idle gossip back from whence it came i.e. twitter/facebook or wherever.

CMoMM is not a place to foster baseless theorizing.  I thank you!

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Post on 01.07.18 14:37 by Imari

This is not idle gossip at all, Dr Totman claims to be the man who Jane Tanner saw, he didn't come forward to say so for years, the loss of the sighting of a possible abductor, which had been key evidence for years, threatened further the Mccann's side of the story which was already thin. Please, what part of this is irrelevant?

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Post on 01.07.18 20:10 by Tony Bennett

Just for the record:

1  Dr Julian Totman did have, and may well still have, a separate surgery inside Porton Down

2  In Praia da Luz, his friend, Dr Paul Weinberger, who has strong connections with Porton Down, stayed in the next room to Dr Totman and his family

3  His wife, Jeni Weinberger, went out of her way, twice, to make statements about an alleged abductors she said she had seen

4  Dr Totman's wife recently told a newspaper that her husband was Tannerman, and the newspaper printed this absurd story

and

5  I asked the Met Police via an FOI Act request to confirm that Dr Julian Totman was indeed Tannerman, but they politely declined my request.

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Post on 01.07.18 20:28 by Verdi

@Imari wrote:This is not idle gossip at all, Dr Totman claims to be the man who Jane Tanner saw, he didn't come forward to say so for years, the loss of the sighting of a possible abductor, which had been key evidence for years, threatened further the Mccann's side of the story which was already thin. Please, what part of this is irrelevant?

If you check back you will see I purposely quoted the particular part of your post that I was replying to in order to avoid any confusion.

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Post on 02.07.18 16:07 by Verdi

@Tony Bennett wrote:Just for the record:

1  Dr Julian Totman did have, and may well still have, a separate surgery inside Porton Down

2  In Praia da Luz, his friend, Dr Paul Weinberger,

When next online, would you be so good as to provide a link to confirm this information.

I find it very hard to believe a general practioner would have a surgery within the Porton Down top security government biological warfare complex.

Thanks.

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Post on 05.07.18 21:13 by Tony Bennett

@Verdi wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:Just for the record:

1  Dr Julian Totman did have, and may well still have, a separate surgery inside Porton Down

2  In Praia da Luz, his friend, Dr Paul Weinberger,

When next online, would you be so good as to provide a link to confirm this information.

I find it very hard to believe a general practioner would have a surgery within the Porton Down top security government biological warfare complex.

Thanks.

@ Verdi     As yet, I have not been able to find the original source or link for the claim that Dr Julian Totman held, or still holds, a regular surgery inside Porton Down. It is one of those things that I feel sure that I have seen written down, but to date I cannot find the references. So my claim will for the moment at least have to be recorded as 'unsubstantiated'.

However, suggestions that that there is (1) a prior close connection between Drs Weinberger and Totman (2) a close connection between both of them and the McCanns and (3) a connection of some sorts between Totman and Porton Down seem to be indicted by the following:

A  The Weinbergers and the Totmans having apparently planned to holiday together at Praia da Luz in 2007 - suggesting a prior friendship and/or association of some duration      

B  Jeni Weinberger being very energetic in promoting a very dubious alleged 'sighting' of Madeleine, and then...

C  Repeating that sighting at the specific request of Kate McCann, so that it could be included in a documentary, and

D  Dr Totman's wife being apparently willing to tell newspapers that her husband was Totman.

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From time to time I get sent emails and papers/articles about the Madeleine McCann case from various people. This one may be of interest; this was forwarded to me by 'HB' who clearly has a very wide knowledge of the 'bio-engineering' and related scientific fields, and she offers some comment on Porton Down, Dr Paul Weinberger and Dr Julian Totman:

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No one really knows the true history of Porton Down, but we do know that they experimented on thousands of British servicemen, and that it was involved in the Human Genome Project at least to the extent that the Medical Research Council used it to store human cell lines for experimentation.  Thatcher, who was a chemist, took a particular interest in Porton and the chemical and biological weapons programme which she considered re-starting in the 80s – the same time as David Kelly headed up the facility.  Porton Down scientists have been investigated by the police on charges of manslaughter and murder, but the operation (Antler) was dropped when the CPS refused to prosecute in 2003.

In the 1980s the Thatcher government privatised parts of Porton Down which allowed international private investors to become involved in sensitive research in close collaboration with government. Porton Products, a subsidiary of Porton International, was a privately owned company that not only produced stocks of anthrax vaccine for the government but also began to branch out into different commercially viable areas. Job adverts in the New Scientist in the late 80s show that they were looking for scientists, biochemists, bacteriologists and technicians to be involved in such things as DNA sequencing, the production of genetically manipulated organisms, the development of therapeutic uses of toxins (botox), the development of vaccines, and a marketing executive to promote a rapidly growing product for the treatment of haemophilia.  Thus the facility at Porton became increasingly involved in much broader areas of biotechnology - the boundaries between weapons research and the broader area of health and diagnostics were becoming ever more blurred.  Moreover, companies seeded at Porton were often swallowed up by bigger life science corporations with Porton Products for instance being taken over by Ipsen Ltd, a large French corporation – boundaries and borders were becoming very fuzzy indeed in the world of biotechnology.

David Kelly, according to the MP Norman Baker (The Strange Death of David Kelly) worked at least partially on behalf of the intelligence services. He was certainly involved in debriefing scientist defectors from the Soviet Union. He even helped one microbiologist, Vladimir Pasechnik, who had been involved in the Soviet illegal germ warfare programme to set up a private company (Regma Biotechnologies) at Porton Down after his defection in 1989. 

As an aside, a recent ITV drama The Code of a Killer supposedly told the true story of Alec Jeffrey’s' discovery at Leicester University of DNA fingerprinting, and its use to catch the killer of two local schoolgirls.  The storyline gave a brief nod to the odd intermingling of the government and the private sector that was developing in this area especially in Britain under Thatcher’s influence..  ICI had patented the technique which Detective David Baker wanted to use to test around 5,000 men in the area, but the Home Office wanted to claim Crown Privilege with respect to the patent so that it would not have to pay the company. According to the programme, ICI approached Dennis Thatcher with regards to this who then transmitted the information to his wife who proceeded to lean on the Home Office. Not only did ICI keep its patent, but the British government increasingly privatized areas of forensic science (a logical area of state control) until it took the highly unusual step of privatizing all government forensic services in 2012. It is becoming increasingly difficult to know who’s who and who controls what in the murky world of biotech.

In the meantime, working in the broad field of biotechnology and in genetics specifically became a rather hazardous business.  The MP Norman Baker names a chapter of his book “Dead Scientists”. 

There has been much buzz on the internet about the apparently high rate of violent and unusual deaths among scientists - so much so that I am sure that I came across a paper that attempted to debunk the suspicions by showing that the rate was not statistically higher than that of the general population.  Nevertheless, poor Dr Pasechnik was found dead in his bed in on 21st November, 2001.  The police called his death “inexplicable.” The pathologist however, who apparently worked for the intelligence services, concluded that he died of a stroke. He died ten days after visiting a Dr Wiley, a professor of biochemistry and biophysics at Harvard University in Boston in the US, in order to discuss DNA sequencing. 

He had in fact lasted five days longer than Dr Wiley himself who had gone missing on the 16th November. His body was found on the 20th December in the Mississippi river. The official explanation was that he had been “blown” off a bridge and into the river by a gust of wind.  The rest of the chapter carries on in similar vein as the body count mounts.

 

The Porton Down Connection

 

           Mr Paul Weinberger was an Ocean Club guest during that week in 2007. It is believed that he worked for Enigma Diagnostics, one of the private biotech companies based at Porton Down.  This gentleman made dinner bookings at the Tapas Bar with a

           Dr Julian Totman another guest who I believe is a GP who is also from Salisbury in Wiltshire.

I believe that this provides evidence, albeit circumstantial, that Porton Down is closely linked to this case. The following is quoted from the Jill Havern forum:



Paul Weinberger was working for Enigma Diagnostics (part owned by the UK MoD) during his stay at the Ocean Club and he had recently relinquished his high profile role as Chair of BIVDA: "As I relinquished the Chairmanship of BIVDA I also changed jobs and I am now looking forward to representing the interests of UK start-up companies at BIVDA, while using my skills to develop a market for a new technology at Enigma Diagnostics."

The British In Vitro Diagnostics Association (BIVDA) is the national industry association for companies with major involvement and interest in the in vitro diagnostics (IVD) industry. BIVDA represents both manufacturers and distributors who are active in the UK. His role in in vitro diagnostics leads me further to believe that whatever came to a head at the Ocean Cub that week may revolve around some form of embryonic manipulation. The only thing that leads me to think that this may have been outside of national and international law is the elaborate secrecy. 

The presence of both a representative from Porton Down who knew the GP from neighbouring Salisbury well enough to dine together implies research applied in some way to a section of the local population and to their own offspring.

Between them Weinbergers and the Totmans had with them at Praia da Luz four young children aged between 11 months and 4 years of age.

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Post on 05.07.18 21:25 by Doug D

Totman's old practice website shows surgeries in Salisbury and Porton, with the following comment:

Porton Surgery

   All patients from Porton and the Bourne Valley including the Winterbournes, Gomeldon, Porton Down, Allington, Boscombe and Newton Toney are welcome to use the Porton branch surgery. 

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Post on 06.07.18 0:47 by Verdi

@Tony Bennett wrote:@ Verdi     As yet, I have not been able to find the original source or link for the claim that Dr Julian Totman held, or still holds, a regular surgery inside Porton Down. It is one of those things that I feel sure that I have seen written down, but to date I cannot find the references. So my claim will for the moment at least have to be recorded as 'unsubstantiated'.

Thank you for taking the time and trouble to respond in such detail.

It is however much as I suspected and you've confirmed - unsubstantiated, to be left on the back burner pending further information.

I have read your reply three times, at intervals and can see no reasons to suspect there is any truth in the claim that Dr Julian Totman the general practitioner, operated a surgery within the confines of the Porton Down Ministry of Defence research complex, nor can I see any evidence that Dr Julian Totman was a personal friend of the Weinburger/Weinberger character.  It is not even certain that Weinburger/Weinberger is he of Enigma Diagnostics, although I concede in all probability it is.  I don't however believe this information has any bearing on the possible fate of Madeleine McCann.  

The wife doesn't signify as it's documented that the McCanns intriguing campaign team went out of their way to locate potential witnesses that were willing to have their names attached to a press report relating to sightings - the Smith family being a perfect example. I don't doubt they were paid handsomely for their services - every wo/man has a price.

You Tony above all people, know the danger of passing off information as fact when it is but fiction.

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Post on 06.07.18 6:18 by Imari

It is remarkable that so many doctors are involved, and not fiction that Dr Totman came forward saying he thought he was the man described by Jane Tanner. This bizarre admission, so long after the event, by a man who was staying in PdL, and ought to be an intelligent and conscientious type and so, could be expected to have recognised his importance much earlier on (if it was him), took away one supporting strand for the abduction theory purported by the Mccanns. As the jemmied shutters has been disproven, and clearly an abuductor could not have climbed through an open window carrying MBM, there is nothing except the vanishing of the child to uphold that notion. While we don't want to get stuck down 'wrong' rabbit holes etc, it is surely worth examining sinister links as whatever was operating that week, and ever since, looks deep, mysterious and powerful.
I note that many people around me still think that 'Tanner man' is the suspect/abductor.

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Post on 06.07.18 12:40 by Verdi

@Imari wrote:It is remarkable that so many doctors are involved, and not fiction that Dr Totman came forward saying he thought he was the man described by Jane Tanner.
So many doctors are involved?  A claim I've seen over and over again but still no evidence to back it up.  Some of the McCann group were/are practicing medics, nothing strange there as they went on a short holiday as a group, apart from that it's all presumption and hearsay.  Dangerous territory when in the hands of the wrong people, as demonstrated daily on twitter and facebook.

The circumstances surrounding the sudden brief appearance of Dr Julian Totman remains a mystery, as far as I've seen so far it was but a press report and nothing more.  The press seldom, if ever, accurately report on anything, particularly the spoken word - I doubt they even spoke to the doctor face à face so until proven otherwise, fiction it is!

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Post on 06.07.18 15:37 by Imari

The Dr Totman report was confirmed by DC Andy Redwood in 2011, who said that another holiday maker had come forward, realising that Tanner Man was himself. The several articles about Dr Totman claim that he had come forward right at the beginning, but that nobody took any notice. Kate, in her book refers to JT 's sighting as if they never got to hear anything about Dr Totman, and perhaps they didn't but I wonder that he didn't contact them himself to say that they shouldn't be placing their hopes in following up that particular lead - a lead upon which the abduction theory seems still to hang. Dr Totman says it was himself - is that unreliable? Of course it could be but if it is true then frustration must have been dreadful as he saw both police forces and all the investigations carrying on as if he had never spoken up, until 2011 that is.
Please may I ask, Verdi, whether your information leads you to believe that Tanner Man was the abductor, a total invention, a mistake or something else?

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Post on 06.07.18 16:20 by Verdi

@Imari wrote:Please may I ask, Verdi, whether your information leads you to believe that Tanner Man was the abductor, a total invention, a mistake or something else?

Total invention - beyond a shadow of doubt.

DCI Andy Redwood never named the man who allegedly came forward to say he might have been the person witneseed by Jane Tanner.  It remains a mystery as to why he was so adamant during a  broadcast of Crimewatch, without revealing any detail.  Not that there is any reason why he should, afterall if the person did exist, his privacy should be paramount - afterall, through the eyes of the law he's not the criminal.  A Freedom of Information request was sent by Mr Bennett asking for clarification about Dr Totman, the reply to which declined the information requested.  It should be left there.

I have never had any faith in Andy Redwood's revelation moment, I've always thought it to be an invention to clear Jane Tanner's name and to pave the way for a new carefully constructed witness and/or suspect.

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Post on 06.07.18 16:44 by Imari

Thanks. That seems right to me and Dr J T is another enigma

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Post on 06.07.18 20:01 by Imari

I have found the reference for Dr Totman/Weinburger re Porton Down it's 20 minutes into part 3 of 'Why the cover up?' by Richard D Hall (https://www.youtube.com/watch) He mentions poss connection with Big Pharma and experimental drugs - he is just purporting a theory.
Presence of Podesta brothers in PdL using 'Clem's' house that week was also confirmed in the following article (sorry, but I don't know the reputation/reliability of the writers) which shows a teenage girl, sad looking, ears, face shape, hair parting/growth pattern and cheekbones like MBM and her age progression pix, playing a card game with at least one Podesta.
Whether she is MBM or not I feel very troubled seeing her there as he swaggers the card he is about to put on the table. What will it mean for her? http://victuruslibertas.com/2016/11/do-john-and-tony-podesta-have-a-connection-with-missing-child-madeleine-mccann/

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Post on 06.07.18 22:07 by Verdi

Sheer unadulterated nonsense not even worthy of repetition - throw it back on the cutting room floor where it belongs.

CMoMM is not the place to propagate the imaginings of a dangerous conspirator with menace aforethought.

bignono

ETA: I am not referring to Richard D Hall.

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Post on 09.07.18 15:20 by Julie R

@Doug D wrote:Totman's old practice website shows surgeries in Salisbury and Porton, with the following comment:

Porton Surgery



   All patients from Porton and the Bourne Valley including the Winterbournes, Gomeldon, Porton Down, Allington, Boscombe and Newton Toney are welcome to use the Porton branch surgery. 
 Here is the source that this quote came from. Note that St Annes Street Surgery (where Totman worked) did not move to Porton until 2017, after a merger with two other practices. 

www.thecastlepractice.nhs.uk/website/J83026/files/practiceleaflet.doc

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Post on 09.07.18 21:48 by Verdi

Dr Julian Totman is a General Practitioner who has worked for many years in surgeries slash medical centres in Wiltshire. The village of Porton situated near to Salisbury is not part of the government's Porton Down Science Park, a restricted access complex. In the neighbourhood yes but two entirely separate entities.

There is no reason whatsoever to assume that Dr Totman was in any way connected with the fate of Madeleine McCann.

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Post on 10.07.18 7:19 by Imari

Seems that RDH was mistaken in claiming that Doc T had surgery in Porton Down establishment, but he does say that and I have asked him whether he has any more info, but unless we are to make inferences based on the location of his surgery it really doesn't make a difference.
What makes a difference is whether or not he accepts that he was that man seen by JTanner carrying a child.
Dr Totman would surely have been furious at being named as a man who came forward to say he was Tannerman right at the start and then seeing Tannerman remaining as a main suspect and not being acknowledged for some absolutely crucial information.
The Mail published that he was ignored for years;

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5698933/Madeleine-McCann-police-spent-four-years-trying-ID-man-GP-said-him.html

The article is recent : By MARTIN ROBINSON, UK CHIEF REPORTER FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 10:29, 7 May 2018 | UPDATED: 16:05, 7 May 2018

and that the Portuguese police failed to include his info in their reckoning (and indeed it is not in the PJ files - as far as I have found) and Mail put photos of him in the paper in that article.
Was all that, about Doc T coming forward and being ignored, made up and Dr T has never and does not now say it was him? As you say, Verdi, Andy Redwood does not name a person, just says that somebody has come forward -
Does anyone know, please, whether Dr J Totman confirms or denies that Tannerman was probably himself?
Is all this of no importance?

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Post on 10.07.18 11:51 by Verdi

@Imari wrote:Does anyone know, please, whether Dr J Totman confirms or denies that Tannerman was probably himself?
Is all this of no importance?
What you see is what you get - a tabloid blitz of misinformation.  There's been quite a few 'witnesses' come forward in more recent times reported by the UK press, with tales of information they gave to the police who never contacted them afterwards.  You can build any number of sinister or indeed innocent theories to explain this but without any actual evidence it leads down a blind alley.

The UK media are not worthy of notice, they will only tell you what they want you to hear.  They represent the establishment, it's nothing short of a propaganda machine designed to influence public opinion.

Is it of any importance - I doubt it, not in the grand scheme of things.  What is important is exposing the Metropolitan Police and it's Operation Grange for what it is - a charade!

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