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Post by pauloalexandre on 05.10.20 17:17

@Verdi wrote:This Genre of internet myth and Gossip NEEDS to be nipped in the Bud before it grows Stalks.
Disinformation will always exist. 

There's nothing we can do about it except to fight against it, whenever the opportunity arises.

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Post by pauloalexandre on 05.10.20 17:26

@Silentscope wrote:@Verdi 

It may be just another coincidence, but if you look at Google street View you will see that the side Door to the Church faces the Restaurent. 50 m across the Car Park outside.

There are other (unconfirmed) Reports of people using this door in relation to Praying and Removal theories.

I think it bears further Investigation. A Restaurant would also doubtless have a Coolroom or something like an Ice Machine.

Maybe “Smithman” was headed there? 

If the Tapas bookings are Indeed  “Faked” how do we know where they were on Tuesday night?
Hang on!

You first have to look at the evidence, and look at it enough so you can come to a sensible conclusion as to what, how, who and why (in that order!), rather than being drawn into this rumour mill about churches, doors, keys, ice machines or any other theory someone wants to throw at you.

Again, let the evidence guide you, and not the other way around.

If you do that, you might get somewhere.

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Post by Silentscope on 05.10.20 18:17

It has not been proved (to me at least) what Evidence is Real and what could have been Faked. Maybe the Video itself is a Fake? I do not know who uploaded it or why. It may be proved to be unreliable- if so, Fine.

Photos, Crèche bookings, Tapas Bookings, what if they are all Altered or Faked to cover the reality. This is of constant discussion.

If “Smithman” is a Fabrication, it has not been proved to be one. The McCanns were not overly interested.

If he is Real, it may have been Gerry and Maddie. It may not be, and could have been a Local. Open to Arguments. Sure.

If other Investigations have checked the Irish Bar for Freezers in the past, in relation to previous Suspects, why not this one?

Allegedly it was used, the Church and it’s Key were used. They are only separated by a Car Park. I do not find it Illogical to check it out.

Unless someone can Prove why it can be Safely ruled out?
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Post by pauloalexandre on 05.10.20 18:46

@Silentscope wrote:If “Smithman” is a Fabrication, it has not been proved to be one. The McCanns were not overly interested.
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t16522-the-controversial-smithman-debate-all-links-in-one-thread#404284

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Post by Silentscope on 05.10.20 19:13

Regardless of “Smithman” and his Status, can it be established that the Group WAS DEFINITELY at the Tapas Bar on Tuesday night?

In Mrs Fenns crying Statement it is not clear from where the Parents returned. Were they called back by OC STAFF from the Tapas Bar - or did they just arrive from somewhere?

The Tapas Booking could have been “Back dated” to cover them, or is this impossible for some reason that has already been established?
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Post by pauloalexandre on 05.10.20 19:25

@Silentscope wrote:Regardless of “Smithman” and his Status, can it be established that the Group WAS DEFINITELY at the Tapas Bar on Tuesday night?
Yes!!!

Many witnesses place them at that area, including one lady called Najoua Chekaya who said was invited by the Tapas 9 to join their group for a drink, not to mention the documents which show the reservations made at that restaurant.

With all due respect Silentscope, have you actually researched the case? If you haven't, what is the point of posting on this forum, if you have no knowledge of the case?

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Post by Silentscope on 05.10.20 19:37

Yes, you are right Paulo, I think there is just so much to keep Track of I must have forgotten which Day the Chekaya incident was on.

I consider the Video now well and truly “Busted”!

Thank you.
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Post by Verdi on 05.10.20 21:55

@pauloalexandre wrote:
@Verdi wrote:This Genre of internet myth and Gossip NEEDS to be nipped in the Bud before it grows Stalks.
Disinformation will always exist. 

There's nothing we can do about it except to fight against it, whenever the opportunity arises.

Indeed - but not here on CMOMM.

It's taken years to get where we are today and I sure ain't going to let it slip back to days of old.

Over time, you wise up to the genuine v. non-genuine and I can say with confidence, I am seldom if ever wrong - although I say so myself..  Might sound a bit arrogant but nonetheless a statement of fact.

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Post by Verdi on 06.10.20 1:33

@Silentscope wrote:Regardless of “Smithman” and his Status, can it be established that the Group WAS DEFINITELY at the Tapas Bar on Tuesday night?

In Mrs Fenns crying Statement it is not clear from where the Parents returned. Were they called back by OC STAFF from the Tapas Bar - or did they just arrive from somewhere?

The Tapas Booking could have been “Back dated” to cover them, or is this impossible for some reason that has already been established?

Now what the hell are you talking about Silentscope?

Admittedly, this thread is a place to post 'Unorthodox Theorizing' but please make some sense and don't be surprised if you are challenged.

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t16808-the-tale-of-pamela-fenn-a-crying-game#415799

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t16777-the-tale-of-smithman#414349

Your approach to this case is so half-hearted.  If you have a serious interest then I strongly advise that you read and absorb before making trite comments about everything and nothing.

In your very short membership here, some while ago you said goodbye to the forum  having been satisfied that the German prisoner was not involved in any way with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, so said you.  It wasn't long before you returned with more of the same vacillating commentary on the subject and I hasten to add, moving on to the case of Madeleine McCann's disappearance in general.

Talk for talk sake seems to be your maxim - gut feeling tells me you are playing games.

No problem in itself but it would be extremely helpful if you could drop the garden fence gossip in favour of fact, evidence and informed commentary.  Looking for what ifs and maybes leads nowhere.

That is what CMOMM is about.

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Post by Silentscope on 06.10.20 19:13

@Silentscope wrote:Yes, you are right Paulo, I think there is just so much to keep Track of I must have forgotten which Day the Chekaya incident was on.

Yes, I should have definitely remembered that before Posting.

Then I would not have bothered. 

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