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Post by Phoebe on 13.10.17 13:20

Retired Met Police chief Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe is being made a Lord despite overseeing failed 'witch hunt' on historic sex cases

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Post by willowthewisp on 13.10.17 14:19

@Phoebe wrote:Retired Met Police chief Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe is being made a Lord despite overseeing failed 'witch hunt' on historic sex cases

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4974564/Ex-Met-Police-chief-Sir-Bernard-Hogan-Howe-lord.html#ixzz4vOEr5PLL 
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Hi Phoebe,thanks for the posting connection?
Now if any sane person within the UK thinks there has Not been a systematic Cover up on child abuse,this appointment to the "House of Lords" of Sir Bernard Hogan Howe to become a Lord?
Which should be an embarrassment to the Country of how deceitful you can be in not answering questions of Police probity,throughout his career as a Police Officer,Hillborough,Queens Police Protection Officers,Fraud,drug dealing, a closeness to the Family of Madeleine McCann,Fund raising in Liverpool,death of Brenda Leyland,dossier from a family member,Martin Brunt,hounding this person public interest used as an  excuse, shown on Sky News Corporation ,every fifteen minutes for hrs on end before ,the person decided to end her life?
In the 1960's a well known family had mixed with certain Lords and Ladies,where young children adolescents were procured to the elite,upper echelons from within Society,but no prosecutions came out of any investigations by the UK Police forces,Barristers met certain Lords,some(barrister's)  known as Two bellies,as they liked to have Two full meals whilst ascertaining as to whether or not certain parties would be committed to Public prosecutions for their peccadillos with young children?
Social Care Homes in and around the Boroughs of London were to become targets for youngsters to facilitated from these Homes introduced into Prostitution,the Care homes notified the Metropolitan Police Force,but the Police couldn't find many associations to these Criminal activities,they obviously had more important things to investigate?
Then you had the,"Soho connections" protection rackets,that went on fro years with so many individuals having access to the"Paper weight"liftings,it was just One or Two rotten apples that had fallen into the cesspit?
Then you have the Murder of Stephen Lawrence and Racism rears its ugly Head once again,where the main witness(Dwanne)was targeted by the Metropolitan Police has the person to have committed the murder?
When their own Officers had seen an off duty Police Officer receive an envelope from a man representing members of one of the families involved with the crime of Murder of Stephen Lawrence,the Police then tapped the Lawrence Family as to being credible?
Sir Bernard Hogan Howe has even given access to Liberal Democrats,Jennie Jones from the House of Lords to have Under cover surveillance Officers follow what they were doing in the House of Lords,now he will sit on the same benches,Your having a fucking laugh arent yer??
Now that is one way of having a"wire tap"place the bastard next to her on a minimum of£300 a day expenses aswell,you couldn't make this hypocracy up could you?
Let us hope that Prime minister Theresa may stops this appointment,as Jim Gamble will be pissing himself for weeks on end,Operation Grange,connection,Scotland yard 2010 review?
I suppose,going by the comments,if it was a popularity contest,he wouldn't be going to the House of Commons on the Daily Mail comments,so he is Not popular??
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Re: Lord Hogan-Howe

Post by sar on 13.10.17 16:11

Holy ship!

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Post by Phoebe on 13.10.17 16:58

@ willowthewisp. Oops! Only meant to get the headline to come up. Fingers must have been in shock at seeing dear Bernard getting his backhander for "services rendered"!

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Post by willowthewisp on 13.10.17 17:13

@Phoebe wrote:@ willowthewisp. Oops! Only meant to get the headline to come up. Fingers must have been in shock at seeing dear Bernard getting his backhander for "services rendered"!
hi Phobe,not your fault I know but how can this person be given this position,I mean,honestly,the blind,leading the blind comes to mind?
sorry if i have offended you,but his appointment should make everyone shudder with what he has not uncovered?
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Post by Doug D on 13.10.17 19:26

Unless your name is Stephenson, who bailed out after only two years, the House of Lords pretty much goes with the job.

   
19871993Sir Peter ImbertQPM
19932000Sir Paul CondonQPM
20002005Sir John StevensQPM
20052008Sir Ian BlairQPM
20092011Sir Paul StephensonQPM
20112017Sir Bernard Hogan-HoweQPM
2017Cressida DickCBE, QPM

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Post by Verdi on 13.10.17 20:36

@Doug D wrote:Unless your name is Stephenson, who bailed out after only two years, the House of Lords pretty much goes with the job.

   
19871993Sir Peter ImbertQPM
19932000Sir Paul CondonQPM
20002005Sir John StevensQPM
20052008Sir Ian BlairQPM
20092011Sir Paul StephensonQPM
20112017Sir Bernard Hogan-HoweQPM
2017Cressida DickCBE, QPM
Yes indeed - par for the course.  No big deal! 

The House of Lords is a clubhouse for retired supremos and assorted decrepit aristocrats where they can chew tobacco, sup bubbly and down caviar canapés  - all at the tax payers expense of course.

I see it as one of those exclusive membership only clubs (called gentleman's club in days of yore), a total waste of public money that should have been abolished long ago.  It serves no constructive purpose. 

Bernard Hogan-Howe should fit in nicely.  Home from home.

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Re: Lord Hogan-Howe

Post by Phoebe on 13.10.17 21:37

@willowthewisp wrote:
@Phoebe wrote:@ willowthewisp. Oops! Only meant to get the headline to come up. Fingers must have been in shock at seeing dear Bernard getting his backhander for "services rendered"!
hi Phobe,not your fault I know but how can this person be given this position,I mean,honestly,the blind,leading the blind comes to mind?
sorry if i have offended you,but his appointment should make everyone shudder with what he has not uncovered?
 Ah no. Not at all offended, other than by the fact that this establishment "tool" has been rewarded for deliberately presiding over repeated failure to seek justice without fear or favour. It's sickening but we have it here in Ireland as well. So far here, one Justice Minister and two Garda commissioners have recently bitten the dust when covering up scandals finally caught up with them. Believe it or not Sir Bernard was mooted as a possible replacement by one media outlet! Today we have calls for a public inquiry after police allegedly failed to detain a known criminal, despite him committing several serious crimes. It is alleged he was being used as a police informer and therefore, protected, leaving him free to shoot his partner and kill an unarmed police officer. What happened to the days when police were the good guys?

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Post by willowthewisp on 14.10.17 6:54

@Phoebe wrote:
@willowthewisp wrote:
@Phoebe wrote:@ willowthewisp. Oops! Only meant to get the headline to come up. Fingers must have been in shock at seeing dear Bernard getting his backhander for "services rendered"!
hi Phobe,not your fault I know but how can this person be given this position,I mean,honestly,the blind,leading the blind comes to mind?
sorry if i have offended you,but his appointment should make everyone shudder with what he has not uncovered?
 Ah no. Not at all offended, other than by the fact that this establishment "tool" has been rewarded for deliberately presiding over repeated failure to seek justice without fear or favour. It's sickening but we have it here in Ireland as well. So far here, one Justice Minister and two Garda commissioners have recently bitten the dust when covering up scandals finally caught up with them. Believe it or not Sir Bernard was mooted as a possible replacement by one media outlet! Today we have calls for a public inquiry after police allegedly failed to detain a known criminal, despite him committing several serious crimes. It is alleged he was being used as a police informer and therefore, protected, leaving him free to shoot his partner and kill an unarmed police officer. What happened to the days when police were the good guys?
Hi Phobe,Bernard,mentions Dixon of Dock Green as his mentor,now I know Dixon of dock Green was a made up role in a Soap style Police programme,if only this was the case,for the thin lipped often seen coughing clearing his throat on specific replies to Operation Grange,Madeleine McCann,LBC broadcasts or feigning he doesn't know which Operation the caller is responding too,blag?  
That's the problem Phobe,the behaviour of the Saviour,Hogan Howe have openly abused their position,much like it seems to be a requisite to gain such promotions onto the House of Commons,now will this place be more safe with him in the building,putting the gentile souls to light sleeps after their fine meals and fortified wines,god forbid his maiden speech,perhaps Jennie Jones might kick him in the goolies for services rendered on his snooping under cover Police Officers?
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Post by BlueBag on 14.10.17 7:24

Dixon of Dock Green had a script he had to stick to.
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Post by willowthewisp on 14.10.17 14:40

@BlueBag wrote:Dixon of Dock Green had a script he had to stick to.
Hi bluebag,are you saying that a former Metropolitan Police Service Forces,Chief,needs to stick to a script,otherwise he drifts off mentioning dead little girls,then suddenly become once again,"A missing girl",LBC Radio,operation Grange,Faux Pah,freudian slip,eh,Bernard,which one?
How come you(Sir Bernard) Never mention the Crime dogs,Eddie,Keela,that Martin Grime took to Portugal,to search for Madeleine McCann clues,indicators,17 alerts to clothing,car Key fobs,Renault Scenic boot,hired by the McCann family,friends Twenty five days after Madeleine had been reported missing,ah but that has been accounted for in the"Cross Contamination process"another one of those "coincidental moments"that always seem to appear in Police Investigations?
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Post by Tony Bennett on 17.10.17 9:23

Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe has served his establishment masters very well indeed.

He has overseen Operation Grange for several years - and under his watch Metropolitan Police corruption has grown like a cancer.

His senior staff have made blunder after blunder as the Daily Mail article shows.


As Phoebe posted, he has been duly rewarded by being made a Lord:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4974564/Ex-Met-Police-chief-Sir-Bernard-Hogan-Howe-lord.html

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Post by MayMuse on 17.10.17 9:40

.....Hogwash???

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Post by aquila on 17.10.17 9:48

@Tony Bennett wrote:Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe has served his establishment masters very well indeed.

He has overseen Operation Grange for several years - and under his watch Metropolitan Police corruption has grown like a cancer.

His senior staff have made blunder after blunder as the Daily Mail article shows.


As Phoebe posted, he has been duly rewarded by being made a Lord:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4974564/Ex-Met-Police-chief-Sir-Bernard-Hogan-Howe-lord.html

Lord Hogan Howe of __________ ?
Hopelessness?
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Post by Nina on 17.10.17 10:39

Ah well, there is a silver lining behind the cloud.....................

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/new-peerages-get-15-year-time-limit-jcshs5jmv

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Post by Doug D on 17.10.17 11:18

If they seriously want to shrink the House of Lords, they could just stop appointing the buggers and giving out the expected 'jobs for the boys'. The top end must die off relatively quickly in any event, as they are mostly pretty ancient.

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Post by willowthewisp on 17.10.17 11:42

@Nina wrote:Ah well, there is a silver lining behind the cloud.....................

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/new-peerages-get-15-year-time-limit-jcshs5jmv
Hi Nina, I know the article states only fifteen Years service in the House of Lords,but just think about the amount of Laws that could be amended,altered to how certain Institutions operate(Police)Internet spying regulations,Benefits,Pensions?

It just isn't about money,well it is really,but if you attend the Lords to all days allowances at £300+expenses,which are not taxable,multiplied by say 245 days x 15 yrs equals One million and one hundred and two thousand pounds per person and there are at least 800 of them,paid for by the plebs in society,yes,jobs for certain Boys and Girls?
Then we have the other 650 MP's on minimum £74,000 plus expenses,roughly£50,000,so £125,000 per annumx 650 about£82 Million pounds per year,care of the plebs,ker ching?
So these fine up standing people have the"Power"to control the masses,dictating your pension benefits,your non work entitlements,how much is paid into your local Authority?  
Yes the"Gravy Train" in and around Westminster?
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Post by aquila on 17.10.17 11:43

In all seriousness, how can a police force/service ever hope to capture/instill public confidence when it continually whinges of lack of funding to serve and protect, whilst at the same time using around £12+ million on a saga/charade to allegedly discover what happened to a little 3 year old girl.

Sir BHH, the man in charge who had a laughable PR exercise where he boasted of arresting someone at every rank, interrupted a camera crew to go get'em and fought the plight of a taxi driver who hadn't been paid for a journey.

I don't need to imagine what regular police officers who dealt with that particular nonsense think.
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Post by willowthewisp on 17.10.17 12:01

@aquila wrote:In all seriousness, how can a police force/service ever hope to capture/instill public confidence when it continually whinges of lack of funding to serve and protect, whilst at the same time using around £12+ million on a saga/charade to discover what happened to a little 3 year old girl.

Sir BHH, the man in charge who had a laughable PR exercise where he boasted of arresting someone at every rank, interrupted a camera crew to go get'em and fought the plight of a taxi driver who hadn't been paid for a journey.

I don't need to imagine what regular police officers who dealt with that particular nonsense think.
Hi aquila,I don't think you can include the arrest carried out when Sir Bernard was a Police inspector,much as he would like to,as the person never appeared in a court of Law for a conviction, I believe it was a PR staged event for the cameras,Bernard must have had a word with Clarence Mitchell of how to boost his ego more?

He'll do well sitting next to another convict Lord Archer?
Isn't it fascinating,you cannot become an MP if you have a Criminal Record,but if you then gain a criminal record(Archer,Perjury)in this case the Conservatives promoted dear Jeffery into the House of Lords?
Yet Lester Piggot was stripped of his knighthood for robbing the Queen(Tax payer) and went to prison,where dear old Doddy receives a Knighthood for his charity Work and avoided prison for Tax evasion,both part of the same system of Government,in the UK?
Perhaps,Lester should have opted to be tried in Liverpool Crown Court like Doddy did,where he was also allowed breaks in the trial to consumate a child with his wife,his tickling stick wasn't working on these occasions and Doddy still remains childless?
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