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Post by JRP on 16.10.17 11:05

Did they know each other, had they met previously?

"He gave me one of his looks and and a giant glass of brandy"

If someone you have only just met for the first time gives a certain look, how could it be described as one of his looks. Surely to describe it such, you'd have had to have seen it before?
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Post by Verdi on 16.10.17 12:28

@JRP wrote:Did they know each other, had they met previously?
I doubt it - at least I see no reason to think they were known to each other.  If reports are to be believed, Clement Freud had a liking for pubescent children, not three year olds.  Even if child sex abuse features in connection with Madeleine's disappearance, I don't believe the McCanns or their group of friends would be moving in the same circles as the likes of Freud.

Clarence Mitchell however, is a strong contender having wallowed in the murky world of public relations, journalism and politics.  Neither would I rule out Robert Murat's connections.  Sally Eveleigh, for instance, was quite eager to brag about her professional/personal relationship with Max Clifford, another influential PR pundit - now luxuriating at Her Majesty's pleasure.

For interest sake..



One of his looks ^^^

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Post by Liz Eagles on 17.10.17 17:08

Thank you Verdi for posting the above video. For every single child (including myself) who has suffered and survived paedophilic sexual abuse, this is a stark reminder of how devastating it is to have experienced depravity.

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Post by elliem on 17.10.17 23:03

Aquila , my heart and thoughts are with you!!! Cannot imagine what u have survived . Tried to protect my two, now have grandchildren to worry for. Watched This Morning re; Kids Club"?? Anyone else see it? Claims government should NOT be reviewing collapse ?
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Post by Verdi on 18.10.17 1:52

aquila wrote:Thank you Verdi for posting the above video. For every single child (including myself) who has suffered and survived paedophilic sexual abuse, this is a stark reminder of how devastating it is to have experienced depravity.
eek sad ? .... roses grouphug  

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Post by BlueBag on 18.10.17 7:02

@elliem wrote:Aquila , my heart and thoughts are with you!!! Cannot imagine what u have survived . Tried to protect my two, now have grandchildren to worry for. Watched This Morning re; Kids Club"?? Anyone else see it? Claims government should NOT be reviewing collapse ?
Who claimed that?
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Post by sar on 18.10.17 16:16

....but don't worry!!! CBGT has got her version of the story / truth out in a hardback book form available in all good bookshops!!! (Insert Quentin Blake style illustration of CB grinning with "quirky" glasses & "wacky" clothing) Wait!!! They,ve only gawn an' dun a bled din' musical!!!! Tarara Boom Dey!!
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Post by Liz Eagles on 18.10.17 17:07

Harvey Whatever is the tip of the iceberg. He has been outed because of something very unrelated. Ask credible journalists of the New York Times for the truth.
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Post by willowthewisp on 18.10.17 17:31

aquila wrote:Harvey Whatever is the tip of the iceberg. He has been outed because of something very unrelated. Ask credible journalists at the New York Times.
Hi aquila,I am not defending Harvey Weinstein or any actions he may have had with actresses,consensual or Not.

It is thought that Mr Weinstein has been possibly made a"Scapegoat"in the deliberate unearthing of so many persons in such a short time scale,over such a long period of the,"Sexual Acts"that may have been carried out,30 yrs.
Mr Weinstein has had close working relationships to Mr Steve Bannon,who has recently left the employment of the President of the USA,Donald Trump?
Mr Bannon had provided or facilitated funds to Mr Weinstein's film Industry for a number of years,Mr Weinstein had recently produced a film,Miral from the Palastine conflicts with Israel,which casts certain verified acts that targeted,Miral's Family and friends during their life time struggles,to try to live a normal life during a conflict of Two or more Countries involvement?
I some how just do not think it is about sexual misconduct in Mr Weinsteins case,it could be political,as Mr Murdoch has relations to Mathew Freud and has distinct associations,MSM to Donald Trump and Benjamin?
It really is a murky World,with these conduits thrown into the mash tin?
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Post by Liz Eagles on 18.10.17 17:37

It's not about sexual misconduct for goodness' sake.

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Post by willowthewisp on 18.10.17 17:55

aquila wrote:It's not about sexual misconduct for goodness' sake.
Hi aquila,the original article states what the PR people have known for so long about what has been covered up for so long?
I quoted maybe wrongly about sexual misconduct in regard to Mr Weinstein,but if Mr Freud has worked for Mr Weinstein in any way as a PR representative,he Matthew Freud,may have covered up what he knew about Harvey Weinstein, be it sexual or not?
It is down to Politics and who is associated to who in a very"Dirty deceitful world"of what is truthful or Not truthful,You pay your money you take your chance?
Mr Murdoch and his chums,Donald,Benjamin are not prepared to reveal their dalliances of what they have been associated to in their past,but they're well versed to chuck anyone else under a slow moving vehicle,to disseminate what they may have done,money Laundering,whoops it's now known as a repackaging of our finances,in former hotel names?

"It is what they want you to see" to opposite,"to the right to know the Truth"aka Madeleine McCann's ten year case,we are where we are in Madeleine's case,only down to the Portugal legal system giving access to their Court case of papers,think about that?  
The UK Police have and will not Reveal any Information on an ongoing case,the public are told what they need to know and only that? 
History of UK Policing is now being uncovered by various sources of how corruption is affecting the UK Policing methods,unless your inside a "Special clan"that protects themselves at all costs,they'll be forced out on Early retirement packages,with No cases to answer,Shredders do your business and along with that,Criminal Evidence to disappear,never to be found,Hard copies deleted,the computer broke,too old to fix,scrapped.  The Hard drives will have been reformatted to make it impossible to access the Hard drives or information previously stored their,data protection Acts?
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Post by sharonl on 01.11.18 22:36

@Jill Havern wrote:How the teachings of Islam could help us prevent more sexual abuse scandals

Harvey Weinstein is just another case of a powerful man abusing women because we live in a society that lets him get away with it, but we can change that

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/harvey-weinstein-islam-sexual-assault-rape-womens-rights-a8001521.html#commentsDiv

He was making donations to Hilary Clinons campaigns & supporting Obama.  This goes back to what I say about the number of honoured people supporting the McCanns and how they got their honours.


Sir Clement Freud
Sir Phillip Green
Sir Richard Branson
Sir Cliff Richard
And many more.

in 2006, Tony Blair was being questioned under caution in the cash for honours scandal.  It would be interesting to know if people like Sir Clement Freud and Sir Jimmy Saville ever made loans or donations to his cause and if they did were they legal and were they disclosed? 

Could this be the reason that so many honoured people support the McCanns?

Could this be the reason that elite paedophiles do not get exposed until they die?

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Post by Verdi on 01.11.18 23:01

Harvey Weinstein is just another case of a powerful man abusing women because we live in a society that lets him get away with it....

Amen !!!  Worse still child abuse !!!

As suggested above ^^^ give 'em a peerage - safe for life.

People shy away from severe measures such as the death penalty, shock horror how could anyone think of such a thing in this, the 21st century.  So what's the accepted alternative - stick 'em somewhere safe for a few months/years like institution at the tax payers expense, spend thousands per-head on therapy and rehabilitation, make excuses about upbringing and/or social difficulties.  Then let 'em back on the streets to do the same thing again.

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Post by Jill Havern on 13.03.20 16:14

That's gone on twitter big grin

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Post by PeterMac on 13.03.20 16:17

And mention of Freud upthread, and his sudden close friendship with the Mccanns, 
brings us inevitably to Steel, and his sudden close friendship with the McCanns, 
and thence to Smith, friend of Steel, and sharer of an office with Freud . . .

PE obviously.  Included in full for purposes of research.


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Post by Tony Bennett on 14.03.20 9:09

As some of you may recall, I attended, with a digital camera, Sir Richard Branson's fund-raising bash for the McCanns on the 1000th day after Madeleine was reported missing (27 January 2010). Well, only at the entrance.

Among the photographers was a certain Ian West.

Among the guests sweeping up to the venue were smartly-dressed Sir David Steel and his wife.

David Steel >> Cyril Smith >> Clement Freud >> McCanns >> Richard Branson >> Jeffrey Epstein >> Ernie Allen >> Podestas

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Post by Liz Eagles on 14.03.20 9:49

@Tony Bennett wrote:As some of you may recall, I attended, with a digital camera, Sir Richard Branson's fund-raising bash for the McCanns on the 1000th day after Madeleine was reported missing (27 January 2010). Well, only at the entrance.

Among the photographers was a certain Ian West.

Among the guests sweeping up to the venue were smartly-dressed Sir David Steel and his wife.

David Steel >> Cyril Smith >> Clement Freud >> McCanns >> Richard Branson >> Jeffrey Epstein >> Ernie Allen >> Podestas
Tony, never forget that bastard who stood in court, the one who entrapped you and said 'I lied my Lord'.

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Post by Jill Havern on 14.03.20 10:32

How did he get away with it?

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Post by PeterMac on 14.03.20 10:50

Because in English law unlawfully obtained evidence is still admissible.

In its judgment, the Court of Appeal expressed its dislike for parties taking the law into their own hands and illegally helping themselves to information or documents. However, the court also reiterated that evidence improperly obtained can still be used in court, acknowledging the fact that common law does not usually concern itself with how evidence is obtained when considering admissibility. 


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Post by Hobs on 17.03.20 23:16

@Jill Havern wrote:How the teachings of Islam could help us prevent more sexual abuse scandals

Harvey Weinstein is just another case of a powerful man abusing women because we live in a society that lets him get away with it, but we can change that

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/harvey-weinstein-islam-sexual-assault-rape-womens-rights-a8001521.html#commentsDiv

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha

Clearly selective reading of the koran.
If you are an infidel or a muslim of another sect you are fair game.

Quran (4:11) - (Inheritance) "The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females"


Quran (2:282) - (Court testimony) "And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women."


Quran (2:228) - "and the men are a degree above them [women]"

Quran (5:6) - "And if ye are unclean, purify yourselves. And if ye are sick or on a journey, or one of you cometh from the closet, or ye have had contact with women, and ye find not water, then go to clean, high ground and rub your faces and your hands with some of it"

Quran (4:24) and Quran (33:50) - A man is permitted to take women as sex slaves outside of marriage.

Quran (4:34) - "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."


Quran (38:44) - "And take in your hand a green branch and beat her with it, and do not break your oath..."

Abu Dawud (2141) - "Iyas bin ‘Abd Allah bin Abi Dhubab reported the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) as saying: Do not beat Allah’s handmaidens, but when ‘Umar came to the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) and said: Women have become emboldened towards their husbands, he (the Prophet) gave permission to beat them."

Reliance of the Traveller (Islamic Law) M10.11 - Dealing with a Rebellious Wife - When a husband notices signs of rebelliousness in his wife (whether in words, as when she answers him coldly when she used to do so politely, or he asks her to come to bed and she refuses, contrary to her usual habit; or whether in acts, as when he finds her averse to him when she was previously kind and cheerful), he warns her in words ("Your obeying me is religiously obligatory''). If she commits rebelliousness, he keeps from sleeping (having sex) with her without words, and may hit her, but not in a way that injures her... it is permissible for him to hit her he believes that hitting her will bring her back to the right path


That is women not children, who are treated as fair game by muslim males.

And this is why he is deceptive about equality.

Quran (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.

Quran (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves" against danger, meaning that there are times when a Muslim may appear friendly to non-Muslims, even though they should not feel friendly.

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Post by BlueBag on 18.03.20 9:00

Is The Independent seriously holding up Islam as a solution to our ills?

Every day things just get crazier.
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