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Post by Jill Havern on 03.10.17 17:52

Gerry’s records I: Goncalo Amaral proven right?

October 3, 2017 Ben Salmon


I’m undecided on whether to make this a series, or just a one off blog. As many will be aware I have itemised the entirety of Gerald McCann’s Portuguese call records, as provided by Vodafone in December 2007, to the best extent of my abilities/resources. In the process of doing so I have come across many names, some known, some unknown and some whose relevance I have yet to quantify.
 
The following calls I will present are very much names we know; and perhaps more importantly, are calls which the PJ did not know about at the time.
 
It’s well documented that Goncalo Amaral was removed from the case, elbowed out because his work didn’t suit certain people/agendas. Whilst re-reading through a translation of his book ‘The Truth of the Lie’, Chapter 18 piqued my interest, particularly the references to two English officers – Jose Freitas of Scotland Yard, and Stuart Prior of Leicestershire Constabulary.  Their first mention here is of them being the trusted chain of communication, whilst results from forensics were pending;
 
‘Analyses of the residues collected following the visit by the dogs is entrusted to the English Forensic Science Service laboratory. To avoid any leaks of information, Stuart Prior, a senior officer with Leicestershire police, is responsible for liaison between the laboratory and José Freitas of Scotland Yard. The latter, who is with us, in Portimão, is passing on any relevant reports.’
(Goncalo Amaral, ‘Maddie, la verdad de la mentira’)
 
A position of trust indeed – not that it stopped supposed leaks that led to such incidents as Martin Brunt declaring a 100% DNA match. Note that these forensics all took place in August, and the CSI dogs went in at the beginning of August, on the recommendation of Mark Harrison (who arrived in Luz July 20th). To that end, we can safely assert that at this point in time (August 2007), both Freitas and Prior were trusted by the PJ.
 
As the chapter goes on, it becomes clear that Goncalo Amaral found Stuart Prior’s behaviour questionable, to the extent that he questioned his purpose in being there:
‘There is no doubt that somebody opened that window on the evening of May 3rd and the only fingerprints found on it were those of Kate Healy. The manager of the Ocean Club’s crèche, who went to the apartment after the alarm was raised, remarked that, “the window was partially open to the left,” confirming Kate’s earlier statement.
We prefer not to discuss this with Stuart Prior: we have the impression that he is only here to accompany the McCanns’ interrogations and to prevent their detention. His concern on that subject is obvious.’
(ibid.)
 
Worsening as the arguida/o interrogations approached (early September):
Stuart expresses his disappointment over the test results. This is where the saga of the FSS reports begins.
(ibid.)
‘As the date for the interrogations approached, Stuart became more and more nervous and he was a constant presence. He wanted to be kept up to date on the smallest details.’
(ibid.)
 
It would later be reported in Correio de Manha that Stuart Prior ‘intimidated’ the PJ. The original article is glitched but Joana Morais’ blog has preserved the jist of the article:
‘The informal phone calls of this senior officer – who was accused at the time of protecting Kate and Gerry McCann – are interpreted by Judiciary Police sources as “an attempt of intimidation to stop future endeavours.”
The CM established that Stuart Prior, the head of the Leicestershire Police Constabulary (area where the McCanns live), called the PJ, giving an account of the couple’s ‘nuisance‘ regarding the suspicions over David Payne raised by Gonçalo Amaral. The former coordinator of the PJ in Portimão questioned the lack of explanations regarding ‘the bath given to the children on the day Maddie disappeared’.
Amaral, who was removed from coordinating the case precisely because he accused the English police of taking sides with Gerry and Kate, believes that ‘promiscuity continues between the couple and the British authorities’. According to the former police inspector ‘only very influential people can send send messages through the police’.’
So we have it clearly stated here that Prior had some kind of vested interest in making sure the parents and the Tapas members were not impugned in any way, and we see clear references to this both in 2007 and 2009, the latter being more than a year after the McCanns and anyone else in the group had left the country. No longer is it just a case of ‘minding the backs of the parents while in Portugal’.
 
Putting together a very brief timeline:

  • July 20th Mark Harrison arrives
  • Early August CSI dogs go in, samples are taken. Jose Freitas and Stuart Prior are trusted with handling the information.
  • Late August Goncalo Amaral is critical and distrusting of Stuart Prior/his intentions.
  • Early September Prior goes to Portimao to delegate FSS lab findings.
  • September 4th Stuart Prior emails across the forensic results from the FSS, referred to as the ‘second preliminary report’, which throw doubt on any of the tested items originating from Madeleine (many articles have been written about this, so I wont expand). Goncalo Amaral has Prior call the lab asking ‘if they think they are stupid’, and Prior is heard saying “With a lot less than that, we would have already arrested someone in England.”

 
At this point you may wonder what relevance any of this has to Gerald’s call records. This is summed up in the following image:

June 21st Gerald initiates contact with Jose Freitas of NSY. That means that he, for whatever purpose, and by whatever means, already had his number. There are only ever two direct contacts between Gerald’s handset and Freitas’ number. The second is only 3 days later. The duration of both calls is incredibly short – 26 seconds, then 8 seconds. What can be achieved in such short calls?
There are five calls involving Stuart Prior. In each case the call was initiated by Stuart. They vary in length from 25 seconds (July 4th) to 7 mins 24 seconds (July 16th).
The final call, lasting exactly 6 minutes, occurs on July 19th – just a day before Mark Harrison arrived in Praia da Luz, on the recommendation of British police.
Coincidence?
Perhaps the most significant thing to note is that the PJ would have been completely unaware of these calls, given that they didn’t get Gerald’s call records until December 14th, 2007.
So we have to ask a common sense question at this point: Given their pre-existing concerns, if the PJ had been aware that both officers entrusted with FSS laboratory liaison were already in direct contact with the soon to be arguidos, would they have requested different, verifiably objective intermediaries?
And another question raises its spectre over the issue: were the FSS results potentially tampered with?
These weren’t the only contacts Gerald had with officers – as another example, he twice directly called  Chief Constable Meredydd Hughes, Martin Grime’s then boss (as well as ACPO member), 2 weeks after the dog searches. Whatever the content of those two calls, we have to wonder how Gerald was able to so directly contact the South Yorkshire Police boss.
Could it have been through the then ACPO Chief Ken Jones, who Gerry always dialled directly, and who was last contacted (after a 3 month break) the day after Prior’s second preliminary report email went to the PJ?

Or perhaps Leicester family liaison officer Steve Markley who, despite his role, only called Gerald once (May 6th)?

 
Was Goncalo Amaral right about Prior? Questions must be asked.

https://h42a.wordpress.com/2017/10/03/gerrys-records-i-goncalo-amaral-proven-right/
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Post by Keitei on 03.10.17 18:53

Excellent piece of research & observations Ben S.   clapping

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Post by Jill Havern on 03.10.17 19:13

PeterMac has sent it to Operation Grange. okay
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Post by Philo Beddoe on 03.10.17 19:16

I'd make sure it gets to the PJ as well, they might be interested to see what that sharp pain was they were experiencing in their backs!
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Post by Phoebe on 03.10.17 19:33

Very interesting Ben.  :baffled: The McCanns certainly enjoyed unprecedented access to the British police. I can think of no other instance when the family of a "missing, believed abducted" person was indulged in this manner. Usually families, indeed even victims of unsolved crime are encouraged to contact only the appointed family liaison officer and any further interference or requests for information updates are generally met with "back off and let us do our job". I do believe the only reason the British police muscled in to "help" the Portuguese was to protect the guilty and to muddy the waters at the behest of government.

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Post by Keitei on 03.10.17 21:03

Get'emGonçalo wrote:PeterMac has sent it to Operation Grange. okay

That's good news, a great piece of research that needs to be looked into.

@Philo Beddoe Totally agree, the PJ must know these things.


@Phoebe - Totally agree with you too.  In all honesty there were times when I wondered exactly who was running this investigation, Gerry or the PJ!

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Post by NickE on 03.10.17 21:31

Is this just another coincidence that Gerry made a phone call to Prior on 3/7 and two phone calls on 4/7 and he also made one phone call to Freuds holiday villa Casa da Colina on 3/7 and two phone calls on 4/7?




Casa da Colina land line:


The first 3 calls are 3 July 2007 at 21:19, lasting 3:31
4 July 2007 at 10:01 lasting 1:07
4 July 2007 at 12:46 lasting 1min 55secs. 

*The first three phone calls Gerry made to Prior are on 3rd and 4th July.
*The first three phone calls Gerry made to Casa da Colina are on 3rd and 4th July.

Who had access to that villa during this time?

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Post by sar on 03.10.17 22:13

+1 NickE, pretty astonishing

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Post by worriedmum on 03.10.17 23:23


On 24-06-07, the call lasts 8 seconds and they do not share the same first language.. what on earth could they have said in 8 seconds?
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Post by Keitei on 03.10.17 23:59

Jose de Freitas was based at Scotland Yard, so I would think he must speak English.

I would presume a call lasting 8 seconds may be an indication that Gerry perhaps heard a voice message.

There is a thread on Mr. Freitas here with further information:
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t194-jose-de-freitas-senior-officer-at-new-scotland-yard

A Guest on that thread stated: He collected Madeleine's DNA sample from the McCanns house

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Post by Jill Havern on 04.10.17 10:06

@NickE wrote:Is this just another coincidence that Gerry made a phone call to Prior on 3/7 and two phone calls on 4/7 and he also made one phone call to Freuds holiday villa Casa da Colina on 3/7 and two phone calls on 4/7?




Casa da Colina land line:


The first 3 calls are 3 July 2007 at 21:19, lasting 3:31
4 July 2007 at 10:01 lasting 1:07
4 July 2007 at 12:46 lasting 1min 55secs. 

*The first three phone calls Gerry made to Prior are on 3rd and 4th July.
*The first three phone calls Gerry made to Casa da Colina are on 3rd and 4th July.

Who had access to that villa during this time?

Ben made this for you Nick:

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Post by NickE on 04.10.17 10:15

Get'emGonçalo wrote:
@NickE wrote:Is this just another coincidence that Gerry made a phone call to Prior on 3/7 and two phone calls on 4/7 and he also made one phone call to Freuds holiday villa Casa da Colina on 3/7 and two phone calls on 4/7?




Casa da Colina land line:


The first 3 calls are 3 July 2007 at 21:19, lasting 3:31
4 July 2007 at 10:01 lasting 1:07
4 July 2007 at 12:46 lasting 1min 55secs. 

*The first three phone calls Gerry made to Prior are on 3rd and 4th July.
*The first three phone calls Gerry made to Casa da Colina are on 3rd and 4th July.

Who had access to that villa during this time?

Ben made this for you Nick:

Thank you GeG & Ben. thumbup

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Post by Doug D on 04.10.17 12:45

'Hugh'.

Not convinced this is correct. Hughes was Chief Constable of South Yorks police from 2004 - 2011. No mention of 'former intelligence officer, now a kidnap negotiator and counsellor’ in his Wiki biog.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meredydd_Hughes

Also why (& how) would Control Risks Group bring in a serving Chief Constable? 

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Post by Jill Havern on 04.10.17 12:50

@Doug D wrote:'Hugh'.

Not convinced this is correct. Hughes was Chief Constable of South Yorks police from 2004 - 2011. No mention of 'former intelligence officer, now a kidnap negotiator and counsellor’ in his Wiki biog.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meredydd_Hughes

Also why (& how) would Control Risks Group bring in a serving Chief Constable? 
That's why I deleted it - his name is Hugh Lohan http://esjg.co.uk/who-we-are/

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Post by willowthewisp on 04.10.17 14:18

@worriedmum wrote:
On 24-06-07, the call lasts 8 seconds and they do not share the same first language.. what on earth could they have said in 8 seconds?
Talk to Stuart.
Wrong number Gerry.
Is that Chris Tarrant?
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Post by willowthewisp on 04.10.17 14:32

Get'emGonçalo wrote:
@Doug D wrote:'Hugh'.

Not convinced this is correct. Hughes was Chief Constable of South Yorks police from 2004 - 2011. No mention of 'former intelligence officer, now a kidnap negotiator and counsellor’ in his Wiki biog.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meredydd_Hughes

Also why (& how) would Control Risks Group bring in a serving Chief Constable? 
That's why I deleted it - his name is Hugh Lohan http://esjg.co.uk/who-we-are/

Ah Hugh Lohan,Thirty years experience working in the armed Forces,then joins an elite group called suitably"Control Risk Group"who were employed to advice the family on Madeleine's disappearance,Bell-Pottinger?
All of the pieces of "collusion"are finally being exposed of"Who the UK Police"were and still protecting in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann,there once was a now famous couple,one from Scotland and the other from England who were thought to be the most Evil people,but in this case,there appears to be a vast swathe of collaborators?
Will you get your wings,Clarence,"It's a Wonderful Life"?
Ah Meredydd Hughes,Rotherham Sex scandal,Grooming Gangs,failure of duties,Meredydd Hughes,Chief Constable of Yorkshire Police,during period 1997-2013 when most of the 1400 Offences had happened?
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Post by Phoebe on 04.10.17 17:27

Gerry's calls to Meredyyd Hughes (Martin Grime's Boss) after Eddie and Keela's alerts are decidedly suspicious. The same Meredyyd Hughes had appeared in an article praising Keela's abilities, lauding her as a wonder-dog, and stating what a terrific asset she was to the force! He was remarkably silent when Gerry contradicted him by claiming "research" showed such dogs were "remarkably unreliable". What was Gerry doing calling him two weeks after the dogs had examined 5A? How did he know how to contact him and why would he think that Hughes would speak to someone under suspicion? Didn't this same Meredyyd Hughes once try to run for the Labour Party, is that a connection?

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Post by Verdi on 04.10.17 21:10

In the past, on more than one occasion, I've asked April28th where all this information about phone records comes from - so far I've never had a reply.  Surely not a difficult question to answer?  If for some reason the 'source' has to remain anonymous (rather like Colin Sutton's 'source'), then perhaps it would be better if the detail stays out of the public domain - at least until it can be legitimately verified.

April28th has come up with a number of extraordinary claims/theories in the past, never sourced or verified by result - be it negative or positive.

Until such times as April28th can produced some authentic explanation, I remain very sceptical.  The CMoMM member also declines to post on the forum nowadays except by proxy, although regularly online.  Doesn't that tell you something?

Speaking personally, I feel if a member makes a claim of any description, they owe it to the forum's integrity to reveal the information source, or at least justify the authenticity of the source.  I don't like to think the reputation of CMoMM is being jeopardized by publishing false information - if that's what this is.

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Post by NickE on 04.10.17 22:46

Are not the PJ files a reliable source?
And to find the owners of the telephone numbers are not difficult if you give it time and do a detective work.

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Post by willowthewisp on 05.10.17 12:48

Get'emGonçalo wrote:
@NickE wrote:Is this just another coincidence that Gerry made a phone call to Prior on 3/7 and two phone calls on 4/7 and he also made one phone call to Freuds holiday villa Casa da Colina on 3/7 and two phone calls on 4/7?




Casa da Colina land line:


The first 3 calls are 3 July 2007 at 21:19, lasting 3:31
4 July 2007 at 10:01 lasting 1:07
4 July 2007 at 12:46 lasting 1min 55secs. 

*The first three phone calls Gerry made to Prior are on 3rd and 4th July.
*The first three phone calls Gerry made to Casa da Colina are on 3rd and 4th July.

Who had access to that villa during this time?

Ben made this for you Nick:

Is Philip Wright on above phone records,possibly be Michael Wright,he of the paddling expedition,if not it must be another person and stand to be corrected if wrong?
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Post by Doug D on 05.10.17 13:06

Phillip Wright was, I believe, the owner of Casa da Colina, the property Freud was staying in.

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Post by willowthewisp on 05.10.17 13:08

Hi DougD,thanks for the post that clears my question of who was at the villa.
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Post by Doug D on 05.10.17 13:19

Not sure that it does. I think the phone line at the villa was registered to PW as property owner, so these calls are probably the ones made to CF.

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Post by Guest on 05.10.17 14:36

@Verdi

Having read your response, and after chatting with Jill, I am happy to accept your apology and move on. If you have any remaining concerns about my research, please feel free to put them forward, either publicly or in private.

In turn I also apologise for the acerbic/sarcastic nature of my post upthread.

I did notice that when my blogs are shared here, they lose the links which I add in the text of my blog. It is possible you were just reading the posts here and weren't aware that I was sourcing things - which, ironically, I started doing last year as a direct consequence of you feeling I wasn't giving sources!

We should all be on the same side here, so I hope this can all be turned to a positive situation and ends with us all on the same page, seeking justice in our own ways, however varied they may be.
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Post by Jill Havern on 05.10.17 14:53

Sorry Ben, I didn't realise the links were lost...not sure why that should be though.

The reason I always post the full article, where possible, is because blogs have a habit of closing - Joana Morais sometimes closes her blog sad
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