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Post by JRP on 02.10.17 16:38

Willow,
I guess when you have risen to the dizzy heights, when somebody hands you a shi**y stick, you either accept it, or they find someone who will.
So, once you are in possession of said stick, your job becomes one of making it look clean.
It's probably a very difficult task, but once you get good at it, you get more sticks.
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Post by willowthewisp on 02.10.17 17:00

@JRP wrote:Willow,
I guess when you have risen to the dizzy heights, when somebody hands you a shi**y stick, you either accept it, or they find someone who will.
So, once you are in possession of said stick, your job becomes one of making it look clean.
It's probably a very difficult task, but once you get good at it, you get more sticks.
But there is an old saying,Don't give sh*te,don't accept sh*t? or don't piss down my  back and tell me its raining?
Perhaps he should grow a pair,then??

So what your saying is, your put in an impossible position,but to deal with this shit in an order to keep on taking said shit,then when you profess to an attainable level,you get more sticks,but maybe not as s**ty,No wonder this worlds **cked up?
Is that Justice UK style,when a little girl is reported missing by her parents and grown adults behave in the way they have in this case?
Dizzy heights or Not,their are degrees of acceptance,Brotherhood or No Brotherhood,they should all be locked away if found guilty of hiding behind secrecy or pacts of silence?
millions of People lost their lives so their off spring had a better future,not a worse position in life?
I don't think so,I know So
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Post by JRP on 02.10.17 19:04

Willow,
I would argue that certain police officers, coroners, lawyers, are put in place as they are known to be compliant to a certain cause. Whether it be a little girl reported missing, or a man shot dead on a tube train, the chain of command swings into action to shape public opinion.
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Post by sharonl on 02.10.17 19:51

The McCanns claim that they have searching for Madeleine, that she is findable.  Why then, is there a need for Operation Grange to interview them after 6 years?  

You would think that the McCanns would have made regular visits to Scotland yard giving the investigation as much information as they possibly could. 

Are they now being interviewed so that the cover up team can claim that information was lost in translation?  Is this an attempt to clear up all those contradictions in the McCanns statements before they whitewash the case?

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Post by worriedmum on 02.10.17 20:13

I thought the McCanns paid a hefty lump of fund money to get the police files translated into English. In which case , why wouldn't they have brought any inaccuracies to the attention of Tracey Kandohla the powers that be...
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Post by Verdi on 02.10.17 21:17

Get'emGonçalo wrote:Despite saying he was "no snowflake".
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Post by Jill Havern on 02.10.17 21:43

I wonder what this new 'Quiz' will be called?

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Post by JRP on 02.10.17 22:10

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Post by MRNOODLES on 02.10.17 23:27

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Post by MayMuse on 02.10.17 23:40

Can't touch this

Scrap heap challenge 

Total wipeout 

Fake reaction 

Have I got news for you

Twenty questions 

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I've got a secret

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The £64000 question

Dirty money

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Playing for time 

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Post by Jill Havern on 03.10.17 7:59

Give us a clue

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Post by Jill Havern on 03.10.17 8:04

Getting back on track, this is from Sharon and PeterMac interview

Sharon:
I thought that this may have something to do with the fact that we, on social networking sites, have questioned the fact that the McCanns have not been interviewed by Operation Grange.

They are now saying that there may be errors in the translation of the witness statements.  Is this an attempt to clear up all those contradictions and pass them off as translation errors?

One thing that stands out is the fact that the McCanns have not been working with the investigators.  If the child was genuinely missing, you would expect the parents & their friends to be at the police station answering all questions and providing all the information they possible could.   If the Met Police have not invited the McCanns to be interviewed, why are they not banging on the doors asking to be heard?


Peter:

My personal thoughts are these . . .
Someone, somewhere is stirring this up.
I don't know who, and it doesn't matter who.
The stories about "errors in the translations" are clearly nonsense.   They all signed the ENGLISH translations as accurate.
and then 6 days later went back and signed another set - of totally different statements - as accurate.  IN English translation.
Point of entry, shutters, and so on 
And in G and K's statements they both say
"CONTRARY TO what was stated the first time . . . . "    In other words, it was not a bad translation, nor a misunderstanding.
WE SAID  X . and now we want to change it to Y
( and then years later Kate changes it to Z  with her CLOSED curtains and whooshing in a non- existent gale force gust . .)

But absolutely right, the McCanns and the Tapas 9 /7 are NOT working with any one.- And the Mitchell- creature has no access to anyone.

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Post by JRP on 03.10.17 8:49

The opening line says

By Jerry Lawton / Published 2nd October 2017

A senior officer believes their original witness statements given to Portuguese detectives were lost in translation. 

Then later, Lawton attributes quotes to Colin Sutton. 
Is Colin Sutton the source of the story? Or is there really a senior serving officer who believes the McCann witness statements have been lost in translation?

Big difference.
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Post by Jill Havern on 03.10.17 9:29

From PeterMac:

I am sure it is Sutton’s quote being trotted out again
But the question is WHY and WHO is doing it
Grange’s apparent Neglect of Duty and apparent Misconduct in Public Office is being exposed to the world.
As is the logical conclusion that this was Never a proper enquiry

It is being spelled out in the Tabloids, using simple words in short sentences, so that everyone shall understand . . .

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Post by Rogue-a-Tory on 03.10.17 9:39

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Post by sar on 03.10.17 10:14

Get'emGonçalo wrote:From PeterMac:

I am sure it is Sutton’s quote being trotted out again
But the question is WHY and WHO is doing it
Grange’s apparent Neglect of Duty and apparent Misconduct in Public Office is being exposed to the world.
As is the logical conclusion that this was Never a proper enquiry

It is being spelled out in the Tabloids, using simple words in short sentences, so that everyone shall understand . . .
+1 PeterMac, via the medium of Get'emGonçalo


....words a 9 year old could understand, very important point bearing the in mind the reading comprehension age of The Scum  et al.  Why make something so very clear?
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Post by tara on 03.10.17 11:02

@sharonl wrote:The McCanns claim that they have searching for Madeleine, that she is findable.  Why then, is there a need for Operation Grange to interview them after 6 years?  

You would think that the McCanns would have made regular visits to Scotland yard giving the investigation as much information as they possibly could. 

Are they now being interviewed so that the cover up team can claim that information was lost in translation?  Is this an attempt to clear up all those contradictions in the McCanns statements before they whitewash the case?
I absolutely believe that the only reason for re-interviewing the McCanns would be to exonerate them in the eyes of the doubting public and, yes, the 'lost in translation' approach would be a gift for them. S Y are clearly struggling to find a Patsy so this has to be the better alternative for the closure of their 'tying up loose ends'! Although....who knows where this latest 'lead' will take us? hysterical . I do find the SY fairy stories fascinating; not intellectually challenging, but good for a laugh. None of this case was ever about Madeleine. Where in God's name do we go from here?...... waiting
All in my opinion, of course.
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Post by Jill Havern on 03.10.17 11:11

Misconduct in Public Office complaint...as PeterMac says it is being exposed to the world.

It should be a piece of cake.

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Post by MRNOODLES on 03.10.17 11:17

One gets the feeling that Murat will be dragged back into the spotlight.
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Post by sar on 03.10.17 11:24

maybe someone will ask what he mean't when he said ...Part of the biggest c**kup in history?
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Post by polyenne on 03.10.17 11:35

There are so many people who should reasonably be re-interviewed (or even interviewed for the first time).

I'd be very interested to know what any number of people might choose to say after so many years......allegiances change and, with the ever-growing sea-change of public opinion, some might not now be so willing to "stick to the story"
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Post by Verdi on 03.10.17 12:17

Get'emGonçalo wrote:Misconduct in Public Office complaint...as PeterMac says it is being exposed to the world.

It should be a piece of cake.
Public Office have got away with far more serious crimes than this and they're still standing.  There will be a get out clause.

I know the Metropolitan Police are keeping their enquiry/investigation under wraps but it would be interesting to know what they think of all these bizarre media reports.  Perhaps AC Mark 'foot in mouth' Rowley might consider giving an update in the light of the further funding of Operation Grange.

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At the end of the day all blame will be apportioned to the Portuguese - they are the leading force so it will be their fault.  Even Kirkwood over yonder is blaming the PJ for losing valuable time and not sealing-off the crime scene.

It's the same old song..

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Post by polyenne on 03.10.17 12:22

In the same way that "one rotten apple spoils the barrel", I'm forever hopeful that one embedded (but subsequently enlightened) worm will split the can wide open.

I don't believe it would take much......except a very brave person
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Post by Phoebe on 03.10.17 12:41

At her rogatory interview Cat Baker stated she wished to amend something in an earlier statement - the fact that she had claimed Madeleine played more with the boys. She had, presumably, signed off on the first statement but had no qualms contradicting it when given the opportunity. I believe it will be the same for the Mccanns. Their only statements are those given to the P.J.. Op. Grange cannot run forever, and there is a growing backlash against each new tranche of funding. In the absence of a suitable patsy, putting Grange into a cold case file still leaves the McCanns under the suspicion of many of the public, particularly since the Supreme Court ruling. IMO, before Grange is parked a concerted attempt will be made to exonerate the parents. They will explain how, under tremendous stress at the time and feeling they were being set up by the "incompetent" P.J. during what they perceived as "hostile  interviewing", they gave muddled, confused responses that have been misinterpreted, whether literally in translation or in their import. Grange will not close without attempting to clear Kate and Gerry. To point the finger at them now would be too embarrassing for all who threw their weight behind their innocence for so long. I don't believe any of the tapas friends will "crack" now. The reputational damage to them would be catastrophic.
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Post by polyenne on 03.10.17 12:56

IMO, before Grange is parked a concerted attempt will be made to exonerate the parents. They will explain how, under tremendous stress at the time and feeling they were being set up by the "incompetent" P.J. during what they perceived as "hostile  interviewing", they gave muddled, confused responses that have been misinterpreted, whether literally in translation or in their import.

Crikey Phoebe, I hope you have that copyrighted !!
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