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Iraq war: judge to review Tony Blair prosecution ban

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Iraq war: judge to review Tony Blair prosecution ban

Post by hogwash on 05.07.17 9:07

Private criminal prosecution against former PM was blocked last year by courts giving Blair immunity against criminal charges

The most senior judge in England and Wales will hear a case attempting to overturn a ban on prosecuting Tony Blair over the Iraq war, the Guardian has learned.

A private criminal prosecution against the former Labour prime minister was blocked in 2016 by Westminster magistrates court when it was ruled Blair would have immunity from any criminal charges.

But that ruling by the district judge, Michael Snow, will be reviewed on Wednesday before the lord chief justice, Lord Thomas of Cwmgiedd, and Mr Justice Ouseley.

The current attorney general, Jeremy Wright QC, wants the block on proceedings upheld. He will have a barrister in court to try to stop the attempted private prosecution.

The hearing follows a decision by the high court in May, which has not previously been reported. Then a high court judge said those wanting to prosecute Blair could have a hearing to seek permission for a court order allowing their case to go to the next stage. The judge in that case also said the attorney general could formally join in the case.

Blair caused controversy when prime minister in deciding to take Britain into the invasion of Iraq in 2003, which was led by the US and sparked huge opposition.

The private prosecution seeks a war crimes trial in a British court of Blair, the foreign secretary in 2003, Jack Straw, and Lord Goldsmith, the attorney general at the time the government was deciding to join the invasion of Iraq.

The case seeks their prosecution for the crime of aggression. The attorney general in written submissions for Wednesday’s hearing says such an offence does not exist in English law, a claim which is disputed.

The private prosecution attempt is based on the findings of last year’s Chilcot report into the decision by Blair to join the invasion of Iraq, which is criticised, under the false pretext that Saddam Hussein’s regime had weapons of mass destruction.

After the Chilcot report was released some families of British service personnel who lost their lives in Iraq said they wanted Blair prosecuted in the courts.

This attempt at a private prosecution is brought by Gen Abdul-Wahid Shannan ar-Ribat, former chief of staff of the Iraqi army who is now living in exile. His lawyers are Michael Mansfield QC and Imran Khan, who acted for the family of Stephen Lawrence.

In November 2016, a British court ruled against an application to bring a private prosecution. A district judge at Westminster magistrates court ruled Blair had immunity from prosecution over the Iraq war and that any case could also “involve details being disclosed under the Official Secrets Act”.

At the hearing at the Royal Courts of Justice in central London, lawyers for the attorney general will argue that the crime of aggression, while existing in international law, has never been included into English law by parliament.

But the government’s stance appears to be undermined by Goldsmith. In his 2003 memo on the legality of the Iraq war, Goldsmith appeared to concede the key point of those now seeking his prosecution. “Aggression is a crime under customary international law which automatically forms part of domestic law,” he wrote.

At this stage Blair, Straw and Goldsmith are not making an arguments in court against the private prosecution, instead hoping the attorney general’s efforts will see it killed off.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/05/iraq-war-judge-to-review-tony-blair-prosecution-ban
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Post by sar on 05.07.17 10:09

nb hogwash 

"The hearing follows a decision by the high court in May, which has not previously been reported."


Good day to bury bad news etc etc!

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Re: Iraq war: judge to review Tony Blair prosecution ban

Post by BlueBag on 05.07.17 10:38

He needs to be in prison.
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Post by polyenne on 05.07.17 11:17

I'd rather wait for the Veterans Party to get into power with a mandate to bring back Capital Punishment.

IMO even that wouldn't be enough for that most odious of individuals
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Re: Iraq war: judge to review Tony Blair prosecution ban

Post by BlueBag on 06.07.17 5:40

He (Chilcot) said the evidence Mr Blair gave the inquiry was "emotionally truthful" but he relied on beliefs rather than facts.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40510540

Stop the nonsense.

Call a liar a liar.

"emotionally truthful".

Give me a break.
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Post by BlueBag on 06.07.17 5:55

Oh and while we're at it.. how about an investigation into Blair's involvement in Operation Ore.
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Post by sallypelt on 06.07.17 10:26

Tony Blair viewed his decision to go to war in Iraq and Kosovo as part of a "Christian battle", according to one of his closest political allies.  The former Prime Minister's faith is claimed to have influenced all his key policy decisions and to have given him an unshakeable conviction that he was right.

 

Blair has previously admitted that he was influenced by his Christian faith,.

 

 

However, we have a problem with warring goverments going to war believing that “God is on their side”. God can’t be on BOTH sides. This thinking that “God is on my side” is dangerous and arrogant.

 

Christians in Germany during WW1 and 2 believed that God was on their side as did the Christians on the allies side.

 

On a more personal note, do I believe that I can talk to a god and “he” hears me?  NO Do I believe that there are people who get great comfort from their faith. YES, but that’s personal to the believer.

Do I believe in the God of the bible?  NO

 

What I believe is, it is up to each individual to make this a good world. Sadly, the great unwashed are at a disadvantage when it comes to having the power to change this filthy world, but that doesn’t mean that people can’t be kind and do good. One doesn’t have to have a religion to do this. One can have Christian values - if that is what one wants to call them – without having to say “I believe”.

 

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Post by BlueBag on 06.07.17 13:22

"Thou shalt not bear false witness".

Yeah... his Christian faith.
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Iraq War,Chilcot

Post by willowthewisp on 06.07.17 15:00

@BlueBag wrote:"Thou shalt not bear false witness".

Yeah... his Christian faith.
Hi Bluebag,I do not want to begin an argument amongst the"Faith system"Christianity and Tony Blair?
Libya,Lockerbie connections are at present still revealing the"Smudged Finger Prints"in today's World,CIA,where Smugglers are receiving Funds to transport people from one Continent to another,after receiving Funds from the European Union to dissolve this Crisis?
What is being uncovered is the myriad trail leading back to Western Governments collusion to destabilise the Middle East region for Hundreds of years?
There is talk of a special monument to Mrs Thatcher in London for commemrorative purpose,Mrs Thatcher backed Ronald Reagen in Nicaragua,Pinochet who helped to Slaughter thousands of Innocent people,if in doubt watch the Film documentary from John Pilger from the TruthToday(TTS),oh what a blinkered World we live in Today(Fake News America),Mr Pilger should be saluted for his Unbiased reports from these conflict zones!!? 
In order to persist with this narrative,it would have been too costly to have an Army stationed in the Middle East,Ergo the Saudis were used to influence the regions and deals were done between the different Continents?
Tony Blair,David Cameron are clones(Arab League uprising)oil deals eh Tony,Brazil, undertaking the"New World Order"Bilderberg Clan,much the same as President Donald Trump and now just recently, Mr Tusk has announced of a European Union Trade deal with Japan,No doubt putting Two fingers up to Theresa May at the same time?
People are just Pawns in a very large game of Chess,to be sacrificed in order to win at all costs,but not the Major players,they are too important?

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Re: Iraq war: judge to review Tony Blair prosecution ban

Post by sar on 06.07.17 15:39

@BlueBag wrote:Oh and while we're at it.. how about an investigation into Blair's involvement in Operation Ore.
+1 BB

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Re: Iraq war: judge to review Tony Blair prosecution ban

Post by sharonl on 06.07.17 19:08

Why was he given immunity? He would only need this if he was guilty, if he was innocent he would go to trial and prove it.

Blair is a connected to the PACT & Missing people charities. It was Blair who appointed Mitchell as McCann spokesman. Now, why did he do that?

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Post by puzzled on 06.07.17 22:15

@BlueBag wrote:
Call a liar a liar.


Or call a psychopath a psychopath -someone who can't actually tell the difference between truth and falsity.

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