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'Major Incident' as van hits mosque worshippers

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Re: 'Major Incident' as van hits mosque worshippers

Post by BlueBag on 22.06.17 13:42

@MrsC wrote:BREAKING NEWS: Finsbury Park victim, 51, is pictured for the first time as it emerges the 'peace-loving and gentle' grandfather died from multiple injuries

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4628674/Finsbury-Park-victim-51-died-multiple-injuries.html#ixzz4kjSALzJY
But... but.... but....

The BBC originally reported he was on the ground and people were trying to resuscitate him.

What happened to the woman with the broken back?

Where are the 9 other seriously injured people?
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Post by polyenne on 22.06.17 13:43

KI
No.

They weren't outside the mosque they were some short distance away.

He didn't drive into them "at speed", more as he turned into the cul de sac where a number were treating the man on the ground.

There was just Darren Osborne. Unarmed except for his "weapon" of a van.

Any more ?

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Post by polyenne on 22.06.17 13:44

I'm just being selective about what I've read and believe to be true.

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Post by BlueBag on 22.06.17 15:26

@polyenne wrote:I'm just being selective about what I've read and believe to be true.
So long as we understand that.
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Re: 'Major Incident' as van hits mosque worshippers

Post by Naz_Nomad on 23.06.17 18:07

@Truth4Maddie wrote:
I don't understand either how the police could class this as a terrorist attack within 8 minutes?

All IMO

Because there is a desperate need for there to be a "terror attack" on Muslims in Britain.  So much so, that a simple drivers error, which resulted in a wrong turn into as cul de sac, and some people injured, has escalated into a "terrorist incident".  The official narrative is now set in stone.  Contradict it at your peril.  Alternative explanations will be shouted down with cries of "Nazi", "Fascist", "Islamophobe", "Racist", "Bigot".

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Post by Naz_Nomad on 23.06.17 18:15

@BlueBag wrote:

Where there 3 men with knives and two ran away?
The "Three Men With Knives Who Ran Away" are either a figment of the imagination, conjured up by witnesses or simply made up by the media to add some weight to the "terrorist incident" narrative.

OR

They are three men who had knives out, and were going to stab the driver, but were warned by members of the crowd to run off, as the police were coming.  

This "incident" is total BS.

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Post by BlueBag on 23.06.17 18:19

@Naz_Nomad wrote:

Because there is a desperate need for there to be a "terror attack" on Muslims in Britain.  
Correct.

Politics in motion.
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Post by Libra on 23.06.17 19:22

BBC news at 6pm still saying it happened 'outside a mosque'.

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Post by BlueBag on 24.06.17 6:01

@Libra wrote:BBC news at 6pm still saying it happened 'outside a mosque'.
Yes they are.

They are not interested in the truth - they have an agenda and Darren Osborne is going to get the full treatment.

They have been putting "positive" Muslim stories on their news page all week.

The homeless man who gave a Muslim his shoes so he (the Muslim) could go into a restaurant was laughable.
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Post by Doug D on 01.08.17 9:41

Just had a look to see what’s going on with this one & it crept through court on 20th July. Next up, a plea hearing in week of Nov. 13 followed by Old Bailey 22nd Jan. next year.
 
Suspected Finsbury Park terror attacker accused of killing Muslim grandfather and injuring nine other men by driving van into worshippers will stand trial in January
 
·       Darren Osborne allegedly mowed down Akram Ali and nine others near mosque 
·       Mr Ali, 51, died following the attack and Osborne has been charged with murder
·       Osborne, 47, from Cardiff, is set to stand trial at the Old Bailey in January 2018
By Amie Gordon For Mailonline
PUBLISHED: 22:56, 20 July 2017 | UPDATED: 23:50, 20 July 2017

A man accused of carrying out the Finsbury Park terror attack will face trial in the New Year.
Darren Osborne allegedly mowed down Akram Ali, 51, and nine other people on a crowded pavement in north London.
Grandfather Mr Ali died after being crushed under the wheels of a rented Citroen van during the rampage near the Finsbury Park Mosque on June 19.
The area was busy with Muslim worshippers attending Ramadan night prayers at the time.
Osborne, 47, from Cardiff, is charged with the murder of Mr Ali and attempted murder. 
The charges state Osborne murdered Mr Ali on June 19 and attempted to murder 'persons at the junction of Seven Sisters Road and Whadcoat Street, London' on the same date.
The defendant appeared at the Old Bailey via video link from Belmarsh prison wearing a dark grey T-shirt and light beige trousers.

He spoke only to confirm his identity to the court before a timetable for his case was set out.
Mr Justice Holroyde set a trial for January 22 next year.
The trial is expected to go on for two weeks and will be heard at the Old Bailey.

It is expected to be prosecuted by senior barrister Jonathan Rees QC and presided over by Judge Richard Marks QC.
A plea hearing will take place on a date to be fixed in the week beginning November 13 before Judge Marks.
Osborne, who sat with his face covered by his hand, was remanded in custody. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4716124/Suspected-terrorist-Darren-Osborne-appears-court.html

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Post by polyenne on 01.08.17 18:45

HE'S NOT A FLAMIN' TERRORIST !!!!!!

In the words of Python, he's a very naughty boy.

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Post by BlueBag on 01.08.17 19:14

I still don't get how a slow left hand turn into a cul-de-sac half a mile from the Mosque that wasn't highly visible where unfortunately a man was dying around the corner being resuscitated on the ground is an act of terrorism like blowing up kids at a pop-concert is terrorism.
 
Whatever happened to the nine people taken to hospital with serious injuries? No names.... of course.

Actually... I'd like to know what really happened and not the Islam "victim story" we have been told.
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Post by polyenne on 01.08.17 19:33

All quietly dealt with, to appease the Muslim community. He'll have the book thrown at him and do the time.

But a terrorist he ain't.

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Re: 'Major Incident' as van hits mosque worshippers

Post by BlueBag on 01.08.17 21:06

Islam...  Lose-Lose.

Islam is evil.

Islam is being used by evil people.

I see it.

I feel helpless.
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Finsbury Park Non Terrorist incdent

Post by willowthewisp on 03.08.17 16:33

@BlueBag wrote:Islam...  Lose-Lose.

Islam is evil.

Islam is being used by evil people.

I see it.

I feel helpless.
Hi Bluebag,the "aangirfan web sight is stating that the recent actions involving three people related to islam,have been"Framed by MI5/6,where undercover Officers had moved an Undetonated Bomb,prior to any inspections by a Bomb squad decisions?
It has been claimed by the"Defence Team"that the MI5/6 Officers knew it was safe to handle the device,as they had planted the device in the first place?
If people still think that MI5/6 act within the Law(Birmingham Six)with regard to evidence collated from the Scene and Re-written Police statements of collusion,that these things just Don't happen?
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Post by BlueBag on 04.08.17 6:47

I think there are many things going on.

There are Muslims genuinely radicalised and believe their jihad crap.
There are Muslims working for the intelligence services and being used and sometimes tricked by them.
The intelligence services are funding a lot of the terrorism via the back door (ISIS).
Islam is being used to bring down western culture and facilitate chaos from which a New World Order will emerge. Free-thinking people are not going to like it.

Most of the alt-right commentators are Zionists, they are focused on Islam and are not discussing the other problems caused by Zionists. Most of the worlds leaders are Zionists. Most of the media owners are Zionists. 

The main alternative news commentators never question the official 9/11 story now. According to them it WAS Muslims controlled by a man in a cave, no other questions asked.

Smug Zionists are doing rather well out of all this.
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Re;Major incident

Post by willowthewisp on 04.08.17 13:27

Hi Bluebag,thanks for your reply.
It is little wonder as to why people are struggling to disect"Fake News from Real News"especially as the CMMoM site has discovered in the case of Madeleine McCann,PR Bell Pottinger,sweet Clarence,fragrant Justine but to name a few pernicious elements to evade from Truth?
If as you state it is the Zionist influences and empires they have built in order to Control the masses,via a New World Order,then the"Zionist"must be involved in Politics,to gain control of that host Nation to back up fellow like minded personnel(Brother hood/Masons)?
Just this week there have been"Commemorative displays from the 1917 War"involving the future Royal Family leaders,yet if it is believed,that certain documents reviewed(TTS)clearly indicate one Winston Churchill had full knowledge of what was about to be beset the United Kingdom and Germany and other Nations of Europe,where it was orchestrated in the first place!?
It now seems as though enormous amounts of people have been highly influenced by either"Jihad,Psyop,Glaido style operations to coerce them to join these groups,Al Queda,ISIS,Daesh,which was dreamt up via the CIA,remember Afghanistan,America versus Russia to control the Middle East region?
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Re: 'Major Incident' as van hits mosque worshippers

Post by Doug D on 23.01.18 21:07

Couple of interesting videos within the BBC link which I can’t seem to pull over for some reason, one of which is CCTV just about showing the cul de sac with people standing in the road and the van turning left into them:
 
Finsbury Park: Jury sees CCTV of attack suspect 'hiring van'
 
·       1 hour ago
The jury in the trial of a man accused of driving a van into a crowd of people near a London mosque has been shown CCTV images of him hiring a vehicle.
Woolwich Crown Court was shown footage of Darren Osborne, 48, allegedly hiring the van in Cardiff and then writing a letter saying Muslims were "rapists".
Prosecutors say CCTV from a pub shows him writing the letter found in the van after the alleged attack, last June. 
Mr Osborne, from Cardiff, denies murder and attempted murder. 
He is accused of hitting worshippers in Finsbury Park at about 00:15 BST on 19 June 2017, killing 51-year-old Makram Ali and injuring nine others.

Pub footage

Jurors were played a series of CCTV videos, including one of Mr Ali collapsing moments before a van drove into a crowd people treating him.
They were also shown a video of Mr Osborne hiring a large Luton box van in Cardiff on 17 June, as well as around 10 minutes of footage from inside the Hollybush Pub in Pentwyn, near Cardiff.
 
Jurors were told the footage - from two days before the attack - showed a bartender at the pub hand Mr Osborne an object and his change as he purchased a drink.
He was then seen writing on paper at a table, the jury heard. 
Prosecutors say Mr Osborne was writing a note - complaining about terrorists on the streets and the Rotherham child exploitation scandal - found in the van used in the alleged attack.
The letter referred to Muslim people as "feral" and said Muslim men were "preying on our children", the jury was told.
 
Soldier Callum Spence, who had been in the pub in Pentwyn, said he heard Mr Osborne talking aggressively about Muslims. 
Mr Spence told the court: "He was pretty mumbling, but I heard him saying: 'All our families are going to be Muslim. They are all going to be terrorists.' Things like that."
He told the court: "He just wasn't really all there. He wasn't looking at me. I tried to make eye contact with him but that did not work."
He said he told Mr Osborne to leave and when he helped to escort him out of the premises, the defendant said: "I'm going to take it into my own hands".
In a statement read to the jury, the pub's assistant manager, Angelo Lamberti, said he had heard Mr Osborne "tell the soldier that he was also a soldier. 
"The soldier asked him what regiment he was in, to which he replied, 'you will find out tomorrow'."
He added: "When he said to the soldier you will find out tomorrow, I wish I had called the police."

Twitter message 

Earlier the jury heard Mr Osborne had contact with far-right groups before the alleged attack.
Prosecutors said Mr Osborne received a Twitter message from Britain First deputy leader Jayda Fransen.
They said he also had an email from an English Defence League-linked account. 
Prosecutor Jonathan Rees QC outlined Mr Osborne's activity on the internet before the alleged attack.
He said the defendant made several searches on the internet for Britain First leader Paul Golding, his deputy Ms Fransen, and Tommy Robinson, one of the EDL's founders, after the London Bridge attack on 3 June.
 
Mr Osborne later received an invitation to a demonstration from an account using the name Tommy Robinson calling for participants to "stand up and say no more" to extremism.
Mr Rees said: "No-one is suggesting it's him [Mr Robinson] in person but obviously people who follow Tommy Robinson."
The invitation referred to the bombing by Salman Abedi at the Manchester Arena in May, saying the incident was "not the beginning and it won't be the end", the court heard.

March 'target'

Opening the trial on Monday, Mr Rees said Mr Osborne had become "obsessed" with Muslims and the Rochdale grooming scandal after watching a BBC TV drama.
He said it was believed Mr Osborne had been planning to target a march in central London, organised by the Islamic Human Rights Commission, on 18 June but was prevented by road closures that were put in place.
The trial was adjourned until Wednesday.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42790610

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Post by BlueBag on 24.01.18 8:59

They found a note in the van explaining all his motives.

Amazing.

Just amazing.

That was nice of him.

I wonder what his current mental state is after all this time in custody... somewhere...
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Post by polyenne on 24.01.18 9:06

Its a shame he didn't take his passport with him........like the 9/11 hijacker's that fluttered down from the WTC or the Paris suicide bomber who's passport was amazingly unscathed.

Really ?

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